User talk:Josve05a/Archives/2014/October

A barnstar for you!

 * The #wikipedia-en IRC channel is not associated with Wikipedia. It is not maintained, controlled or governed by any Wikipedia organization.  People have left Wikipedia, including one of mentors, Chzz, because of no control by Wikipedia.  However, people have been blocked and had their admin bit removed due to what they said there.  I consider the Wikipedia channels on IRC to be cesspools.  Don't leave Wikipedia on account of anything said in that dung heap.  When you do come back (I really hope you will), stay aware from there. Bgwhite (talk) 21:12, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia might not be the same, or in control of IRC, but it is the same people. I don't feel I want to be a part of a community with such people. I wish you all best of luck while I'm gone, and we'll see if I come back in the future. My last wikibreks lasted max 1 day each... (t) Josve05a  (c) (Retired) 21:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes and no. Many of the people on IRC rarely contribute to Wikipedia.  Wikipedia is made up of a group of people from all walks of like, but mostly young and male.  With any somewhat random group, you are going to get people with prejudices and different ways of thinking.  I've learned alot from so many different people.  That has been the most enjoyable part of Wikipedia.  The least enjoyable has been dealing with bigots and people who think they are at the center of the Universe.  Every person has to determine when the bad outweighs the good on their personal scale.  I refuse to be on IRC, be a part of ANI discussion except when necessary and edit many subjects in order to keep me sane and still be able to edit here.  I really hope you will still find enjoyment in editing Wikipedia and stay around.  Your interactions with me have been nothing but enjoyable and in many cases, a learning experience for me.  But if you can't find enjoyment, I do hope you stay away.  This place isn't worth it to be miserable.  Hmmm, what else is there to do in a Swedish winter? Bgwhite (talk) 22:13, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
I would like to take this oppertunity to thank all on you people who have writen such nice things to me here, to my mail, and on IRC (yes, I have still been on there, just not in official channels).

I have decided to take a small Wikibreak instead of retire, because I know I will come back and edit...SO congratulations! You have not seen the last of me! (t) Josve05a  (c) (on a break) 08:56, 2 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I hadn't posted before, but I came here to say I'm glad to see you resumed editing, even if just a little bit. Don't let them get you down. BTW I'm Rihan on IRC. (I lurk a lot - don't have an IRC client on the laptop I use to edit from work.) Yngvadottir (talk) 13:03, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back
Hey there, good to see you've come back. There's no need to apologise for disruption at all. I think for different reasons we all have times when we question our participation here, and with the horrible stuff it sounds like you've heard I don't blame you at all. So, welcome back and good luck going forward! BethNaught (talk) 21:28, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Request on 18:20:07, 4 October 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by BlazeSPM
Hello, I see that my article about the Giordano Memorization System was declined for copyright reasons, and I assure you this is a misunderstanding, because all the information in the article is available for FREE on:

pmemory.com and http://realmemoryimprovement.com/

All the information is disclosed on those websites. Plus, I DO have permission by the website owner to publish this article. So there is no reason why this article shouldn't be on wikipedia.

BlazeSPM (talk) 18:20, 4 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I see no indication those websites have released their content under a free license that allows everybody to re-use and modify their content for any purpose, including commercial purposes - and that would be the kind of license required to re-use the content on Wikipedia. For example, the Terms of Use of realmemoryimprovement.com say, quote, "it is illegal to copy, distribute, or create derivative works from our material in whole or in part, or to contribute to the copying, distribution, or creating of derivative works of our material", while pmemory.com says at the bottom of their website: "Copyright © www.pmemory.com, 2007-2013 All rights reserved."
 * That said, those websites would not be considered reliable sources; they're out to sell products, not to provide accurate information. Copy-pasting content from those websites would not give a good encyclopedia article even if it were not explicitly illegal. You should find sources such as newspapers, reputable magazines or peer-reviewed scholarly papers, sources which are subject to editorial oversight and which have a reputation for fact-checking, discussing the GMS in some detail, and summarize what those sources report. Huon (talk) 18:38, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

The copyright of the GMS Manual is:

"School of Phenomenal Memory®. GMS Manual. Copyright 2006 by Ruslans Mescerjakovs. All rights reserved. No part of this book may be reproduced or transmitted in any form, by any means, (electronic, photocopying, recording, or otherwise) without the prior written permission of the author or Ruslans Mescerjakovs."

I do have permission from Ruslans Mescerjakovs. What do you need in terms of proof in order for me to post this article?

And another thing I wanted to ask: You said that even if the article wasn't explicitly illegal, the source is not reliable and the information not accurate. Not reliable source in what way? Not accurate in what way?

Thank You.

BlazeSPM (talk) 14:16, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Just so you know...
There is a 3rr exemption for reverting a banned user. If you want to take responsibility that's fine but don't misrepresent my actions. Thank you. Spartaz Humbug! 15:26, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I said if you reverted my edits /aswell/, since that would go againt Edit warring-policy. (and by the way that "exemption" is only for, and I quote, "Reverting actions performed by banned users, and sockpuppets of banned or blocked users". There is no "proof that the user is banned. There has been no SPI, as far as I can tell, and before that has been completed, or that the user making the edits are blocked, that exemption is invalid.

) Happy editing! (t) Josve05a  (c) 15:33, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * performed by banned users (no proof)
 * sockpuppets of banned or blocked users (no proof, and no SPI)
 * Another quote from WP:Edit warring: "If you are claiming an exemption, make sure there is a clearly visible edit summary [my emphasis] or separate section of the talk page [my emphasis] that explains the exemption. When in doubt, do not revert. [my emphasis] Instead, engage in dispute resolution, and in particular ask for help at relevant noticeboards such as the Edit war/3RR noticeboard."
 * Ping! Happy editing! (t) Josve05a  (c) 15:39, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Happy editing??? Are you really that immature or are you trying to wind me up. 15:42, 6 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spartaz (talk • contribs)
 * (Either this is againt WP:AGF or WP:NPA...) (t) Josve05a  (c) 15:49, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the WP:AGF, really nice. If you look in some of my archives, I actully keep using that quote a lot. (also, I think you forgot to sign your username) (t) Josve05a  (c) 15:45, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * link to one, I don't usually talk here, but on others talk pages I use it a lot. (t) Josve05a  (c) 15:46, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * My Agf went the same place yours went to mine. You do know whose edits you are taking responsibility for don't you? Spartaz Humbug! 15:50, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No!!! Please link me to the SPI, or a CU-check...(t) Josve05a  (c) 15:55, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Obviously you know otherwise you wouldn't have made a point of saying that you were taking responsibility. You clearly knew it was a banned user. Spartaz Humbug! 16:02, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I KNOW OR NOT. The arguemt still stand. If no SPI/CU-check has been filed/done, there if no proof of sockpuppetering, mening that the "3RR-exemption" that you tried to get away with, is invalid. What you (or I think) is behind it is a whole other story, and has nothing to do with actual issue. (Plus that you failed "If you are claiming an exemption, make sure there is a clearly visible edit summary [my emphasis] or separate section of the talk page [my emphasis] that explains the exemption." compleatly.) (t) Josve05a  (c) 16:06, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * caught you out in a lie didn't I. If you are going to troll on behalf of banned users you need to develop a thicker skin and not get caught in obvious falsehoods.  You knew who I was reverting exactly as I did. I don't think I need to take lessons in wiki behaviour from the likes of you. Good luck with the next stage in defending the undefensible. Be seeing you. Spartaz Humbug! 18:02, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Let me answer this comment in sections;
 * "caught you out in a lie didn't I" - Umm...no! I said "No!!! Please link me to the SPI, or a CU-check", and as anyone else should have detected, I was sarcastically making fun of you.
 * "troll on behalf of banned users" - Are you accusing me to meatpuppet? If thatis the case, (thanks, again for the AGF, very fitting for an admin). I HAVEN'T TROLLED, at least not to my knowledge. I saw that you were on the verge on edit warring, reverting multiple IPs without giving an explanation,and not blocking any IPs. And thanks to prior experience,I know how to "take responsibility" for an edit.(Hence the bla-blah-bla, it is getting normal to list those policies.)
 * "you need to develop a thicker skin" - Umm...no thank you.
 * "not get caught in obvious falsehoods" - Please refer the first point.
 * "You knew who I was reverting exactly as I did." - Still doesn't give you the right to do it. There need to be an SPI, and a clear explanation, why it isn't 3RR. You reverted it ~4 times I believe...
 * "I don't think I need to take lessons in wiki behaviour from the likes of you" - Likes of me?
 * Users who actually list the policies above, which you then say "but you know who it is don't you?", which has nothing to the point, whether or not if I know.
 * Or is it because I'm gay? Hmmm...
 * "Good luck" - THANKS!
 * "Be seeing you." - Oh you mean on AN/I,or AN/3RR?, just let me know where and when !

And as always, but this time please AGF and don't NPA: Happy editing! (t) Josve05a  (c) 18:54, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * One day when you grow up I expect you will cringe with embarrassment about how you come across here with  while being  about what you already knew. Feel free to waste your own time at ANI or AN3. Good luck,  love calling for boomerangs. Unfortunately, given your behavior I don't have much faith that you will ever feel ashamed for proxying for a  who thinks its OK to  someone to produce a  video of rubbing their dick over a picture of another user and uploading it to commons to  them.  Good job sport enabling Russavia's campaign of  and  on wikipedia,  Spartaz Humbug! 06:33, 7 October 2014 (UTC)



WP:TL;DR
(t) Josve05a  (c) 15:28, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 1)  stats edit warring with IPs, reverting all their edits, violation of 3RR.
 * I,, makes dummy edits taking responsibility for the edits. And saying that if he reverts my edit, he is on the verge on edit warring in violation of policies.
 * 1)  comes here telling me that it is not in violation of 3RR since the IP belongs to a banned user.
 * 2) I refer to WP:Edit warring and WP:3RR with quotes about the IPs has to be proven to belong to a banned user. And that he has to clearly state, in an edit summary or in another way like the talk page, about how he is not violating 3RR.
 * 3) He refuses to listen to policies and quotes. Instead turning this around to me asking if I know who the IPs belong to, accusing me to troll and meatpuppeting.
 * 4) I deflect it, claimng that it doesn't matter if If I know, or think I know who the user is.
 * 5) He starts saying that I lied, and compleatly forgets the main issue.
 * 6) I answers, in a "funny" way.
 * 7) He starts to go for personal attacks, accusing me for proxy edit, and lastely compleatly ignores his own fault, problem and the main issue.

Armenian cochineal
Thank you very much for reviewing the AfC and cleaning up the article move! Ketone16 (talk) 20:31, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No, thank you, for writing such a good article! Keep it up! (t) Josve05a  (c) 20:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #128
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 * Open RfA: Nikosguard
 * Events/Blogs/Press
 * Upcoming IRC office hour about structured data on Commons
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * All human genes are now wikidata items, for example: Here is one (of approximately 40,000) called "spinocerebellar ataxia 37" - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18081265. Blog post about this to appear here: http://blog.wikimedia.de/tag/wikidata/
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 * Development
 * Spent the week with the WMF multimedia team and volunteers to get more clarity about structured data on Commons. We'll be asking for feedback on a lot of stuff over the next weeks. The main info hub is taking shape at Commons:Structured data.
 * More fixes for the switch to HHVM
 * Looked into possible performance improvements. Some of them will be taken into the next sprint.
 * Battled a handful of nasty issues on the live-site
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Tech News: 2014-42
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Tech News: 2014-43
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 * You can test a new system to see math using MathML. Go to your display options and choose "".
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Wikidata weekly summary #129
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 20:26, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Discussions
 * Do you want to see constraint violation reports and referencing improved? Please provide input.
 * Events/Blogs/Press
 * IRC office hour about structured data on Commons (log)
 * hackathon around scholarly articles on Wikidata (etherpad with notes)
 * Blog post about the meeting to discuss structured data on Commons in Berlin
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Clusters of humans and species on Wikidata
 * New parameter in the template Property documentation: subject item; see [this example edit] for how to use it
 * New tool: Linked Items. Returns sorted, de-duped list of Q values from a Wikipedia page, or chunk of wiki-text. Thank you, Magnus!
 * Wikidata annotation tool is looking for feedback
 * Wikidata: A Free Collaborative Knowledgebase by Denny and Markus has been published. It gives a very nice non-technical overview of Wikidata.
 * Magnus re-wrote Wiki ShootMe to now use Wikidata.
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 * Newest properties: At the Circulating Library ID, MacTutor id (biographies), allmovie identifier, number of survivors, given name version for other gender, name in native language, tempo marking, manifestation of, zbMATH author ID, Executive Order number
 * Development
 * Improvements to sitelink editing usability
 * Released Wikibase DataModel 2.0
 * Profiling and performance improvements in Wikibase and Wikibase DataModel
 * Implementing LabelLookup, which is needed to improve performance of EntityId formatting. This will lead to improved item page loading times.
 * Added new featured list and recommended article badges.
 * Remove most usage of class aliases to be compatible with HHVM (dependencies of 71295)
 * Monthly Tasks
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help fix these items which have been flagged using Wikidata - The Game.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item

Unless I missed it...
The Teamwork awards could well be handled now. Fiddle  Faddle  22:16, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh Gosh Golly. I forgot about those... <span style="background: turquoise;font-family: 'Segoe Script', 'Comic Sans MS';">(t) Josve05a  (c) 08:35, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Done! <span style="background: turquoise;font-family: 'Segoe Script', 'Comic Sans MS';">(t) Josve05a  (c) 08:43, 29 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Way cool. Thanks for finishing the job. Fiddle   Faddle  08:54, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

For making a quick save

 * Thank you! Always nice with some encouragement. I only try to help out the best I can. Can't do more than that. <span style="background: turquoise;font-family: 'Segoe Script', 'Comic Sans MS';">(t) Josve05a  (c) 12:18, 31 October 2014 (UTC)ß

Happy Halloween!!!
Cheers! &#34;We could read for-EVER&#59; reading round the wiki!&#34; (talk) 18:23, 31 October 2014 (UTC)