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Ways to improve Tamara Bower
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Thank you for the heads up at TOTD
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Thanks for monitoring the tips. It's nice to know that someone is reading them.

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 * Ah, thanks, that's a nicer way of doing it, this page is getting cluttered faster than I expected. Mehmuffin (talk) 03:11, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

June 2017
Before adding a category to an article, as you did to Norm Macdonald, please make sure that the subject of the article really belongs in the category that you specified according to Wikipedia's categorization guidelines. Categories must also be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories may be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 19:33, 28 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I was operating off of the list of deadpan comedians given as examples on the deadpan page which had over 60 of them in a list, many uncited, and I wasn't sure what the best practice would be, if you could actually clarify this for me now that would be great: what I did was add all the comedians in the list to the category, even though the majority did not have references verifying them being on the list, because I didn't have time to see if their own articles would have had verification that they should be on the list. I assumed that it was better to have them in the category so that anyone editing their own pages could remove them if it was wrong, whereas before someone editing those comedians pages would not have known that they were given as an example on the deadpan page. But I can also go back through now and revert all my edits for which the deadpan page didn't have verification, if minimizing the uncited knowledge would be preferable to uncertain knowledge. I'm relatively new around here and went with the former because it seemed more in line with what I had already seen, but if that was wrong please let me know. Thanks! Mehmuffin (talk) 19:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for explaining and for not getting pissy about my edit. :)
 * I did see the category you created, and was considering nominating it for deletion, as I was concerned that you'd created the category without confirming whether the comedians listed were verifiably considered to be deadpan. Category entries must verifiably be members of those categories, and it seems that we don't have any reliable sources currently classifying Norm Macdonald (and perhaps many of the other comedians in the category) as a "deadpan" comedian in his article right now. The examples which you (appropriately IMO, given deadpan was tagged in 2015) deleted were likely inappropriate as well on the basis of lacking sourcing.
 * My thoughts are as follows, I think:
 * Deadpan should definitely have citations for any comedians listed as examples there.
 * If you want to keep the category, I'd recommend going through and culling anyone for whom their article doesn't mention them being a deadpan comedian.
 * You might consider creating a list article instead or in addition to the category. This would make it easier to keep track of which comedians belong in the category on the basis of having available references.
 * Hope this helps! DonIago (talk) 20:04, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I think I'm going to try going through the forty-odd ones from that list who didn't have a citation and doing a quick google to see what comes up. I'll cull all the unreferenced ones now and then move through them over the rest of the week and check if they really do belong like it turned out Norm did. Thanks for the advice! Mehmuffin (talk) 20:18, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Glad I could help! DonIago (talk) 20:23, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

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Copy edit review
Hi! I quickly reviewed your copy edit of Leeuwarden and was very impressed with your improvements to the prose. I know you're busy on Mister X (I was afraid to do that one!), but when you have time here are my notes:
 * There are a few links to the nl.wikipedia. Links to other-language Wikipedias and sister-projects (known as interwiki links) are a slightly lighter blue.  I believe that the practice is to put a language identifier after links to foreign-language wikis, in this case  which produces:.
 * The first time there was a date with c. I used . (It was already used a lot on the Notable residents list.)  I also put in the  template.
 * lowercase-c for 17th century.
 * a couple curly single-quotes to be straightened MOS:CURLY
 * Measurements should be given in SI and Imperial units. I used  in the Architecture section a couple different ways, as an example of how to use it to hyphenate or abbreviate.
 * Broke the first paragraph in Sport when the subject changes from speed skating to professional football & basketball.
 * '90s → 1990s per MOS:DECADE. The "90's XXL" is a proper name, so left that unchanged.
 * In Notable residents, there's a slight tone issue to say someone is "famous". We already know that they're notable to be included on the list. The way I think of it, the reader should know if the person is famous and not have to be told.
 * The last entry on Notable residents needed an en-dash and to be alphabetized on the list.

There's a lot of little stuff in the Manual of Style, but you'll pick it up as you go. Thanks for your hard work! – Reidgreg (talk) 11:59, 2 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much for the tips ; especially regarding the links to nl wikipedia&mdash;I was confused about this and asked around although not coherently enough to get an answer, so I'm glad to know there is one since that was bugging me. Also especially good to know about all those templates for futute use, convert in particular as I couldn't really tell how it was meant to be used from the article. (mobile edit failed to sign originally woopsie: Mehmuffin (talk) 14:30, 3 August 2017 (UTC))


 * You're welcome! It can be tricky finding some things.  I went through six help pages this morning before I found the template for  to neatly restart a talk page margin like this

I maintain a personal text file of tricks and templates and copyediting how-to. There's no way I could remember all of it, and it's easier than searching if you don't have a good search term.

The Teahouse specializes in a lot of new-user questions, often patiently answering the same questions over and over again (particularly with brand-new editors creating their first articles). I've occassionally dropped in there to answer less-common questions (usually about templates or directing to other areas of the Wiki) but am usually too busy during drive months. I sometimes think the Teahouse's main purpose is to keep these common repeating questions off of the main discussion forums. The Village Pump WP:PUMP is a good place to go for technical questions (they very quickly helped me out with a javascript issue, essentially doing tech support for me), and they've got a directory for other help locations. The reference desk WP:RD is another great resource, I often ask the language desk (or check their archives) when I run into something tricky. And of course, asking on the drive or blitz talk page.

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BTW, of the dozen articles I've reviewed for July, yours had the fewest issues, and very minor ones at that. So again: thanks for the good work! – Reidgreg (talk) 13:07, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * Thanks! I'll be back in a year or three once I've figured out what on earth is happening over on Mister X. Mehmuffin (talk) 15:15, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

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2002 Gujarat riots
It seems you had changed the lead to "cited by many commentators", but problem is that you can't find even a single scholar that doesn't agree that 2002 Gujarat riots were caused by Godhra train burning. That is why, there is no need to attribute it. This has been discussed many times including at Talk:2002_Gujarat_riots. All of the 4 cited sources of that particular sentence also state it as the fact, without hinting any doubt. Capitals00 (talk) 15:57, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
 * &mdash;I meant to make the sentence more authoritative, not call it into question. I read "is cited" as implying a few but not a majority of sources as stating something, so I added "many commentators" to affirm for the reader that it was the main belief. In, I changed "is cited" to "is believed" to make it more authoritative, but you reverted that part of it too, and so I assumed you had taken "believed" to be too strong of a word and added "by many commentators" to maintain "cited" without downplaying that the statement is tantamount to fact.


 * To explain why I think "is believed" presents it more as fact than "is cited": the latter means "mentioned" or "referenced," which suggests passive rather than active support of the statement. Furthermore, because writing rather than people "cite," the assumed agent for "is cited" is a collective of writing whereas the assumed agent of "is believed" is just "people," which to a reader translates into "everyone" or "the majority."


 * This is a tangent but, 1) the quoted portion of ref 10 (Communal Violence, Forced Migration and the State: Gujarat since 2002) makes no sense unless a word is assumed but 2) the quote isn't even from the page cited of the source, and 3) the source is actually arguing (reading onto pg 99) that the regional government incited the violence by labeling the train fire as a terrorist attack, stating that the riots occurred in the aftermath and post-Godhra, but not as a result of Godhra. It might be pertinent to change the quote to something like "Official communications . . . constantly invoked the incident near the train station in the town of Godhra" (pg 97). For clarity: I 100% agree that the article should state that the train burning caused the riots as a fact; and also I am so sorry for the walls of text. Mehmuffin (talk) 17:19, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

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Climate change (moved from Global warming)
A heads up: I saw you changing self-reinforcing feedback back to the technical positive feedback. We've had discussions about that over the last year (scattered around, can't find them back) and there is consensus to not use the confusing technical terms positive and negative feedback, as it has been found from climate communication research that people often believe that positive feedbacks in climate are something good instead of something bad. Femke Nijsse (talk) 18:37, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I really appreciate all your help with the history of discussion on the page! (In particular with such vague terms like balance searching the talk archive is awful.) I've reverted the terminology change but kept the change in the order of them so that it reflects the order they're listed in initially still. Do you think it would be worthwhile to also push the reinforcing/balancing terminology (or at least a mention of it) to the Climate change feedback page, to avoid confusion? Mehmuffin (talk) 18:50, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

No worries. We could change it there as well yes, or at least partially. I do think the problem is less severe on that page as it's more likely to be read by people with more knowledge on the topic. Also, people confused about positive and negative feedbacks from other websites may want a clear explanation on it in climate change feedback. Femke Nijsse (talk) 19:09, 7 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Cool, I've added a parenthetical to the lede there for clarity about the interchangeability of the terms. Mehmuffin (talk) 20:13, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

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