User talk:MarkH21

New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
Hello , Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to ), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also. Software news: and  have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved. Suggestions:
 * There is much enthusiasm over the low backlog, but remember that the "quality and depth of patrolling are more important than speed".
 * Reminder: an article should not be tagged for any kind of deletion for a minimum of 15 minutes after creation and it is often appropriate to wait an hour or more. (from the NPP tutorial)
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Backlog: Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!


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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
Hello , The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day. won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
 * Backlog
 * 2022 Awards

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from  to  '''

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as and  have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.


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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
Hello , Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by  and  with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of, and also some patches from , has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

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Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Asking for new article
Hi i will ask you, can you check this article please User:Journalistinsaudiarabia/sandbox and give me your opinion to improve this article and put your edits there and thanks Journalistinsaudiarabia (talk) 07:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Replied on User talk:Beland. -- Beland (talk) 07:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Editing Question
I made edits to a wikipedia page for Aaron Cohen-Gadol and some edits were approved but then you removed portions I did not edit were completely removed including a prestigious award and honor - how do I get that back ElianaAmram (talk) 22:57, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Please see the urgent warnings on your talk page about paid editing and conflicts of interest. Wikipedia is also not a place for any kind of promotion. — MarkH21talk 23:01, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry I am new to this process and not being paid for edits just trying to make sure the page reflects accurate data. I'd hate that my updates to indicate a new job removed pertinent information. ElianaAmram (talk) 23:02, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You have no monetary relationship whatsoever with any entity, company, or institution related to Aaron Cohen-Gadol, including The Neurosurgical Atlas or the universities & hospitals he has worked with? Or unpaid relationships of any kind? — MarkH21talk 23:05, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I added a paid disclosure to my user page. In terms of conflict of interest, do I disclose that when I submit my edits? Thank you for your patience as I learn this. ElianaAmram (talk) 23:19, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Replied at User talk:ElianaAmram. — MarkH21talk 23:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Editor experience invitation
Hi MarkH21 :) I'm looking for experienced editors to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 21:27, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Propose change to Hanoi page's info box
Hello,

I found a beautiful photo of the Hanoi skyline over West lake that looks a lot better than the current skyline photo. I would like to make this change. I also think the Huong Temple photo at the bottom looks bad and doesn't represent Hanoi well. I think an alternative is to include a photo of the Tran Quoc Pagoda or the Hanoi Cathedral since it would look better. Please let me know what you think! Thank you! JamesVuBigBrain (talk) 06:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately File:Hanoi_Skyline_over_West Lake.jpg, which you uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, is a copyright violation of a photo owned by National Geographic Partners, LLC. We generally cannot upload and use photos taken like that from other entities without permission. Please see the Wikipedia policy on image use.For the other photo, you can propose a change at Talk:Hanoi. I don't agree that the specific pagoda photo you added is clear though, mainly because the pagoda is not well-framed in the photo. You are still free to propose changes on the talk page though. — MarkH21talk 06:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The Hanoi skyline photo over West Lake is not owned by National Geographic, it's owned by Getty Images and NatGeo used their photos. I'm not entirely familiar with the specifics of it, but aren't Getty Images generally free to use since they are widely available on the internet? Even if they aren't free to use, if I purchase a license and get permission from them, I should be able to use their photos? Please clarify what the policies are. Thanks! JamesVuBigBrain (talk) 04:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Even photos owned by Getty Images have specific licenses. You can no just upload it and claim it is public domain. You need to be very careful with the specific licensing/copyright/ownership and attribute it accurately (if it's even usable on Wikipedia).Again, the relevant Wikipedia image use policy is here. Read it carefully (and the relevant links) before handling images. Once an image passes the image use policy and can be uploaded, there is also the image style guide about when and how to include appropriate images in articles. — MarkH21talk 04:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)