User talk:Maxman

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September 2008
Hello, regarding the Reerow-Xassan article, the relationship with Sheekhaal is subject to frequent dispute, but neither side has ever provided a source for their assertion. Please cite a source for this (besides "widely regarded amongst Somali people") before restoring the statement. Thank you. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

January 2009
Hello, you characterized this edit as "reverted to this version becouse of vandalism." I made the edit in question, and (as I specified in the edit summary) I removed an unattributed sentence, which is not vandalism. If you can cite a source for the text in question, then feel free to restore it. Thank you. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. Please also note that you deleted the interwiki links in the process, and replaced a category link with one that is non-existent. Thanks again, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Please do not add unsourced or original content. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 23:43, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

March 2009
I do not understand your edit to Raaso -- or the reason that is was an "unrelated story". The Shekosh Somalis settled there in 2000 according to several sources -- a simple fact. Plus you changed the spelling of several names to non-standard forms (e.g. "Imi" is far more common of an English transliteration that "Imei") without explanation, or even a mention. If you have a good reason for these edits, I'd like to hear your reasons. -- llywrch (talk) 05:10, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Maxman, thanks for the reply. According to the source I relied on for this edit, the Shekosh are "a Dir sub-clan specialised in Islamic teaching that used to be spread across Somalia and Ethiopia’s Somali Region", but who were forced to establish a homeland in order to be politically represented in the new Ethiopian Federal system. (This is from the UNDP paper I linked to in the article.) This paper states that by settling at Raaso in Mirab Imi, they came into conflict with the local Somali who had already made their home there. If this paper is incorrect in saying this, can you explain further, & perhaps point me to a printed source which explains their place in the Somali clan system? (I don't claim to be an expert; just a guy trying to find reliable sources to match Somali clans with the parts of the Region they belong to, & always willing to admit a mistake & learn.) P.S. When you leave comments on Wikipedia, always put four tildes (these funny-looking dashes ~ ~ ~ ~ ) at their end so your name will appear there. -- llywrch (talk) 22:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Not-Mog picture
You are right it is not Mogadishu. That has been said before and someone (?someone of Somali extraction who has never seen Somalia) insists it is. Your addition to Mog Talk should have been at the bottom of the page (but you say you are new to WP) where the facts are explained which the culturally vain denier refuses to believe. I gave up correcting it and let the nonsense reflect (perhaps unfairly) on the rest of the article. I think the picture is not "stolen" from another African city but is from Malaysia where pictures of similar terrain can be found online.--SilasW (talk) 15:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

December 2009
Please remember to mark your edits as "minor" if (and only if) they genuinely are minor edits. Per Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. The rule of thumb is that only vandalism/test reversions or edits consisting solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes or rearrangement of text without modifying content should be flagged as "minor". -- Gyrofrog (talk) 00:35, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do not add content without citing verifiable and reliable sources. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. User:CambridgeBayWeather has devised an attributed version of the clan trees for several articles. Please see comments at Category talk:Somali clans and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Somalia. Thank you. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 00:35, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Can you at least cite a source for your version of the article? The other version, like it or not, cites a source and is thus in keeping with Wikipedia's verifiability policy.  I believe the idea was to show Sheekhaal's position in the Hawiye hierarchy.  If there is no agreement regarding the content then I would suggest deleting the entire section.  Again, please review the comments at Category talk:Somali clans and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Somalia (if you haven't).  In any case, it is best if you use Talk:Sheekhaal to explain how you think the list may be improved. (And as for being the original creator of the article, you might also want to review WP:OWN.) Thanks again, -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 03:58, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

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Re: "Raaso" and "Raso" are two different and distinct places
Hello, I've left a response at Talk:Raaso. Better, I think, to centralize the discussion in one place, where other interested parties are more likely to see it. Thank you, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:58, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Sheekhaal
Please leave a comment at the articles discussion page when you want to make a change, you just change the population without giving any reason.maxman 23:37, 9 January 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxman (talk • contribs)
 * Hi. The Enrico Cerulli ref was from the colonial period, so it's not a good source for the current Sheekhaal population. It's also very doubtful that the Sheekhaal number over 1 million now, nevermind then. That's probably why the citation was (and is) tagged as unreliable in the first place. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:01, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, and comments about the Sheikhal population, the article refers to the entire Shiekhaal people including those living in Somalia, Kenya and Ethiopia, this also includes the The Qallu and Siddiqs of Ethiopia, surely their populations is more 2 or 3 millions. please provide any data that supports your arguments. maxman 22:02, 10 January 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxman (talk • contribs)
 * The Somali population as a whole in the colonial period (when Enrico Cerulli actually wrote the cited work; it was published in 1959 ) was about the same as what is claimed on the page for just the modern Sheekhaal population; c.f. . In other words, it's almost certainly a figure that was not, in fact, culled from Cerulli's publication. The work was also mislabeled as Texts of the Consuetudinary Law of the Somali, when it's actually titled Texts of the consuetudinary law of the Marréhân Somali and thus focuses on the Marehan, not the Sheekhaal. Even if the figure had been taken from Cerulli's work (who died in 1988, by the way), it would still be grossly out of date for a population figure on the modern Sheekhaal. Either way, the figure needs a reliable source (see WP:PROVEIT); it can't stay tagged forever. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 08:26, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Please do not add unsourced content, as you did to Sheekhaal. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. The cited source says "1.5-2 Million". Either leave the figure alone, or cite a source for your figures. Actually, it may be better to delete the population number altogether, as the existing source is questionable. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:37, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I suggest you also review Vandalism to see what does and does not constitute vandalism. You've incorrectly accused others of vandalism and . (Conversely, repeatedly adding unsourced information is disruptive, and can lead to blocking). -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 17:50, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * OK Maxman, sorry I came across as harsh, just trying to keep an eye out and that pop. figure had been under recent scrutiny. Thanks for the cleanup. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 03:01, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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