User talk:Rich Farmbrough/Archive/2011 May

"things that stayed too long"
got another - the article remained like that for almost 6 months until this edit  i was watching it since a few days after it was like that (dont even remember how i got there) and wanted to see how long it would take to be fixed. was hoping a lot longer tbh...--Heardused99 (talk) 03:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you mean ? Rich Farmbrough, 01:05, 25 April 2011 (UTC).


 * Or this ? Rich Farmbrough, 01:07, 25 April 2011 (UTC).

MfD nomination of List of empty monthly maintenance categories
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Cat redirect blanking
Hi Rich. I see that you've recently blanked a number of category redirects. In fact, I noticed because these are now appearing in Database reports/Uncategorized categories. Had this been a single instance, I would have just reverted it as a likely mistake but clearly you're trying to do something and I don't want to get in the way. When you get the chance, let me know what your secret plan is. :-) Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 23:57, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Answered on user's talk page. Rich Farmbrough, 14:29, 2 May 2011 (UTC).

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Sven-Göran Eriksson
Hello Rich. SmackBot has put "Please consider expanding the lead" on Sven-Göran Eriksson but I think it's fine as it is. If I undo the SmackBot change will SmackBot come back and change it again? (Chorleypie (talk) 09:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC))
 * SmackBot did not add the tag, it merely dated it. added the tag (see the diff), so you would probably be best served to take the issue up with him/her. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 09:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh yes! Thanks Jenks, will do(Chorleypie (talk) 13:29, 2 May 2011 (UTC))
 * Thanks Jenks! Rich Farmbrough, 14:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC).

Petroncelli
Hi Rich ;). Could you please take a look here. Some user (i dont say "SP" just because i'm not a check user here and i am a kind guy ;) is still deleting templates. Thanks. ;) --Lucas (talk) 22:05, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * ps: that musician has just two cd in his curricululm (and he's just a player, not the composer), so maybe there are some reason for a deletion proposal. Bye! --Lucas (talk) 22:05, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Template:Wiktionary
Hi, there is currently a bug with the 'Look up x on Wiktionary, the free dictionary,' template. It currently sends you to the upppercase version of the page, which often does not exist and means needless clicking to the lowercase version if the auto-redirect fails to kick in for some reason (see e.g. here). I would try to correct it but I'm afraid I can't make head nor tail of it, but saw that you edited the template in the past, and so was hoping you could help. Thanks.  It Is Me Here   t / c 16:07, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * This only happens on the secure server, and only when the page name is given explicitly. So most pages can be easily fixed - by removing parameter 1 if it is the same as the page name and (but lowercased), but I'm still looking at the template code. Rich Farmbrough, 19:11, 23 April 2011 (UTC).


 * OK fixed, I beleive. Rich Farmbrough, 20:45, 23 April 2011 (UTC).


 * All black magic to me, but thanks for fixing it! :D  It Is Me Here   t / c 13:07, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Question about a template
I was hoping you might be able to teach me about a template. I have noticed recently that template:Geographic location is sporadically placed on articles in different locations. I would like to make the location somewhat static, on the bottom, directly above the Defaultsort like the persondata. The template doesn't seem to specify a standard location though. Do you know where this thing should live on the article? It only seems to be used on about 10, 000 articles. --Kumioko (talk) 23:59, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It is generally is placed at the bottom, I would have thought above navboxes though, since it is arguably part of the article - much like a succession box (do they go before navboxen?). Rich Farmbrough, 18:56, 23 April 2011 (UTC).

Updating infoboxes of Russian localities
Bug report: here, AWB added redundant line |pop_2002census_ref= that broke references (because the reference was already present as |pop_2002census_ref= . I've removed that line. Regards. Materialscientist (talk) 06:56, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Rich Farmbrough, 12:31, 29 March 2011 (UTC).

Category:Articles sourced by IMDB
Category:Articles sourced by IMDB was renamed to Category:Articles sourced by IMDb per a CfD discussion, so Femto Bot should not still be creating monthly cleanup categories under that incorrect name. Thanks! Logan Talk Contributions 15:10, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Same with Category:Articles sourced only by IMDB. Logan Talk Contributions 15:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

[X] copied from User talk:Femto Bot by Femto Bot, (possibly the smallest bot in the world) 15:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * List for new months updated, the April re-creation must have happened because the cat wasn't empty. Rich Farmbrough, 18:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC).

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Question on In Our Time template
Posted at Template talk:In Our Time, just in case you're not watching it. I'd like to make sure all the math related programs have links from the corresponding WP article, most have been done already but I added two that weren't and am still checking the rest.--RDBury (talk) 22:15, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

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Pointless whitespace editing
Please stop this. You have changed nothing. Frietjes (talk) 15:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, yes I know. Rich Farmbrough, 15:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC).

Keith Critchlow article
Hi Rich. For the life of me, I don't understand why the Keith Critchlow article has been nominated by User:NuclearWarfare for deletion. See: Articles for deletion/Keith Critchlow. I have no idea what the OTRS system is. Any ideas? Help? Bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 17:56, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Rich, for your reply. I still don't understand why it's being nominated for deletion. I can't see the back office ticket. And Dr. Critchlow is a well known figure and merits an article. The article's been there for a long time and it's not an orphan. Are you saying that Dr. Critchlow himself can request his article be removed? Is this the case? Why? --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 18:08, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

If Dr. Critchlow himself has requested his article be removed, has anyone verified it's really him requesting it? By phone or postal mail? And why should it be removed because it's requested as such? --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 18:23, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

I see. But there's nothing in the article which isn't factual, publicly known, etc. What possible reason is there for it to be deleted? The birth date? I just don't get it. It's still flagged as an AfD regardless of any "mootness" of the point. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 18:34, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

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Speedy Renaming
Hi Rich. I note that on May 14 you removed for renaming four items from the Cfd Speedy List. However, you only appear to have dealt with three on the item. The item still to be dealt with is the renaming of Category:Israeli sports awards to Category:Israeli sports trophies and awards. Davshul (talk) 09:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Answered on user's talk page. Rich Farmbrough, 12:40, 15 May 2011 (UTC).

Palmadium Cinema
Is this your picture? And if so, when was it taken? According to Cinema Treasures the Palmadium, Palmers Green, closed in 1961 and has been demolished; the one in the picture doesn't have the colors given in the sources on the Palmers Green cinema, but they could have been painted over. I ask because I am trying to assemble the info on John Stanley Coombe Beard, and the Palmers Green cinema was one of his. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:44, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's one of my brother's photographs. You can ask him on User talk:DavidFarmbrough. Rich Farmbrough, 20:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC).


 * Incidentally the central part is an Assembly Hall of the Jehovah's Witnesses in the picture, that and the architecture suggest that stories of demolition may be "greatly exaggerated". Rich Farmbrough, 20:52, 11 May 2011 (UTC).


 * There appears to be a little confusion, this building is in the North Circular, according to the map (174 Bowes road). 292 Green Lanes, Palmers Green is a William Hill bookmakers - not a Tesco. Rich Farmbrough, 21:05, 11 May 2011 (UTC).


 * OK, thanks. It did look a bit wrong for the date, but Google didn't turn up clear evidence of a second establishment called the Palmadium. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * My parents or grandparents would have been able say for certain. I can ask my aunt. Rich Farmbrough, 22:48, 11 May 2011 (UTC).


 * The photograph is of the Enfield Ritz, (later 1970-1974 the ABC). Rich Farmbrough, 21:08, 12 May 2011 (UTC).


 * Ah, many thanks. So I haven't lost my touch - that looked like full-on 1930s to me and is indeed 1933. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:47, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Alcoholism article question
I'm working on updating the open tasks list on the systemic bias project. You mentioned that Alcoholism had a North American bias. Has that long since been edited (mostly) away or am I missing the obvious? Thanks Cloveapple (talk) 16:17, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes mostly! It should still touch on the alcohol problems in post-communist Russia, and the treatment, self-help and diagnosis have a Western bent, but nothing like what it was 5 years ago. Rich Farmbrough, 16:42, 13 May 2011 (UTC).


 * Thanks for checking. Mind if I quote you on that? (Otherwise, if you'd prefer to update that comment yourself, it's in the review subsection of the developing world section.) Cloveapple (talk) 13:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Feel free. Rich Farmbrough, 13:23, 15 May 2011 (UTC).

Art museum
Beware of vandalism. Materialscientist (talk) 04:10, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm interesting. I was just thinking about automatic taxonomic and syntactic vandalism detection. Rich Farmbrough, 12:17, 14 May 2011 (UTC).


 * Would be great if you could design something, and I would be glad to help here - vandalism diverts me from writing and maintenance. User:ClueBot NG has been enormously helpful recently, but it is not always on-line and has its limitations. Materialscientist (talk) 12:25, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem is quite hard, although some ontology checking could be done fairly easily on the category level I doubt that that is a significant percentage of vandalism. Rich Farmbrough, 14:14, 15 May 2011 (UTC).

Pimp tenure
How many more line refs do you want??? I think the article is very well referenced. Please consider removing your improve tag. I genuinely can't see what more can be written on this topic, there is simply a paucity of sources.(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 12:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC))
 * The article looks well sourced to me, and I have removed the tag. Note that SmackBot merely dated the "verify/refimprove" tag, and note also that you are quite at liberty to remove such tags if you believe the issue has been addressed. Rich Farmbrough, 13:26, 15 May 2011 (UTC).

"This looks like an intended part of "how to create/use an infobox tempalte" therefore no speedy for now"
Huh? It's clearly a new editor that doesn't understand that he should experiment in the sandbox or his own userspace. The name is "Sample infobox" after all. How can you claim it is anything other than a test edit misplaced out of ignorance? -- DanielPenfield (talk) 13:45, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * If it was "test infobox" I would agree. To me "sample" is a completely different thing.  And yes you are probably right, but regardless it is not a good start for someone to have their work destroyed in a few minutes, even if they are just establishing principles.  Also developing templates in user-space, while not incredibly hard, is not as obvious as in template space (and with complex templates with sub-pages does become tricky). Give the guy a day or so, it's not like this is visible to users. Rich Farmbrough, 14:12, 15 May 2011 (UTC).

SmackBot and line breaks in infoboxes
Hi, SmackBot removes the line break between  and   as seen here, here, and  here. I guess this isn't intentional? Not all infoboxes are affected and it's not really a big deal, but it look better with every parameter on a new line. Cheers, jonkerz♠ 23:07, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I do so agree! thanks for letting me know will investigate tomorrow. Rich Farmbrough, 23:12, 23 May 2011 (UTC).


 * Fixed, build p612. Rich Farmbrough, 23:25, 23 May 2011 (UTC).


 * Thanks! jonkerz♠ 23:33, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Follow-up
FYI, the Santorum article we discussed at the meet-up is currently a topic of discussion on wikien-l, if you're interested. and following. Cheers, -- JN 466  15:32, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Abigail Tartellin
Rich,

Nominated the above article for deletion. Think I got the 'reason' wrong though and prod was removed six minutes later by the venerable Hullaballoo WOlfowitz. Can you advise how to nom this properly? --82.41.20.82 (talk) 21:15, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * looks like it was deleted. Rich Farmbrough, 08:00, 25 May 2011 (UTC).

DYK for Henry Walton Ellis
The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

SmackBot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Habiger Hi Rich: The subject of this article asked me if I could rewrite it to address the three flags added by SmackBot in at 18:04 16 April 2011, namely Advert, Notability, Cat improve. I've rewritten the article, condensing duplication and rewriting sections in a more neutral point of view. I've added categories and edited citation links to go to more direct sources (many were to a Youtube archive channel his company set up). It's a stronger article now. I've listed these changes in the Talk page. Is it enough to be deflagged or is there more I should do and/or someplace else to ask? TIA Martin kelley (talk) 20:52, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Answered on user's talk page. Rich Farmbrough, 23:31, 25 May 2011 (UTC).
 * ✅ Answered on user's talk page. Rich Farmbrough, 23:31, 25 May 2011 (UTC).