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Re: Zeta Delta Xi
First, let me start with: I am not an admin; I cannot see the deleted article, other than the version you were able to provide, which doesn't show the edit history (or I would suggest attempting to get feedback from the article creator and any major contributor(s)). Second, I believe I looked at when it was at Proposed deletion, but even if I had edited it, I would no longer be able to tell, as the deletion would also have deleted my linked contribution. Third, I look at a lot of Greek organization articles at Prod and Articles for deletion, but they tend to blur together; I look for them here. Fourth, I prefer editing the AfD discussion page, as, even if the article gets deleted, I'll be able to find my participation, but the article didn't get there. Fifth, even as your original may have looked tl;dr, as it involved deletion, and an admin, I felt you deserved a response, and it seemed to me to have gone unanswered longer than it should have, so I empathize with your second post, and I'll apologize for the length of this.

Having looked into this further, Wikipedia:Deletion review directs you to attempt to address it to the deleting admin, User:SarekOfVulcan (Talk), and I've found him to be helpful and reasonable in the past. Since the article was deleted by Prod and not an AfD discussion, you may request Requests for undeletion. There is also Category:Wikipedia administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles, who are unlikely to have put themselves in the category by error, and the article was not the normal attack, copyright violation, hoax, or juvenile humor page admins frequently delete.

I have attempted without success to find additional sourcing to help you, but I will note the following: it is on the university page and therefore verified. Only minimal sourcing should be necesssary to justify a stub article. It is in search engine autosuggestions by the 9th character, and with Brown university by the 12th, but that indicates use, not notabilty. If you have access to membership rosters, the directory listing of names, even Wikipedia article entrants, would not be notable, but a biography which included sufficient university/fraternity coverage would be one reliable source. As an older institution, any coverage of it is likely not online, and university newspaper coverage also wouldn't help, but local coverage might; regardless, either might mention 'was featured/profiled by x magazine/newspaper'. Anything referenced will be verified.

This all seems like a lot of work, since you stated you are not a member; even if you don't act further on it hopefully someone will. If a request for userfication is approved, it would be placed in a sandbox or subpage for you; as long as continued improvement is made, this would be left alone for as much as a year or longer until deleted as a stale draft. Any future coverage may of course be included, but would need to be primarily about the fraternity, or provide sufficient coverage of it. A feature that was half about the fraternity and half about it's charity efforts this year might be sufficient; one of this year's seniors which only mentions it once and then profiles each would not be. Note that once verified by sufficient sourcing, uncontested information from the university, directory of notable members, and basic details like founding from its own sources would be includable. Dru of Id (talk) 22:10, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

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5. Mediterranean Sea

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 * Adriatic Sea
 * Ionian Sea
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You recently made a correction to Singular they, effectively changing Your interpretation does not appear consistent with the author's intention and suggests that you misread the word "or" as being in roman typeface, which it was not. In other words, you understood
 * [use of] "he or she" to
 * "the usage in cases of consistent antecedent-matching".
 * he or she,

but the author wrote
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The sic that you also removed was intended to indicate where Baskervill apparently misquoted Byron. All the original sources I could find with Byron as the author, from 1822 on, give the wording
 * "Every one must judge according to their own feelings"

while various grammarians, published later and possibly copying from an original misquotation by Goold Brown in 1826, give the (apparently incorrect) wording
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Zeta Delta Xi
Looks like there is now a live article for it. Should User talk:Patronanejo/Zeta Delta Xi be deleted as a stale draft? DMacks (talk) 20:36, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

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Please do not spam my talk page unless you know what you're talking about. The In popular culture section was already populated with examples that can only be documented by links to the examples themselves. I added a single example to the list, and was careful to do so to the same standard as the pre-existing list. If you have a problem with such sections perhaps you should have policed it properly instead of blaming it on the final unwitting editor. If you want references added, insert citation needed tags instead of deleting the section altogether. Thank you. Patronanejo (talk) 17:55, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you for editing Repco. I am originally responsible for that part of the article. A part of your addition says "This meant that Buick heads would fit on Oldsmobile blocks, but not vice versa." but as the studs are fixed on the block and the heads have holes, I believe the Oldsmobile heads have extra holes. Isn't it a mistake that it should state "This meant that Oldsmobile heads would fit on Buick blocks, but not vice versa."? Yiba (talk &#124; contribs) 00:57, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

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I was in the middle of doing that I had to switch to desktop view give me five minutes Patronanejo (talk) 17:56, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps using an edit summary would have been a wise move then. Something to take note of for future though, Soompi is not a reliable source, per WP:KO/RS. Please avoid using Soompi in the future and consider replacing the citations you have already used in the article. Alex (talk) 18:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Consider making use of the citation needed tag instead of wholesale reversion—things are already difficult enough in the mobile editor. Patronanejo (talk) 18:20, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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