User talk:MusaVeneziana

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Ciao Musa Veneziana! In order to insert the article about Charles Sherman to "Sculptors from California" and "21st-century American sculptors" categories you just have to add at the end of the Charles Sherman (artist) page something like this: In this way Charles Sherman will appear automatically within these categories. Moreover, if you press the button "preview" instead of save, you will be able to see the changes to the page before saving (eg. you will see the new categories on the bottom of the page). I hope it is more clear now. Welcome on Wikipedia and happy editing! -- Basilicofresco  (msg) 21:49, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Caro BasilicoFresco, Okay it is very simple! I did it, thank you so much. I find Wikipedia difficult! By the way, if I may be so bold to say, your quotation at the top of your User page is a poor English translation and is, I believe, mistakenly attributed to Galileo. This is the common English translation (the book must have been in German): “The aim of science is not to open the door to infinite wisdom, but to set a limit to infinite error.” It seems that Bertolt Brecht made this assertion in his book about Galileo. Check here: http://www.uj.edu.pl/documents/10172/3618ec6e-9088-4247-a92f-bc9482dc5604 UserMusaVeneziana talk 18:38, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

(Long-overdue) Welcome to Wikipedia! ツ
Dear MusaVeneziana, My name is Patrick, one of the other editors here, and I saw your recent exchange with our friend Basilicofresco. I am quite shocked to discover that nobody has ever thought of welcoming you to Wikipedia since you first started editing here, on 3 August 2013! Please therefore allow me to do so in the next section, however belatedly (!), while also bestowing your first Service Award on you, for your contributions (60+ edits) since then. With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 23:21, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome!
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Again, welcome! Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 23:21, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Request for help with a photo
Dear MusaVeneziana,

Thank you for making contact again, and for asking me to assist with an issue concerning a photo that you uploaded; however, this is not an area in which I am competent enough to advise you. It would therefore be more productive for you to ask an expert, such as our colleague Rob, by describing the situation to him below, in the present section. (Please remember to ping him using the same template I am using immediately below, without which he wouldn't see your request.) Best wishes. With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 09:41, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

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Hey Rob! I hope you are keeping well and safe? All is well here. If/when you have the time, please would you consider helping our colleague MusaVeneziana, with whom I have collaborated in the past on art-related articles? She has uploaded a photo but needs further assistance that she will explain below. Thank you so much for any advice you could offer her, Rob.

With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 09:41, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey guys, how can I help? Robman94 (talk) 14:03, 3 August 2021 (UTC)



Dear Robman94,

Thank you so much for offering to help!

This is a copyright issue for an image I uploaded for a Wikipedia article I was working on, Suzanne Muchnic. I just found out that there is a citation problem with the image, a photograph of a painted portrait of Suzanne Muchnic by a Los Angeles artist, Syvia Shap.

Sylvia Shap painted the portrait and took the photograph of it. I filled out the standard Wikimedia permissions form (this was eight years ago) and she signed it. Sylvia's husband contacted me in 2015 and let me know that she had passed - after an 11-year battle with multiple myeloma.

I can tell you the intention - regarding the permission and copyright. It is the same as with every image I have ever uploaded on Wikimedia. I explained to the artist that anyone can use the image, reproduce it and/or modify it. She agreed to that in her permission. Unfortunately, that intention is not clear - at least to Wikipedia editor Yann.

As I am more than a little rusty regarding Wikimedia (and Wikipedia), I wanted to know if you might tell me exactly what Yann is saying is needed.

I think that one of the licenses needs to be selected - or removed!

Would you please take a look at what Yann wrote here (see below) that he left on the Musa Veneziana Talk page?

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Thanks for uploading File:Suzanne Muchnic 1984 – Mixed Media on Ragboard 25¾" x 40" Private Collection.png. I notice that the file page either doesn't contain enough information about the license or it contains contradictory information about the license, so the copyright status is unclear. If you created this file yourself, then you must provide a valid copyright tag. For example, you can tag it with to release it under the multi-license GFDL plus Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike All-version license or you can tag it with  to release it into the public domain. (See Commons:Copyright tags for the full list of license tags that you can use.)

If you did not create the file yourself or if it is a derivative of another work that is possibly subject to copyright protection, then you must specify where you found it (e.g. usually a link to the web page where you got it), you must provide proof that it has a license that is acceptable for Commons (e.g. usually a link to the terms of use for content from that page), and you must add an appropriate license tag. If you did not create the file yourself and the specific source and license information is not available on the web, you must obtain permission through the OTRS system and follow the procedure described there.

Note that any unsourced or improperly licensed files will be deleted one week after they have been marked as lacking proper information, as described in criteria for deletion. If you have uploaded other files, please confirm that you have provided the proper information for those files, too. If you have any questions about licenses please ask at Commons:Village pump/Copyright or see our help pages. Thank you.

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Rob, clearly, the warning that the image could be deleted was never carried out (thankfully) and it has been a very long time... but I presume that much like me, you do not like errors and would rather not leave it unresolved - and might be willing to help. What do you think needs to be done? Thanks! MusaVeneziana (talk) 04:19, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * When somebody publishes a work under a Creative Commons license, they usually pick one, but in this case, it says that the file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported, 2.5 Generic, 2.0 Generic and 1.0 Generic license. That's probably what he was getting at.  When you contacted Sylvia, I assume you got her to write an email or something to the Wiki folks, do you still have a copy of that email?  If so, did she say which version of the CC license she wished it to be published under?  If not, perhaps we can tell from the text which one is most appropriate (though, to be honest, I don't know what the differences are).  Worst case, we could just pick one. Btw, I found Yann's post here. Robman94 (talk) 12:41, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Dear Rob, Thank you for your swift reply. Here below is a copy of the form. As I wrote above, Sylvia did the painting and took the photograph of it and sadly, she died in 2015. ~ ~ ~

Dear permissions-commons staff,

I hereby affirm that I, Sylvia Shap, am the creator and the sole owner of the exclusive copyright of

Portrait of Suzanne Muchnic from my ArtWorld Women series 1984 Mixed Media on Ragboard        25 3/4" X 40"

As seen on my web site, here:

http://www.sylviashap.com/portraits_artworld/large/sylvia_shap_portrait_suzanne_muchnic.html

and was previously posted on Wikimedia Commons and the Wikipedia entry for Suzanne Muchnic here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanne_Muchnic

I agree to publish the above referenced image of Portrait of Suzanne Muchnic under the free license. I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and the content may or may not be permanently on a Wikimedia project.

Sylvia Shap Artist and creator of Portrait of Suzanne Muchnic

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Her standing was that the image could be used or modified by anyone. If it were to be published as-is, for example in a book, Sylvia Shap would be credited. It would be nice we could insure that the image would stay up. It is perhaps the only mention of this wonderful, now deceased Los Angeles artist on Wikipedia.

Do you know anyone that could read the above and help pick which copyright permissions tag would serve best? Thank you for your kind assistance! MusaVeneziana (talk) 22:56, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I updated the license to CC 2.0. Robman94 (talk) 00:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
Dear MusaVeneziana, Merry Christmas and all very best wishes to you for a Happy New Year in 2022, in good health, joyfulness, and a sense of achievement, including here at the Wiki! With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 10:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, Patrick!
 * A buona Primavera to you! I hope that life is treating you well.  This is a message that I just wrote to someone that left a note on a Talk page.  Perhaps you, in your expertise will respond.  I don't know if they will even see it!
 * Hello, Tuvalkin! It has been a very long time since I have edited something on Wikipedia, or sent anyone a message. Please feel free to delete this after reading! Please forgive my inept mode of communication. I saw your note on the Cast and Characters section of the Wikipedia article for Manifest, the American TV series. In general, Wikipedia is my go-to place to get information quickly. With movies and television series I will also go to IMDB. I wish I had gone to IMDB instead of Wikipedia when the other evening I had a question about an actress that played a character on the series, which I have just started - I am half way through season 1. I looked up a character to learned who the actress was - but was dismayed to see a brief synopsis of a major plot point that was a real spoiler. A quick glance over other characters showed me that many spoilers were included underneath Cast and Characters. I think this is really inappropriate, to include major plot points and spoilers - don't you? At the very least, I think that if editors are determined to include major plot points under Cast and Characters there should be a warning at the top: WARNING: Cast and Characters includes major plot points and spoilers. What do you think, Tuvalkin? Do you get my point? Can you help with this? Thanks! MusaVeneziana(talk) 02:19, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

What do you think, Patrick?

So glad that to hear from you, that you have survived, at least as of last Christmas!


 * MusaVeneziana (talk) 02:31, 12 May 2023 (UTC)