User talk:Jmabel/Archive 7

Re:notenglish
Thanks for the reminder, sorry for the inconvenience. I assume I forgot to add the page to PNTIE. Best regards, Sietse 13:51, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Yeah, thanks from me also -- I kinda assumed (obviously for no good reason) that there was an automatically created list, like creates. -jpgordon {gab} 16:21, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

New list of articles with no interwikis
Hello. Thanks for your help on es:. I have asked Med to make a new list of articles with no interwikis. See http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Youssefsan/zona_de_trabajo_2 (But I have not already wikified the list). See you --Youssef 18:24, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * PS: I have also a list for fr: if you are interrested. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Youssefsan/Liste_de_suivi --Youssef 19:00, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

linking to an image
thanks for the pointer on linking to an image. I realized as I was attempting it that it seemed non-standard, but also seems to be a reasonable feature to me--access to images relevant but secondary to the subject.

Update of the Angiosperm Phylogeny Group
The original article at the Blackwell Group stated that it was free content, as long as the origin was mentioned. This means the copyright tag is, which is within the Wikipedia copyright restraints. This page is of great importance to all contributors working on botanical articles. Therefore the name is linked to the "Tree of Life". It may be a somewhat strange name, but every botanist knows what it is all about. JoJan 09:23, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * OK. What about moving to : Update of the Angiosperm Phylogeny Group ? JoJan 09:33, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Francisco Hernández de Córdoba
Hi, Jmabel, I've seen your contribution linking the spanish article on Francisco Hernández de Córdoba [which I will finish some of this weeks :( ] to the english and french wikis and viceversa. Provided that there were two homonymous conquistadors, and in the English version they were treated as the same person (setting a strange biography of a conquistador that founded Nicaragua several years after being injured to death while discovering Yucatan), and in the french version the same article is used for both, without a disambiguation format, I have changed both the english article (transforming it into a disambiguation page, as it is in es: ) and the links, linking disambiguation-to-disambiguation articles, at least for the moment. If somebody with better english than mine helps me, I can try to translate to english the articles that I`m writing in es: about Hernández & Hernández, and then the links will be more accurate.

It's a pity having known about you just today, because last week (until Friday) I was living... in Seattle! (due to the Teradata Partners Conference, at the Convention Center)... I've lost the opportunity of an international wikimeeting, to speak, maybe, about spanish conquistadores. Vivero 23:00, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have said where I live: In Spain. I'm also Vivero in the es:wikipedia. Have you visited this map in the es:, showing the location of the wikipedians? I think it´s a good idea for other wikis, and for recalling the utopia of a frointerless world.

Concerning the translation, I prefer to finish the article before, and to try the translation myself, kindly asking for your corrections. You´re absolutely right when you say that translations must be done from the foreing language to the mother tongue. Even more: the main requisite of a good translator is to be a good writer in his own language, no matter if is not very fluent in the translated tongue. But... I want to improve my English, making mistakes! Vivero 22:13, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Category links
Oh, so that's how you do them. Didn't see my mistake until I saw your edit. Thanks for fixing them for me! Alarm 07:43, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

User:Style has deliberately broken the 3 revert rule
On the 1982 Lebanon War page; could you possibly assist? Jayjg 20:42, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Please do whatever you think is reasonable and appropriate. Jayjg 20:51, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * I think someone who makes wholesale edits on a page, and then says there is no point in discussing them because they are facts, and finally deliberately reverts 4 times, should probably be dealt with a little more severealy than "let's discuss this on the Talk: page". Jayjg 21:04, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * You're right. His history of doing this before made me un-optimistic.  Oh well, thanks for providing the voice of reason, that's what I was looking for anyway, so I'm glad I dropped by. Jayjg 21:20, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

translation backlog from fr: to en:
I could probably work on the Arabic alphabet page. Maybe as soon as next week.

@alex

The Joan Jett mystery
User:Everyking is puzzled by the inclusion of Joan Jett on CSB. See the bottom of my talk page - Xed 14:46, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

ILO
I saw your comments on the ILO article. Since I have some knowledge of the subject and listed it on WP:Bias with the intention to expand the article, I decided to fix the ambiguity myself, adding some of the things I wanted to add at the same time. But I'd appreciate if you take a look and check if it works as it now stands. I think some sentences could be a bit smoother, but I couldn't really find better solutions. I'd be grateful for any help. Alarm 20:07, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The Dancing Wu Li Masters
So I'm not the only one who remembers The Dancing Wu Li Masters. LOL! Thanks for the trip down memory lane. SWAdair | Talk 09:01, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

re: SEO
I keep an eye on SEO, because many people try to add suspicious or blatantly commercial links. The link I reverted was fairly suspicious.

Wikipedia rules applied :


 * Wikipedia is not a web directory.
 * No advertising.

Kim Bruning 00:32, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Lots of google adsense on that page, don't you think? Kim Bruning 01:13, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Yeah, hmm, well, good point with IMDB, but like, they're well entrenched and all. Do we really want to encourage linking to sites like that, unless they're a unique resource? Kim Bruning 09:17, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

If only...
When he makes good edits, they are indeed good. That's why I've really tried to work with him, as opposed to the various other anti-Israel editors on these articles, who have nothing of value to add (or in one case are simply there to troll). I really wish we had Zero0000 back; even though he and I often disagreed, at least he actually knew something about the history of the region and conflict (as opposed to those who just read some anti-Israel website polemics, or an anti-Israel polemical book by Fisk, and imagine that they now know "THE TRUTH" (tm)), and he also knew what NPOV was. Jayjg 02:12, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

editing Dacia, Romania, Transylvania articles
hi Jmabel, about your request that I should make clear comments on my edits and disscussing them first: The information I added is not controversial, on the contrary, i indicated historical documents in wich terms like Getae, Dacorum Getarum and Dagae appear: Herodotus, Strabo, Plutarh, Jordanes, De Bello Gallico, Roman Notitia Dignitatum, Tabula Peutingeriana, external links, etc.

i will sustain my NPOV to anybody that would open a discussion thread on my edits. criztu

Chilean coup of 1973
I noticed your edit summary comment of how "weird" the anon IP is acting. I think I can explain. He simply reverts articles I edit, often regardless of the nature of the edit (sometimes a mere spelling correction or capitalization change). He vandalized my user page a few times too (see its page history if you're interested) and I requested arbitration for an injunction, a request which has sat around for some time. Very Verily 23:10, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

esTotW
Since you put your name down as a spanish to english traslator, i thought you might be interested in the new Spanish translation of the week collaboration project. This weeks collaboration is Género chico.

paz y amor, The bellman 05:12, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Holocaust Denial
In addition to the Jew article, please note that Alberuni is inserting the identical Holocaust Denial material into Nazi concentration camps and Extermination camp. Jayjg 06:24, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

You really dropped the ball on with your comments about Aberuni. Writing about Holocaust deniers isn't Holocaust denial.- Xed 07:41, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

What is it with everybody today?
Jmabel, I had absolutely no intention to imply that your actions resemble in any way HistoryBuffEr's. I don't even know what actions you took or did not take. If I somehow managed to unwittingly hint so, I'm sorry. Gadykozma 19:54, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * You might be interested in voting on this suggested policy. Gadykozma 20:50, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hi, jmabel
I'm the one interested in the Basque issue as I'm Basque myself. As I've seen you direct, de facto at least, the Ethnic Groups Wikiproject, I would like to contribute in what I can. Feel free to visit my talk page with any comments. (By the way, you have even a Basque Club in Seattle to contrast.) Idiazabal 11:37, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks
I appreciate your efforts in trying to remain neutral and bring some calm and sanity to the current wars over the Israeli-Palestinian articles. Jayjg 20:56, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

B. Goldwater Redirect
Yeah, my mistake. Was the redirect process simplified lately? I seem to remember that one had to put a redirect on one page, and then go put it on the page to be redirected to, and then revert, and then the redirect holds. Now all we have to do is one redirect? Makes things simpler, boy howdy. Sorry if I messed up any flow. --Neschek 03:05, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Yup, I know about the supergroovy single-step redirect now. Thanks much for putting me straight. --Neschek 15:37, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Chile coup
Very impressive work digesting that slew of new content. I found the prospect quite daunting when considering it myself. Very Verily 08:38, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

List formatting
Your efforts on the List of heteronyms formatting was appreciated, but unless you have compelling reasons for adding that formatting I think it would be better if you reverted it. Here's why:

I considered bolding the first word, as it would indeed look better. But the table formatting is onerous enough for contributors to deal with, and doing the &amp;ndash; bit clearly pushes it over the top, in my view. Remember, we're trying to encourage successful contributions that I (or others) don't have to clean up later. My experience with my redundancy list suggests that something complicated will simply not be done uniformly--doing the table bit is risky enough, but impossibly messy without it. Thanks --NathanHawking 01:09, 2004 Oct 30 (UTC)


 * I agree that bolding looks better. Perhaps having the bold around the subject is not overly onerous. However, I'm going to put a brief InUse on the page and see if table lines solve that problem without requiring users to mess with bolding. It may just make it more ugly. Check in later and see what you think.


 * Too, an en dash correctly does not have spaces around it. It's optional for an mdash. You can leave such things the way the original writer preferred. In this case, it saves a bit of space and looks cleaner, in my view, to set off the pronunciation with a single DASH- like that, followed by a space. Not that contributors would notice that subtlety, but it was deliberate and I'd like to restore it.
 * --NathanHawking 01:44, 2004 Oct 30 (UTC)


 * The dash is a small issue, probably too small to be "correct" or "incorrect" in any significant sense. Half the contributors will probaly do that differently whichever way it is.


 * More important is the bolding and italicizing and ndash specifying. That truly clutters the picture--I agree that it looks immensely better, and knew that when I posted the list. But the trade-off was some reduced readability for much simpler entry. The table lines solve that, I think, allowing simplest possible entries and enhanced readability. Have a look. --NathanHawking 02:13, 2004 Oct 30 (UTC)

I may have overwritten your last contribution
Joe, I may have overwritten your last contribution on List of heteronyms by reverting to the one of yours just before it. Poccil took it upon himself to change our tentative pronunciation stuff to the very difficult X-SAMPA, almost unusable for an easy-to-make and easy-to-read list. Jeeze, Louise. No way. I am nearly finished with a simple guide to pronunciation. Should be done by morning.

Anyhow, sorry for the overwrite--don't revert, please--just copy your addition and paste in a new edit. Thanks. --NathanHawking 07:24, 2004 Oct 30 (UTC)


 * Followup. Hang onto your new contributions to the list for a day, please. I put a 24 hour InUse flag on the page. I should have a simple pronunciation guide essentially completed by then, which should encourage some uniformity, even if only by those of us dedicated to cleaning up casual entries. Please have a look at the guide when I post it, check for idiosyncrasies, etc. --NathanHawking 07:55, 2004 Oct 30 (UTC)


 * Oops... yeh, yer *talk* page. Sorry. --NathanHawking 07:57, 2004 Oct 30 (UTC)

Good link
Good link to the heteronyms, Joe. I'll check out his approach to pronunciation--mine is pretty simple as well. --NathanHawking 10:19, 2004 Oct 30 (UTC) (I see this signed me as an anonymous use--logged me off for the third time in 30 minutes. So I'm back to actually sign this.)

Thanks on New Skin
Thanks for making New Skin for the Old Ceremony a worthwhile article. Thankyou again. Tolo 10:50, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)

Collaboration of the week
Could you consider voting for Partisans (Yugoslvia) as a collaboration project? AndyL 17:20, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)