User talk:Never17

A belated welcome![edit]

Here's wishing you a belated welcome to Wikipedia, Never17! I see that you've already been around a while and wanted to thank you for your contributions. Though you seem to have been successful in finding your way around, you may still benefit from following some of the links below, which help editors get the most out of Wikipedia:

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Again, welcome! Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Never17 (talk) 20:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of best-selling music artists[edit]

Hi Never17. Where we can talk about List of best-selling music artists and any other ideas or wiki projects? Paladium (talk) 18:23, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well there's Wikipedia:WikiProject Pop music which generally covers popular music, i'd start there. Never17 (talk) 19:30, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey your account has the required number of edits needed to be extended protected, can't you just make the changes on the page? Never17 (talk) 17:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have enough edits but i prefer that we find a consensus among a group of people. That's why i asked for more people. Paladium (talk) 16:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Never17, made an attempt at a best-selling artist list article at this address User talk:Paladium/List of best-selling music artists How would you update it with the sales estimates of the artists who have sold the most units?

And do you have a web adress we could talk to that is external to Wikipedia? Paladium (talk) 12:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first thing that needs to be done is replacing all of the outdated sources with more recent sources. Since a lot of the claimed figures aren't used anymore, we should look to purge the old claimed sales figures and replace them with new ones. In some cases we can simply add a newer certification alongside the currently used source.

Madonna - 2024 (Hollywood Reporter) - 400 Million, 2024 (Yahoo) - 400 Million

Elton John - 2024 (Yahoo) - 300 Million 2023 (SmoothRadio) - 300 Million

The Beatles - May 2024 (NME) - 500 Million, May 2024 (IheartRadio) - 500 Million

Celine Dion - 2023 (Business Insider) - 230 Million, 2024 (Yahoo) - 230 Million

Queen - 2023 (BBC) - 300 Million records

Tina Turner - 2023 (CBC) - 200 Million records, 2023 (Fox) - 150 Million records

For Bing Crosby we can use the reported number of sales given when he died since he wouldn't have sold very much since then.

Bing Crosby - New York Times - 300 Million, Los Angeles Times - 300 Million

There are also other older artists who are missing sales certifications that have been claimed to sell millions, we could add them as well or at least discuss with editors first before adding them to the page

Cliff Richard - BBC - 250 Million, 2023 (Smooth Radio) - 250 Million

The Jackson 5 - May 2024 (WNDU) - 150 Million, 1984 (New York Times) - 100 Million

There's also the subject of a international artist named Nana Mouskouri, we would need to come to a consensus on them too

Nana Mouskouri - NeoMagazine - 350 Million, UNICEF - 300 Million

We also need to come to a consensus on newer artists like Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Drake. Since streaming distorts their sales figures. Never17 (talk) 19:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A lengthy welcome[edit]

Hi Never17. Welcome to Wikipedia. I see you've been editing for a while not, and hope you don't mind if I share some of my thoughts on starting out as a new editor on Wikipedia: If I could get editors in your situation to follow just one piece of advice, it would be this: Learn Wikipedia by working only on non-contentious topics until you have a feel for the normal editing process and the policies that usually come up when editing casually. You'll find editing to be fun, easy, and rewarding. The rare disputes are resolved quickly and easily in collaboration.

Working on biographical information about living persons is far more difficult. Wikipedia's Biographies of living persons policy requires strict adherence to multiple content policies, and applies to all information about living persons including talk pages.

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If you work from reliable, independent sources, you shouldn't go far wrong. WP:RSP and WP:RSN are helpful in determining if a source is reliable.

If you find yourself in a disagreement with another editor, it's best to discuss the matter on the relevant talk page.

I hope you find some useful information in all this, and welcome again. --Hipal (talk) 17:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Never17 (talk) 17:56, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]