User talk:Labrang

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RfC on Georgia
I noticed you are a recently active member of WikiProject Georgia (country). There is ongoing Request for Comments (RfC) regarding content on the Georgia (country) article. You are cordially invited to join the discussion because as WikiProject Georgia member you may be able to offer valuable perspectives. Kind regards --LeontinaVarlamonva (talk) 10:08, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the invitation. Responded to both points within the RfC and added my thoughts. Labrang (talk) 18:16, 12 August 2021 (UTC).

Georgian Airways
Hi, I've replaced the logo on the Georgian Airways article. I'm not sure why it was removed in favour of an aircraft photo, as there is already imagery of the fleet later in the article to which you could append. Additionally, as it's a non-free image it will be permanently deleted if not in use. -- Atom Crusher  19:24, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @ Atom Crusher I think that was an erroneous edit of mine as I somehow thought it was this svg logo in wikimedia commons which is about to be deleted. Sorry for the misunderstanding and thanks for fixing it. Labrang (talk) 19:36, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Clarification
Thank you for this overdue clarification. I stumbled upon it because the topic had come up in a separate but somewhat related context.

If I were you, I would go even further. Instead of stressing how it is "identifying itself", better state how it is "geopolitically considered part of Europe." Placing emphasis on self-identification is somewhat misleading because it implies as though that's all that matters. The fact is that 27 states of Europe recently certified its belonging to the continent (in their eyes at least), so it appears that it's more than just a matter of self-identification but also that of fairly widespread acceptance. 2600:1700:20:1D80:C16D:866E:2BAA:DF9E (talk) 06:27, 27 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks and you're right. I am currently more active on the Dutch wikipedia as it really lags behind on the Georgia pages. But I keep an eye on here, and I noticed the slight edit dispute which I didn't agree with. I didn't want to push it now, but my thinking is in line what you say. Labrang (talk) 07:00, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like your changes were overwritten by User:Stuntneare without explanation and now the article again says "organizations across Europe and Asia", which as you said "feels constructed" to distance it from Europe. Also, the introduction was changed to say "South Caucasus" instead of "Caucasus" (it's noteworthy that part of Georgia is actually located in the North Caucasus, so Caucasus was factually more accurate and a better choice than a specific region within). On another page, this same user argued to exclude Tbilisi from cities in Europe, so I think you were absolutely right that all of this "feels constructed". Sadly I'm not able to correct...--104.5.61.212 (talk) 02:53, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Related topic
There's a discussion that relates to one of your recent edits so I thought you may be able to offer additional perspectives. 2600:1700:20:1D80:8C24:1D15:EC36:563C (talk) 04:38, 14 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you. The discussion is too long for me to fully read. But my take (I'll see tomorrow if I drop it in an appropriate place in the discussion): Since the list doesn't specify that the city must be located inside a certain (geographical, topographical) definition of Europe, one could interpret "European city" in a broader sense. As I tried to point out before on Georgia and Europe, Tbilisi is considered by hardly anyone an "Asian city". It breathes Europe. It is considered a European city, just like Georgia is considered a European country, as is proven by the fact it is included in ALL the European supra-national structures, including being welcome in the EU, and it is taking part in UEFA and so on and on and on. There is nothing Asian about the country and its relations, no matter how hard people try to fixate on an arbitrary definitional debate on the continental divide. To put it strongly: to hang it *only* on the strict geographic definition is narrow minded from people who can't look beyond their maps. Labrang (talk) 22:13, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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Georgian identity
We discussed quite awhile ago now the need for better inclusion and sourcing of Georgian identity, in particular the European identity, on the Georgia page. I have (very belatedly) added a bit on that here. I've tried to keep it reasonably succinct given the already overbearing length of that article, mostly including ideas that were common throughout all the sources, but the sources added contain a lot that could be used to expand if needed. Best, CMD (talk) 14:33, 26 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Apologies for my belated response, CMD, but this is certainly a good addition and gives the right handles to readers to contextualize the European self-identity. Thank you. Labrang (talk) 15:18, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

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