User talk:Pbrks/Archives/2023

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you. Your second article, EMEA Masters, is a good start! If/when you decide to expand on the article, try not to add too much detail. For example, Ultraliga is a quite a bit overly detailed with standings and brackets -- something that should probably be summarized in a simple championship table by year. Keep up the good work! – Pbrks (t • c) 15:33, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi, you wrongly labeled image File:Piratski_pokret_(Pirate_movement)_NGO_logo.png and non-free
Hi, you wrongly labeled image File:Piratski_pokret_(Pirate_movement)_NGO_logo.png and non-free , I got confirmation in the meantime image IS obviously freely licensed and it could be a mistake on your part, or misuse , please state license of the image as free. Minikola (talk) 01:41, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Why do you think that File:Piratski pokret (Pirate movement) NGO logo.png is not subject to copyright? – Pbrks (t • c) 02:19, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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2017 Speedway World Cup article page
Hi Pbrks, I need your help. You replaced a template on 11 November with a template called 8TeamBracket-4Wa. However this made the raceoff text line disappear. I don't know how to add an extra text line to the template you used in order to bring back the race off info i.e. venue, date an article link. Hope you can help. Many thanks Pyeongchang (talk) 20:00, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello. Thanks for pointing this out. Its an issue with the underlying module Module:Build bracket. I'll get it fixed asap. – Pbrks (t • c) 20:37, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It should be fixed. Let me know if you see any more issues. – Pbrks (t • c) 17:14, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. Pyeongchang (talk) 18:26, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you
Graphics_Lab/Illustration_workshop/Archive/Sep_2022 I was on a wikibreak. Thank you. --evrik (talk) 01:56, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem, thanks! – Pbrks (t • c) 17:16, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Category:Pages using infobox video game player with deprecated parameters
Confused here... Since there are no longer transclusions with deprecated parameters, why shouldn't the category be removed? It is different then when you have unknown parameters which can occur anytime... --  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:59, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello. I removed the speedy deletion tag due to its invalid reasoning. You can tag it again if you believe it should be deleted. – Pbrks (t • c) 16:39, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It's not clear to a patrolling admin what to do with this page. Liz Read! Talk! 01:44, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * , this category can safely be deleted, since I removed the template code that would tag pages with it. All of the deprecated parameters were removed from affected pages, so I moved the template to the next step: removing the parameters and tracking category entirely. Any new invocations of those parameters will cause articles to appear in the template's "unknown parameters" category. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:13, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Faker (gamer)
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Repechage
Hi, how are u doing, we had a long conversation about repechage templates and you helped a lot fixing some issues. Can you fix few more things for me? they didn't exist before but I don't know from when Template:Repechage is automatically set for nowrap=yes and even putting nowrap=n (which works for other templates) doesn't change a thing. Can you add that option? thanks in advance. Sports2021 (talk) 16:08, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi again, not sure if you missed my message here or just busy to answer it. I thought maybe I should send another message. I assume the problem has something to do with this edit. take a look at it whenever you have time, thanks. Sports2021 (talk) 01:40, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello. Yes, I will work on adding an option back. – Pbrks (t • c) 15:31, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You should be able to turn off the wrapping with the parameter no. – Pbrks (t • c) 14:31, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks A LOT, I want to ask one more favour, if you take a look at this screenshot I took from this page you can see the width is not the same in the main bracket and the repechage with exactly the same input. can you make them look similar? I mean the repechage template used to have the same look.r Thanks. Sports2021 (talk) 23:18, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Repechage template
Hi there! I was hoping you could help me with something on Repechage, which uses far more advanced code than I'm familiar with. The only way to get byes to display is by setting "byes" to yes or y. Unfortunately, all of these calls get dumped into a maintenance category, Category:Pages using a team bracket with deprecated syntax - the preferred call is to specify the furthest round a bye can appear. Changing "byes=y" to "byes=1" breaks the template, and shows blank cells. Is there any way you could tweak things on the backend to allow byes to display, while also keeping pages out of the maintenance category? Thanks!!! -fuzzy510 (talk) 08:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi. The error is actually not originating from Repechage, but rather 2TeamBracket, 4TeamBracket, 8TeamBracket, etc. The former uses Module:Build bracket, which allows y, while the others use Module:Team bracket, which prefers n. – Pbrks (t • c) 14:14, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay - if there are no changes made to Repechage, do you have a suggestion for how we can resolve this? Because as I see it, Repechage (and other templates using Modile:Build bracket is causing a split in the template syntax, and it seems much more reasonable to make a change to the template getting 10% of the usage of 2TeamBracket et al, instead of making a change on the much more common template and breaking far more usages. -fuzzy510 (talk) 18:07, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

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Opinion on deletion of individual team call of duty league seasons
Hi, I just thought I'd get your opinion given your history with the individual OWL team season pages whether you think deleting the 4 current individual CDL team season pages is a good idea. There's only currently 4 out of the 48 pages required to cover every teams 4 seasons and I was the page creator of 2 of them, I have no ambition to do more on the topic and think it would be a bit silly to create 44 more pages for a topic im not sure even meets the notability guidelines. Also the 2 other page creators have seemingly stopped making edits for the last 2 years.

Also to be honest I've never properly nominated an article/multiple articles for deletion discussion so if you have any advice on the process I'd appreciate it. Brandon Downes (talk) 04:51, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree with you that it's on the edge as to whether or not the CDL team season articles would pass GNG (as is the case with OWL ones, which is why I have not made any since 2021). I do think that championship seasons could usually pass GNG. In any event, you have a couple of options. You could WP:PROD the article, which would soft delete them, assuming that there are no objections. You could also go through standard the WP:AfD process. Both of these are very easy to initiate with Twinkle, which can be enabled in your preferences. This will give you a dropdown tab that makes it easy to nominate pages for deletion, as well as do other tasks. – Pbrks (t • c) 14:50, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

png -> jpg
Hi, I'm just wondering is there a reason why you are converting PNG files to JPGs?  - Skipple  ☎  20:27, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello. JPGs are preferred for photographic images for a multitude of reasons, the most obvious reason being the file's size. JPGs also produce a more clear picture for thumbnails. For example, see the difference here:


 * However, a PNG version of a photographic image can be useful as an "original", since they are lossless. c:COM:PNG has some good extra information if you are interested. – Pbrks (t • c) 20:44, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Interesting, thanks for the info  - Skipple   ☎  20:54, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Opinion on citing tournament results from ASL
Hi, I was just wondering if this site is a reliable second source for citing tournament results. I just wanted to add a good citation on Bisu participating in Afreeca Star League.Kotand (talk) 11:03, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello. As a source simply to confirm that Bisu is still competing, yes, it is fine. – Pbrks (t • c) 14:18, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Added the citation, thanks. Kotand (talk) 17:35, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Help with trophy section of Valorant Champions Tour
Hi there. I appreciate your willingness to keep said article within Wikipedia's rules. Please could you provide assistance on how to write about the physical attributes and design of the Valorant Champions trophy without appearing, as you put it, "promotional". Trophies are often written about when it comes to sporting events - please see Premier League, League of Legends World Championship. There are no major sources discussing the trophy however I believe it's important for the article due to its prominence, how unique the design is, and its ties to Valorant lore (radianite etc.) Thank you in advance.

PS: do you think it is worth me seeking permission from Riot to use images of these trophies to illustrate them?

daylon124 (talk) 21:18, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello. The difference between the articles you linked and the VCT article is that independent sources have covered those trophies, while the VCT trophy is sourced to, well, the manufacturer of the trophy. If you can find better sources for the VCT trophy, then it would be appropriate to include it in the article. – Pbrks (t • c) 22:59, 8 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply, however the source was used for factual information rather than anything subjective. One cannot have an opinion on whether it was made of 24k gold. WP:PRIMARYNOTBAD. The only secondary source I can find doesn't cover the actual materials or design in the detail that the factual primary source does (see here). What are your thoughts here? daylon124 (talk) 23:46, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Both cones were fabricated using cutting-edge 3D printing techniques is not very neutral, and there is no need to copy-paste their description of it. WP:NOTEVERYTHING is also relevant here. If only primary sources are talking about the subject, it probably doesn't belong on Wikipedia. However, I think primary sources can be used as additional information, to expand on information given by secondary sources. – Pbrks (t • c) 03:50, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

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Help with template
Hi, I was just wondering if you had any idea on how to change Template:World's Strongest Man Contestbox so that the "winner" parameter was under a header similar to how Template:Infobox tournament does it for "current champion" for example on World's Strongest Man. I did try and do it myself (see here) by copying the current champion section from the tournament template to the WSM contestbox however when trying to use it, it only creates the header and doesnt put anything under it.

Sorry if this is out of the scope of your knowdledge (its definitely out of mine) and I've wasted but your time but thanks in advance. Brandon Downes (talk) 19:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello. It should all be set up. You need to use the header# parameter, not the label# parameter. – Pbrks (t • c) 00:56, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much!! Brandon Downes (talk) 03:40, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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Esports national team flag roster
I notice you reverted my edit on the roster for South Korea national esports team. I am aware of MOS:SPORTSFLAG. I reiterate that the usage of the flags is compliant with said guideline.

I'm asking you to consider the following:

Hariboneagle927 (talk) 18:18, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The documentation for Esports national team roster templates states that the flag is for the "associated country of the player's esports team. Not the player's citizenship or nationality."
 * The esports template was based on the FIBA roster header templates (equivalent of the template for national basketball team). As per its documentation the flag (nat field) is for the " nationality of player's club team, e.g. "United States", "Canada", "France", etc. or... the corresponding 3-letter abbr., e.g. "USA", "CAN", "FRA""". Refer to a national team article with a diverse squad (players coming from multiple leagues)
 * Refer to rosters of national teams in other sports, specifically basketball and football.
 * The flags on the esports template refers to the team sporting nationality (which is not usage in a non-sporting sense)
 * In a national team roster, its safe to assume that all players have the sporting nationality linked to the national team. (ie. In the South Korea national esports team, all players are South Korean - no need to indicate a flag while not all of them are necessarily linked to a South Korean non-national team. Some may be part of a esports non-national team that for sporting purposes represent China.
 * I see. The country column is still a bit confusing, imo. I genuinely was unsure if Kanavi was Chinese, but for some reason was playing for South Korea. If I may recommend, expand the tooltip for Ctr. to specify that it is the nationality of player's team. – Pbrks (t • c) 00:01, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Haha, oh yes now looking back I was genuinely confused with it too with the basketball roster template. The football template does it better with the flag beside the club team name. I have access with the esports header so I can tweak this one. Thanks for hearing my points! Hariboneagle927 (talk) 02:24, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries. Thinking more on it, it may be better to set it up so that there is no Ctr. column and, for example, would render under the header Team as " Fennel". I think that way, there is absolutely no confusion as to what the flag is representing here. – Pbrks (t • c) 02:51, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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Draft:Samsung Notes
Hi, I have improved Draft:Samsung Notes which you said needed more sources. I hope it's in good shape now. Thanks. Sparaetys (talk) 01:24, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Error in Template:4TeamBracket-Info
Template:4TeamBracket-Info is getting a duplicate parm error for "RD2". It currently affects 278 articles as seen in Category:Articles using duplicate arguments in template calls. Can you fix it, please? Thanks. Davemck (talk) 03:41, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, should be fixed. – Pbrks (t • c)

Special:WantedTemplates
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Module build bracket
Hello 🙂

Were you able to fix the bracket issue I was having at the helpdesk a couple of weeks back? 🔧 Jq-22 (talk) 14:24, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I think it should be fixed now. – Pbrks (t • c) 20:46, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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Seal not showing
Good day. Any idea why the seal isn't showing at File:New South Wales Teachers Federation logo.svg? --Minorax &laquo;&brvbar;talk&brvbar;&raquo; 05:11, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello. The issue was that transform attributes were specified within the clipPath elements, so when the logo's elements were clipped using the contents inside these clipPath elements, they did not conform to the intended transformation. I moved the transform attribute to the actual paths inside of the clipPath element. – Pbrks (t • c) 15:55, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah ok. Thanks :) --Minorax &laquo;&brvbar;talk&brvbar;&raquo; 02:20, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Good day. Mind taking a look at File:European Club Association logo.svg as well? --Minorax &laquo;&brvbar;talk&brvbar;&raquo; 02:41, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Done. Basically the same issue as last time. transform="translate(-203 -380.36)" was inside of the clipPath element instead of the path element nested inside of it. – Pbrks (t • c) 06:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

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