User talk:McGeddon/Archive 2

Family First Abortion
So why did you delete it, you could have improve it (its referenced) what would like it to say instead? The in this context is irrelivant as the context of the party being pro life?--203.87.127.18 11:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Xivio
You requested to have the Xivio article removed. I have to stress that this is not logical with all due respect. There is no apparent reason why it was removed originally. This article focuses on the technical achievements of the software platform behind Xivio. It is noted as a formidable player by a verified source and university.

The 3D rendering engine built for Xivio is a significant achievement as it is completely in a scripting environment. How is that not worth mention in Wikipedia?

I have no affiliation with the company that owns the site, nor have I ever.

Tylercraig85 22:15, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Zombie image
I see you deleted the ZombiesRising.jpg that I added to Zombie, saying it was non-illustrative. I spent a good chunk of time trying to find an image that would illustrate this article, but that was the best I could come up with. I don't necessarily disagree with you; it was a weak example. Do you have any suggestions where I could find something more illustrative that isn't copy protected? Travisl 22:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Bang!
Earlier you removed a paragraph, which was about the fact that players should not leave the desk until the game ends and was added by me another couple of months earlier, from this article. In the edit summary you said that the paragraph was "irrelevant-unencyclopaedic" that made you take this action. What was the reason behind your claim? --Deryck C. 02:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the explanation. --Deryck C. 11:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

World War Z
this article is currently under attack as not notable if you've interested in saving Sherzo 09:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Zombie Survival Guide
I listed my evidence in the talk page, and concerning the fact that the evidence of Max's belief in zombies comes straight from the book under dispute itself, I think we should allow it to be called "supposedly fictional".

Urban Undead
I play Urban Undead too! I also play Raven's Vampire game and Starships, (all spinoffs of Kevan's engine, good games tho), I addressed your notability issue on the Starships talk page, I hope you find it acceptable. If not, let me know, I don't want anyone to doubt it's notability. It's a very good game, in my opinion, with enough players that it deserves an article. I'm appalled at some of the other articles about games with far less players, and are basically unknowns. Anyway, let me know if you have any other ideas about improving the article, and thanks again for the assist! Matt Brennen 22:12, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

NetHack
I really don't agree with moving the game messages. They give examples of gameplay situations. Am I overreacting? It hasn't been reverted however. Quatreryukami 02:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

OGame
Just out of curiosity... how did you establish that the article does not satisfy WP:WEB? I realize that the article needs sources to establish that it does but before I bother to add those sources (search Google News... there are lots of articles on this game most of them establishing that the game is the biggest browserbased game in Europe) I would like to know if you are just going to AfD it anyway? Just so I don't waste my time because I understand the system as well as you do. Thanks, MartinDK 09:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

List of free MMORPGs
Hi McGeddon, I agree with your points on Talk:List of free MMORPGs and will gladly collaborate with you on tidying the article up. Catch you on Urban Dead! Marasmusine 18:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

List of free MMORPGs
Hi McGeddon, whole this article Talk:List of free MMORPGs is only the advertisment, including Urban and others, adding one page comments about the game don't make them more usefull then just a link. This article give people chance to find nice free MMORPGs. So if you want to change this page do it, but stop deleting other usefull information! wozniakg


 * Hi McGeddon, I've plugged the table in now. Hi Wozniakg, all the further information about the MMORPGs (including the external link) should be on the individual pages. Wikipedia isn't designed to be used as a web directory! Marasmusine 17:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Bill Bailey
You commented on User talk:82.45.163.4 about a revert you had made. MY revert was due to that anonymous user's assertion that "Unfortunatley Bailey has recived critsism for his inabilty to write his own jokes. He has called upon the help of Alan Car, Eric Prydz (the man behind Pink Floyd) and MC Lars" which is just unsourced drivel! -- JediLofty User 13:21, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You beat me to it with your revert of the finderface link. I was just reverting, citing WP:NOT but your edit beat me to it! --  JediLofty User ¦ Talk 14:34, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

A toothy contention.
Response left on my talk page. DarkSaber2k 15:54, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

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NetHack (hacking game)
I agree with you with regards to the deletion, even though I created the page, it's creation was simply a mechanism to get unrelated/offtopic information out of the main NetHack page. Entro-P 20:44, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Although I did edit it a little I wouldn't have any problem if you deleted it, as being the Developer I don't want so much pre-release traffic, it creates more work.--[mailto:support@nethack.us SilverFox] 23:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

NetHack's ascension screenshot
Hi! You said that my screenshot is not necessary in article about NetHack. I disagree with you. There is not only text about ascension visible here but another kind of tiles, another character class and a lot of different monsters (eg. famous Riders mentioned later in article are there as you can see). And for me not only text in my screenshot is unreadable at thumbnail resolution. I need to enlarge almost all of them to see the text. Maybe i should change screen about prompt "Do you want your possessions identified?" to my screen? This prompt is visible in my game too and I think my screen is much more useful. Sorry for my terrible english, I hope it's posibble to understand me. --yaevin 22:17, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Lenny Loosejocks
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Lenny Loosejocks. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Kc4 16:59, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Jarvis
Dear McGeddon, you mention proudly on your UserPage that you are part of the anti-vandalism unit...why then remove (crop) the photo of Jarvis Cocker? Why deprive the public of the nice looking lookalike, which was a quite humourous juxta-positioning? Jetst, sie sind der Vandal, surely?Rodolph 17:11, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Christopher Hitchens/David Irving
I was actually editing this section as you changed it, it did strike me that it was overlong and not particularly well worded in places. However I don't agree that everything that was removed was needless detail, some explantion of Irving's status as the foremost Holocaust denier in the UK should be mentioned, he isn't some obscure historian and is obviously notorious for holocaust denial and anti-semitism and other racist attitudes (it's not as if possible for Hitchens not to have known this), and this should probably be made more clear since some American readers will be unaware of it. As for it being 'unencyclopedic', I'm not sure what you mean - are you referring to the tone or the way it is written, or the inclusion of the information in any form? If it's the latter, I can't see how the information is unencyclopedic, the fact that a prominent political commentator invites David Irving, a self-confessed Nazi sympathiser and holocaust denier, round to his house for dinner is not an inconsiderable controversy, most people would never dream of having any association with Irving of any kind, let alone invite him for dinner. There should be no suggestion that this indicates that Hitchens may himself have sympathy with holocaust denial (which he plainly dosen't, although he has questioned some aspects of the Holocaust at times) but his friendship with Irving is certainly notable and deserves mention in his biography. MarkB79 11:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Cheers for the reply. I may add something brief to emphasise Irving's status as a very significant figure in Holocaust denial, especially in Britain, but I won't be doing it now. I don't really agree that the source is possibly unreliable or the information not especially noteworthy. It is a blog entry, but it's a blog entry by a well known journalist on the official Financial Times website, and such sources are happily used on Wikipedia (there are dozens of such examples, particuarly from the Guardian's Comment is Free blogs, presumably because these blogs are little different to regular articles on the newspaper's website except that there is a comments box at the bottom of the page), it seems to be private amateur blogs that are not to be used for sources. The journalist in question knows Hitchens personally and has worked with him in the past, and it seems rather unlikely that he's making it up. The Financial Times may find themselves sued shortly if he is. There may well be other sources available by now, I haven't checked, but if not I suspect there will be in the future (it's likely to arouse comment in the U.S. press). I don't think it states that Hitchens says he invited Irving to his home twice, he says a "couple of times" and while "couple" strictly speaking should mean twice, most people use "couple" in this context to mean a unspecified low number (as in "he only did this a couple of times, I'm not sure how many exactly"). He dosen't actually specify one way or the other how many times, so it isn't clear what he meant by a "couple of times", although I don't think it's particuarly important either way. In any case, he does state that he had Irving round to his house, he hasn't merely met up with him at someone else's social gathering. Having prominent Holocaust deniers round to dinner is certainly controversial, especially for a left-wing vocal opponent of fascism, and I think it's more than worthy of mention in Hitchens' biography as it would be for any major political commentator who did the same thing. As I say, it shouldn't give any impression that Hitchens has sympathy with Holocaust denial in the article because this is patently not the case, but I think some readers would be interested to know that Hitchen's has invited Irving to his home, given that most people regard Irving as a vile racist and a Nazi sympathiser and he is very much persona non grata. It is, at the very least, rather unusual that Hitchens would choose to associate with such an individual, and something that I think many readers would be curious to discover. It isn't all that controversial that Hitchens admires some of Irving's work, I believe that plenty of people regard some of Irving's early work very highly, it's after he gave up being a serious historian and began being an apologist for Hitler, a Holocaust denier and a liar that he was discredited. In any case, I'll have a look for some other sources and see if anything else appears on the subject (as far as I known, Hitchens himself has not commented, though it's clear that his conversation with Rachmann was off-the-record and he did not intend this to become public knowledge), the only other mention I have noticed is on the Hitchens Watch website, which is obviously not a reliable source. MarkB79 13:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually you have a point that Hitchens dosen't specify that it's his house the dinner party is held, I initially assumed he did, probably because that's the way it's been interpreted in the blogosphere and Hitchens does hold large social gatherings at his house for various fellow commentators but having read the FT piece again, he dosen't specify, although I think it is perfectly likely that it could be Hitchens' house though this should obviously be confirmed before it's put in the article. The only other thing I can find is on Wikipedia itself, on David Irving's biog, which actually sources one of Hitchens own articles and states that Hitchens claims to have heard Irving recite a racist poem to his daughter in 1994 "after having dinner at his New York apartment", although from the way it's written, it's unclear whether it means Hitchens' or Irving's apartment (either way, it is clear from this that Hitchens has purposefully met up with Irving for dinner at one of their homes and long after Irving had become a full-blown Holocaust denier - this is clearly not the same as bumping into each other at someone else's house, even though Hitchens is clearly making no secret of this and it is now quite a few years back). I'm sceptical that Hitchens was intenting to be humourous when he mentioned "social contacts" with Irving, it's possible but Hitchens certainly did have social contacts with Irving in the early 80's and has never denied it, but this was before Irving had fully embraced Holocaust denial. In any case, I agree actually that the article should not state that Hitchens has invited Irving to his home in recent times unless the FT journalist confirms that's what he did indeed mean. MarkB79 15:11, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Origin of Smarties
The information I added is the same that is on the M&M's page. It is true that I did not site any sources, however I was replacing another non-cited pieces. That piece was not deleted, just a tag added. Why was mine deleted? In fact you replaced MINE with something uncited. This seems to me like you like your idea better and are not willing to part with it.

Finally, I am fairly certain that there are many uncited facts on Wikipedia because many people know about a topic but do not know where they learned it. In this scenario I understand adding a "Citation needed" tag but I do not understand deletion.

Que? 19:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Unsourced quote on Conservapedia
[I noticed just as I was about to stick a tag on the sentence in question that you had removed it] I recommend that you put it on the discussion page just in case it may actually be correct and someone could source it. It is recommended seeing as it could very well be true [Excluding the "...many liberals feel" bit - seeing as that IS POV]. Scar ian Talk  10:06, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Von Daeniken
Dear McG: I restored the number of books he sold, which you deleted. I think it's important info. Regards. --Damifb 22:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Ouch! my mistake then, I'll delete the duplication. Thanks.

--Damifb 23:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Fast guy, u alreadu did it!

--Damifb 23:15, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

And/or Rule
Please follow the rules on this I have explained them to you repeadly, and you fail to follow the Wiki rules.

[edit] “And/or” The construct and/or is usually awkward. In general, where it is important to mark an inclusive or, use “x or y, or both”, rather than “x and/or y”. For an exclusive or, use “either x or y”, and optionally add “but not both”, if it is necessary to stress the exclusivity.

Where more than two possibilities are presented, from which a combination is to be selected, it is even less desirable to use and/or. With two possibilities, at least the intention is clear; but with more than two it may not be (see The Cambridge Guide to English Usage, 2004, p. 38). Instead of “x, y, and/or z”, use an appropriate alternative, such as “one or more of x, y, and z”; “some or all of x, y, and z”. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.87.127.18 (talk • contribs).

Warning Reverting correct And/Or usage/Correct information
Do not revert things just because you dont like it, follow the rules! If you do not agree humans are not fantasy creatures, please discuss in the discussion page!

Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.87.127.18 (talk • contribs).

So you claim a group thats pro life, wouldnt stop abortions, Well by definition, pro life menas they dont want any abortions! If you dont under stand that try going and researching it. So if somthings a liberal policy, u think they dont intend to actually pass it if they could? --203.87.127.18 10:54, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Read up on pro life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Life--203.87.127.18 11:03, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you play magic?
Hey Dude well done on keeping that poofter 203. out magic article its a great article I bet you play the game and are very good at it do you play in the tornaments i bet you have won tornaments ever made finals for states or a GP try out event. My ratings only 1629, 1645 av 1636 whats yours?

Keep up the good work dude!--Ursa&#39;s Son 06:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)