User talk:Lady Aleena/Userboxes

Please place your comment under the appropriate heading. - Lady Aleena

My userbox page
I take it that you are using IE and not FireFox. In FireFox they were fine, but IE really screws things up. I just looked at the userboxes that I have made in IE, and I think that I will go scream now. Half the images which have transparent backgrounds in FireFox are not transparent in IE. I never thought to check IE for compatibility. walks away muttering deprications against IE - LA @ 11:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * cringes at the thought.
 * Well, I suppose we should be glad that we found this out "now"...
 * (looks for a place to hide)
 * - Jc37 11:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I think that I will just quietly go mad and be done with it. IE really makes my userpage look really bad. My talk page worse. - LA @ 11:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for updating my userpage. I have been meaning to do it, and never got around to it. The One00 07:51, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes general
Just let me know when you need my support LA, Most od th eboxes I use are aprt of a wikiproject anyways or made myself Aeon  Insane Ward  23:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

You are Awesome!
LA I have to hand it to you and what better way then this

Another Barnstar for you...
Hey, I've seen the continued good work you have done on various templates, and I'd like to thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.


 * The Law & Order templates are quite nice... Michael 08:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the sun. It is very much appreciated. Michael 20:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I stumbled across them the other day. Michael 20:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Dear Aleena
Dear Aleena, I've just noticed the great effort you're making to organize the tons of user templates - awesome work, congratulations! I couldn't help but to notice something tho, and since I am not sure whether you intended to make it that way or not, I thought I might ask. You created Category:Musican fan user templates, and you are currently updating all Musician fan templates there - note the missing i in Musician. If this is simply a typing mistake, I can gladly help you correct it at all the templates that go within it, otherwise... just ignore what I said :) Big hugs,  Phædriel   ♥   tell me  - 22:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * It'll be my pleasure, dear - please, go on with other stuff and leave that Category to me. I have to finish some stub sorting and a few more thing I was doing right now, but I'll dedicate all my Wiki-time tomorrow to that, sounds ok? Btw, your great effort is much appreciated, hun - don't diminish yourself! Big hugs,  Phædriel   ♥   tell me  - 23:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll do it myself, dear Aleena - don't worry ;) I just got home, so I've been unable to give a hand today, but I'll get to it immediately, and if I run out of time, I'll continue tomorrow, I swear. Hugs! :)  Phædriel   ♥   tell me  - 21:36, 4 July 2006 (UTC) This will be a daunting task, as you said, dear... but I'm game ;) I've been having a look and it'll take detectivesque work, so I'll see what I can do between today and tomorrow, it's a promise - Phae


 * No, I had not figured it out yet, hun (tho it was just a matter of time - yeah, as if! ;) That will certainly help me detect them easier, thanx dear! I've already fished a couple, and with your advice, we'll put them all in a basket pretty soon. One thing for sure is, I don't wanna see another userbox for the rest of life! Aaargh! - Phae

Hi. I've just seen all the work you have been doing categorizing userboxes. Thanks for doing the hard yards! You certainly deserve that barnstar. Blarneytherinosaur 05:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Aleena, I just noticed your categorization of the "textile art" userboxes -- thanks very much! :D Hopefully, more people will discover them once they're easier to find. Willow 23:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Template:User blogat - thanks
Thanks for catching my mistake on the blogat userbox. I had copied and pasted the Usage section from another userbox, but forgot to change the category sort. Good catch! —GrantNeufeld 22:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Scouting user template cat
What a brilliant idea! The ScoutingWikiProject, of which I am the coordinator, thanks you. I should have thought of it. Rlevse 01:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep, I know you did it for the userbox cat, not for us, but I still love the idea. I'd already put a notice about this on our project page too. Thanks again. Rlevse 09:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

About Category:User_templates
Aleena,

I noticed you removed the statement from my user page, which is reasonabl, since that category is for all templates beginning with "User", not user pages.

I was thinking if it would be appropriate to remove that reference from all user pages using it. If you agree with me, drop me a note on my talk page. I will start removing all user pages from that category, after your confirmation.

Regards,

huji— TALK 11:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for recat
Thanks for correcting my User Fletch template's category as part of your big fix. If I make any new ones, I will be sure to put them in the right spot. Great user page, BTW. I had read Raymond E. Feist's books and the Xanth series many moons ago, but never thought to look them on wikipedia. I will be sure to check out the work you and others have put into those. -- MrDolomite | Talk 19:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
RE: User:Travb/Some argue

Thanks for correcting spelling error, I am so embarrased (sp?) that I didn't spell wikipedia correctly Travb (talk) 20:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thank you for that simply amazing work! — Mi ra  10:58, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

For all of your work...



 * I'll echo the sentiment. Fra nkB


 * Also Left you messages on your proposal on a missing category 1 and WPP:seriesTalk. ttfn // Fra nkB 19:43, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

you look like you need a star or two.
I kno wthey are still a work in progress bu tthis should let you know your on the right track in my opinion Aeon  Insane Ward  20:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the WikiMoon! Made a new ribbon just for it. Aeon Insane Ward  20:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Me to I'm a metreologist, I'm making a thanks of my own (weather related of course) Aeon  Insane Ward  20:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Card games
ERS is short for Egyptian Rat Screw. --Genius00345 19:09, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I also added another card game that I like to play. It's called "President", and its article is at President (game). It's also not in the template. --Genius00345 21:58, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I see that you paid my page a visit
...and that you're very busy here on Wikipedia! Yes, you deleted all of the card game userboxes that I'd created back when I had more time on my hands. I was refurbishing these with icons that were specific to certain games (like the 10♦ for Cassino, pr the K♥ for Barbu) to help distinguish the different card game userboxes from one another. Some of these games are played with the same equipment and many are not (card games like Tarock, Scopa and even Skat are played with different decks) and even card games that share common elements can be as different as chess and checkers. Having distinguishing userboxes for different games helps us understand the areas of expertise of a card-playing user (e.g.: I know a lot about Skat and that can lend itself to other German games such as Sheepshead, however I know nothing about Contract bridge, which tends to dominate the English-speaking world of card-players — all of this says a lot about my area of expertise as a card-player and perhaps as a person in general). To homogenize all of this runs equivalent to replacing icons for Sontarans and Cybermen with that of Daleks because the latter is happens to be the more recognizable figure.

That said, thank's for the "hope you don't mind" note. Truth is, I don't mind, or even really care. I put userboxes on my page because they were fun and a good exercise for learning Wikipedia. It does feel a bit intimidating to have someone with a userpage as fancy as yours go about mucking around in my humble little userpage, but I'll probably wait until this whole "German Solution" thing has passed or settled before I make any adjustments to my page. Then I'll go and rack up my vandalism counter and go to bed. — Morganfitzp 06:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: Card game user templates
Dear Think Fast, ''I have been on a mission to reduce the amount of user templates by merging like ones together by using parser functions for the differences. Recently I made a master card game template based on your work. After enough people switch to the master template, I would like to put your individual ones up for deletion. Now, I am hoping that you will not be hurt by this. You can see the master template at Template:User card games. I have put a little message on all but 4 of those templates on your user page to see the master template. Hopefully you will not be angry with me when you read this. Thank you for your great design. &mdash;Lady Aleena talk / contribs 05:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)''
 * I am not mad in the slightest about the master template. In fact, I am honored that you are using my design for the master template. There seem to a few templates that differ from what can be created with the master template. These templates are cassino, cribbage, golf, mus, sheepshead, skat, tichu, and truco. It seems to me that in the end it wouldn't matter at all just to go with the master template. This would lead to better organization and would reduce the number of total userboxes. My vote is for ignoring that they are different. Good luck with your work and let me know if you need help! --Think Fast 00:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: my page
Outraged That's my page, you had no right to destroy it. I'm going to an admin to protect, and ban you for blatant vandalism! Just kidding. I appreciate it. Thanks. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 14:56, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

DAoC
User DAoC - Are you aware that it's been deleted? I don't know why or by whom. - Jc37 22:15, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Doctor Who Doctor
Hi Lady Aleena, nice #switch...eroo on this and similar templates! Also, Thanks for all of your Great cat work! Rfrisbietalk 19:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the sunshine Happy Editting! Aeon Insane Ward  00:32, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Dr. Who Userbox
Nothing so complicated as what you were suggesting, or even what you seemed to think I was suggesting.

By using the numeric redirects to access the Doctor articles, you don't need to utilize the switch code. They just add "|6th" onto the template name to get the above. It does the exact same thing as yours with its "switch" code, but it's simpler. The only downside is it requires the user type an extra 2 letters, which I think they can handle. --tjstrf 23:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Of course, the same thing won't work for your other boxes, but I just thought that in this case, where the different templates are differentiated by numbers, that there was no need to go into such complex coding when you were attempting to save space in the first place. --tjstrf 00:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

New Who Box
No worries, thanks for doing it! HornetMike 22:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

And some wikithanks from me, too. Several people have changed userboxes on my page in the past - you're the only one who has been courteous enough to leave a "hope you don't mind" message. So... thanks :) Grutness...wha?  01:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to echo the above statements, it's nice to see a kind message like yours about fixing and improving my userpage :) Satan&#39;s Rubber Duck 01:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Law and Order Template
Thanks for changing the template (and thus letting me know about all the other L&O templates out there.) --Tim4christ17 16:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

The Lord of the Rings
So far, I've liked what you've done with combining the similar multiples. I have a challenge for you (though perhaps it isn't much of one).

Combining the User LOTR templates.

"This user loves The Lord of the Rings"

Text constants:
 * 1) book series
 * 2) film trilogy
 * 3) 1978 animated film

separators:
 * , and the
 * , or the
 * , but not the
 * , preferring the
 * 1) over the

(No comma with "over the" is not a typo)

And a period at the end, of course.

Just a few of the many possible examples:


 * This user loves The Lord of the Rings book series
 * This user loves The Lord of the Rings 1978 animated film, but not the film trilogy.
 * This user loves The Lord of the Rings film trilogy, and the 1978 animated film.
 * This user loves The Lord of the Rings book series, and the film trilogy, but not the 1978 animated film.
 * This user loves The Lord of the Rings, preferring the book series, and the film trilogy over the 1978 animated film.

Thanks in advance : )

- Jc37 22:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I already have them on my userbox desk. :) I will look into them in a while. Just give me time. I have 6 projects there, and 1 that is finished and ready to be used. You can add anymore you see there, just please put in alphabetical order over the edits section. Edits is giving me the worst headache. - LA @ 00:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


 * What are you building into edits? : )
 * I am guessing it's more than a variable for # of edits, and maybe a variable for the 3 colors of the userbox (square, rectangle, and text)?
 * - Jc37 04:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * You got it in one try. I am just trying to find the right color balance. I am not having much luck however. I might even put in a variable for the font size of the left box. - LA @ 05:02, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe you're being "too" helpful : )
 * Just make the variables for colour "blank", and optional at the end. Set the default colour (white and blue, grey and white, dk grey and lt grey, shrugs), and let each person set their own colour preference beyond that. - Jc37 05:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Monty Python
It's great! But, I didn't expect The Spanish Inquisition! lol It's really great. Can you put pictures of Cleese, Palin and the others? Stefanmg  (talk)  10:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC) I can put it like this:

I don't mind. But, I really wanted to have their pictures, though...

There's one that I use that doesn't look like it made the list: User montypythonbum -plange 14:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

You were correct on this. I even added the one on SPAM. Chris 00:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I will make the TfD adjutment on this and the Star Trek. Chris 11:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Monty Python Templates
Oh, sorry about the misunderstanding. Though it has been there for more than a week... Fredil Yupigo 14:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

re: Monty Python TfD compromise
I quite like what you've done, as a matter of fact. This is pretty much what I had in mind when I voted. I think you've done a top job!

And about my userboxes... go for gold! I don't have the energy to go playing around with 'em, that's all. Originally I had a sort of table thing with 4 going across the page, but then I realised they only looked good on a widescreen laptop like mine.

Cheers, &mdash; riana_dzasta • t • c • e  • 09:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I also think you deserve one more of these shiny ol' things...

No I havent yet, I just like mine the way it is.  °≈§→  Robom  æ  yhem:   T / ←§≈°  09:56, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


 * It's a good idea, I just don't see the need to get rid of them in the first place. -- Nataly a 15:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I tried it -- I was unable to change the font color. If a template is going to be used to replace templates that do not need to be replaced, there needs to be flexibility. If you can fix that issue, I'll consider ther compromise -- after I get answers to as few other questions. Jim 62 sch  15:21, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the message in my user box - I may disagree with disbanding the old templates for others, but in answer to your question, yes I had already personally switched to your template.Winstonwolfe 08:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC) Favourite Dr who? Tom Baker-cause i grew up with him. Also, because I have been hassled for supposedly being his twin because I look almost exactly nothing like him. Unless you count a long scarf. Yours?Winstonwolfe 08:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC) Thanks :-) Winstonwolfe 08:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Confused on Monty Python vote
How could the admin have said the result was userfy when the keeps and deletes were way more? Now what we didn't want to have happen has happened? plange 06:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

User:UBX/Monty Python
I see you've put most of the work into this template. It's got to be userfy'd in the next four or so days or it will be deleted. Since it's your baby, I thought I'd ask you if you wanted to keep it. I'm more than happy to stick it in User:BigNate37/TM/UBX/Monty Python and list it at User:BigNate37/TM/UBX if you'd rather not have it in your userspace. BigNate37T·C 23:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Do not under any circumstances userfy or delete this template. This template was created to replace all other Monty Python user templates in an attempt to show that GUS is not the only option available to gain control of user templates. I am violently and vehemently against GUS and the userfication of ANY template no matter how small. Please read my oppositional statement on the GUS. There would be no need for any templates to be moved into user space if there were fewer of them, and right now I am attempting to make that happen. The other redundant Monty Python templates should have been deleted, however, some users were so vocal that they were kept. Those templates you can do what you will with them. Just leave Template:User Monty Python alone; it stays where it is, where it belongs, in Template space. Do not move this template. &mdash;Lady Aleena talk / contribs 23:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Wow. Well, good luck with your userbox battle, I think I'll stay out of it. My comments were regarding Wikipedia talk:Userboxes. Might I suggest taking a small WP:Wikibreak? BigNate37T·C 00:01, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Star Trek series
Thank you for your help. I greatly appreciate it. NKSCF 18:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I did try the new userbox as you suggested for ST:TNG and I like it. It looks so much cleaner! Chris 00:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I will change my votes on this and the Python template as well. Chris 11:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks for the fixes :) Tromboneguy0186 05:19, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Time zone
Hello. I was wondering some things about usage of the new. Is there a way to use GMT offsets or piped links with the template? I would like to be able to set the variable once and not have to ever change it again. Right now I am GMT-5, and this works for me as I don't need to change it when I go on/off DST. I see that I can use EST as a template, but 1) that links to a dab page and I am really in North American Eastern Time Zone 2) I would have to change between EST and EDT. If I use UTC-4, once again, I would need to switch between that and UTC-5. Right now, I am using, which is accurate, but looks a bit unwieldy. Any thoughts? Thanks --Brian G (Talk) 12:44, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

TV userbox
Its fine by me i was hoping someone would find an image and maybe nicer colors heh. Discordance 15:07, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Your reason for opposing the German userbox solution
Hi LA, I read that you oppose WP:GUS and I am curious for your reason for that. (While I'm a supporter of it I agree that there are valid points for every side in this discussion). Also, if you would like to discuss about it, feel free to join in at WP:GUS about. Charon X /talk 13:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

List of Userboxes
(cross posted at several talk pages) I found that list, but since it was so old, I decided to make a new one... manually... (I should have mentioned this to someone before, so that they could talk me out of it : )

Sooo, several hours of typing/pasting/etc later...

They aren't a "huge" mess... but some observations:


 * 1.) We should have a better or clearer naming convention, or something.
 * There is no standard to capitalising the first word after "User " (it's about 50% lower/upper case). This also means that there are many hundreds of userboxes that are listed twice, once with an uppercase second word, and once with the lower case second word (though more than a few are redirects).
 * several userboxes have a dash (-) or NO space between "User" and the first word.
 * greek, russian, etc. letters in the name.
 * the use of punctuation, such as "/" "," "..." etc.


 * 2.) Several appear to be attempts to make userified templates. I'll work on moving those to each user's userspace.


 * 3.) Many (very many) religion/politics ones are "back" in template space, it would appear that they just apparently "accidentally" haven't been added to the Userboxes sub-pages.


 * 4.) there are more userbox redirects than the number of userboxes on a single subpage : )


 * 5.) Oh, quantity of userboxes = 10027 (though that includes redirects, and 118 templates that have "user" as the initial word (though some of those have "userbox" as the first word). So it's roughly 10 thousand userboxes in template space. ouch.

Can I run away screaming now? : )

- Jc37 13:00, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Location please, a wikilink will do the trick. - LA @ 13:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * of? List of userboxes is the old page I found, if that is what you mean? - Jc37 13:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Um, the new list, where is it? - LA @ 13:34, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh. Well it's currently as a spreadsheet on my computer. It's the result of various searches, and collating the results. I dunno if I can/should add it, since it's so loooong. Here're a few examples.

- Jc37 13:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Rfrisbie/Userboxes/Media/bak
Hi LA,

Could you take a look at User:Rfrisbie/Userboxes/Media/bak and see if the display can be formatted to a typical screen width? Also, I'm trying to use this set of "/bak" pages for subst'd boxes, rather than transclusions. If you let me know when it's ready, I'll resub. Thanks, Rfrisbietalk 21:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks!

Rfrisbietalk 22:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * p.s. Any suggestions? Category:User pages displaying userboxes and corresponding code

Rfrisbietalk 22:25, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Category:Lists of substituted user templates may be better, if that is what subst stands for. But is that cat really needed if you are the only one doing it?
 * As for userboxes disappearing, I know one of the culprits and am furious. You want to help bring 2 back from the grave? - LA @ 22:30, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * That group of three cats originally was for any type of userspace archive/directory, they're just a bit long-winded. "Real soon now," I might get around to paring down the backup pages to just basic info, including original ParserFunctions, etc. They don't need to be in any cat. I've had good luck with asking Xaosflux to retrieve deleted code. I'm willing to ask if you'd rather not. Rfrisbietalk 01:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Request - Done. :-) Rfrisbietalk 03:08, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, this (Deletion review/Recently concluded (2006 August)) is about what I expected. Are you going to try to get them working in userspace? Rfrisbietalk 15:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the recategorization.
No, I don't mind at all. Thank you! &mdash; T-Boy : (complain bitterly) (laugh contemptuously) 05:31, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the userbox update! Randomly enough, I live in the Urbana area, just 15 minutes south of Frederick. Small world, huh? --Perimosocordiae 04:30, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Microsoft Windows Userboxes
Relating to your edit summary on my userboxes page, the modifications you made are not a problem. Thanks for your help! Andrew (My talk) 11:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

My userpage
Just let you know, this edit broke my userpage (extra }}). I have now fixed it, hope you will be little bit more careful when changing other's userpage next time. Anyways, happy edit in Wikipedia. ^_^ --WinHunter (talk) 04:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

New userboxes
I have deleted a userbox template you recently created, as userboxes should no longer be created in templatespace per the terms of the German userbox solution. Here is the userbox code so that you can recreate the userbox in your userspace ("userfying") if you wish.

-- Cyde Weys 15:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

No
I cannot comply with you request. I do not agree with the current policy and the inclusion of deleted templates is my protest. Jooler 21:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Template
Cheers for changing the template. :) Sarz 03:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Cheers for fixing my userpage, i had been meaning to get round to it for a while but kept on forgetting :) Richard Matthews 18:10, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Helping in your template project
Hi there Aleena,

I checked the LJ templates this afternoon, and saw you had it done already. Drop me a line on my talk page anytime with grunt work you want to farm out, and I will get to it. It's a nice project, I'd like to help out any way I can :) T e k e ( talk ) 03:25, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Userboxen
I created a script that will autoreplace these things. Go to User:BigDT/monobook.js, click view source, and copy the whole thing to User:Lady Aleena/monobook.js. It will give you a little button over on the left hand side of your screen in the "toolbox" that says "Temp replace image". I've set it up to replace User GMT with, but it could just as easily be used to make any other replacement. (You will also get some cool image deletion buttons if you copy the whole thing. If you don't want them, remove the part from Howcheng in your copy of it.) BigDT 13:08, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Re your message on my page, the word "don't" has an apostrophe. Change it to "do not" or "don\'t" and it will work fine. BigDT 16:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Template problems
These really should be listed INDIVIDUALLY on the page so they can be found. Standard procedure seems to be listing them individually. You can hardly expect someone to hunt thru to find your little sub page and then hunt thru it for their template. Please be more considerate of other users in the future. Wikipedia is hard enought to navigate and find things like this as it is. Zotel - the Stub Maker 13:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Javascript-assisted template substitution
Hey- please get another copy of the script from my monobook. A concern was expressed to me that the edits need to be marked as "minor" so that users running RC patroll can ignore them. Optionally, instead of updating your script, on your preferences screen, you can just check "Mark all edits minor by default". BigDT 17:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * One other question - what are you doing about instances where the person uses babel? See and look at anyone who is still using the template. I have replaced everything that can be replaced, but there is nothing that can be done for someone with babel - that template just takes a template name and doesn't do parameters. BigDT 18:59, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

RE:LOTR Templates
I'm sorry that you don't like GUS. But, it has been endourced by Jimbo as the right way to do things. And, to top it off, the two main deletionist admins (Tony and Cyde) have both endorsed GUS, saying that is the only way these userboxes (all of them) are going to survive. If you want to merge the templates, feel free to edit them where they are now, it won't make a difference. I have already bypassed all the redirects (almost 500), so I'm not going to move them back. And if you ready WP:GUS, you would have noticed it said just do it. What you're looking for is this, which was already rejected. -Royalguard11TalkMy Desk 15:39, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Userbox merger
Would be interested in merging the following userboxes regarding The Pussycat Dolls: User The Pussycat Dolls and User:Miller17CU94/Userboxes/User PCD? Please advise. Chris 14:07, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks for fixing my userpage's Jabber userbox. Much appreciated. --Cuervo, not logged in @ 76.212.161.251 03:29, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

School userboxes
Could you point me to the discussion that decided one userbox would replace all university boxes? Thanks! - auburn pilot   talk  20:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Being bold and replacing hundreds of individual userboxes are not one in the same; neither are universities and time zones. Seeing as you've only been switching these for a short time, and several have already been reverted, I suggest taking this to TfD first. - auburn pilot   talk  20:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * And incidentally, I support the template merger. I just disagree with the boldness, I suppose. - auburn pilot   talk  20:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would definitely TfD first. To do otherwise assumes everyone agrees with your intended outcome. Those who don't switch may just disagree with the proposal. I think the change will be supported, but your approach seems reversed. - auburn pilot   talk  20:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure. They'll actually have to be nominated at Miscellany for deletion, according to the TfD page. I know there is a bot out there somewhere that does this, but appears to be dead. If you setup the deletion discussion page, I'll use my alternate account and WP:AWB to place the tags. Just point me to the list. -  auburn pilot   talk  21:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Untalked School Template Edit
I applaud you for wishing to standardize school userboxes but I logged in to find the Caltech Alumni userbox had been edited to append a message to move the syntax over to the User school template. This kind of proposal is best for the talk page unless you do the complete edit yourself as it makes the pages of all alumni with that box contain the ugly hint that someone should change the syntax.

I went ahead and changed it as requested. It looks ok but there is no way in the grad variable to change it from attended to alumni. There is a big difference - think Harvard and Bill Gates as an extreme.

Hopefully this won't happen on a couple other boxes I created. Mikebar (talk) 20:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Bold is good but if you look at Wikipedia:Userboxes/Education then you'll see more boxes that look more broken than changed. Wouldn't it have been better to have a bot change the talk pages and have the creators take a stab at the change instead of getting thousands of users with ugly boxes that stay that way until the original creator (or someone who cares also) goes and fixes it?  Being bold is making a change, not telling thousands that a change is needed. Mikebar (talk) 20:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, I changed Caltech and Caltech Alumni, Whitman and Whitman Alumni to use your new template. It's hard to put into words the alumni thing.  Getting into a college and going is a big accomplishment in itself (my daughter is trying).  But to actually graduate, having spent alot of money and alot of time & effort, that allows one to say they accomplished a bit more.  And the institutions themselves pump this up - if you are an alumni you are primed to give money to "alumni funds" to support the institution more.  A never severed cord.  I hope this helps.  Good luck in your boldness - you tackle alot of content.  I actually do myself although it is on a separate wiki for my employer.  Mikebar (talk) 06:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * PS - you might look at template:educat to ensure the doc syntax follows your new format. Mikebar (talk) 06:43, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

School userbox MFD
I closed it under WP:SNOW because there were such a vast number of keep votes I didn't think it likely that there would be a mass change in opinion over it or a lot of people suddenly favoring deletion. If you disagree with this, by all means, take it to WP:DRV. Thanks. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 15:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

New School Userbox
I would like to thank you for creating the new school userbox. I know I have been picking out a lot of deficiencies, but I have been implementing this userbox to its fullest potential. Go to Template:User ISU Cyclone to see the amazing abilities your school userbox has given me in creating a versatile userbox from what you have developed. Rasamassen (talk) 00:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Users never left
I don't think there's any shortage of room in the Template namespace for everything. But, I wonder why we don't just have a Userboxes namespace or something? Doesn't putting stuff in Userspace carry undesired implications (e.g. that edits by people other than that user are discouraged)? Obuibo Mbstpo (talk) 04:58, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Oxbridge User Boxes
Thank you for your recent message on my talk page. I am not sure what prompted you to create an Oxbridge user box, but my preference would be to keep my Wadham College alumnus box. Oxford and Cambridge students and alumni identify with their college first, then the university. – ukexpat (talk) 17:00, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I read the usage and it does not explain how I customise for my college -- am I missing something?! Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 17:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for notifying me about your project, but I think it is somewhat wrong-headed. Graduates of Oxford and Cambridge universities do not generally think of themselves as 'Oxbridge'. Or even as Cambridge or Oxford people but, as ukexpat implies, a man/woman(in my case a 'Kingsman'). NB they are 'colleges', not 'collages' which would be a different affair. Moreover, the colleges and the university are not referred to as 'schools', as in your project text. So I will be sticking to my King's template - and I guess most other users of college templates will make a similar decision. Best regards, Smerus

user time zone
Hi. Can you give an example of where it "severely hurts" formatting when I converted the template to use userbox? My tests showed nothing out of the ordinary. — Edokter  •  Talk  • 23:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Then we could just make it  (instead of the default 14pt); that would make it even slightly smaller then the current code. —  Edokter  •  Talk  • 23:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

UCFD
regarding your comment on: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:User_categories_for_discussion&diff=198209011&oldid=198206215#Category:Wikipedians_by_role-playing_game_and_subcategories

"Merge Category:Wikipedians who play Advanced Dungeons & Dragons into Category:Wikipedians who play Dungeons & Dragons. AD&D is no longer used by Wizards of the Coast for the newer versions of D&D and there is no need to be that specific. - LA @ 16:26, 6 March 2008 (UTC)"

first i don't mind the category not existing anymore. i created it for two reason. to attmept to create a userbox, and one with the parsing funcitons. and because it is NOT the same thing as D&D. i am offended by your comment because i am a fan, and do not like the editions that WotC produces. as Black Falcon stated AD&D does not have its own article, but that is not for lack of needing one. outside of the gaming community people may lump them into the same thing, but as even the main D&D article will tell you they are different games. it would be like calling all roll playing games set in a fantasy world/setting D&D. while it may work for ease of talking when ordering a gelatin dessert to call it Jell-O, it doesnt mean every gelatin dessert is made from that brand name. my bias agaisnt WotC aside and strictly to the facts. the games are different. there should be a seperate page for AD&D, and players and non-players alike should know that there is a difference. many today know there are NOT the same thing as many are glad to not have AD&D in produciton anymore and 3.x edition from WotC. others despise the WotC 3.x edition, and its new incarnation 4E. some that like AD&D also like the idea of 4E, as do some that like 3.x. its a very mixed field of opinons. the bottom line is even though these games all carry a name, they are all different games. 3.x is not AD&D, AD&D is not 4E, 3.x is not OD&D, etc. it doesn't matter that the current copyright holder no longer publishes material for AD&D. the game still exists. the books and other source material for the game did NOT spontaneously combust when 3,9 and 3.5 was created. and this goes for older editions of D&D as well. 3.x will not disappear from the plaent in June 2008 when 4E is released. so WotC does not control what games exist as your statement would imply. it can only control what game they currently choose to publish. now this goes for many people other than yourself, but i can't reply to a closed deletion debate. just your comment is something many people have been trying to fight for quite a while. it doesn't deminish that all these games are based on a similar foundation save for 4E chaning most of it, and that people enjoy playing the games that carry the D&D name. but that name is just being thrown on anything unlike the past where the name was altered to show these games were different. to sum up D&D, and AD&D existed before WotC. they never needed WotC to exist. WotC shouldn't jsut call each new game D&D indescriminately, but that is their marketing gimmic to sell product to people who don't know better. and especially AD&D is not something WotC ever supported. they made a few prodcuts after acquiring TSR and the rights to D&D to keep it alive just long enough until they released 3.0 and got their version of the game rolling. if HASBRO ever sells WotC, or WotC ever sells the D&D, and AD&D brands to someone else there may be another version of one of these games all together. WotC is NOT the God and final say of all things (A)D&D. this is something i have being trying to fight with the D&D arctiles regarding the bias towards the current edtions presetned in them that make them look more like advertisements for WotC rather than giving information on all things considered (A)D&D. again this is why i created the user box with parser functions and giving a choice for those who chose to use it. and would prefer one for D&D to have the same type of parser functions to distinguish between the editions as not everyone that plays one version of the D&D game play all forms of it. again all people that play D&D don't play every other RPG. generalizing thing can oft be offensive to people. well ranting and such done. i don't mind the category no longer existing. but i do mind the bias towards WotC in regards to (A)D&D. just because they put the name of D&D on a product doesn't mean it will be D&D to everyone, jsut that they have the right to use the name for their products. (see 4th Edition forums on WotC for many people who agree if you can wade through the trolls that instantly attack those who do not worship all things WotC creates.) thanks for your time in reading this. shadzar-talk 02:17, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * well it would have been nice to have a category, i just hate when they are all lumped together and sadly that is all i ever see. i can understand in a book store where they need to be organized for ease of finding. jsut i hate being lumped with 3.x as i hate what WotC has done to the game. after hearing it so much "WotC makes it so its all WotC and they get to decide what is D&D now". i jsut get sick of that bias towards them. if you aren't too busy you may wish to stop buy and join or support the D&D wikiproject. that is if you don't already know about it. the articles are under heavy cleanup. on reason to remove the bias that makes them look like an advertisement for WotC's newest edition, and to remove needless articles that exist on every little thing D&D related, just because the 3.x SRD/OGL lets things be reproduced. and if you love FR, then don't look at new information about 4th edition as they completely ripped the Realms apart for no reason other ther to make it mechanicaly fit with 4th edition. yuck! well thanks for readin my bit above even though you already knew it. again not being able to comment on the closed delete thing may have put more into than what i may have said in it there. happy adventuring. shadzar-talk 00:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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