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Hey, Limpice! When you said it is obvious that the author of this was biased and is now actively hostile at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Joe Biden 2020 presidential campaign endorsements, that wasn't really assuming good faith on the part of the nominator. Please try to assume other editors are doing the best they can to improve the encyclopedia. You can find more information about assuming good faith at WP:AGF. Thanks! —valereee (talk) 21:12, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
valereee, said nominator told an editor to "fuck off" in semi-cryptic terms ("Arkell v. Pressdram applies.") and angrily yelled bullshit at someone who commented to keep. AGF does not apply in a situation where common sense triumphs. While I understand your intent, this is not a case where AGF is really relevant. Thanks! KingForPA (talk) 21:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate the reminder but I'm unsure what I'm supposed to think of an editor insulting other's intelligence and shouting bullshit at me! Limpice (talk) 21:35, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, for the record, calling an expressed idea 'bullshit' isn't actually problematic, especially at AfD. We don't encourage it, and you're welcome to object. You aren't welcome to retaliate. And they didn't actually shout it; that would have taken ALL CAPS. The community has also decided that in some cases, "Fuck off" is not a problem; in this case I'm actually laughing at Pressdram v Arkell isn't one I'd seen before. They didn't even actually say fuck off. And they didn't insult your intelligence. They told you very directly that you didn't understand them and that you shouldn't try to translate for them. The "lack the insight" phrasing could maybe be stretched to claim personal attack, but again this is AfD. Things can get heated. It's not really a good place for newer editors, which both of you are. I don't even know how someone with 8 edits even figures out how to find AfD. I was still trying to figure out how to successfully make an edit at that point. —valereee (talk) 14:44, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
