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now closed; hope my rationale wasn't too TL:DR (or, y'know, wrong). Ironholds (talk) 23:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Tee hee... well, it might have been edging in on tl:dr- in most cases you wouldn't need much of a rationale or even necessarily one at all. However, I think it was relatively reasonable for you to put in what you did as it was a contentious AfD. No matter what you do in these cases, people are going to argue with you about it- I wouldn't be surprised if they already were! However, any uninvolved admin would almost certainly agree with your decision so don't worry about it. Good work being bold! l'aquatique   [talk]  20:20, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Eastwood (rapper)
Hey I know it was a long time ago but could you userfy the most relavent reversion of Eastwood (rapper)? To User:STATicVerseatide/Eastwood (rapper)  STATic  message me!  19:12, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ - I did a restore/move to preserve all of the revisions- so if you're looking for a specific one feel free to revert it to the revision you like. However if you do that, please remove the categories (you can write them like this Category:loremipsum to keep the categories there for reference but not actually place the article in the category). Enjoy! l'aquatique   [talk]  20:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial arts
Regarding your warning, for the record, I did start a discussion previously to changing it since January 11, 2011. After 5 days, I went ahead and changed it per WP:BB since January 16, 2011. It was only on January 23, 2011 that Paralympiakos reverted the changes without discussing them before doing it, which by the way he did again. Jfgslo (talk) 22:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I just noticed that, it was sort of a ways up the talk page so I didn't see it before. I warned User:Paralympiakos about edit warring, so if the issue continues to persist please let me know and I can intervene further. As far as I can tell from your discussion, this is a MOS issue, yes? l'aquatique   [talk]  22:22, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Correct, mainly with capitalization (MOS:CAPS) and to a lesser degree with flag icons (MOS:ICON). Since it's an style issue, most editors appear to simply ignore the discussion and the Manual of Styles. Any suggestion to get more editors involved in this discussion? Jfgslo (talk) 23:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * By the way, I mentioned the revert that Paralympiakos did because I didn't notice the warning in his talk page since it was removed. I thought you had forgotten to put it or that it was placed before the revert. Jfgslo (talk) 23:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * MOS issues are tricky mostly because the manual of style is a guideline, not policy and thus not generally well-enforced. Indeed, WP:IAR tells us we should use common sense rather than strictly sticking to guidelines so acceptance of MOS rules tends to vary quite a bit. A good argument against using icons (that's not mentioned in the MOS) is that loading images of any kind increases server load, and can be annoying for people with slow connections, text-based browsers, etc. I don't really like using images at all unless they're really necessary, and this is a place where they are most certainly not necessary. That said, I wouldn't (and probably no other admin would) place a block or page protection for manual of style violations unless there was a 3RR violation, so your best bet to solve this is to seek out mediation or more opinions and convince the other party to stop reverting.
 * In any case, you have a few options for getting more minds involved. I would start with a post on the MOS talk page. We also have a third opinion mechanism that brings an uninvolved editor into the arena, but that is essentially the purpose I am serving for you here, so you may not want to go down that route. You could also try opening a request for comment, but try the MOS talk page first because this seems like a pretty open and shut dealio. Hope that helps, let me know if there's anything else I can assist with. l'aquatique   [talk]  00:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It's been already 3 days since I requested help at WT:MOS and there have been no responses so far. Even Paralympiakos has commented nothing on the issue, only leaving me a message in my talk page to stop correcting capitalization because it looks ugly. So far, only LOL has added something to the discussion. I still want to revert the changes made by Paralympiakos since he did not give solid arguments for doing it and I firmly believe that the way it is right now, WP:MMA is contradicting WP:MOS, MOS:CAPS and MOS:ICON and wasting bandwidth unnecessarily, but I believe that if I make changes he will simply revert them back without discussing in the talk page of the project. What do you suggest that I do now? Do I wait, do I request help at MOS:CAPS and MOS:ICON or something else? Jfgslo (talk) 16:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I would make the change one more time, and if he reverts it open a request for comment to bring more eyes to the subject. Also, make sure to mention the MOS in your edit summary and keep it really low-key. If you open the RfC, avoid any sort of blame placing and word it something like, "there's a dispute between several editors over interpretation of the Manual of Style."  l'aquatique   [talk]  16:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I have followed your advice. I have once again changed the text of that section. Now I'll wait to see if it's reverted again. Jfgslo (talk) 01:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I have a request. Could you comment on WT:MMA in response to Paralympiakos' most recent comment? I'm afraid that it might seem too personal if only I responded to him, since he, in my opinion, gave no valid reason and seems to simply want to ignore every guideline that he doesn't like. Please read his comments and let me know what you think. I honestly don't see what was the point of them other than expressing that he doesn't like those guidelines and that they should be ignored. Jfgslo (talk) 19:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

(unindent) I commented. I am concerned about the level of hostility going on, but as a now semi-involved admin I can't really do anything about it per se. If he reverts you again, I would recommend opening up a request for comment. l'aquatique  [talk]  00:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Truth be told, I'm also concerned about that, particularly because it's over stylistic issues. I'll be watching it carefully to open a request for comment when needed. Jfgslo (talk) 01:45, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, for right now let's just keep an eye on it. It seems like a simple aesthetic issue like this could be resolved without too much fuss, but perhaps I'm just naive. l'aquatique   [talk]  04:22, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Related edits
Paralympiakos has now been making changes to the biographical articles directly, calling the reverts "normal convention" and plainly ignoring the manual of styles. Check these diffs: Cain Velasquez, Shane Carwin, Stefan Struve. Obviously, he's been doing this without consensus and in several more articles. Could you give me a suggestion on how to proceed here? Do I simply revert his changes? I believe that if I start reverting his changes it might start an edit war on several articles and since they are style edits, it could go on for a very long time. Jfgslo (talk) 19:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for my slow response, I've been really busy. I recommend opening a request for comment at this point, if you haven't done so already. l'aquatique   [talk]  17:53, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, I requested for comment at Requests for comment/Request board. In the mean time, should I refrain from reverting those edits? Because there are many more now. Jfgslo (talk) 16:00, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

As I expected an edit war is ongoing. Just check Special:Contributions/Paralympiakos. I will not revert his edits within the next 24 hours to avoid going against Wikipedia editing policies, but I will revert them back and I'm sure Paralympiakos will do the same. Since these are style edits I really doubt that any administrator will consider them vandalism, which essentially means that we will keep on doing this. What could I do to avoid this useless waste of time of restoring he correct stylization every time this situation happens? Jfgslo (talk) 22:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You could.....I dunno...not do them? It's clear that only you and LOL want to stick rigidly to the MOS "rules". Many many other people do not like them and have reverted. You're the one causing these problems, Jfgslo.  Paralympiakos  (talk) 22:20, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If you look at the discussion on WT:MMA you are the only one who has voiced an opinion against this style and several people have voiced their opinion for it. --Tuoppi gm (talk) 01:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Jfgslo, do not edit war if at all possible, doing so will render you just as culpable as Paralympiakos. Since an rfc was not successful in solving this, you will perhaps wish to open a request for comment (user conduct) which instead of discussing the nature of the edits, discusses the user them self. I am far too involved to feel comfortable using my tools to put a halt to this conflict, but something like that would hopefully draw another admin's attention. You could also try an/i if you're feeling brave. l'aquatique   [talk]  16:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I will follow your advice and will not edit war. As you suggested, I have opened Requests for comment/Paralympiakos. You are welcome to comment on it. Hopefully, another administrator will take notice this time. Jfgslo (talk) 19:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

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