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Featured picture candidates/Khalsa Heritage Memorial Complex, India
Hello Mr. Jeevan Jose! I was impressed by your photograph of Papilio demoleus listed in Featured picture candidates. I've nominated one of my photographs File:Khalsa Heritage Memorial 176 Edit.jpg as a featured picture candidate whose voting period ends on 31 Mar 2012. I would request you to kindly review the image. Thank You! Sanyambahga (talk) 06:33, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore
Dear Mr. Jeevan, I have nominated one of my photographs File:IIM-B 016.jpg of IIM-Bangalore as an FPC. I would be glad if you could spare some time and review the image. I would like to thank for supporting my previous FPC of Khalsa Heritage Memorial Complex. Sanyambahga (talk) 14:50, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Acmella oleracea pic looks different
Hi, I saw your new photo of Spilanthes (sorry, still used to the old name!) on Acmella oleracea, but I'm a little puzzled: The inflorescence looks quite different from my old photo both in colors and in the presence or absence of the larger flowers down near the base. Do you know if this is simply a different variety, or does one of us have the wrong species? -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 03:07, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tim:

I went through a lot of web pages; and both type of pictures are listed under Acmella oleracea in most of them. But in http://www.flowersofindia.net/risearch/search.php?query=Acmella+&stpos=0&stype=AND I found Acmella ciliata which is more matching to my image. So I'm reverting to the old picture by you. Thanks for the information. Regards, Jee Jkadavoor (talk) 06:51, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Interesting! Sounds like it's time for a new article... but the Flowers of India site shows a few that look like your photo. I think an expert is called-for here for identification. I'm surely not qualified to make the call on this one. Do you have any photos of the plant's leaves? -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 14:06, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes; three of them look very similar to mine. This is the only other picture I have now. -- Jee Jkadavoor (talk) 06:30, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

RfC WP:FPC
Hello, some time earlier, you commented/voted on Featured picture candidates/Pythagoras similar triangles proof. The file is renominated at Featured picture candidates/Pythagoras similar triangles proof simplified with many issues addressed. Your comments about the new version would be appreciated.--Gauravjuvekar (talk) 15:46, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Dead man's fingers
I've provided some information which may make you change your mind. If not, or if you don't have time to look back, no worries. J Milburn (talk) 17:04, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the ID correction
Thank you for the ID correction about the Crimson Marsh Glider (Trithemis aurora). Much appreciated. talk

Replacement of existing photos
Wikipedia is not your private photo album. Where there is no photo, fine, add one if it is appropriate. But you seem to be embarking on a campaign to replace existing photos with inferior ones of your own. Please desist. --Chuunen Baka (talk  • contribs) 11:36, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Putting your name in the photo file name makes me immediately suspicious of your motives. How does the photographer's name contribute any information? species_sex_location.jpg would be more appropriate. --Chuunen Baka (talk  • contribs) 13:40, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It would help greatly if you added a comment when making changes. A meaningful comment can avoid a lot of misunderstanding. --Chuunen Baka (talk  • contribs) 13:55, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * And if Kadavoor is your location, why do all your photos say "by kadavoor"? --Chuunen Baka (talk  • contribs) 13:58, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Threat display merge to Deimatic behaviour
Hi Jkadavoor, I see you've added the same beautiful image to both articles, which at least shows you may think they're both on the same topic! Could you possibly add your opinion, whatever it is, to the discussion on the talk page, so we can move things along? That would be very helpful. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:18, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Camouflaged catterpillar
Think you could find a specimen of Euthalia aconthea? would be fun to feature, if we could get a decent sized image. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:16, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes; it looks wonderful! J Kadavoor J e e 15:19, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for nudibranch help!
Thanks so much for alerting us to the confusion about that nudibranch species; we appreciate your helpful messages.

Very best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 16:19, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks J Kadavoor J e e 16:37, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (May 2013)
 Membership report The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 363 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, Pleonic, MJWilliams1998, Iloilo Wanderer, Jkadavoor, Sir Ian and McBenjamin. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. We would be able to achieve nothing here without the input of all of you. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.

From the Editor This month we hear the news that the Bible is to be made into a film after outstanding success of a biblical miniseries on the History Channel, and we have seen the release of Iraqi Pastor Ali Hamzah from his confinement in Iraq.

After last month's spotlight on the Jesus work group, the flagship article, Jesus, was nominated for Good Article status after much work from FutureTrillionaire and History2007, and provisionally passed by the reviewer, although they have requested a second opinion. Our many thanks for the hard work that has gone into restoring this article to a quality piece of work.

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Church of the month Wells Cathedral was this month promoted to GA status. Rodw has appealed for any help project members can give to improve this article for a FA nomination.

Contest of the month No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content. By John Carter

Featured content and GA report Since the last report;

Featured report; Madonna in the Church, by Ceoil, Truthkeeper88, and Johnbod was promoted to Featured Article status. Crucifixion and Last Judgement was promoted to featured picture status, after nomination by Crisco 1492.

Wells Cathedral, by Rodw, Robert of Ghent, by User:Ealdgyth, Christianity in Medieval Scotland, by Sabrebd, and Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, also by Sabrebd were promoted to GA status.

Also these past months, the DYKs on the main page included Lectionary 311, by Leszek Jańczuk; Herr Christ, der einig Gotts Sohn, by Gerda Arendt; Whalsay Parish Church, by Ipigott, Rosiestep, Nvvchar, Dr. Blofeld; Interpretatio Christiana, by Altenmann; First Congregational Church, Salt Lake City, by Orlady; Church of King Charles the Martyr, Royal Tunbridge Wells, by The C of E; First Church in Albany (Reformed), by Daniel Case; Pope Anastasius II, by AbstractIllusions; Iglesia de Nuestra Señora de la Palma, by Dr. Blofeld, Ipigott, Rosiestep; Colan Church, by Rosiestep, Nvvchar, Ipigott; Notre Dame Cathedral, Papeete, Bloom6132, Church of St. Wenceslaus (New Prague, Minnesota), by Elkman; St. Joseph Catholic Church (San Antonio, Texas), by Gilliam; Doubting Thomas, by Johnbod; Robert of Ghent, by Ealdgyth; and Holy Trinity Church, Holdgate, by Peter I. Vardy. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

Christian art

This depiction of the Crucifixion and Last Judgement was painted by Dutch artist Jan van Eyck and promoted to Featured Picture this month.

Spotlight SPOTLIGHT

This month, we turn our attention to the Encyclopedic articles sub-group, which aims to provide "a collection point for lists of articles contained in other reference sources relating to Christianity, which could serve as a basis for developing our own content". Created by John Carter, it is primarily a list of links, red or otherwise, for subjects which have an article in the reference works listed therein. This serves as a very useful list if any project members are "stuck for what to do" and there remains lots of potential for articles developed from this list.

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Thanks so much for your note on my talk page about the image. It also was great because it reminded me to nominate a different image for delisting. Invertzoo (talk) 20:34, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

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From the Editor Since its formation in 2006, WikiProject Christianity has come a long way. A significant number of new articles have appeared on a wide range of topics, and the quality of some key articles has seen dramatic improvement. Yet, by the very nature of the open, crowd-sourced development environment in which we operate, as the number of pages in the project has increased at times our attention has been naturally diluted. We should of course strive for quality everywhere, but we should remember that this newsletter is called Ichthus.

Starting this month we will start a "Focus on" series, where we will try to "bring Jesus back" and focus on him. For five consecutive issues we will focus on one aspect of the study of Jesus. The goal of this series is to inform our members of what the project contains and highlight those articles which have reached quality and stability.

From this month until November we will focus on the historical Jesus, a topic which has been the subject of much discussion on article talk pages, as well as the general media. This is an important topic, and we have a good set of well referenced articles on that now. Then, starting in December we will focus on Christ, and the spiritual and theological elements that the title entails. Following that the review of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament, his miracles, and parables will take place. And each month the "Bookshelf" will mention a book that fits the theme of the month.

We hope you will enjoy this journey as we present a new aspect of Jesus each month. And given that as the number of project pages increases, the ratio of those watching the pages declines, we hope that more of you will watch some of these central pages that help define this project.

Church of the month The current building of All Saints' Church, Winthorpe in Nottinghamshire, England which was completed in 1888, is at least the third version of the church, which dates back to at least the early 13th century.

Good articles and DYKs The article Jesus received the good article mark last month, as did Cleeve Abbey. A number of churches were featured on the main page in the DYK section in May, namely St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St Patrick's Liverpool, Vlah Church, Freerslev Church, Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption, Mata-Utu, St. Michael's Cathedral (Sitka, Alaska), St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St. Pierre Cathedral, Saint-Pierre, Mont Saint Michel Abbey, St Patrick's Church, Liverpool, Vlah Church, St Catherine of Siena Church, Cocking, Catedral Nuestra Señora de La Asunción, Roholte Church, Notre Dame Cathedral, Taiohae, Leicester Abbey, Caracas Cathedral, Caldey Abbey, King's Mead Priory, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Hong Kong) andAll Saints' Church, Winthorpe, as well as the hymn What Wondrous Love Is This.

Focus on... THE HISTORICAL JESUS

Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The Historicity of Jesus article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.

In 2011 John Dickson tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived,he would eat a page of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe.

The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. Shlomo Pines' discovery of the Syriac Josephus) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity.

From the bookshelf Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence by Robert Van Voorst, 2000 ISBN 0-8028-4368-9

Just a few years after its publication, Van Voorst's book has become the standard comprehensive text for the discussion of ancient sources that relate to Jesus and his historicity. This detailed yet really readable book has received wide ranging endorsements - Blomberg and Harris separately referring to it as the most comprehensive treatment of the subject.

Did you know...
 * ... that Johann Sebastian Bach wrote the initials "S. D. G.", for Soli Deo Gloria, at the beginning and end of all his church compositions to give God credit for the work, and that Handel at times did the same?

Calendar The coming month includes days dedicated to the honor of Beheading of John the Baptist, Saints Peter and Paul, the Nativity of John the Baptist, and Saint Barnabas.

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From the Editor Welcome to the July 2013 issue of Ichthus. We focus on the chronology of Jesus, as well as looking back at the project content improved over the last month.

WP:X has gained another Featured Article, Gospel of the Ebionites, by Ignocrates. The Gospel of the Ebionites is the name scholars give to an apocryphal gospel that supposedly belonged to a sect known as the Ebionites. It consists of seven short quotations discovered in a heresiology known as the Panarion, written by Epiphanius of Salamis, and its original title remains unknown. The text is a gospel harmony composed in Greek, and is believed to have been written during the middle of the 2nd century.

St Mihangel's Church, Llanfihangel yn Nhowyn was promoted to Good Article status, as was two other welsh churches, St Enghenedl's Church, Llanynghenedl, and St Peter's Church, Llanbedrgoch.

The main page also featured several DYK hooks for articles in our project, namely Bob Fu, List of places of worship in Tandridge (district), Catholic Press, Garendon Abbey, St. John's Episcopal Church (Jersey City, New Jersey), Pargev Martirosyan, Praskvica Monastery, Heather Preceptory, St. Augustin, Coburg, Longleat Priory, St Mihangel's Church, Llanfihangel yn Nhowyn, St Enghenedl's Church, Llanynghenedl, Christianization of Moravia, Christianization of Bohemia, Repton Abbey, St Peter's Church, Llanbedrgoch, Medingen Abbey, Elmhurst Christian Reformed Church, St. James on-the-Lines, and Leopold Karl von Kollonitsch.

Church of the month St. Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery is part of Saint Sophia's Cathedral, Kiev in Ukraine. It is a functioning monastery that dates back to the Middle Ages.

Membership report The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 367 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, Newchildrenofthealmighty, Evenssteven, Kerna96, and FutureTrillionaire. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.

Focus on... <BIG>T</BIG>HE <BIG>H</BIG>ISTORICAL <BIG>J</BIG>ESUS

When did Jesus live? When did he die? How do we know? We do, in fact, have excellent information about the time intervals for the life and death of Jesus. As in other people who lived and died in the first century, this gives an approximate date range, but still, give or take 3-4 years and we have pretty good estimates confirmed by a number of really diverse sources, ranging from inscriptions in Delphi to Roman and Jewish sources. The Chronology of Jesus article discusses how a wide variety of Christian, Jewish and Roman sources are used to establish the time-frame for the life and death of Jesus.

And all of his data fits together. For instance, the chronology of Paul had been discussed based on the Book of Acts long ago, then the Delphi Inscription is found in the 20th century in the Temple of Apollo. And guess what.. it confirms it and totally dates his trial in Corinth, which helps reaffirm the date of the crucifixion of Jesus. The same date range is independently estimated from the writings of Josephus on the Baptist's death. And it fits Isaac Newton's astronomical models for the crucifixion date as well as the independent lunar calculations of Humphreys. As that article shows, all these dates just fit together.

From the bookshelf Chronos, kairos, Christos: nativity and chronological studies edited by J. Vardaman, E. M. Yamauchi 1989 ISBN 0-931464-50-1

This two volume book (with a very apt title) is gem-filled with scholarly research. Paul Maier's article in the first volume is a classic study on the chronology of Jesus and provides a useful summary of a number of issues.

Did you know...
 * ... that the Russian journalist Nicolas Notovitch who in 1894 originated the story that there was evidence at the Hemis monastery that an adult Jesus had traveled to India, later confessed to fabricating his evidence?

Calendar This month (July) contains the feast days of Mary Magdalene, and James, son of Zebedee.

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Hi Jkadavoor,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Papilio demoleus ALT by kadavoor.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on July 21, 2013. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2013-07-21. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:44, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
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 * Just a heads up, I moved it to 29 July, as I realised something else fit very nicely for the 21st. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:53, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Its OK; I like such historically important topics too. :) J Kadavoor J e e 04:17, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
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Two comments - one is that once a photo has been released under an appropriate free licence, anybody is free to move the photo to commons or anywhere else. "The person who associated a work with this deed has dedicated the work to the public domain by waiving all of his or her rights to the work worldwide under copyright law, including all related and neighboring rights, to the extent allowed by law. You can copy, modify, distribute and perform the work, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission." If you don't want photos to be copied to commons, then do not upload them on the internet under a licence that allows it (which in this case would mean don't upload it to en:wiki either. The second point is that the photo is licenced on Flickr under a non-commercial licence - such licences are not sufficienntly free for use on wikipedia and would require a non-free justification for uploading here.Nigel Ish (talk) 08:21, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

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Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point
Hi Jkadavoor, your crusade against Commons has now come to a point where your recent behaviour is considered disruptive. So please stop. Also: Did you intentionally violate the Foundation's Licensing policy? --Isderion (talk) 22:45, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I've no plan to disturb the Definition of Free Cultural Works. In fact, I was disturbed at Commons in the midst (by the other reasons specified there) while I was trying to re-license all of my existing works to CC0 from CC-BY-SA. J Kadavoor J e e 01:02, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Have you read the licencing policy? Do you understand that if you say as part of the licence agreement that the image should not be copied to Commons it does not meet the terms of the Definition of Free Cultural Works any longer. ("The freedom to redistribute copies: Copies may be sold, swapped or given away for free, as part of a larger work, a collection, or independently. There must be no limit on the amount of information that can be copied. There must also not be any limit on who can copy the information or on where the information can be copied").
 * If you are aware of that, why did you upload that file? --Isderion (talk) 19:56, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * But it doesn't says other people have any rights to edit my copyright information like attribution. I have full freedom to use my real name or a pseudonym decided by me; not by a third party (You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor). I've no problem if Commons showcase my work with the disclaimer as mentioned; "Commons seems ethically broken to me" with links to my original source in En:WIKI and in Flickr. I've no plans to upload directly to Commons (an ethically broken wiki) any further.  J Kadavoor J e e 02:25, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#How_do_Creative_Commons_licenses_affect_my_moral_rights.2C_if_at_all.3F: "The international licenses provide that licensees must not distort, mutilate, modify or take other derogatory action in relation to the Work which would be prejudicial to the Original Author's honor or reputation. This prohibits licensees from making uses that would otherwise violate authors’ moral rights of integrity where that right exists." I afraid how a morally deteriorating community can protect my moral rights? J Kadavoor J e e 12:43, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You are changing your mind quite often. First you say your comment about Commons is part of the licence agreement (like "you are not allowed to move the file to commons"). Now you say Commons is allowed to host the file, but should mention that "Commons seems ethically broken to you" because you think this is what attribution is about? Is this summary correct and final. I don't want to spent my time arguing against something while you are chaning you mind again and might present a new situation. --Isderion (talk) 23:32, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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I regard your comments about me as misleading
In these comments you made a number of assertions I regard as misleading. Those assertions included:
 * 1) That I attacked Arctic Kangaroo, and those who supported him, during the deletion discussion.  If you believe this, then providing a diff, briefly quoting the passage you find questionable -- why that should be no problem?
 * 2) You asserted I "triggered" the WP:ANI thread.  User:Ritchie333 initiated the thread, and is wholely responsible for doing so.  The thread took me by surprise -- hardly what one would find if I "triggered" it.  Having said that I don't think there is anything wrong with Ritchie333 initiating the thread.
 * 3) I did upload the images elsewhere, which I am entirely authorized to have done, since Arctic Kangaroo released rights to the image under a CC-by-SA license.  Re-use is allowed, encouraged, provided re-users, properly attribute the image, and repeat the original license, where it is re-used.  I dispute uploading the properly licensed image was an attack, or that I phrased anything I wrote there as an attack.  If you think I attacked AK there it should be an easy matter for you to quote the offending passage, correct?
 * 4) DId you mean to suggest MichaelMaggs comment had anything to do with me?  If so, what?  If not, why mention him?

As to whether I violated the flickr community guidelines, which bar uploading images not created personally -- I think common sense is in order here, and those guidelines are not meant to bar the properly licensed re-use of properly licensed images. I think you will find that flickr's agents aren't authorized to tell you the result of an investigation, if a formal investigation is initiated -- because they have an obligation to protect my privacy.

Flickr has a page they display, for former contributors. They won't tell you whether that ID was terminated via their equivalent of an "office action", or whether the person chose to resign.

Did you want me to keep you informed if I hear from flickr in response to your complaint? Geo Swan (talk) 06:49, 24 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah, why should it matter if I entered that commons deletion discussion early, or late? Geo Swan (talk) 12:47, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * In this comment you wrote: "But unfortunately many participants including GS behaved very poorly to him." I have asked you above to be specific as to where you think I attacked you or Arctic Kangaroo.  You haven't done so.  I am going to ask you to quote the passages where you think I "behaved very poorly" to AK.  I request you stop making these claims if your can't substantiate them.  Geo Swan (talk) 21:32, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

You asserted I "neglected" Arctic Kangaroo's requests
You asserted I "neglected" Arctic Kangaroo's requests to remove his fine images from flickr. Since I responded, at length, to his requests, on my talk page, and elsewhere, I believe this comment on WP:ANI is also misleading.

Your comment was, FWIW, off-topic. If you think I have an ethical obligation to remove those images, is there a reason you didn't express that concern directly to me, before raising it at WP:ANI? The advice for how to use WP:ANI certainly recommends doing so. Will you explain your reasoning here, now?

As to whether AK is entitled to request to have attribution of the images to him removed -- do you think he has requested attribution to be removed? I don't think he has. If you think he has could you please supply me with a diff?

If AK were to request I remove attribution from the images, but he didn't request the commons remove attribution, can you think of a reason why I shouldn't merely remove his name, but continue to have the description pages point to the commons description pages as the source? Geo Swan (talk) 14:29, 25 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I already gave the diff there; which was a reply to your comment. But it is up to AK whether he still thinks so, and wants to make a formal notice.


 * The CC "No Endorsement" provision; only demands “the person modifying the work or incorporating the work into a collection remove reference to the original author or licensor upon notice”. The original author still can keep his attribution in other instances. If he asked so, you can’t “continue to have the description pages point to the commons description pages as the source.” ; which makes your Flickr page float. But I don’t know whether AK knows such things. J Kadavoor J e e 10:35, 26 July 2013 (UTC)


 * First, your pair of diffs, -- how were they intended to show I was "neglecting" AK's request?  Explaining why I didn't agree to comply with his request is very different from "neglecting" him.


 * I asked you to "can you think of a reason why I shouldn't merely remove his name, but continue to have the description pages point to the commons description pages as the source?" No offense, but you haven't actually offered a reason -- merely repeated yourself.


 * If AK requests attribution to be removed from the commons copies the attribution would probably be recorded in an OTRS ticket. This would be necessary in case someone was concerned over a copyvio claim.  If he only requested I remove attribution I continue to think I am only obliged to remove his name, not a link to the commons page.  Geo Swan (talk) 20:21, 26 July 2013 (UTC)


 * You claimed I attacked AK, and those who supported him. I don't believe I did.  I requested diffs.  You haven't provided them.  I am going to interpret this is a tacit acknowledgment that you realized you cannot substantiate this claim.  If you can't substantiate the claim can I ask whether you considered striking or withdrawing the claim?  Geo Swan (talk) 20:32, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

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Welcome to the August 2013 issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter. We focus on the historical Jesus and reflect on the last month.

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From the bookshelf Jesus of Nazareth: An Independent Historian's Account of His Life and Teaching by Maurice Casey 2010 ISBN 0-567-64517-7

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Hi there, I didn't understand what this comment meant or why you placed it where you did. Could you check it out and see if you can get it to make more sense? Please feel free to ignore this request if you think what you wrote made sense - it may just be me not understanding properly! Kim Dent-Brown  (Talk)  20:36, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Jkadavoor,

Hope this finds you well. Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Common Jezebel Delias eucharis edit by kadavoor.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 10, 2013. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2013-09-10. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:33, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
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You might find WP:WMF a useful resource, as I have seen your name in places where I just told people about it. Perhaps you could edit some at Wikimedia Commons to describe the view expressed by Jimbo? You could quote and reference him there, if you'd like. That might be appreciated by the community. Biosthmors (talk) 19:57, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Jkadavoor, Thanks for adding my photo to articles but Keitakuen is not Kairaku-en. That's different garden. Keitakuen is in Osaka and currently there is no Keitakuen's article in en.wikipedia. Regards. --Laitche (talk) 15:03, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow! Interesting. almost same spelling. Thanks for correcting me. J Kadavoor J e e 15:40, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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Mirror image frog
I know that, having read the delist discussion, but why do you find it relevant? At a thumbnail resolution, none of those issues matter (you can't possibly see the problems that led to the delist), and the presence of the frog at the waterline makes the reflection stand out better. Meanwhile, the reflection of the cyclist in the other image is interrupted by the bits of pavement between him and the main part of the puddle: it's a Commons FP, but that doesn't mean that its educational value for this specific article is higher. Remember the different standards between Commons FPs and en:wp FPs — Commons looks for visually appealing pictures, while en:wp looks for educational value. You can see the result of these differing standards at Featured picture candidates/Olive ridley turtles: I nominated a Commons FP for FP here, but it was opposed in large part because it doesn't do a good job of helping viewers understand the turtles. Nyttend (talk) 13:30, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry for telling you what you already knew; I've never met you before and didn't realise that you knew the procedures. As I see it, someone looking for reuse images can go to Commons (after all, we have the link at the end of the page), while the primary purpose for putting images in articles is to increase readers' understanding of the article's topic, so we should put EV over reuse when the two conflict.  Of course, if someone could find something that's better quality than the frog and better EV than the cyclist, I would agree that it's time to get rid of the frog.  Nyttend (talk) 13:54, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

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