User talk:KangarooGymnast

Links to draft articles
Please do not introduce links in actual articles to draft articles, as you did to Wilfred Beckerman. Since a draft is not yet ready for the main article space, it is not in shape for ordinary readers, and links from articles should not go to a draft. Such links are contrary to the Manual of Style. Thank you. - Arjayay (talk) 22:44, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Sorry. I had no idea that was a rule violation. I appreciate you pointing that out to me. If my draft there gets accepted, am I permitted to reinstate the link? KangarooGymnast (talk) 22:46, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Poverty in Italy has been accepted
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Companions and Pets Party has been accepted
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Thanks again, and happy editing! ~Liancetalk 22:05, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * That was fast. Thank you! KangarooGymnast (talk) 22:05, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem. Thank you for your contribution! ~Liancetalk 22:07, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Companions and Pets Party for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Companions and Pets Party is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Companions and Pets Party until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. Fermiboson (talk) 00:00, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I appreciate you nominating it for deletion. In all honesty, it's probably not notable to pass WP:NORG, and I probably would have voted to delete if it wasn't for the fact I created it myself. It's definitely not my best work compared to other articles I've submitted via AfC. However, I'm not sure what brought you to the conclusion of the article being promotional/NPOV, or, at the very least, I never intended to write the entry as such. What exactly brought that to your conclusion? KangarooGymnast (talk) 05:04, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your collegiality. To go into a bit more detail of what I said at the AfD page, I think a lot of the issues are caused by your largely primary sourcing, but they are issues nonetheless. For example, I'm not sure anyone but the party itself would ever describe it as an animal welfare advocate. (And just for full disclosure I don't really care that much about the politics here, but I think we can agree that when people say "animal welfare" people are not referring to the right of racehorse stables to breed the hell out of every stallion.) "Passionate about" is another typical promotional wording. You have the quotes, which present one (biased) point of view on the party. "Well-respected", "counterbalance... radicalism" etc are the more egregious examples that I have removed. And of course there is also the fact that "animal extremists" links to Animal Justice Party, which is definitely a big no-no unless you can find an RS that refers to the AJP as animal extremists. Normally, the way to resolve these kinds of issues is to put in secondary source descriptions of the party as opposed to its mission statement, and include criticism of the party (I assume there are people who wish to criticise them). The problem is, of course, that because the party is so fringe and small, nobody pays any attention to them in RS and hence nobody has written any usable criticism of them. This is a chronic problem I see in non-notable and barely notable political party pages, where the only POV we can present is a biased POV because the only source is the party itself and people who wish to promote them, and is generally a good sign that the party really shouldn't have a page in the first place. Fermiboson (talk) 09:47, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I have returned the article to mainspace with writing more in line with WP:NPOV, and deletion of the unreliable citations. I would hope that is sufficient for you for this to pass WP:NORG. KangarooGymnast (talk) 09:28, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

2015 Dutch water board elections moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to 2015 Dutch water board elections. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because most of the references don't work at all, and/or don't establish notability. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:12, 23 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The entry's notability is inherited because it's an important provincial election, e.g the election recieved the turnout of over 40% of the Dutch voter population. It's especially disheartening to see that it immediately got moved within a minute of me moving the article into mainspace. KangarooGymnast (talk) 19:14, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Phillips Academy Poll
Welcome to Wikipedia. A page you recently created, Phillips Academy Poll, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for new pages, so it will be removed shortly (if it hasn't been already). Please use your sandbox for any tests, and consider using the Article Wizard. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article. You may also want to read our introduction page to learn more about contributing. The subject failed an AFD last year and the draft-space article from which you copied was rejected this year. DMacks (talk) 07:30, 26 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I see. Well, I was about to list it at technical requests in order to include the determiner. I can assure you I was not intending to bypass the rejection of the draft. KangarooGymnast (talk) 07:35, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No harm done. DMacks (talk) 07:36, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

KangarooGymnast (talk) 00:01, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024
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is declined. ✅ to. I want to be very, very clear. This is not just a case of coincidentally sharing an IP address, despite claims to the contrary. --Yamla (talk) 10:21, 9 January 2024 (UTC)