User talk:Kf21

Re: Access-eGov
Hi Prolog. I've noticed that you've removed the article Access-eGov again. The main reason (seems to me) was that "it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia". However, the article was properly categorized into the Category:European Commission projects, Category:FP6_Projects, etc. It is a regular description of the Access-eGov FP6 IST EU project - so it is not an advert or press release or similar.

In addition, Wikipedia encourages authors to publish the description of FP5, FP6, and FP7 projects - see e.g. projects as DAIDALOS, SEKT, SUPER, and many others. On the Category:FP7 Projects, see also the external link How to describe your research projects on Wikipedia containing the instructions what should be written there.

In the Access-eGov article, I've tried to follow these instructions, as well as general Wikipedia rules for publishing articles. It may be that some parts of the article can be considered as advert or so - then I am ready to re-formulate corresponding text fragments. However, I don't think there is a reason to remove the whole article as being "out of the scope of Wikipedia" - or, if it really is, please indicate this also on the FP5, FP6, FP7, and other related pages (including other already published EU projects).

Finally, just a remark: Of course, there exists much more EU projects, finished or running, than they are listed in Wikipedia nowadays. Maybe removal of their Wikipedia pages (for considering them as adverts or so) is the reason why there are only few projects presented on Wikipedia currently - of course, this approach is quite discouraging and demotivating for authors. --Kf21 (talk) 15:31, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Research projects are not out of Wikipedia's scope, but what the tutorial doesn't mention is that a topic has to be meet Wikipedia's criteria for verifiability and notability in order for the article to stay here. You need to prove that the subject of the article is notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia by finding significant coverage about it in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Also, the article still has content taken from accessegov.org at least in the "project objectives" section. This text is copyrighted and can not be used on Wikipedia. Prolog (talk) 10:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your comments, I've tried to make some updates, please check. Reliable sources - I've added some references, but I am not sure if they are "reliable enough". Of course, most of the references describing the Access-eGov are written by the people involved in the project; however, I think these references can be considered as reliable if the publishers of the papers are known and widely accepted (as e.g. Springer, Trauner Verlag, ICT Results, etc.).
 * I've added the "objectives and solutions" section, describing the issues solved within the project. I know that "less is sometimes more", and maybe this section (and the "motivation" section, too) can be considered as redundant. (??) But note the guide How to describe your research projects on Wikipedia (link is published at Category:FP7_Projects) - there is recommended something like this. --Kf21 (talk) 19:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Was this article created by someone outside the project? Is it really coincidence that the Access-eGov website contains a page that draws attention to the Wikipedia article? If the answer to these questions is "no", wouldn't there be a conflict of interest? --ChristopheS (talk) 18:41, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * This article was initially created be the people involved in the project (and then, of course, slightly modified by other Wikipedia editors). The content was produced collaboratively by most of the project partners, was agreed and then was published by me - Kf21. I personally was involved in the project on behalf of the InterSoft, a.s., project partner. I am also administering the Access-eGov website, so it was again me who added there the reference to the Wikipedia article (which was also agreed by the project consortium). I hope in this case it is no conflict of interest...?

Access-eGov - deletion
The article Access-eGov has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article seemed to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.


 * Also, the article was written like an advert or a press release (see WP:NOT and WP:5P), and contained chunks of text taken from another website (see WP:C). Prolog (talk) 13:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Europe 10,000 Challenge invite
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