User talk:Kirkman

Source on Unreleased Songs
Hey, Josh. Hope you're doing fine. If you can post a source for the info you added about the "unreleased songs" of Petra, you can post it. I've been working on the article for a while now, so any help with it is more than welcome. Thief12 22:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. I'll check those sources and post the appropriate links. Perhaps tomorrow. BTW, since I assume you have way more knowledge of Petra than I do, feel free to check any stuff that might be written in the article that could be incorrect. One of the parts I'd like to work with more is the Members list. I'm sure there are some missing, and some that might be cut from the list (for example, someone added Greg Ruup and he was just a touring musician, stuff like that) so if you have any info about Mike Brandenstein, the blond drummer that played during the first J&H shows (Johnson? or something), Steve McElyea, or any other obscure band member... from the late 70s, early 80s, please share. Thanks. Thief12 04:35, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Christian music
Hi Josh. I thought Thief was you, seeing that he started the Petra article, however, he kindly pointed out that you exist here. :) Anyways, I've just started the Christian music portal and was wondering two things: That'll be all for now, I guess. Do reply when you have the time. Thanks and happy Wiki-ing!!! a JC freak   y A k  11:27, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Firstly, if you could upload some good-quality photos of Petra onto Wikipedia. We require completely-free images to be shown for the Selected Picture section of the portal. I'm quite unable to find completely-free images and your name popped into my head. :)
 * Second, since you've a vast knowledge of Christian music (Petra included), was wondering whether you could help us out with the portal. Any ideas/suggestions/comments/expansion of articles within the portal's scope and reach would be much appreciated, believe me.

Petra picture
Hey, Josh. Hope all is well with you. Just wondering if you could work out the uploading of any pic you have of Petra for the article. We're looking forward to getting the article to GA status, and possibly FA, but with a copyrighted pic in the infobox, that won't be able. If you have any pic of yours you'd like to contribute, feel free to upload it. Thanks. Thief12 02:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Same request as above... was beaten to it. :) a JC freak   y A k  17:24, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject St. Louis
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Re: Petra (band)
Hello again, Josh. I've started a discussion at Talk:Petra (band) to gain consensus on whether the band should be referred to as it or they. I know that you previously voted for the band to be called it with the plural form being used to refer to the band members. I felt that there could be a lot of trouble and confusion (as the article itself is contradictory) and hence, restarted the discussion looking for consensus. Please do join in, if you have the time. a JC freak  y A k  22:22, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

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Ferguson Public Library
Hey Josh, This is Ben Swofford I used to work with Yoli at the library, and at the UM-St. Louis newspaper. When I notice it was you that made some edits to the Ferguson library page that I created (I am Brps311) I had to stop by and say HI. Great catch on inserting "Municipal" do not know how I missed that. Since you probably know this stuff better than I do, is there some way to change the page name once created, it still comes up without the Municipal, even though you made that edit. (Change got made, thanks!) I had to create that page for a Masters in Library Science class I am taking on Internet Research. Part of the Wikipedia week assignment. Gotta say it is kinda addicting once you start realizing the power you have to create the truth. Hope you and the family are great, see you on Facebook! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.158.60.205 (talk) 22:22, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Ben, good to hear from you. Someone else has fixed the problem of the page title, so no worries there.

Wikipedia is pretty cool overall, but the politics of it bothers me sometimes. The notion that people and things must be "notable" in order to be included in the self-purported "sum of all human knowledge" really, really bugs me.

Kirkman (talk) 04:28, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

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Yeah, this is all pretty stupid. I already had some of that information on the image. However, to appease the ridiculous Wikipedia bureaucracy, I have added the boilerplate rationale. Kirkman (talk) 00:08, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Space Empire Elite


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Proposed deletion of Space Dynasty


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Proposed deletion of Solar Realms Elite


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BBS door games
Since BBS door games as a topic is notable, though the games individually lack notability, do you think it would make sense to move the popular BBS door games into a section within BBS door?  czar  &middot;   &middot;  06:33, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I couldn't disagree more. They are an important part of technology history, involving some significant figures like Jon Radoff. I'd like to improve the articles but have been pressed for time recently. What I can say is that this field is under-researched right now. When you see all the research coming out now about the history of video games ("Racing the Beam," etc), it is only a matter of a time before similar articles and books will be available on door games. Deleting these articles would be premature and wrong. Kirkman (talk) 05:15, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I have a personal interest in retrogaming, and I understand your POV, but I approached you about your view on combining these articles into a single door games article (notable as a group/genre/era) because otherwise they will eventually be lost for their individual non-notability. Do you have any thoughts on that?  czar  &middot;   &middot;  06:11, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I fundamentally disagree with your premise. Games like Space Empire Elite, SRE, and BRE pioneered strategy games concepts and were precursors to MMOGs. They deserve their own articles and are notable. Kirkman (talk) 18:20, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * If they are notable, can you produce non-self-published (independent) sources? Your book reference on SRE looks like the right direction, but almost all of the other references come from self-published sources (not credible for Wikipedia's purposes).  czar  &middot;   &middot;  18:32, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

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