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Christian Alignment
Removed the connexion between Barnabas and Thomas, which is necessary to purport. Has gone with Christian antipathies towards this gospel of Thomas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yanclae (talk • contribs) 20:37, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

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Sandbox draft of the exodus
I created a sandbox version of the exodus page at User:Quarkgluonsoup/The Exodus/Draft. Please come over and make what edits you think would improve the page.Quarkgluonsoup (talk) 19:28, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I will indeed take a look at it. I didn't notice it until now, because of the prior message with the redlink. St John Chrysostom ΔόξατωΘεώ 00:05, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The sandbox version of the exodus article has been moved to Talk:The_Exodus/Draft.Quarkgluonsoup (talk) 16:03, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've still not got around to it yet, because I'm in a few current Wikipedebates, and just got out of that massive, acrimonious one at GCN (and, from reading the noticeboards, it seems like this is one that could [or already has] go[ne] there. Still, I'll brace myself and jump in in a day or two, so I get some more first-hand experience for a piece I'm writing on it. St John Chrysostom ΔόξατωΘεώ 16:06, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Ichthus
Hi John, I was wondering if you would like to write an op-ed for Ichthus about the rash of problems with anti-religious POV in articles. I'm asking Dougweller to write a counterpoint. Thanks, – Lionel (talk) 22:59, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure. How many words? I actually have some little experience with this, having worked as an editor on a college newspaper :-) Do I get to see Doug's contribution first, or does he get to see mine? (You know, to determine which of the counterpoints is more powerful ;-) St John Chrysostom ΔόξατωΘεώ 23:56, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * When do you need it done by, and what should I focus on? Any specific articles, or a general editorial? And, what's the length-limit? If you haven't noticed, I can be rather verbose. St John Chrysostom ΔόξατωΘεώ 10:28, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm going to get the specifics from the chief editor. We have 1 or 2 weeks yet. – Lionel (talk) 10:29, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You mean User:Anupam, right? :-) St John Chrysostom ΔόξατωΘεώ 10:38, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

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Non-trinitarian talk page deletion
Hi John,

I have been following, at a distance, the discussion on the nontrinitarian talk page and have noted your deletion of 24.176.58.127's post. I think I understand why you deleted it, but may I suggest that even such "rants" have their place in the talk page's record. If we remove these kind of extreme comments, we lose part of the record, in my opinion. It would be different, of course, if such material were placed in the article. I agree that your deletion can be defended. My concern is for the broad record of free speech encouraged by Wikipedia. The "attack" is not personalized and it does serve as a reminder that people feel deeply on this topic. Best regards, drs (talk) 09:57, 22 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Feel free to restore it; I deleted it as I believed it would make emotions run even more deeply in the debate, that is, inflame emotion, by having it remain. (I was in the Talk:Genesis creation narrative debate with 30 other people, and I thought it was bad - it was heated and spread over 50 [yes, over five-zero] pages of text - but still, it was civil. I'm new to the whole dispute/talk process on Wiki, as I've edited for years but generally never used Talk until a few months ago, editing where I saw fit, and refactoring my edits if they were reverted, etc.) I have little feeling about the comment itself other than, "that's absurd!" St John Chrysostom ΔόξατωΘεώ 10:01, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your ambivalence about the deletion and your concern for reducing the heat of discussion. I am not inclined to revert what you have done; just testing out the concept of free speech. drs (talk) 10:16, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * And I've read more books on Christian history from all points of view&mdash;from Pelikan to Carroll to Schaff to Harnack to Eusebius to twenty-four thousand pages of primary sources in the form of the Early Christian Fathers 38 volumes, and probably an additional ten thousand in Migne&mdash;than the law permits. And the collected New Testament Apocrypha of Schneemelcher and the Old Testament Pseudepigrapha of Charlesworth. And the Nag Hammadi library. And, for secular history, every single record of the Greco-Roman world widely available, from Thucydides and Herodotus to Plurtarch and Polybius to Livy and Tacitus to Ammianus Marcellinus and the Augustan History. And the works of Josephus and Philo. And the modern (Gibbon and later) analyses of those accounts. And limiting myself to those only of relevance to early Christianity and the Greco-Roman Empire: no Toynbee or Runciman or Dawson. I scare even professors of the seminary at times: that comment elicited a sort of insanity-tinged repressed nervous chuckle that grew to be tinged by (un)righteous anger at the last sentence, which reminded me nothing so much of Carolingians calling for the Jews to repent for some supposed racial guilt. St John Chrysostom ΔόξατωΘεώ 10:31, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The more I reflect on it, the more I realize the strength of Poe's Law of Internet Parody, and have to ask: "Was that real?" St John Chrysostom ΔόξατωΘεώ 10:37, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

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 * removed a new source.
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 * I apologize. I was power-reverting and saw massive additions, one after the other, of unsourced and poorly-written (the part that I scanned was incomprehensible to me; I'm not sure whether this is due to poor English or an overabundance of very technical jargon, and I also saw a lot of redlinks) content. As you have mentioned, I am incompetent in linguistics, but competent to edit English. When your project is done writing, please tell me, and I will tag the article up (because per WP:COMMONSENSE I think, even something that is common knowledge within a certain specialization needs to be sourced - note that I don't ask for dense sources that controversial articles get, with [1][2][4][6][5][3][9] after every sentence) and thoroughly (copy-)edit it. My reversions should be easy to deal with, as I rolled the entire set of reversions in to two: all you must do is revert my two edits and it is where it was before. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, although I expect I'll improperly revert again in the future when patrolling recent changes - it comes with the territory, as one develops a "mental heuristic" (which tagged your edits as good-faith: some are unknown, some are obvious vandalism, but yours, undoubtedly, were good-faith). St John Chrysostom ΔόξατωΘεώ 12:52, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

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