User talk:Marcok

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Unrelevant
Ciao!! As for Attilios 09:12, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Ti dovevo ringraziare
Scusa se lo faccio dopo 22 giorni. In questi giorni ho tentato (telefonata a Frieda Brioschi, mail a Gliu, Jaqen e Tia Solzago, contatti in chat con Sannita e Marco27), di spiegare un pò le mie attenuanti sull'errore (grave, meno grave, ma sempre di errore si trattava non di crimine) ma nessuno, educatamente, mi ha risposto, anzi il buon Brownout mi ha bannato dal canale con un "no vuol dire no" e mi ha poi spiegato via mailing list che lo ha fatto perché se nessuno mi risponde vuol dire che non devo più rompere (mah, io questa non l'ho capita: nessuno mi risponde, diversamente da quello che c'è scritto nelle spiegazioni del blocco dove invece si consiglia proprio di rivolgersi via mail agli admin o nel canale o sulla mailing list per chiedere spiegazioni. Della serie tu esegui quanto consigliato, ma dovresti capire che è lecito non rispondere ergo non devi insistere). Sai, c'ero rimasto male perché al di là della decisione di "ban infinito" presa dalla maggioranza (e quasi tutti admin), c'è stato poco per discutere della questione (solo 6 ore infatti anche il tuo commento che, unico tra gli admin, capiva la mia "non pericolosità") era giunto fuori tempo massimo, ma soprattutto perché questi che han deciso, secondo me, non hanno avuto sufficienti elementi per valutare bene la questione. In estrema sintesi.

Antefatto
Bannato 1 volta alla 2a segnalazione per un mese per "liti" (rollback vicendevoli e quant'altro). Capisco talmente bene la lezione che finito il mese e per i sette mesi successivi, mi limito a creare 300 e passa voci e non partecipo a nessuna discussione con alcuno (evito al minimo anche gli interventi fuori dall'ns0). Ergo dimostro di aver capito la lezione.

Fatto
Carico il logo di una manifestazione che forse la conoscono in tre (Giochi mondiali 2009) prendendola dalla de.wiki (mica dal sito "pirati e affini"), ma chi me lo ha fatto fare? Marco27 mi avverte che forse non è "R" (ma chi può dirlo, forse lo è?), io come un deficiente, cretino e quant'altro gli metto la "R" a mano perchè un tempo Sailko mi suggeri sta roba e la cosa la chiesi a Trix il quale mi rispose che questi "trucchetti" non erano leciti, ma poi aggiunse che si guarda meno alla "R" dei loghi che magari alle altre immagini. Io, giuro su Dio, ma in questo non sono stato creduto, capii MALE che lui intendesse si guarda meno alla "R" se posticcia, invece lui intendeva che si guardava mneno alla "R" messa come licenza se non giustificata. Ma qual che è peggio è che: a) buona fede, b) missundestanding alle parole di Trix e c) avevo pure chiesto qui). Ma nessuno ha considerato questi tre fatti. O meglio una volta che avevo capito di aver sbagliato, avevo chiesto scusa e soprattutto avevo giurato di non farlo più, temendo il ban (dato l'amore che gli admin nutrono nei miei confronti), contattavo dicendo queste cose a Tia Solzago che così mi rispondeva (quindi apparentemente accettando le mie scuse). "Infatti i miei messaggi erano per invitarti a prestare più attenzione sulla questione copyright in futuro. Ciao e buon lavoro" Tu ci avresti scommesso un euro che dopo queste parole mi segnalava sancendo automaticamente, come purtroppo è stato, il mio quesi matematico "ban infinito"? Mah, che dire? S'è persino offeso perché ho detto che "mi ero sentito un pò tradito" ;-)

Concludendo
Ormai è chiaro che nessuno, ma nemmeno uno, degli admin è disposto a sostenere le mie ragioni (pensa io volevo chiedere pure lo sblocco, come persino il regolamento prevede). Loro non si azzardano a darsi contro, questo lo sai bene. Tu hai avuto un coraggio da leone, forse anche Cotton e Ing lo avrebbero fatto, certo qualche admin....buono esiste, ma siete una minoranza. Quindi non ti chiedo nulla, ne solidarietà ulteriore, ne aiuti per una revisione, mi piacerebbe solamente che, almeno tu mi rispondessi, dimostrando in questo modo di essere diverso dagli altri, in fondo io, a parte la umana sofferenza che sto provando per il torto subito, non manco di rispetto a nessuno (cosa che invece ha fatto Brownout nei miei confronti), e non capisco perché mi evitano manco fossi la peste. --Kasper2006 (talk) 17:26, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

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Villa Manin
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 * For archival purposes: no copyviol, the site above copied from the (italian) Wikipedia as clarely stated. --Marcok (talk) 13:20, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, ! I looked at the Italian page, and it appears to have several long-standing copyright problems, going back to 2007. I'm not familiar with your copyright procedures there, so I've just tagged it with "Controlcopy". It seems to me that those problems affect the translation you have made. I'm not entirely sure, so I have listed it at WP:Copyright problems for more experienced eyes to look at. I think the best solution may be just to rewrite it directly from the sources (you could include some inline citations at the same time, which the page currently doesn't have). If you want to do that you can do so here. Sorry about this. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:47, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * (moved here from my talk)Hallo Justlettersandnumbers, thank you for your message. Please consider the fact that the english article is a translation from the italian article, as clearly stated in Talk:Villa Manin, so I'm not the original author but only a translator. The translation was kindly requested by Ulflarsen of the norwegian Wikipedia in the talk page of the original article, so that he could translate into norwegian. I visited the link you provided to me http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Italy/Friuli-Venezia_Giulia/Udine/Passariano/photo1406535.htm to see the supposed original source of the copyrighted text, and I noticed immediately that the text begins with "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.", so it is simply a translation from it.wiki made before and it should not be taken in consideration. Please consider also that the italian article was written years ago. However I'm investigating on the anon contributions in the history of the italian article because in it:Villa Manin there is now another banner of suspected copyright violation from a different site (recorded in Internet Archive) https://web.archive.org/web/20040609003626/http://www.villamanincontemporanea.it/html/villa.htm. When I will be enough sure of the exact copyvio amount, I'll report it in Talk:Villa Manin, pinging you, and if I can I'll provide a clean text. If I'll find any *real* copyvio on the current text I'll talk with Ulflarsen to clean also the no.wiki article. Thank you again. --Marcok (talk) 09:46, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry, I should have been clearer that: (1) there's no question that the site tagged by the bot is a Wikipedia mirror, that the bot made a mistake here, and that that is not a problem; (2) there's no doubt in my mind that you translated the Italian page in good faith, not realising that there might be underlying copyright problems there (the flowery language there might have given you a hint, but I do understand that that sort of writing is more common and more acceptable in that wiki than in this one). I'm afraid there's also little doubt in my mind that the Italian page has problems (it was I who put that banner there, with the archived link as proof). What I am in doubt about is the copyright status of your translation; I think it is, unfortunately, tainted, but I'm not entirely sure – and that's why I listed it at WP:CP. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:31, 13 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you Justlettersandnumbers for your sollecitude. As promised I analized all major contributions by both anon & registered users, and the conclusion is that the similitudes are superficial: most of the 21 matches (only very short phrases) are simply proper names, and the only 2 expressions remaining are enough common in italian; it is possible of course that the 2 texts used the same sources, but any other part of the same phrases is very different. So I removed the copyviol banner from the it.wiki article (leaving a similar message in the talk) and I'd like to do the same here (even if I don't know the exact procedure). --Marcok (talk) 12:08, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

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