User talk:Jonathan Harold Koszeghi/Archive 15

Wishin' and Hopin'
Hey, Jonathan. I've been really busy offline today, and haven't had time to do any real editing. That being said, I'm exhausted and cannot stay up for another half-hour to write the plot summary. I plan on getting to it first thing tomorrow, but if you don't want to wait for me—I understand. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 02:55, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem! I certainly understand. I wanted to tell you that I myself have not been able to do any real edting, for I have been out of town for three days and I couldn't find any wireless conection. I had to do the changes for Wishin' and Hopin' (Grey's Anatomy) from my phone, and that wasn't exactly helpful. I'm going home tonight, so by tomorrow I can restart mu regular editing. My plan is to develop an episode article per day. This way, I can get all season 3 episodes achieve GAQ by the end of July. Is there too much trouble to ask you to provide the plot summaries for the season 3 episodes? Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 08:16, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It seems we're both in the same holdup! I too have been editing from my phone; and I agree that it is a hassle. I also plan on trying to do one episode a day; I have two done so far. Also, is it season three that you want me to write the plot summaries for or season 2, because I thought you had originally said season two?  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 14:36, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see how you got that: I asked you to write the plot summaries for the table in Grey's Anatomy (season 2). Earlier today, I asked you to write the plot summaries for the season 3 episodes, but not for the table in Grey's Anatomy (season 3), but for each episode's page (just like the one I asked you to do for Wishin' and Hopin'). I would be extremely grateful! Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 14:45, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh I understand. I'll try to do as many as I can, but I'm not exactly too fresh on season three; I haven't watched all of it in about 6 months. That being said, I'm currently watching Wishin' and Hopin' on Netflix, and should be able to write the plot summary in 40 minutes or so.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 14:53, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, I just remembered that I have the Season 3 DVD. I'll watch some episodes when I find the time. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 15:11, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I just finished the plot summary for Wishin and Hopin. Also, yes it is a good idea to watch the episode; that is what I plan on doing. I'll watch an episode each day, then write the article right after.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 16:02, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Great! I understand you are going to develop the ones for the first and sixth season. I am going to get the ones in the third season to GAQ in July, and then the ones in the second season in August. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 16:05, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think I'll do 6 and 7, or 6 and 5, because the Grey Matter Writers' blog was not existent in season one, so I wouldn't know what to do for production.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 16:13, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Favor
Hi, is there any way you can search for critical reception on "Good Mourning"? I have found reviews for the two part premiere in whole, but not for just the first part. Hope you can,  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 17:46, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Desperate Housewives (season 2)/GA1
You seem to have lost momentum at Talk:Desperate Housewives (season 2)/GA1. Please try to continue soon.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:20, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I am very close to failing this nomination.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:34, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * See comments below.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:08, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

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Wishin' and Hopin' (Grey's Anatomy)
Hello! First, I would like to thank you for reviewing this article, that I have put my back into. However, there seems to be a misunderstanding. Please, see the article's talk page to see what this is about. Thanks again, Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 08:55, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have given a link for the misunderstanding, :) — M.Mario  (T/C) 15:55, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

The Other Side of This Life
Hey, Jonathan! The Other Side of this Life should be broken down into two different articles, because they're two different episodes. For a good example, see Good Mourning and Goodbye. Thanks! TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 16:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I see your point. That was my initial plan. But I can't find any review or production notes about each individual episode. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 16:31, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Try looking at Good Mourning/Goodbye. You have to read through the Grey Matter blog/reviews- and look for discussion about the first part of the episode or second, recognizing the scene.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 18:01, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I obviously respect your opinion, but I believe these episodes were more one two-part episode than two distinct ones, as seen in the writers' blog and in the critics' reviews, unlike "Good Mourning" and "Goodbye", who were two different episodes that just happened to air in the same night. I'm not saying that your point is not correct, but I think that the article should stay as it is. It is just my opinion! But until other users express theirs, the article should stay as it is. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 19:07, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I get what you're saying, but actually the writers' blog for Good Mourning and Goodbye was listed as one blog, so it's the same. Respectfully, Good Mourning and Goodbye being two different articles, in addition to several other articles (such as Flight), established a consensus, already. So, you are the one who needs to get consensus to list the article as one. They were listed as two different episodes when originally aired.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 19:13, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I was eventually going to develop the article to FA, like Over There (Fringe). There would have been more info. But I see what you mean, and I agree. Could you deal with the deletion process etc.? Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 19:17, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm glad we could come to an agreement; I do not want to start an argument. I have renamed the page to The Other Side of This Life (Part 1), and you should create the second part when ready.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 19:18, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I will get to work. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 19:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

On Hold
Hi, Wishin' and Hopin' (Grey's Anatomy) is on hold, as untill a) you agree that the image is a copyright violation (you can do that at that page for files for deletion) or b) expand on the rationale. — M.Mario  (T/C) 18:57, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * In response to your comment at the GA review page, you just have to wait. Other users will comment if they can see a disagrement, and when a user is deleting images, if an argument is unresolved, they will keep it. — M.Mario  (T/C) 18:59, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Besides the image, are there any other issues I have to address? Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 19:01, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, there will be much more; however I cannot restart until image is removed from article. — M.Mario  (T/C) 19:03, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

GAs
Hi, Jonathan. When you nominate an episode for GA, the correct subtopic is 'Episodes' not 'Theatre, film and drama'. Please utilize that the next time you nominate one. Thanks,  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 03:53, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure! Thanks, Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 06:19, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

GA reviews
Hi again, Jonathan. It is rather rude to GA reviewers to nominate an article, have the reviewer take the time to leave comments, and simply ignore them. Talk:Desperate Housewives (season 3)/GA1 just failed, due to an inactivity from you on the review page. If you don't fix the issues at Talk:Desperate Housewives (season 2)/GA1 extremely soon, I presume that will be failed too. As I said, Ruby 2010/2013 and TonytheTiger took their time to create detailed reviews, and you just ignored them. This is not a polite practice, and if you are not interested in addressing issues on such articles, don't nominate them. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 18:05, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * God, I completely forgot! I've been so busy with WP:Grey's lately! I did not mean to be rude! I hope that doesn't affect your perspective on me. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 18:34, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No, it does not affect my perspective of you at all. It's just a tip for the next time you nominate.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 18:35, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

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Wishin' and Hopin'
Hi, as you have probably seen, I have failed the article. However, give it a week, then I would renominate it. :) — M.Mario  (T/C) 10:48, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Upright
Hi, Jonathan. Can you please stop adding the 'upright' parameter to all pictures I add to episode pages? The only reason for that would be if the pictures were extending out of the sections; which they're not. Thanks,  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 17:38, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I just wanted to help. I thought you weren't aware of the option. I apologize again. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 17:40, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I am fully aware of the option, but typically don't use it unless the photo is not fitting in the section.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 17:41, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

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A cookie for you!

 * Thank you! Glad to be helpful! Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 09:10, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

The Half Barnstar

 * Thank you so much! Great collaborating with you! Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 20:01, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Grey's Anatomy (season 3)
Hey, how are you doing with the above article? Any plans to take it to FAC anytime soon? TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 06:33, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm still waiting for it to be peer reviewed. But, yes, my plan is certainly to take it to FAC. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 07:25, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to see you reverted that "copyediting" to the article. It brought along loads of typos, random 'citation needed' tags, and lots of unnecessary subheaders; as well as the removal of lots of info.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 17:32, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * At first, I actually thought that having the copyedit done could have actually been helpful, but as I kept looking through the article, I noticed numerous nonsense edits, with no actual improvement for the article, but rather giving a regressing quality. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 17:36, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the one performed by Rumiton was good enough.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 17:37, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I definitely agree! Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 17:39, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Notice
Hi, Jonathan. I noticed you use 2 IMDb sources for Grey's Anatomy (season 3), that you found at Grey's Anatomy under 'Production team' and 'Filming locations and technique'. I was only using them temporarily, and have since replaced them. Per WP:IMDB, they are not allowed as sources. That said, the entire 'Crew' section at season three is based off of IMDb, and you use one again in 'Filming'. You have to replace the sources, because FAC will not permit it. Cheers,  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 01:10, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Desperate Housewives (season 2)/GA1
Can you please go finish addressing the issues at the review. I've left constant notices on your talk page, which you acknowledged. So, why is it that you continue to be inactive at the review? TonytheTiger has left you a message that he is close to failing (due to your inactivity), and you seem not to care. As I've said; it's a waste of reviewers' time for you to nominate something, and not respond to issues. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 01:44, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You know how busy I've been with Grey's. I am stuck, because I can't promote "I Am a Tree" to GA, and nobody seems to are about my peer review request for Grey's Anatomy (season 3). I will do my best to address the issues asap. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 07:39, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I've been busy too, but managed to do several FA reviews. You will promote it eventually, and your peer review request has been responded to. I waited for over a month for the PR for Grey's Anatomy. I think the DH review should be your first concern now, as it may fail.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 07:41, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Please address the remaining concerns within the next few days or this will be failed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:07, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Where've you been?
Hi, Jonathan, it seems you haven't edited in days now; and I was wondering if you plan on nominating Grey's Anatomy (season 3) for FA soon (the copyedit and peer review are complete). I hope you return to regular editing, soon. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 20:38, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. Thank you for your concern. I haven't been an active editor in the last few days, because I haven't been home for three days. I'm coming back to NYC on July 27. I am writing this message from my telephone, but I am using 3G connectivity, which is not available for laptops. As soon as I get back home, I'll address the issues from the peer review. Cheers. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 05:37, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear you'll be returning :) By the way, I've taken a break from developing episode articles to work on some character articles and prep Grey's Anatomy.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 06:03, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I stopped working on episode articles, too. I was just in a "demoralisé" state, after I couldn't find anything for reception at "I Am a Tree". But I think I'll be back soon. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 06:07, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I got really stressed out trying to develop one to GA each day. I think I'm going to try to do maybe 3-4 a week instead.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 06:09, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Opinion
The 64th Primetime Emmy Awards nominations were just announced, and is it just me, or do you think Grey's Anatomy was snubbed? First, I think the series should have been at least nominated for Outstanding Drama Series—it's been years! Also, I think Sandra Oh should have been nominated under the Supporting Actress in a Drama Series category, for the episode where she threw cereal at Owen. Luckily, Loretta Devine was nominated for Guest Actress in a Drama Series again. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 18:15, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There's further discussion at my talk page, Lol.  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 21:34, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I am completely shocked! I was really confident that the show would be nominated in several categories. It was a thrilling season and the acting was great, Emmy-worthy. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 09:34, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Great news
Hi! I know you were stressed out about not being able to find critical reception for "I Am a Tree", so I went out on a search to find some. I found four so far, and will continue to look for more. I posted them all at Talk:I Am a Tree, along with notes and instructions. I hope you find the time to read through them, and add them to the article! TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 19:26, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That is, indeed, outstanding news! Tremendous thanks! I don't know how you manage to stay so devoted and, therefore, focused. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 09:31, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll be back...
Hi, again! I recall you said you'd be returning to active editing today! I am currently on vacation, and will not be active on Wikipedia until my return (Monday). I planned on developing some articles while on vacation, but the mini wikibreak has been nice, and I have therefore decided to stay away from the site until my return. That said, [if you do] return today, try to keep an eye out for vandalism/spamming on the Grey's articles! Also, did you hear Dane is leaving the show? (http://tvline.com/2012/07/26/grey-anatomy-eric-dane-leaving/) Anyways, welcome back [assuming your return], and I'll talk to you on Monday! TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 04:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That is correct. I return home today, and my regular editing starts tomorrow. I'll keep an eye on the articles! Terrible news about Dane! Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 06:02, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 20:38, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Need opinion, ASAP
Hi, Jonathan. Grey's Anatomy is about to be copyedited, and I'm trying to fit in some last minute changes. I was looking for an opinion on the recurring characters section. Do you feel that I am leaving any important recurring character out? Likewise, do you think there are any recurring characters that did not play a big enough role to deserve a spot in that section? I tried to include recurring cast that was either on the series for a long time, or that played a big role in a particular season's development. Hope to hear back from you, TRLIJC19  ( talk  •  contribs ) 20:26, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I've read that section over a thousand times, because it just covers up perfectly every character. You put the emphasis on the more prominent ones, and provided the mention and a brief description for the one with repercussions on a shorter storyline. In my opinion, it is in great shape. Well done, Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 20:32, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for the fast feedback. Also, if you noticed, I put a blurb about the accuracy of the show in the last paragraph of critical response. It's from a surgical resident, not really a critic, but I didn't know of anywhere else to place it. Do you think it is okay where it is? TRLIJC19  ( talk  •  contribs ) 20:40, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I noticed that and I believe it fits in the section. After all, it is a critical opinion, and still, stands out as highlighting a different theme than the other reviews. Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 21:05, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Weekly Newsletter: July 30, 2012
WikiProject Grey Anatomy Newsletter: The Week of July 30, 2012 Hello members of WikiProject Grey Anatomy! We are sending out our weekly newsletter with updates about the project and tasks. Big apologies for the lack of the newsletter last week! First of all, we would like to welcome a new member to the project, TBrandley; we look forward to collaborating with him. We have several new achievements and updates to be announced! We have three new good articles! The articles that were promoted are "Give Peace a Chance" (previously a DYK), which was created and developed by TRLIJC19, Sadie Harris, which was developed by Sofffie7 and TRLIJC19, and "Flight", which was developed by Sofffie7 and TRLIJC19. Grey's Anatomy and Grey's Anatomy (season 3) are in the preparations for FAC. There are many things to be done for the project, in an attempt to exemplify its best work. Below is a list of tasks, and guidelines:

Weekly Initiative! The weekly initiative this week is to develop a Grey's Anatomy-related stub or start-class article, using the relevant guidelines above! Model your article off of a Grey's Anatomy page with GA status. Use your Wikipedia skills to fix MOS inconsistencies, copyedit, add more information by researching, and remove unreferenced claims! Barnstars will be awarded to users who destub/de-start their articles, and get the quality level promoted to at least 'C' class! You can determine if an article meets the 'C' class criteria by asking for the reviewing coordinator, TRLIC19, or one of his delegates (Jonathan Harold Koszeghi and Sofffie7) to review the article. Please do not change the article's quality rating yourself; you must have it reviewed by a member of the reviewing committee. A list of stub and start class Grey's Anatomy articles can be found at the project's main page. Also, use the templates listed at the project page to recruit new members; the more the merrier! Take part in these initiatives, have fun destubbing/starting articles, feel proud after the article you cleaned up looks better, and be rewarded with barnstars! Help make a difference and get started! Furthermore, if you notice that any user has participated in any weekly initiative and was not rewarded, give them a barnstar ASAP!

Have fun, and don't forget to cite everything you write! We hope to see several expanded articles, and new members, soon! --The community of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy (Written by newsletter coordinator TRLIJC19)

Notification
This is a notification that an administrative board has been created for WikiProject Grey's Anatomy. Further details are given at WikiProject Grey's Anatomy. There are three open positions, and since you are the next longest-running member of the project, besides me, you get the choice to choose a spot first. TRLIJC19 ( talk  •  contribs ) 21:26, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * What is the position you would like me to chose? Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 08:09, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Whichever you feel you would be best at. TRLIJC19  ( talk  •  contribs ) 14:34, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * If you need someone to be the Monitor, I would happily take the job. Im quite interested in Grey's Anatomy, so much so, I have kept watching your talk pages to keep up on what's going on in the project! — M.Mario  (T/C) 15:04, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you join the project first? Instructions are given at the project page. :-) TRLIJC19  ( talk  •  contribs ) 15:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ — M.Mario  (T/C) 15:10, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Great. M.Mario, as noted under the a-board information, the minimum requirement is one month of active membership. Therefore, the users who have been members the longest get the first pick. However, if some members who meet the criteria do not want a position, the requirement will be lifted for users in good standing (no recent blocks, etc.). So after I ask all the users who meet the criteria, I will let you know if there is still a position open. Also, Jonathan, I think you would be good as 'designer', because you are good with wikicode, and you know how to update the project page. TRLIJC19  ( talk  •  contribs ) 15:14, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool - I been looking through quite a few of the episodes, and after making Body of Proof episodes, I think I may cleanup a few created ones (ones which are not GA's). — M.Mario  (T/C) 15:19, 31 July 2012 (UTC)