User talk:Keithonearth

Cogset article
That's a good point about most single speed (non-bmx) bikes using a coaster brake, I'd not thought of that. That's probably true for N. American, (I'm Canadian), but I was thinking of the Asian Utility bikes when I wrote that... maybe I can make that make sense. --Keithonearth (talk) 00:43, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I was thinking of N. America. If you have some information about Asia, please put it in. Without anything concrete, though, we're stuck with "many" instead of "most".


 * No, I wouldn't know where to start on bicycle articles. They start to all look fine until someone new comes along with fresh eyes and stirs the pot a little. -AndrewDressel (talk) 02:15, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep up the good work. If you get a chance, perhaps you could take a look at Bicycle and motorcycle dynamics, Bicycle and motorcycle geometry, and Bicycle performance. -AndrewDressel (talk) 12:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, I was thinking of editing your Freehub_vs_freewheel_hub to do a cut away section of each to show the bearings. (well, at least to try to) What did you use to make it? Would you have a svg (or other format that inkscape can handle) kicking around somewhere?


 * No such luck, sorry. I drew it in MS Word. I can send you that, if it would help. -AndrewDressel (talk) 14:09, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I seem to be stepping on your toes more than I mean to these days...sorry about that.


 * Don't mind me. I get cranky sometimes. Sorry about that. I like your new diagram a lot, and added to the discussion on the cogset talk page. -AndrewDressel (talk) 13:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Bicycle boom
Good edit! Thanks! Les woodland (talk) 08:39, 15 October 2008 (UTC)les woodland

Handlebar tape
Good catch on the cheater strip. Any mechanic worth his or her salt wraps without these. -AndrewDressel (talk) 15:07, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year
2008's been a pleasure, and I look forward to 2009. -AndrewDressel (talk) 18:47, 1 January 2009 (UTC)


 * You've singled out the bike I've ridden the most and the bike I've ridden the least. I bought the Litespeed new in 1994 to be the last bike I would ever need after riding the Cannondale just about into the ground. I snagged the Trek at the shop. Someone had donated it for some project, and I figured a neat old Raleigh with matching rack and fenders I had would be just as appreciated. The Trek appears to be all original with not too many miles on it. What're you on these days? -AndrewDressel (talk) 14:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Sadly, I do not know if an 8spd Dura-Ace cassette uses the same free hub body as 7spd non-Dura-Ace shimano cassettes. Have you looked here? Wow, you done some awesome traveling? What's your favorite trip? -AndrewDressel (talk) 03:12, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

no problem
It happens. As such I have not applied for rollback permission, so only thing I can do is undo the diffs. While undoing it was not showing the usual 'changes made by user so and so'. Since, it was made by a newbie user and since already lead section had a sentence (not in the first sentence though) carrying the info he intended to convey in his change, I did not bother to look back username etc.--GDibyendu (talk) 08:57, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Local bike shop
Thanks for weighing in. I was beginning to think that maybe I'm the crazy one. If you have any better references, seriously please put them in. For the most part, though, I think the WP:Cite guideline, of only referencing what is challenged or might be challenged, applies.-AndrewDressel (talk) 20:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

German Translation
Your drawing “Labeled_Bicycle_Hub_Comparison-en.svg”‎ is excellent. I tried to translate it into German, but I am not very familiar with svg-files. Can you do that? If yes, I will write down the German Translation here at that place.--112BKS (talk) 07:47, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the complement. I'm glad you like it.  I may be able to do that, but in all honesty it wouldn't be at the top of my list.  There is also a language neutral version: Image:Bicycle Hub Comparison.svg.  Or I do think that you would be able to do it, have you played around with Inkscape at all, I didn't know how to use it before I edited Image:Bicycle evolution-numbers.svg to be Image:Bicycle Frame Diagram-en.svg. It's a great program, and I think very useful for diagram stuff on wikipedia.--Keithonearth (talk) 08:06, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the easiest way is: You just double your file “Labeled_Bicycle_Hub_Comparison-en.svg”‎ and save it under the new file-name “Labeled_Bicycle_Hub_Comparison-de.svg”‎ (-de instead of –en). Afterwards I will change (in the –de file) the English description into the German description. This is pretty easy. After that, your job is to adjust the blue colored frames around the German descriptions and the blue lines between the blue frames and the parts at the hub. (This is too difficult for me.) Do you agree?--112BKS (talk) 10:31, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm don't like the idea of you doing the words and me doing the boxes, I don't think it'll save me much time, and it has the possibility to end up taking me more time, as I would be less famillar how the objects are grouped, and layered, and the like. There are a few other changes I'd like to make to that image, so if you put the translation here I could do those changes at the same time as doing a de version.

Here is the translation from English to German. Not every word is translated 1:1. In that case I give you a short explanation.


 * freehub --> Kassettennabe (Not 1:1. This is just the most used German word for that kind of hub)


 * freewheel hub --> Zahnkranznabe Schraubkranznabe (Not 1:1. Same explanation as above)


 * axle --> Achse


 * lock nut --> Kontermutter


 * bearing cone --> Konus


 * ball bearing --> Kugel (Not 1:1, In English: ball)


 * bearing cup --> Lagerschale


 * flange with spoke holes --> Speichenflansch (1st line : “Speichen-“, 2nd line: “flansch”)


 * spacer --> Distanzscheibe (very difficult to translate! If the spacer is more a washer we say “Distanzscheibe”. If the washer is very thick, we say “Distanzrohr”)


 * freehub body screws into the hub shell --> Gewinde zur Befestigung des Freilaufkörpers (not 1:1, but similar) 1st line: “Gewinde zur”, 2nd line “Befestigung des”, 3rd line: “Freilaufkörpers”


 * cassette slides onto splines --> Freilaufkörper mit Nuten für Kassetten-Zahnkranz (1st line: "Freilaufkörper mit Nuten“, 2nd line: "für Kassetten-*Zahnkranz“) This is not 1:1. In English: Freehub body with notches for the cassette. Your original English text is not easy to translate into German.


 * Freewheel threads onto hub --> Schraubkranz-Gewinde (1st line: "Schraubkranz-“, 2nd line “Gewinde”) This is also not 1:1. In English: Thread for the freewheel

That’s everything. Thank you--112BKS (talk) 08:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It would seem appropriate to put this discussion up someplace where more people who would be interested in it could get a chance to read it.  I was going to do it myself, put it up on the Zahnkranzpaket talk page, but I don't know if that would be the best place.  Could you copy the translation to an appropriate page on de and put the link here.  It seems to me to be a more inclusive way to do it.  I'll make the other alteration to the image that I've been meaning to do, and give it a few days or a week, and if all everybody is happy with the translation, I'll do a de version.  --Keithonearth (talk) 08:34, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Zahnkranzpaket is the wrong place. I need your drawing for the article Fahrradnabe beneath the third image. I set a link from de: Diskussion:Fahrradnabe to your page here.--112BKS (talk) 11:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I've just re-upped the en image with a few minor modifications. Mainly I've changed the non-drive-side (left) of the hub to make it more accurate (I'd mistakenly made it so that it would have been impossible to press in the left cup.)  More relevantly to this discussion is that I added a label for the "dust cover" on the left side.  While it's not that important, I think it is of interest, as cassette and FW hubs tend to have significantly different dust covers.  And it may not be that clear what they are in the image.  If you let me know a good way to translate "dust cover" I'll put that in the de version, other than that it's all done, and can be upped anytime.--Keithonearth (talk) 01:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The German translation for “Dust cover“ is a little bit difficult. If it has the shape of a washer the German word is “Staubschutzscheibe” (In English: Dust-Protection-Washer). In the case of the freehub the German word is “Staubschutzhaube” (In English: Dust-Protection-Cap). But in your diagram is not enough space for both terms. So I think we need a compromise: “Staubschutz” (in English: Dust Protection) I think, the dust cover on the freewheel hub is not 100% perfect. Normally there is a little gap between the dust cover and the bearing cone (or if the dust cover is fixed on the bearing cone, the little gap is between dust cover and hub body). By the way: I also use your diagram “Bicycle_wheel_dish_diagram.svg‎”. The centre line at the rim is hard to see! The visibility would be better, if it is a little bit darker. Please excuse my terrible English. I hope it is understandable.--112BKS (talk) 17:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it would be best if we just left the dust cover description out? Making the centre line more clear is something that I'd been meaning to do as well. I hope you don't mind that I put up a request to get input on your translaion, it's not that I thought it was wrong, just I think somethings can be a bit subjective, and others may have a different preference. You English is excellent, no need to apologies. Nor would there be a need if it wasn't so good, it's great to have the communication between the different language versions, keep it up. I hope you don't mind that I put up a request to get input on your translaion, it's not that I thought it was wrong, just I think somethings can be a bit subjective, and others may have a different preference. --Keithonearth (talk) 22:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with you. It is the best to leave the dust cover description in the de-version out. A sentence to our translation-problem: Especially with technical terms, you can use a lot of different words for the same identical thing. But some terms are common and other terms are not common. It is always the best to hear a lot of different opinions! For example: You can translate the word “cassette” into five (minimum) different German words which all have the same meaning! A very good possibility for translations is that: http://dict.leo.org/ (Another way is to look, which words are used by companies like shimano or sram.)--112BKS (talk) 07:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok it's up, File:Labeled Bicycle Hub Comparison-de.svg, let me know if theres any typos or other errors. Oh, and would you mind putting up a German description?  It's only got an english description at the moment, and that's pretty silly for a file that's labled in German.--Keithonearth (talk) 01:55, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I made an incredible mistake! My translation for “freewheel hub” is pretty wrong. The German translation is not “Zahnkranznabe”, it is “Schraubkranznabe”. Can you please change the wrong word “Zahnkranznabe” to the proper word “Schraubkranznabe”. It was my fault. Sorry about that! The rest of your picture looks very good and is 100% OK. Thanks a lot.--112BKS (talk) 17:19, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Your picture is now perfect. You can see it here Fahrradnabe. Actual it is to see at tab „Entwurf“. A good drawing says much more than thousand words.--112BKS (talk) 21:15, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Aksai Chin
Yikes....check out the edits I made yesterday to Aksai Chin. I didn't realize until now when I looked further down the history what a battle it's been for you and FowlerandFowler to attempt to reign in Hindutashravi who is way out of touch with the facts. Some days (like all this week) I get to work on Aksai Chin all day, and next week will be headed over again to Ladakh (I see you've gotten there a few times!!) but I didn't mean to jump into this article uninvited.....I was just trying to correct some of the geographic trivia (heights, rivers, Soda Plains is only the northern part) plus the rather important and verifiable fact that India showed the line variable and indistinctly until the 1954 Nehru decree; only then did their maps start showing Aksai Chin as part of India uniformly; McMahon Line doesn't apply here, etc.  I'll be away, but I'm with you on your efforts to maintain a modicum of the NPOV facts in this article!....keep up the good work.DLinth (talk) 14:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
warrior 4321  17:53, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Tibet map
Hi, I greatly need a locator map pin for Tibet. I've got one here. I was wondering if you knew how to enter the correct digits using goole earth like Template:Location map China Yunnan province. At present the digits are for Yunnan. Any idea how we can get it to work? Could you please find the coordinates of your map? Plus we could really do with some svg pin locator maps for all of the Chinese provinces!! At present though, Tibet is what I'm after.. Himalayan  14:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

HI. Try it for Rutog. For some reason it displays several hundred kilometres east of where it should be. I wonder if you could speak to User:NordNordWest on German wikipedia. Perhaps he could give you some guidance on creating blank svg in projection for a pin locator maps? Right now we could seriously use some good quality Chinese province maps like Tibet, Qinghai, Sichuan and the rest like Template:Location map Germany Thuringia! What I'll do is draw up some empty shell templates ready.. Himalayan   18:55, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Any chance you could do a another version of File:Tibet&neighbors.svg without the Tibetan Autonomous name written on it so it is clear or/and another version of File:Lhasa map.svg without Lhasa labelled and highlighted, a blank map? Himalayan   19:02, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Am I meant to be basing the coordinates on centre-left, centre-right, etc? Do you know if it needs to be a certain projection for it to work?
 * No prob to do another vertion without the lables, but I'm not super keen to do maps of other Chinese states, I was surprised how much work this simple one was. Let's figure out how to get the pointer pointing in the right spot before I put effort into removing the labels, not that it's much work, it just seems sensible.--Keithonearth (talk) 19:06, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

OK. You should ask NNW about map projections. He may be able to answer what you are looking for.. Himalayan   19:16, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I guess part of the problem is I don't know what we are looking for. What exactly we are looking for?  --Keithonearth (talk) 19:31, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

What are we looking for? Blank maps of the provinces of China like File:Location map China Sichuan.png that can be used to display in infoboxes with a pin point. Say Chengdu for instance. Himalayan   19:37, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I mean, what are the issues that are causing the Tibet Locator map to not render locations properly. We need to accurately determine the map edge coordinates, we need to figure out what projection the map is/should be.  Are there other issues that I'm not aware of?  Or missed the importance of.  --Keithonearth (talk) 19:45, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

You should definately ask NNW... Thanks for your new map without lables BTW... Himalayan   22:28, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Lhoka
How can you say south Tibet"is an area Chinese government has recognized to be Indian"? That's too distorted. --虞海 (Yú Hǎi) (talk) 08:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe in that case I was trying to make the article in question not contradict itself. Thanks for using a talk page, but the Lhoka Prefecture Talk Page would be a much better place for us to talk about this, so everyone can see the discussion, and contribute if they want to.  I think it is important to be transparent in communications on Wikipedia.  --Keithonearth (talk) 04:25, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Tibet county locator requests
HI. I've recently expanded Lhorong County and aim to fill out some of the others. However I was wondering if you could use your File:Tibet&neighbors Locator map.svg to create county locators by shading in the relative county in red like say Sikasso Cercle and saving it as e.g File:Lhorong County locator map.svg, File:Rutog County locator map.svg etc. If you could do all of the counties in Tibet I'd be grateful. It shouldn't take you more than a few minutes to produce each one it is just a case of using the blank map each time and highlighting the relative county. You can work them out using the existing maps anyway. This would be a great help if you could do this. Shade the county in dark red? Actually you could use the same dark orange/tan color you did with File:Shigatse map.svg that'd be fine and you could write the name of the county e.g Lhorong County in the same writing underneath that'd look good. So basically I would like a set of svg county locators like File:Shigatse map.svg but with the relative counties shaded rather than the whole prefectures. Can you do this? I don't them with the yellow bachground for the prefecture like in the horrid picture on the bottom right, but just say each county highlighted in the tan color nice and clean for whatever country it is. No pink and yellow!!. Himalayan  22:40, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm flattered that you would like to use the SVG Tibet map I put together as a starting point for county level locator maps. I have two concerns about it: First I'm not sure that the map will be accurate enough if scaled up to that level of detail; second we never got past the issues with the projection of the map (how it should be a equirectangular projection and it's not) that causes the push pins to locate improperly.  I'd not want to have a bunch of locater maps using this wrong projection.  It would be tempting for editors to tweak the location in the template so it renders the right location on the wrong projection.  Then someone makes a map with the right projection, and more accuracy, and none of the push pins are in the right spot.  So I'd like to politely decline the suggestion.  As much as I'd like to see the end of the pink and yellow colour scheme.--Keithonearth (talk) 17:48, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Naaa No no I don't want county "pushpin" maps!!! I just want you to shade in the relative county in Tibet and create different ones. Ah, I'll have to do a png example so you understand what I mean. Himalayan   18:57, 17 November 2009 (UTC) See Banbar County now. I don't have the svg facilities though. Do you see what I want? Himalayan  19:06, 17 November 2009 (UTC) No it doesn't work for some of them. Please can you help me out here? Himalayan   18:54, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure I can do some of these. I did work hard to keep the file well organized (sensible layers, etc) and inkscape is a great program, I didn't know how to use it when I did with my first image and I would encourage you to download Inksacape and give it a try.  It would be nice to see the file format stay as SVG, it's so much more flexable.  A couple things that might through off someone new to inkscape: You'll need to unlock the layers, (Layer->Layers-> click on lock icon), and change the lines to solid before using the flood fill tool, (Object->Fill and Stroke->Stroke Style -> Dashes), then use the flood fill tool, and change back to the original dashes.  But if that's not something you want to do that's cool.  --Keithonearth (talk) 22:15, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * OK, got Lhorong up, and updated the page. Is that what you had in mind?  I removed the pushpin map, as it seemed redundant.  I'm just going to leave it at that one for now, as if I due more now I'll be guilty of Editing While Distracted.  --Keithonearth (talk) 01:58, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Spoke length
Sorry I haven't responded, but I don't know the answer off the top of my head and I'm up to my eyeballs with end-of-semester stuff here. Maybe after final grades are posted. -AndrewDressel (talk) 15:10, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Splitting Motorize bicycle into two articles
I wanted to make sure that you had seen my discussion re: my plans to split Motorized bicycle into two articles, one of which will deal exclusively with ebikes. Please let me know if you have any input. Thanks! Ebikeguy (talk) 20:26, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, as an article that's utility cycling related I do take an interest. I've been on holiday for the last 6 weeks though and not on wikipedia much at all, so kind of missed the boat on that one.  Looks like you've done a great job all the same.--Keithonearth (talk) 21:23, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Cycle rickshaw article
Hi KOE,

A user Ckatz is continously removing a published article on cycle rickshaws calling it spam etc. Can you please have a look.

Thanks. 59.95.6.197 (talk) 14:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Exploded Sturmey AW Diagram
Hi, truly excellent diagram, but I have a few little niggles: It looks like the bottom-most part you included is the outer axle nut, that keeps the hub in the frame? If so, then I think you've neglected to explode it into the nut plus the plastic cover on it -- that or it's a newer version I'm not familiar with. Since you're going out to the axlenuts, would it be a good idea (if it'll fit) to show some frame ends in between? 80.101.113.45 (talk) 13:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you like the diagram. Good eye to catch the plastic cover on the axle nut.  I don't remember why I didn't explode that too, I think it'll come off, but don't have it accessible for a few months.  Putting some sort of representation of the dropouts is a good idea too, but I'm not sure how to make it work and make it look non-stupid.  If you like I can post the xcf file (GIMP's native format) for you to edit if you want, I'm not going to put more time in to it in all honesty.  --Keithonearth (talk) 13:38, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Bicycle Quarterly
Please note that an editor has added a notability tag to the Bicycle Quarterly article. The tag includes a statement that the article may be deleted if the notability of the subject matter is not established. Since you recently contributed to the article, I thought you might want to do some more work to save it. Ebikeguy (talk) 22:58, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Bike Diagrams For Book
Hi Keith, I've seen your work on Wikipedia and like it. I'm writing a book about bicycling and wondered if you'd be interested in doing a few relevant diagrams of bike parts for it, in the same style as you've already done for Wikipedia? If you're interested, please get in touch. Thanks, Friedel

http://travellingtwo.com/get-in-touch —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.131.175.119 (talk) 17:39, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Images on sheldonbrown.com
I've used your two excellent exploded illustrations of bicycle headsets, slightly modified (resized, text moved to save space, borders removed from around text) on http://sheldonbrown.com/headsets.html. Thanks for the license rights and please check that it's OK. No big deal, but I would prefer that the image of the threadless headset not have the red centerline down the middle so it like the other one, if that is something you don't mind doing. Also, in this image, you didn't indicate where the handlebar stem goes -- that might be added. If the new image is the same size as the old one, I can just cut and paste w/o having to do anything else. Jsallen1 (talk) 14:57, 14 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm honored to have my images used on Sheldonbrown.com. I'm glad to see you are respecting the open copyright.  Your feedback seems totally reasonable, and I think you're right that showing the where the threadless stem goes would be a good idea.  Maybe the quill stem too.  I like the red line, I'd rather add a red line to the threaded stem too, but I'm happy to provide a version without lines. I'll get to work on making some modifications. --Keithonearth (talk) 07:22, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Article in Science
You may have seen this already, but in case you haven't I thought I'd give you a heads up that Science published an article on Bicycle Stability. The abstract is avalable free here, but you have to pay to read the full thing. I think I'll have to pick up a copy, dead tree style. --Keithonearth (talk) 05:22, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey Keith! Great to hear from you. It's been a while. Congrats on getting your pictures on Sheldon Brown's site. Sorry if that happened long ago and I just didn't notice.
 * Anyway, yes, I did see the Science piece. It got some great press coverage. Very exciting. I've tried to update bicycle and motorcycle dynamics, and I created a new article on the two-mass-skate bicycle. There are links at the bottom to the authors' own sites that have PDF copies of their preprints that they are allowed to post for free. There is also a ton of additional material there as well, if you're into that sort of thing. -AndrewDressel (talk) 12:36, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Just in case you missed my belated response
Does Template:Freeze help? -- SPhilbrick  T  20:06, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Never mind (see Help_desk)-- SPhilbrick  T  21:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Bicycle Evolution-en on Wikimedia Commons
Hi Keith,

This is just to let you know that I left a response to your post on the bicycle evolution graphic. I'm not trying to be a stick-in-the mud here, but I am hoping the graphic could be expanded to show the primary evolutionary paths of bicycle design worldwide, not just the main evolutionary branches seen in the USA. I promise to be cooperative. Cheers, Ebikeguy (talk) 16:06, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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Risks to human civilisation...
You removed an edit i made, (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Risks_to_civilization%2C_humans%2C_and_planet_Earth&diff=480759041&oldid=479757205 ) so i thought i'd ask why.

Your explaination was 'removing unhelpful cn tag'... however, i'm pretty sure there is no proof anywhere that 'Humankind has never been destroyed before' - 'The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material.'; can you infact prove that Humankind has never beed destroyed before??

If so i would love to see evidence.

Perhaps this sentence should be corrected to: 'We have no evidence of Humankind ever being destroyed' Which would at least be factually correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.61.82.80 (talk) 17:31, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The statement, "Humankind has never been destroyed before" is self-evident, because if humankind had be previously destroyed, it would no longer exist. Therefore, there is no reason for your CN tag.  Ebikeguy (talk) 19:14, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi 176.61.82.80 -- if that is your real name. ;-)
 * Sorry if my edit summary seemed gruff or terse or something. I try to use the edit summary as a method for letting people know if they'd be interested in the edit I made, not as a form of discussion.
 * My reasoning for taking out the citation was indeed that of Ebikeguy above. Additionally I do not believe that it is tenable for me to prove the negative.  --Keithonearth (talk) 01:01, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Bulgakov citation needed
hello,

could you explain this edit? The reference is at the end, so why you put a "cn" tag? Regards.-- GoP T C N 08:27, 7 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for asking. It seems to have been caused by confusion on my part about what the reference was citing, however looking more into it there does seem to still be issues with the reference.  I'll discuss it on the article's talk page.  --Keithonearth (talk) 16:18, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Soma Photos?
Hiya Keithonearth,

I'd love to see photos of your Soma Doublecross in touring garb. Got any posted anywhere? Thanks, Ebikeguy (talk) 02:44, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * As a matter of fact I do have one [here] . (It's on a little blogish thing that I started, but never really did anything with)  I've since put a mountain bike triple on the bike, instead of the road triple I have on it in that picture, a big improvement.  Other than that, and that I don't normally ride it around town with that amount of stuff it's pretty much the same.  Thanks for asking, I always like showing off my particular taste in bikes.  --Keithonearth (talk) 02:29, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That's a beauty! Nothing like a well-worn Brooks saddle to tell the world you love your bike!  How fat are those tires?  Cheers,  Ebikeguy (talk) 03:11, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I had 700x37c on for that trip, and they fit, but had some problems with build up of mud or ice on the inside of the fenders, and it rubbing. On a couple days it got so bad that the wheels seized up, and I had to spend time cleaning it up so I could keep riding.  I'm sticking with 700x32 these days. --Keithonearth (talk) 03:20, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * They looked chubby! I'm thinking of getting a touring rig, from Capricorn or Rivendell, build up for some seriously fat 700C wheels.  I can fit 34mm tires on one of my bikes at this point, but that's about as fat as I can go.  I love the look, and the ride.  Still, 32mm tires do roll a bit more easily.  Thanks for the info!  Cheers!  Ebikeguy (talk) 03:24, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Bicycle Shaped Object for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bicycle Shaped Object is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Bicycle Shaped Object (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. -AndrewDressel (talk) 20:32, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Your Tibet maps
Hello Keithonearth. A request was posted to the Map Workshop regarding an error in the administrative boundaries of your Tibet maps that might need fixing. Can you please have a look at it? You'll find it here. Cheers! -- Orionist  ★  talk  02:14, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, I'll look at it over there. --Keithonearth (talk) 02:58, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello again. You have a new reply at Map Workshop. Cheers! -- Orionist  ★  talk  00:37, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! --Keithonearth (talk) 05:27, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Your graphics skills
Hello! Following the map request above I noticed that you have some excellent graphic skills. The bicycle diagrams you've done are impressive. Why don't you - if and when you have some spare time - drop by the Graphics Lab (we also have a Photography workshop and an Illustration workshop), have a look at the requests and see if there's something you'd like to work on. It's a fun project and a fun way to contribute, and usually the resulting images will have a great impact on articles, which are always in need of quality images like the ones you've done. Cheers! -- Orionist  ★  talk  09:44, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your kind words. At present I am pretty busy, so don't expect to be able to get much done in terms of graphic work.  I also have a couple of little bike related images that I'd like to work on as it is, so I'll not looking for new tasks on the Graphics lab right now, but maybe in the future I'll have more time and be looking for ideas.  Thanks! --Keithonearth (talk) 15:59, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Whenever you feel like it. You'll be welcome anytime. Good luck with your study/work/life. Cheers! -- Orionist  ★  talk  01:14, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Rickshaws outside Asia


A tag has been placed on Rickshaws outside Asia requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to an article talk page, image description page, image talk page, mediawiki page, mediawiki talk page, category talk page, portal talk page, template talk page, help talk, user page, or user talk page from the article space.

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 * Hi Keith, I saw that you were the user with a real username with the most edits and thought I'd let you know:
 * I moved/renamed "Rickshaws outside Asia" --> "Rickshaws in the United States, because the article mainly dealt with US
 * The little bit of info about Europe, Canada and summary US info was moved to the "new" Rickshaw - it was a disamb page tagged to be made into an article, which I'm doing.
 * Therefore because of these changes - and the continent / country specific info in Pulled rickshaw, Cycle rickshaw and Auto rickshaw, the Rickshaw outside Asia does not seem to be needed. (Although some country sections could be "beefed up".-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 01:46, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

wikiproject Tibet
Hi Keithonearth. I'm guessing that the reason that you didn't get any feedback from your post on the Wikiproject Tibet page is that you posted on the project page, and not the talk page, where discussions are supposed to occur. You might try moving your post to the talk page if you are still looking for feedback, and you might consider moving it there anyway, as that's where it probably belongs. Regards.--Wikimedes (talk) 18:47, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks Wikimedes, I'll do that. --Keithonearth (talk) 18:51, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

September 2013
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 * subsidiary Greyhound Express brand, the company also operates or co-operates BoltBus cite news
 * Thanks BracketBot! --Keithonearth (talk) 19:39, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Flying Pigeon logo
Hi. I saw File:Flying Pigeon headbadge.JPG, which you uploaded, in the Flying Pigeon article. I've seen this logo elsewhere -- as I remember as one of a number of FP logos pictured on some webpage -- and I wondered about it looking more like Fg than Fp at that time. As it happens, a friend of mine just started importing FP bicycles to the Philippines, so I photographed the logo on one of those and uploaded it as File:Flying pigeon logo 2013.jpg. I haven't linked that image anywhere, but it probably ought to go in the FP article. Perhaps you know something abut the differences between the logos and could provide info on that (?). Cheers, Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:53, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that I don't know more than that article says, that the Chinese name for Flying Pidgon is FēiGē (飞鸽), so I'd assume that's where the "FG" comes from.--Keithonearth (talk) 19:43, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Naming no names
I can think of a good reason for certain deletions and an AfD. Someone high up has ordered 'their pages' to be 'updated'. And the task has landed on someone lower down to be sorted... Peridon (talk) 12:36, 5 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, I suspect biased editing, paid editing, or something similar. I don't think this is their first Wikipedia account.  If anything I'm surprised I've not come across this sort of issue more often.  I don't think the case is clear cut enough to take action, although I expect you have more experience with this sort of thing than me.  Is it a wait and see situation? --Keithonearth (talk) 20:00, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, at present it looks like it's heading for a snow Keep unless someone proves that it really isn't notable. I'm not in a fit state at the moment (grounded today and on antibiotics and with a throat like this I shouldn't have had satay chicken for tea...) to assess it clearly. I'm just doing the easy ones. I put that comment up to make sure that people were aware of the 'official' position on defunct and/or eaten entities. Most of the AfD crowd would know, but there might be socks once they work things out. I did make it plain that continued use of that non-speedy reason could lead to trouble, and reckoned getting it to AfD would give a consensus. I wasn't expecting a snowfall within 24 hours... Peridon (talk) 20:57, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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File:Qamdo map.svg
What is the source of it?--Antemister (talk) 13:57, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:I like APL graphic.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:I like APL graphic.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 07:44, 31 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know about that image, ShakespeareFan00. It had been removed from the article I'd uploaded it for, and it seems to have been done so with little reason. I've added it back to the article, and hopefully it'll stay there. I've erred on the side of caution when I classified it as non-free. The photo I have was taken by my dad in the '70s, of some sort of printed promotional material. My dad is happy to let the image be licensed freely, but we have no idea about the licensing of printed copy he took the photo of. It seems likely that no one thought about how to licence the image at the time, and no licensing info is visible on the printed copy. Do you think that I've been correct to specify it as non-free? --Keithonearth (talk) 17:51, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of File:I like APL graphic.jpg


The file File:I like APL graphic.jpg has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "WP:DECORATIVE use in APL (programming language) which fails WP:NFCC. Claiming that this 'illustrates promotion material' implies purely decortive use since there's no sourced critical commentary anywhere in th article about the images itself or the advertising/promotion campaign it was use in so the crontect required by NFCC#8 for non-free use is not provided. The image might be a nice image per se, but non-free images need to be contextually tied into relevant article content to justify their use. So, unless this can be somehow converted to public domain or a free license, or sourced critical commentary about the image itself or the particular campaign it was used in is added to the article, this is not going to be acceptable non-free use. Finally, licensing this as makes no sense at all."

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Tibet maps @commons
So you've been busy not only on osm but on wikipedia and commons too! ;) The Tibet maps are nice done! Geetings from --katpatuka (talk) 10:48, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi Katpatuka! Nice to see you here! I have been active here, and continue to contribute, but these days I mostly work on OSM. --Keithonearth (talk) 06:48, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

September 2019
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Jammu and Kashmir; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.''
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

see and follow WP:BRD, you are making a bold edit and the onus is on you to start and make a case for your change first per WP:CONSENSUS  D Big X ray ᗙ '' 05:07, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

DS Notice
-- D Big X ray ᗙ  05:08, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the message on talk page. I'm not sure how you got Afghanistan in the mix, maybe I fixed a typo on an Afghanistan related article at one point? Or maybe it's just bundled in the mix, despite not editing in the area.


 * More relevantly, while I do take an interest in the area, there are many areas I find more engaging and have done far more editing on. I don't really think putting an note on my talk page pointing out that I have taken an interest in the area, w/o mentioning other areas I take an interest in, is entirely appropriate. But I guess it's better than not saying anything. --Keithonearth (talk) 05:58, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * This has been posted as you are currently having a dispute on J&K an article covered by above discretionary sanctions. It has been posted as an evidence (log/WP:DIFF) that you have been made aware of these sanctions, and you cannot claim unawareness in case a DS case is initiated against you. It is a standard template to let the editors editing in the topic area know about it. And the expectations is that they behave and strictly follow Wikipedia policies when Editing ( or having a dispute) in the topic area.-- D Big X ray ᗙ  06:13, 26 September 2019 (UTC) Updated on 07:11, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


 * DBigXray, as you are aware you have reverted me more times than I have reverted you. I expect a citation for your claim, or for you to remove the assertion. --Keithonearth (talk) 06:41, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You were edit warring, instead of discussing. Obviously when I have to repeatedly revert your edit, I am being a part of the edit war. You were expected to start a thread the first time you were reverted, but instead of discussing you choose to revert again, disregarding WP:BRD. Please follow WP:DR and join the talk page. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  07:11, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

New message from DBigXray
 D Big X ray ᗙ  06:07, 26 September 2019 (UTC)