User talk:Moonraker/Archive 9

Caroline Maria Applebee
Thank you for your message about RHS entry. My source was the actual baptism register itself which states 16th May 1787, Caroline Maria daughter of Rev. John and Grace Applebee. I came across it by chance and thought it was useful to have an original source quoted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AllthingsGeorgian (talk • contribs) 08:43, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, AllthingsGeorgian. Is it somewhere online, or do you have the location of the original? By the way, life is easier if you sign your messages with four tildes, like this: ~ . Moonraker (talk) 08:48, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

A copy of the original baptism register is online via FindMyPast, although a subscription is required to access it.AllthingsGeorgian (talk) 10:23, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikigraphists Bootcamp (2018 India)
Greetings,

It is being planned to organize Wikigraphists Bootcamp in India, please fill out the survey form to help the organizers. Your responses will help organizers understand what level of demand there is for the event (how many people in your community think it is important that the event happens). At the end of the day, the participants will turn out to have knowledge to create drawings, illustrations, diagrams, maps, graphs, bar charts etc. and get to know to how to tune the images to meet the QI and FP criteria. For more information and link to survey form, please visit Talk:Wikigraphists Bootcamp (2018 India). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

American School in England
Dear Moonraker,

I work for TASIS The American School in England and I was updating the wrong information that the page was offering to the users.

Please, let me know if you need any proof of this. I can sent you the Ofsted report.

Sincerely, Angel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malozanog (talk • contribs) 10:16, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

I apologize if I erased the information. It will not happen again. I was just trying to update it. Sincerely, Angel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malozanog (talk • contribs) 10:19, 20 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Malozanog. I am perhaps being rather forthright again, but in Wikipedia's terms you have a conflict of interest and really should not be editing the page. It's helpful if you sign your messages with four tildes (like this, ~ ), which adds your name and the time and date. Moonraker (talk) 10:48, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Moonraker,

I understand that it could be a conflict of interest but what is better, update the information or leave outdated? Thank you for your help to clarify this issue.

Sincerely, Angel — Preceding unsigned comment added by talk • contribs) 19:22, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Malozanog, rules are rules, and the unwritten one is "thou shalt not get caught". There's no actual harm in someone who's conflicted adding correct relevant information with a good source, the problem is one of bias. The sin wasn't so much the conflict of interest as the removing of what had gone before, that's where your bias became clear. Moonraker (talk) 08:13, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Anglo-Saxon settlement of Britain
Thank you for the comment! Yes I have been transcribing some eighteenth-century letters relating to my family and they seemed to be a lot less fussy about apostrophes than - well, than me.


 * RoryCunningham, the whole idea of correct spelling was an 18th century invention, and the apostrophe was in its infancy. On the whole, our ancestors were wiser than we are in eschewing it. But we are where we are. Now that even schoolteachers are bad at spelling, relying on the spellcheck gadgets in their laptops and iPads, I guess the possessive apostrophe will slowly fizzle out until it's seen as archaic. And that would be a happy outcome, given the foolishness that invented it. The only thing is, Thomas's shouldn't end up as Thomas... Thomases would be far better. Moonraker (talk) 17:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Cider with Rosie (film)
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Ilona Durigo
Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Sorry that I didn't think sooner of sharing. Love your translation! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for High School of Montreal
Gatoclass (talk) 05:51, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for William Villiers, 2nd Viscount Grandison
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Radio Drama Company
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Blanche Georgiana Vulliamy
Gatoclass (talk) 01:38, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Supporting Indian Wikipedia Program resource distribution
In 2017 - 2018, the Wikimedia Foundation and Google working in close coordination with the Centre for Internet and Society (CIS), Wikimedia India chapter (WMIN) and user groups will pilot a program encouraging Wikipedia communities to create locally relevant and high-quality content in Indian languages. This program (Code name: Project Tiger) will:
 * (a) Support active and experienced Wikipedia editors through the donation of laptops and stipends for internet access and
 * (b) Sponsor a language-based contest that aims to address existing Wikipedia content gaps.

The objective of the program is to provide laptops and internet stipends for existing editors who need support to contribute more actively. 50 basic model Acer Chromebooks and Internet stipends for 100 contributors are available for distribution. Provided resources are the sole property of the beneficiaries and should be used for the betterment of the movement.

If you're an active Wikimedian, and interested to receive support from this project, please apply. It will take around 10 minutes of your time, and will ask descriptive questions about your contribution to Indic Wikimedia projects.


 * Apply at: Supporting Indian Language Wikipedias Program#Apply for support
 * Last date for submitting applications is 11th February 2018, 11:59 IST.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:12, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your welcome message (on my talk page) just now, Moonraker, but note that I have been a member of Wikipedia for quite a few years :-). However, most of my edits have been minor ones - mostly correcting typos and other errors when I spot them. I did read many of the pages you provided links for some time back, but it's always good to keep up to date, and I can also use your message as a handy reference. Phylasnier (talk) 00:05, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 19 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Gerda, many thanks for the Yogo sapphire! Do you have time to review Georg Decker? Moonraker (talk) 15:55, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Seven years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Goodness me,, how time does fly. Moonraker (talk) 03:58, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ... and eight --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:23, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Sadly
I have had to report you to ANI. Do not take this personally. BigSkyMan (talk) 18:22, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Please provide a link to the section. Moonraker (talk) 18:25, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


 * See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Skwornek_(horse). BigSkyMan (talk) 18:27, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I have replied there. Moonraker (talk) 18:29, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Moonraker, thank you for your calm assistance in this matter.  Montanabw (talk) 19:20, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks
Dear Moonraker,

Thankyou for this - I should have done this first. All the best Severnmeadows (talk) 08:53, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Prince Edmund Batthyany-Strattmann
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for George Chichester, 5th Marquess of Donegall
Gatoclass (talk) 00:36, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for The Hatton Garden Job
Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Orange College of Breda
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Project Tiger Writing Contest
In 2017 – 2018, the Wikimedia Foundation and Google working in close coordination with the Centre for Internet and Society (CIS), Wikimedia India Chapter (WMIN) and user groups from India, are piloting a program encouraging Wikipedia communities to create locally relevant and high-quality content in Indian languages. This program will (a) support active and experienced Wikipedia editors through the donation of laptops and stipends for internet access and (b) sponsor a language-based contest that aims to address existing Wikipedia content gaps.

Phase (a) has been completed, during which active contributors were awarded laptops and internet stipends. Phase (b) will be a contest in which editors will come together and develop a writing contest focused on content gaps. Each month three individual prizes will be awarded to each community based on their contribution for the month. The prizes worth 3,000 INR, 2000 INR, and 1,000 INR, will be awarded to the top contributors for each month. The contest started at March 1, 2018, 0:00, and will end at May 31, 2018, 23:59 (IST). Useful links are as follows:


 * Sign up at: Project Tiger Writing Contest/Participants
 * List of the articles can be referred at: Project Tiger Writing Contest/Topics
 * Submit/report your articles/contributions at: https://tools.wmflabs.org/fountain/editathons/project-tiger-2018-en
 * For more details, rules, FAQ etc. kindly refer: Project Tiger Writing Contest

Looking forward your participation, all the best. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk &bull;&#32;mail) at 22:21, 21 March 2018 (UTC).

DYK for Lady Camilla Bloch
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Royal Naval College, Osborne
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Georg Decker
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for William Ruck-Keene
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Florimond de Norville
Hello. Thank you for your help in this article. If you can find more sources too, it would be great. (I will change few little things (like "18th-century" that is obvious). Thanks again :). Cheers
 * , the lady's surname is clearly Florimond, Norville seems to be something added on by claimed land ownership, which I guess is why the suggested father is called bourgeois. "Amelie de Norville" looks like a misunderstanding. Moonraker (talk) 01:12, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Fordyce Academy
Hello! Your submission of Fordyce Academy at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! CeeGee 10:15, 21 April 2018 (UTC) CeeGee 10:15, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carrier
Could've sworn I saw a double pipe in one of the links you left. But if it wasn't there, that's my bad. Just same, do you have sources to support your changes? (I was concerned about that also, but reverted due to the double pipe). If you can add any, or point to existing refs to support your changes, that would help. Thanks - the WOLF  child  04:00, 30 April 2018 (UTC)


 * , really just copy-editing. For instance, the word "foreign" excludes Commonwealth countries. The Premiership of Tony Blair is ipso facto led by Tony Blair. He was an enthusiast for aircraft carriers, I might be able to find a ref. for that. Moonraker (talk) 04:10, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Fordyce Academy
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Man Who Made Husbands Jealous (film)
Hello! Your submission of The Man Who Made Husbands Jealous (film) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:59, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Wendreda
Hello! Your submission of Wendreda at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:35, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Wendreda
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Oaken,, forsooth? Can't help wondering who came up with a silly word like that! Moonraker (talk) 01:39, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for The Man Who Made Husbands Jealous (film)
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Another idiomatic translation, please.
From Franz Seraph von Kohlbrenner: "Er war ein bürgerlicher Schriftsteller, ein thätiger Bürger; eine seltne Kühnheit im Unternehmen und eine nie besiegte Standhaftigkeit im Ausführen zeichneten ihn bey seinen Zeitgenossen aus." - on his tombstone. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:43, 8 May 2018 (UTC)


 * English used to have the word citizen for Bürger, but now that has morphed into someone with a nationality status, and the word bourgeois is connected with social class and not cities. For a single word for Ausführen, there are execution and performance, both rather ambiguous. I suggest plain words: "He was a writer of the city, and active as a city-dweller; he stood out from his fellows by his rare boldness in business and his unsurpassed steadfastness in carrying out that to which he set his hand." Moonraker (talk) 04:21, 9 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Bürgerlich means social class here, vs. nobility - he came from plain circumstances and rose to nobility late in life. Please add it to the article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:02, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Gerda, you live and learn, I have always thought the main meaning of Bürger was city-dweller. I see the dictionary my grandmother gave me when I was eighteen says "citizen, townsman, burgess, burgher, one of the middle class, commoner". The meaning of non-noble is clear enough, until recently the nobility was based in the country and people living in the city had to earn a living. Anyway, let's try to get this right, what is the main meaning of Bürger here, townsman or man of the middle-class? And do you hear bürgerlicher Schriftsteller as middle-class writer or writer of the city? Moonraker (talk) 17:26, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Always learning, and how will I know? Middle-class sounds wrong because that would leave upper class. "Commoner" might be good, but is no word I am familiar with. "Citizen" sounds not bad, but is no adjective. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:56, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Very well, I hate using foreign words in translations, but the way to take the middle road here is to say bourgeois writer, but leave active as a city-dweller. It may be the best we can do. Moonraker (talk) 21:39, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Herbert Edward Holmes à Court
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the information
Hi Moonraker,

many thanks for your pointers, that is very helpful. I'll see if I can find the time to be more precise about it.

Cheers,

Joris Vander Cammen (talk) 10:15, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Constance Savery
Thank you for looking at the Constance Savery article that I began. I am completing the task of replacing American usage with British.

You observed the shortage of citations for much of the article. My original article supported these statements with multiple references to the Savery correspondence in the libraries at Oregon University and the University of Southern Mississippi. These footnotes were stripped out before the article was accepted. I presume this was because such citations were regarded as original research. For example, Savery wrote about the 'very nice mouth' compliment in a letter to Agneta Thomson, 30 Jan 1992. The letter is in the Constance Savery papers at the University of Oregon's Knight Library.

Is there any way that the Savery correspondence can be used in citations?

Anobium625 (talk) 02:45, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi . Sorry to hear about the loss of your citations, but I do understand what was in someone’s mind: first, as you say, the “original research” point, and second, but closely related, the problem of verifiability. Really that’s what’s behind the original research point. It isn’t reasonable to expect someone to visit an archive of manuscripts to verify unpublished information. I guess you could find published sources for much of the article. If not, perhaps you should write the definitive biography! Moonraker (talk) 21:59, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

I have written the definitive biography: Another Lady: A Biography of Constance Savery. It is 100,000 words long, contains over 800 citations, and is based upon the 3,000 family letters and 8,000 diary pages left behind after Savery's death. I may not quote from it, because it is a self-published Amazon Kindle eBook. The diaries remain confidential, but the letters have been digitized, and any particular letter would be available to any scholar who writes to the de Grummond Children's Literature Collection at the University of Southern Mississippi. A visit to Mississippi isn't necessary.

Anobium625 (talk) 04:49, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Then good work, ! I take your point that a self-published biography may not be a reliable source, in an academic sense, although that depends on the full facts. You aren't supposed to publish your own original research on Wikipedia, but if it's already been published somewhere else then it's not quite the same thing. Sooner or later relying directly on original documents would be challenged by some wikignome, but in my humble opinion citations from your ebook would be better than none. Moonraker (talk) 03:19, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll quote from my book while I continue to seek other citations.

Anobium625 (talk) 15:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Franz Seraph von Kohlbrenner
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Bratton House image
I took the liberty of making a straightened copy of your photo of Bratton House. Wire723 (talk) 14:57, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Good work, ! It did strike me as a little wonky. Moonraker (talk) 06:41, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Daisy Burrell
Dear Moonraker,

We have been following your Wikipedia updates regarding Daisy Burrell with interest. My Great Aunt is Daisy's niece and is loving hearing about all of the stage productions and films that she was involved with. We would love to know where you are finding your information and do you have more!!

Kind Regards

FamilyHistorian1 (talk) 11:40, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi,, and thank you for your message. Please see my reply on your talk page. With best wishes, Moonraker (talk) 15:36, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Charsley's Hall
Hi Moonraker, thank you for writing the above article in 2011. you found some interesting information about how private halls operated in the nineteenth century. I intend to add a paragraph about private halls to "Colleges of the University of Oxford", with a link to your article, in due course.81.86.211.166 (talk) 08:49, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi again, I have now set up an account. I think there is a typo in your article on William Henry Charsley: it says he was Master from 1865 to 1891 and then that he founded Charsley's Hall in 1856. I believe that they should both be 1865 as you reference Oxford University Calendar 1866, which lists only 4 undergraduates.TSventon (talk) 09:25, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * It seems to be complicated. Please see your talk page. Moonraker (talk) 22:59, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, there do seem to be two dates. Could you add a reference for becoming Master in 1865 to the William Henry Charsley article? Page 254 of the 1891 edition of Whitaker's Almanac you referenced says that Charsley was elected in 1866 (and Henry Turrell in 1880). Also can I copy this discussion onto the Charsley's Hall talk page?TSventon (talk) 13:50, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

, please do. Moonraker (talk) 15:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

gravestonephotos.com
Hi Moonraker. I just ran across gravestonephotos.com in Kitty Clive, which you added quite a while ago. I'm not sure what to make of it, and am not seeing any noticeboard discussion, so I thought you might recall something about it. --Ronz (talk) 02:50, 9 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, the main thing I remember about that edit is that I had just created a page for St Mary's Church, Twickenham, where as you see Kitty Clive is buried. No doubt you saw the previous edit, too, in which I added a reference from a book about graves. I guess what then took me to the gravestonephotos web site was that I was trying to find the poem which is mentioned... but sadly the public photograph there is very poor. I see you have now asked for a higher quality image. When you get it, do please add the poem to the English Wikipedia page for Kitty Clive and also your new French one. The gravestonephotos webmaster might even release his picture so that you can upload it to Commons. Moonraker (talk) 19:50, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Lady Angela Forbes
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 14 November 2018 (UTC)