User talk:Kudpung/Archive Feb 2013

File mover rights
Dear Bro,

How are you doing today, well I just request for File Mover right would you be kind enough to have a look on it and grant me the permission, that would be helpful for me in some of my created pages and serve our beloved wiki more better. Thanks.-- Faizan Munawar Varyachat contributions 10:50, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

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Arctic  Kangaroo  04:09, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

TParis
G'day Kudpung. TParis has you listed as an editor from whom he will accept a nudge that he might not be acting as an admin in the right way. I have been involved with him in a conflict for the past couple of weeks that he is prosecuting way too personally. The latest incident is particularly disappointing as it was essentially an attempt by him to restart the conflict after it had fallen into a lull (diff), and an attempt by two other editors on either side of the divide to approach a resolution (see Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Epeefleche until TParis' attempt to close down the discussion, which was shortly followed by the diff above).

At the moment, I'd like to ask that you talk with TParis about the above diff, which was a clear attempt to restart the drama machine and probably WP:BAITING, and ask for him to back off. If he does not, then I'll leave it to your consideration as to whether this is now grounds for recall, but, personally, I have a high expectations of behaviour for admins, and, on top of everything else, WP:BAITING is a clear breach of that.

In terms of TParis' criteria:
 * 1) I have previously discussed the issue with him at his talkpage at User_talk:TParis/Archive_9 and User_talk:TParis/Archive_9.
 * 2) The issues at hand have been extensively discussed at ANI, where TParis proposed a onesided interaction ban, which I view essentially as an attempt to silence me.
 * 3) There has been time to cool down since the issue started, but TParis can not let go.
 * 4) In terms of actions as an administrator, TParis closed my initial complaint against ANI with poor wording, that has been discussed at User_talk:TParis/Archive_9, where I repeatedly reject what I read as a suggestion that I follow Epeefleche around and fix his problems. I have since had to keep repeatedly saying that I'm not interesting in doing that at, for example, Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Epeefleche. The ANI made by TParis at ANI was also made from an administrative perspective.
 * 5) The key policy issue here is WP:CIVIL.

As I said, I'm leaving any decisions about whether TParis' behaviour is not what is expected of an admin in your hands. However, I would ask that you suggest that he consider stopping.

I am also posting this message to the other admins on TParis' recall list. Also, I am scaling back my involvement with wikipedia, so I might not see replies very quickly. If you have something you want me to respond to, I'd like to ask that you e-mail me at "daniel.judd@gmail.com". Cheers. &tilde;danjel [ talk &#124; contribs ] 14:46, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Fixed your talk post
See. You need template:tl to include tempaltes on talk pages. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:07, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know. Sorry, my  lapsus. Thanks for fixing. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:45, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Starship9000
Hi. I'm wondering if you've been keeping an eye on this editor. He appears to be doing a bunch of stuff that fall outside of the informal "ban" you placed on him, including tagging articles for deletion, hunting for sockpuppets, and making edit with his IP address of a nature that at least one editor called them "vandalism". I think that this is just a kid, but it's taking continual advice from numerous editors just to try to keep him on the straight and narrow. If you haven't been keeping up with him, it might be worth a look. (I'm not looking for a block, just another nudge.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:21, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I did not nominate any pages for deletion. --Starship9000 (talk) 22:08, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Than what are these about on your IP page? Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:15, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * My IP Address keeps tagging article for creation pages for deletion. Remember how I told you that I will not use my IP Address? --Starship9000 (talk) 13:56, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * An "IP address" can't do anything by itself. Are you saying that you didn't do that, that your IP is used by other people as well?   And you said you wouldn't use the IP after those pages were tagged. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:12, 4 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I did not do that BMK!  --Starship9000 (talk) 01:10, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


 * See my  comments on  Starship's talk  page. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:54, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi: I noticed that the two related pages tagged for deletion by the IP were both drafts created by Starship himself. That may be a relevant fact, so I thought I should point it out in case it had been overlooked. Yngvadottir (talk) 06:24, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, friend
I have written a proposed remedy to the Richard Arthur Norton affair, to be taken to AN/I in the event that ArbCom defers the case. Since the original thread is hatted, the proposal has been made on his talk page (User_talk:Richard_Arthur_Norton_(1958-_)). As you were a participant in the original thread, I would very much appreciate your comments as to whether the proposed remedy satisfies your concerns. Thanks, —Tim /// Carrite (talk) 23:26, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I've seen the discussion on  his talk  page. If you  give me a link to  the original  thread or my  comment  there that  you  refer to, I  will  take a look  at  it. I'm sorry, but  I  just  don't  have time at  the moment  to  hunt around for it. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

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IP block
Hey Kudpung, I just saw the block at User talk:74.131.177.233. Starship, however, is still editing, presumably because (bear with me--I'm a luddite) you didn't check the "Prevent logged-n users..." box. Did you do that on purpose so that no IP "accidents" could happen? I'm beginning to think that Starship should just be blocked indefinitely... Drmies (talk) 17:28, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

I dont want to be blocked indefinitely so should I do adopt me instead? --Starship9000 (talk) 22:56, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Grindstone Elementary
Per the AfD, it was decided to "merge" the information into Berea City School District. I'm not very experienced with these procedures, but it doesn't appear that the orphaned content in the former article was ever merged, and the new redirect points to Berea, Ohio instead of the school district. I can do the work and fix this, but I wanted to check with you first to see if this was intentional. Thanks! --GoneIn60 (talk) 17:49, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 * You are welcome to 'merge' and change the redirect  to  whichever target  article you  feel is most  appropriate. For US schools this is usually  to  the school  district  article, otherwise we redirect  to  the education section of the article about  the school's locality. When we say  'merge' for such  non  notable schools, all  that  is generally  required is a mention  on  a list, because they  have nothing  specifically  notable to  report. School redirects must  include the  template. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:04, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

adopt me
Should I do adopt me that way I can understand better? I do not want to be blocked and I am sorry. Please don't block me! Should I do adopt me that way I should understand better? --Starship9000 (talk) 22:55, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Please discuss the adoption programme details with the editor who offered to adopt you. However, adoption will not help  you  understand the conditions of you  remaining  unblocked -  we have made those conditions very  clear to  you several  times already. Good luck  with  your adoption, and let  me know how you  get  on. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:58, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

empty article
The empty article, 2013 Women's Qualification Tournament, should be nominated for speedy deletion. Thanks! --Starship9000 (talk) 00:51, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Starship, the article was blanked by its creator if you check the history, so perhaps the author would like it to be deleted; it would be under G7 for author request, and possibly other criteria if it suits the initial version. TBrandley (what's up) 01:59, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Starship, weren't you told by Kudpung to stop patrolling pages, at risk of being blocked? Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:22, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Besides the conditions, anything else for staying unblocked? --Starship9000 (talk) 16:45, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

should I move my draft article to the mainspace?
Hello, if the draft article about the Tornado roller coaster is ready, then should I move it to the mainspace? The draft article is ready for the mainspace so should I move it? --Starship9000 (talk) 20:15, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I've had a look at  the article and it seems OK  to  me. If  you   know how to  do  it, you  can move it  to  mainspace. If you  are not  100% sure, ask me to  do  it for you. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:00, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I know how and I am getting ready to do that. Thank you! --Starship9000 (talk) 02:26, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

2 articles needing to be proposed for deletion
Hello! There is 2 more article needing to be proposed for deletion. First one is Cih Ji Palace and the concern you should write down is:
 * Unintilligable and Unsourced

And the last article Roller Skater (roller coaster) should be proposed for deletion as well and the concern about it is:
 * Non-notable junior roller coaster. Non-notable Kentucky Kingdom roller coaster. 

Do you think you can propose these 2 articles for deletion with the concerns (as above) because I do not think they are notable enough? Thank you! --Starship9000 (talk) 19:56, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Please stop now patrolling pages and telling other users how to tag them - your PPROD reasons are wrong anyway. Please simply concentrate on expanding or improving articles and get organsised very soon with the user who offered to adopt you. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:06, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I would say that too to improve articles. --Starship9000 (talk) 21:43, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I forgot to ask you that am I allowed to create categories? --Starship9000 (talk) 21:45, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Starship, do you want to be adopted or not? Go  Phightins  !  21:50, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I would that way I could understand wikipedia better. And I actually asked Kudpung a question if I am allowed to create categories. I need a answer from Kudpung about creating categories except maintenance category. --Starship9000 (talk) 22:10, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Starship9000 Adoption
I am willing to take on User:Starship9000 on as an adoptee under the following terms:
 * During the course of the adoption, without my express permission, Starship is not to do any of the following:
 * New page patrolling
 * Article creation
 * Category creation
 * Participating in the deletion process
 * Propose any article for GA or FA
 * Add or remove any tags
 * Use any form of automation (e.g., Twinkle)
 * During the course of adoption, the only pages Starship9000 is to edit are:
 * his talk page
 * my talk page
 * Kudpung's talk page
 * the adoption page
 * the adoption talk page
 * SkyScreamer – but not to propose it for GA status
 * any other changes to articles, but only in article space
 * Starship9000 will receive a barnstar after he successfully completes the first test and the final exam.
 * Starship must receive an 80% or higher on all tests in order to advance to the next lesson.
 * All grades will be determined using the subjective opinion of User:Go Phightins! using the following criteria:
 * A 5/5 demonstrates a thorough knowledge and understanding of the topic in question beyond a reiteration of the definition and provides a specific "real-wiki" example.
 * For the question "What is vandalism?", a 5/5 would look something like this: "Vandalism is any bad-faith edit intended to harm the encyclopedia. For example, changing Chris Christie's weight to 5,000 pounds is vandalism."
 * A 4/5 demonstrates a general knowledge of the topic and may include material directly copied from a policy/guideline/essay or not include an example.
 * For the aforementioned question, a 4/5 would look something like this: "Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. An example would be crude humor."
 * A 3/5 is a simple reiteration of policy, or a partially correct response.
 * "Vandalism is anything that harms Wikipedia"
 * A 2/5 is an answer that is wrong in multiple respects.
 * A 1/5 is an answer that would equate to an Ad Hominem attack were this a DR discussion. In other words, "This question is stupid"
 * If the adoptee disagrees with a grade, he is to first explain why to his mentor. Go Phightins! will then review the answer and explain his reasoning. If Starship9000 still disagrees, he may contact any other user on the List of Adopters or any administrator with whom he's previously interacted on his talk page to review the answer.
 * Should Starship9000 not complete a test with a passing grade, he is to review the material in the lesson, and let Go Phightins! know if he has any questions prior to requesting a new test, which Go Phightins! will generate.
 * During the course of adoption, Starship9000 agrees to log in prior to editing.
 * Should Starship9000 decide to leave adoption at any point, he should contact a new adopter prior to resuming normal editing.
 * Should Starship9000 resume editing without notifying his adopter and abandon adoption without seeking to enroll in a new course, Kudpung (or any other administrator) will use his discretion in determining an appropriate course of action.


 * Starship9000, please review my proposed terms and, if you agree to them, please notify me on my talk page. If you would like to propose modifications, please do so on this page.


 * Kudpung (and any other interested users), should you have any suggestions or if you feel these terms are unreasonable, please either change them or let me know. I would like Kudpung and/or another administrator to "sign off" prior to the adoption commencing.


 * Thank you. -- Go  Phightins  !  22:30, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Question
Do vandalism reverts and deletion tags count towards my total?Cobalion. Setting Justice everywhere.active 19:03, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

YGM
Cheers, — Theopolisme ( talk )  21:16, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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Eulimostraca indomatta MadmanBot indication.
Hello there Kudpung,

About a month ago, I created a gastropod article titled Apicalia, once I had published this article a bot under that name of MadmanBot, marked my article with a template stating that the article was directly copied from the World Register of Marine Species, this however, was a mistake and you simply took care of the problem in a flash. I have just now, created an article titled Eulimostraca indomatta and the same bot has once again, marked the article with a tag regarding it being directly duplicated from WoRMS. This is once again false, I was just wondering, is there any possible way I can prevent this from happening again in the future? The way I publish my gastropod articles in is pretty much the same for each and every documentation. Thank you and by the way, enjoy Valentines Day while it lasts this year! Happy editing! The whimsical enigmatic Solo Toady! 09:07, 13 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Admin Swarm has given your account autopatrolled rights but  this won't  apparently  stop  the bot. The false positive returned by  the bot  is due to the very long Latin names that cross the threshold for the number of characters that constitute a copying from  another web source. This bot checks every new page against all sites on the Internet (or AFAIK, at least the ones indexed by Google). I  suggest  you remove these bot notices yourself, leaving Rm COPYVIO template - madman bot false positive as the edit summary, and if there is any  comeback, refer to  this discussion. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 21:44, 14 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I see, I actually would of thought that having autopatroller rights would have prevented this from happening to being with. Simply removing the notice is satisfactory, but I am prepared in case I may require taking the removal into discussion on the talk page of that particular article. Cheers! The whimsical enigmatic Solo Toady! 22:00, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
TBrandley (what's up) 03:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Michaelzeng7 (talk) 04:36, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Review request
Please review Cornwall Shinty Club. I don't know what to do with it. It had been deleted once before it was re-created. Should it be CSDed/Proded? Mr T (Talk?)  [ (New thread?) ] 13:06, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Do some research and if you can't find any RS that assert notability, CSD A7 again. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:33, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Ping
I saw your prod for Lung float test, which you thought was based on a student's paper. The corresponding author for the then-linked paper is the head of medicolegal affairs for emergency services at the University of Cologne, which is not a student position. So since you're a clueful person, and since I'm trying to help someone at Meta with systems for identifying desirable sources, can you give me an idea of what you were thinking (assuming it wasn't just a mistake/a reason intended for a different page)?

Alternatively, if you've got any ideas about common mistakes, I'd be happy to hear them. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:06, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

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Bring back an article
Hi. I just wanted to let you know that I have removed your redirect that caused Shuqun Primary School to redirect to Jurong. Although Shuqun Primary School might be located in Jurong, the article 'Jurong' does not mention this school. I have realised why you wanted to put the redirect because the article did not fit in Wikipedia. That was when my edits were to unorganized. Here a version a lot better that before. I hope it is not too bad for deletion. Do leave a feedback. Thanks! Hz.tiang (talk) 13:25, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi, unfortunately Shuqun, like most primary schools, does not demonstrate sufficient importance to justify a stand-alone article in Wikipedia; it fails to meet our criteria for notability at WP:GNG, and in particular, WP:ORG for organisations which also inludes schools.I realise that you had put some extra work into it but to avoid it being deleted completely, I have redirected it again to Jurong where it is now mentioned. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:18, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

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