User talk:Kudpung/Archive Apr 2010

Related to the sticky prod talk
Thanks for your notes and support. At this point, I think any de-adminning of SlimVirgin is unlikely and maybe overkill (as far as I know, she hasn't misused the tools). But other action might be appropriate. Maurreen (talk) 07:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Point taken. However, certainly one should be able to expect sysops to be a role model.--Kudpung (talk) 09:14, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Just a question
Hi ,Kudpung; I was just hoping you could (when you have a second) could look here Wikipedia talk:Proposed deletion of biographies of living people, in( 53.1 Proposal 1 )my statement about "Auto-Editing" or "Huggle", have you heard any discussion of this. Just for my curiosity, No rush, Thanks  Mlpearc  MESSAGE  17:50, 4 April 2010 (UTC)


 * It has been generally  assumed that  Twinkle will automaticaly notify  the creator/major contributor that  their article has been sticky  prodded. Some people are now suggesting that  the creators/major editors should not  be notified. However, IMO, that  would defeat  the entire purpose of creating  this sticky  prod. The RfC actually  discussed the notification feature as taken for granted. The current  problem is that the Twinkle programmers seem to  have gone on vacation.--Kudpung (talk) 12:20, 5 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your response. As I was reading your message it accrued to me that there was talk about a bot doing a lot of the notifying, I was just curious since I have recently been using Huggle (which I'm finding to removed and impersonal, makes me feel more like a bot than an Editor). I am surprised that notification was even being questioned anyway. SV told me about the the fact that the editor asking for undeletion would have to come armed with the required source. Again thanks for your time and response, I will see you around :)  Mlpearc  MESSAGE  16:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Canvassing
I'm not sure whether you were being rhetorical, but there is Canvassing. Also, thank you for the e-mail! Maurreen (talk) 05:41, 5 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, I know the guideline Canvassing quite well because I do a lot  of canvassing (mainly  as the micromanager of a Wikipedia project), and do  not  under any  circumstances wish to  leave myself open to being  accused of doing something  untoward. I have been unable to  find anything  inappropriate in the canvassing  you  did recently, unless of course you had been selective in  your choice of addressees, which of course I  did not  scrutinize. I'll just  repeat again  that  I feel you  have come in for an unfair amount  of flak in  this sticky  BLP  process, and it  seems to  be always from  the same quarter(s).--Kudpung (talk) 08:58, 5 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I figured you probably did know about Canvassing.
 * I do appreciate your support.
 * Next time -- if there is a next time -- maybe I'll let someone else be the messenger.
 * Maybe sometime I'll be able to help you. Maurreen (talk) 07:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Your note
I've replied to your latest post, but I'd appreciate it if you could stop posting on my talk page. You and Maurreen have posted there 32 times since March 17. I understand your points, but it's a bit much, and it's probably best at this point to agree to disagree. Many thanks, SlimVirgin  talk  contribs 02:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)


 * There is no harm in disagreement  if it's kept  in a friendly  and encouraging  tone. However, if you  have been able to  understand the general message that  is being  conveyed by  us and one or two other editors, that's the main point, and we hope that  communicating  and collaborating with you  will be easier. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 08:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Help
I am writing this message to two editors, I will post it at both editors talk page. I know the subject matter is or may not be your interest but it doesn't have to be for you to help me. Both of you I trust and you do have the experience to help me out. First ( This is my first proposal ), first question Here is the proposal, is the format OK or Correct. Second how would I notify / advertise to the interested community ? If it's not to much could you reply on my talk. Thank you  Mlpearc   MESSAGE  02:19, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Mlpearc; i'm looking into  your links right  now. On first  view, it  does not  seem that  your intention  would need a debate, but  I'll let  you  have more details later today.--Kudpung (talk) 08:41, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you Sir, I'll be in the background Thanx  Mlpearc  MESSAGE  15:20, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * One thought, after going through This and thru This has got me wanting to be ready for "anything" and again thank you very much for your time and input.  Mlpearc  MESSAGE  15:30, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Herefordshire
Fantastic. Thanks for joining the project. Any help you can give will be much appreciated. I've still got a few more pages to create, but will try to get these done in the next day or so. Cheers TheRetroGuy (talk) 11:12, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

New Flight Time re-write

 * Current working re-write and proposed section "to be" inserted can be seen Here  Mlpearc  MESSAGE  22:57, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey my Friend
You left me a message Here, and as far as I remember I don't have anything to do with this one, I looked at the page history and don't see me anywhere. If I'm missing something please come and strighten me out. The only thing I have been doing lately is the '''Flight Time Proposal. I did notice that this editor User:Patchy1 does have a lot of AfD "doing's" at that page. Again if I'm missing something come stright over and slap me around "you have my number" and show me. Thanks my friend  Mlpearc  MESSAGE  15:39, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I should have left a fairly  long message describing the edits I  had done for you  to  the Flight Time insertion. Looks like a misconnection  did not actually  post  the message. Do  have a look  though, because I  think  it's ready  for inserting  now, see User:Mlpearc/Sandbox 3.0 The other message concerned the exchange between yourself and Nebiepedian. Maybe I  got  my  wires crossed -  applogies if I  did, it  can happen ;) --Kudpung (talk) 22:19, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey, yeah at first I didn't know what happend at "Flight Time", then I traced it to your edits, and to be honest I did not like it. but I keept looking at it and at first I was thinking it looked a little better with the links, then I remembered I had a discussion with I think, Looper? about the fact I did not think it was proper to have links anywhere in a Citation, I was working on the 3rd Recon's Medal of Honor's pages like Here I formated, added the thumb, and signatures to the citations for all four recipients (alittle bragging, I do think they look good !(P.S. I also did the Awards sections just above thier Citations)). But no worries my friend I think you did a great job, I think it's Exactly the way it should be, and I like it. As far as Nebiepedian if he has issues with me he also has my number. Question: you say you think Flight Time is ready insertion, I was wondering how long to keep the discussion open, now I want to "error" on the side of too much on this because I want this discussion to be just a tad above "proper". let me know what ya think, later my friend  Mlpearc   MESSAGE  23:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I think you should insert it  now. Changes or additions like these do not usually attract much comment  when offered for debate and I  personally  can't see how it  can be further improved, except maybe for adding  the page and paragraph  numbers to the link to  the declassified secret  army  document - it's very  long and I  was unable to locate the actual mention of the Flight Time report. The thing to do now  is WP:BOLD, insert your addition  to  the main article, and wait and see if anyone does any  new edits to  it. It  won't be deleted or anything  drastic because I've improved the references. I removed all the Wikilinks because a blockquote must  be clean and true to the original, besides which, there is generally no  need to  link  common nouns at  all (See: WP:OVERLINK) and the rest  of the information  is obvious.
 * The message about Newbiepedian was that  there is no need to  PROD, AfD, or CSD articles about  human settlements -  they are always defacto  notable, whether they  have any references or not. However, they  should of course be real places that  figure on  official maps, and not  just the location  of a windpump  on someone's farm :)  For an example of a good, complete settlement stub, see Callow End. Let  me know if you  need any  more help.--Kudpung (talk) 06:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok it's going in and the discussion will remain open if anybody has something to say.  Mlpearc   MESSAGE  15:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Fine. Good luck. You can always delete the debate and test  pages per WP:U1 if you  don't  want  them any more, because they  are in  your own user space.--Kudpung (talk) 15:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I think I'm just going to let the water settle for a while and sit back and see what happens, all that is just house keeping now, and a very sincere Thank you  Mlpearc  MESSAGE  15:58, 20 April 2010 (UTC) P.S. please don't close the discussion, I will do that after a few days, I still want a place for anybody to vent or whatever. Thanks  Mlpearc   MESSAGE  16:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't worry. That debate and test  page were in your own user space and does not  need a formal consensus and/or closure. Also, it is not polite to  interfere too  much  with  people's user space except  in  very serious cases of spam, vandalism, or personal attacks.--Kudpung (talk) 16:16, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I ment no Offence, I hope none was taken  Mlpearc  MESSAGE  16:22, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Of course not, no offence taken whatsoever - It's been a pleasure collaborating  with  you  on this :) Don't  hesitate to yell out if you  need more opinions on anything  anytime. Take care, Kudpung (talk) 16:27, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Wellingborough GA?
Yes I think its in great shape but there are 4 minor points that may need to be addressed on the list. Do you think that points are important enough not for it to succeed the GA rating? Likelife (talk) 15:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Check them out -  they  are things you  are more familiar with  than  I  am. Decide if they  are really  important  and if you  still  can't  find RS for them, just  edit  them out, or take the risk  and leave them  in.  It's not the length that  makes a GA. However,  reviewers always like to  find something, because they  often like to take some of the credit  for the GA., so we don't  want  it  too  perfect ;) --Kudpung (talk) 16:00, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Copyedit Backlog Elimination Drive
Hi, as a member of the Guild of Copy Editors you're hereby notified of and invited to participate in the WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/May 2010. Please help us eliminate the 8,000+ copyedit backlog! Participating editors will receive barnstars and other awards, according to their level of participation. ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 00:10, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Blurpeace RfA
That neutral was quite eloquently worded. Keegan (talk) 07:25, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I'm 28, American, with a BA in history. It's been on my userpage at various points, but I'm liking my current style :)  And yes, my name is Keegan.  Keegan (talk) 07:26, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, but you're already a sysop, so you've already run the gauntlet and that's fine by me ;)