User talk:Robert McClenon/Archive 5

Please comment on Talk:Sasanian Empire
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Gun control arbitration case notice
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gun control. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gun control/Evidence. Please add your evidence by January 19, 2014, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gun control/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Bbb23 (talk) 19:25, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you ...
... for your thoughtful reply to my earlier questions. I was called away in December on personal matters, and am returning to work tomorrow. I will respond more fully to your replies soon. Cheers, and happy holidays. LeProf

Gun control workshop statement
You wrote: "Articles concerning control, broadly defined, are placed under standard Discretionary sanctions." At least, that is how it appears on the screen. I see that you wrote the word "gun" in the "code" (or whatever the correct term is), but because of the way you did the link, the word "gun" is not visible. Is that what you meant to do? Neutron (talk) 01:09, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for Janaury 2014
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked mostly minor features and fixing bugs. A few significant bugs include working around a bug in CSSJanus that was wrongly flipping images used in some templates in right-to-left (RTL) environments (bug 50910) a major bug that meant inserting any template or other transclusion failed (bug 59002), a major but quickly resolved problem due to an unannounced change in MediaWiki core, which caused VisualEditor to crash on trying to save (bug 59867). This last bugs did not appear on any Wikipedia. Additionally, significant work has been done in the background to make VisualEditor work as an independent editing system.

As of today, VisualEditor is now available as an opt-out feature to all users at 149 active Wikipedias.


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 * You can now edit some of the page settings in the "options" dialog –    and   as selection (forced on, forced off, or default setting; bugs 56866 and 56867) and   as a checkbox (bug 57166).
 * The automated browser tests were adjusted to speed them up and bind more correctly to list items in lists, and updated to a newer version of their ruby dependencies. You can monitor the automated browser tests' results (triggered every twelve hours) live on the server.
 * VisualEditor/User guide was updated recently to show some new and upcoming features.

Looking ahead: The character formatting menu on the toolbar will get a drop-down indicator next Thursday. The reference and media items will be the first two listed in the Insert menu. The help menu will get a page listing the keyboard shortcuts. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including support for alignment (left, right, and center) and better control over image size (including default and upright sizes). The developers are also working on support for editing redirects and image galleries.

Subscriptions to this newsletter are managed at VisualEditor/Newsletter. Please add or remove your name to change your subscription settings. If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 20:06, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:International Lyme And Associated Diseases Society
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MilesMoney is community banned
Which means he is quite unlikely to respond regarding the Austrian Economics issues. Collect (talk) 01:59, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/Austrian economics opened
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Arbitration/Requests/Case/Austrian economics. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Arbitration/Requests/Case/Austrian economics/Evidence. Please add your evidence by February 8, 2014, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Arbitration/Requests/Case/Austrian economics/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 01:49, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Content issue; criticisms of relativity; dispute resolution
Hi, You asked in my "help desk" entry if it was a content dispute, but my plea for help was shut down before I could answer, just as the dispute resolution process was shut down without resolution. Yes, my efforts to edit were about content, though Paradoctor and DVdm insisted on making it about me, as a full-on ad hominem attack full of insults about my supposed ignorance. True ignorance is believing that a 20 foot pole will fit into a 10 foot barn, based on relativity's version of idealism in denial of realism*... *that physical objects do not physically shrink due to the frame of reference from which they are observed. (It is not about "rotation," as as the supposed "shrinkage" is in the direction of travel of either the observer or the object.  I asked that the word "apparent" be included in the length contraction article distinguishing apparent contraction from physical contraction. Even that minimal "disambiguation" was not allowed, because mainstream SR insists that there is no difference between physical and apparent contraction. I don't know where to take it from here. Any suggestions? If so, thanks ahead. LCcritic (talk) 18:31, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Robert Spitzer (political scientist)
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Please see
User:Smallbones/Questions on FTC rules Smallbones( smalltalk ) 03:16, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * perhaps you might want to read [my comments on the relevant talk page  DGG ( talk ) 18:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Apparent vs physical re length contraction IS a content dispute
The section title says it. I was not allowed to put the word "apparent" in the length contraction article lead. More generally, the widespread criticism of relativity that there is a more or less stable (unchanging) physical world even as observations and measurements of given parts thereof would vary drastically with frame of reference according to relativity theory. This realism vs idealism philosophical criticism is not allowed, because all who so criticize are called "fringe," "cranks," "not mainstream," etc. LCcritic (talk) 20:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)


 * So, you were supposed to be on the board for conflict resolution pertaining to content. Yet you will not respond to my above appeal. Apparent vs physical is a content issue vis-a-vis length contraction. The encyclopedia should clarify whether special relativity claims that physical objects shrink or whether it is just a frame/observer-dependent phenomenon. This is about disambiguation for clarity of presentation for the benefit of the Wiki reader seeking to understand SR. Please address the issue for the sake of clarityLCcritic (talk) 08:08, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion for Kentaro Sato
Greetings: I'm the nominator for deletion of article Kentaro Sato. My reasons for doing so were stated at this page which you have visited and where you have cast a vote favoring deletion. I felt it was my responsibility to make sure we don't delete a valuable WP article if there is any chance the subject is notable. So I carried out a quick web search and collected what I've found at the article's talk page. Since you have taken part and voted in the recent process could you take a look at the data I've gathered and let me know what you think and if that changes your position. I appreciate your help. Thanks. Contact Basemetal here 05:43, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions
Before you comment further at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions/2013 review you should be aware that two users who commented on the thread where you commented have just been blocked. Cheers, —Neotarf (talk) 07:40, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:List of countries where Arabic is an official language
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Rfc against me
Thanks for taking the time to comment on the Rfc against me. I think your comments are broadly fair.

Given the seriousness of the allegation made against me, I think its fair to point out a couple of things for clarity.

I have not asked anyone to change their username or signature. The suggestion that FIM's username might be hubristic did not come from me but from someone else. I had not even considered it (had I, I'd probably agree with your reading of it). I have not launched an Rfc against anyone for any reason either now or in the past.

More seriously, I have been accused of changing my signature to something overtly misogynistic as a direct personal attack on two female users with whom I have a disagreement. That is a demonstrably false, deeply hurtful and potentially very damaging accusation. Many of my personal and professional contacts are aware of my contributions on Wikipedia and this accusation, were it to go unanswered might escape into the outside world with very real consequenses for me and my family.

My sig may well be puerile and silly, but it is entirely innocent of any malice towards anyone. Devils In Skirts! (talk) 08:28, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor Newsletter—February 2014
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some small changes to the user interface, such as moving the reference item to the top of the Insert menu, as well as some minor features and fixing bugs, especially for rich copying and pasting of references.

The biggest change was the addition of more features to the image dialog, including the ability to set alignment (left, right, center), framing options (thumbnail, frame, frameless, and none), adding alt text, and defining the size manually. There is still some work to be done here, including a quick way to set the default size.


 * The main priority is redesigning the reference dialog, with the goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs and URLs and streamlining the process. Current concept drawings are available at VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.
 * A few bugs in the existing reference dialog were fixed. The toolbar was simplified to remove galleries and lists from the reference dialog.  When you re-use references, it now correctly displays the references again, rather than just the number and name.  If you paste content into a dialog that can't fit there (e.g.   in references), it now strips out the inappropriate HTML.
 * You can now edit image galleries inside VisualEditor. At this time, the gallery tool is a very limited option that gives you access to the wikitext.  It will see significant improvements at a later date.
 * The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu is being redesigned. Your feedback on the special character inserter is still wanted, especially if you depend on Wikipedia's character inserters for your normal editing rather than using the ones built into your computer.
 * You can now see a help page about keyboard shortcuts in the page menu (three bars next to the Cancel button).
 * If you edit categories, your changes will now display correctly after saving the page.
 * Saving the page should be faster now.
 * Any community can ask to test a new tool to edit TemplateData by leaving a note at.

Looking ahead: The link tool will tell you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. The warning about wikitext will hide itself after you remove the wikitext markup in that paragraph. Support for creating and editing redirects is in the pipeline. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including default and upright sizes. The developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments, some behavioral magic words like DISPLAYTITLE, and in-line language setting.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 04:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Your comment against me at WP:AN/ANI
"he used two more chances to spit at the community." Absolute bull. Demagogue much? I never socked at all. Everybody knows a sock is an undisclosed alternate account used in a deceptive manner. I never did that. When even my talkpage was cut off to me, most recently on a transparently false charge of WP:CANVASSING when anybody who reads that policy and compares it to my actions sees there's no violation, I block evaded via raw IP clearly identifying my account. That's not socking. It's a perversion of language to say that that is socking. I can guess you can place made-up characterizations at the RFC/U that I have a "primary account" and "alternate account" when I consistently and honestly report from edit #1 that I am a single account user that abandoned a single prior account for privacy reasons. But you really go too far with this disgusting and manipulative "spit at the community" demagoguery. Save it for when you run for political office, would you? This is Colton Cosmic.


 * He does have a point he is block evading. Also you are wasting your time with a SPI. Checkuser's will not connect an IP to a named account and they will block the ip whereupon CC will get a new IP. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 17:32, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Soviet Union
Robert, what's going on? Why do you insist on misrepresenting my argument, even after I had explained my position to you? --Nug (talk) 10:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Some more help on Verizon Communications?
Hi Robert McClenon, I'm hoping you might be able to help me with another edit to the Verizon Communications article. This is quite a big edit, in that I've redrafted the "History" section of the article. I've posted a note over at Talk:Verizon Communications with some comments about what I've done in my new draft, which you can find in my userspace. If you have time, do you think you might be able to take a look and see about moving this new "History" section into the article?

Thanks so much, VZBob (talk) 17:47, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi again Robert McClenon, I'm following up with you to see if you think you might be able to help with looking at this draft and placing it? I realize it's quite long, and I'm happy to work through it section by section if that seems easier to you.

Thanks so much, VZBob (talk) 18:40, 14 March 2014 (UTC)


 * This has been done. VZBob (talk) 18:46, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics
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Discretionary sanctions 2013 review: Draft v3
Hi. You have commented on Draft v1 or v2 in the Arbitration Committee's 2013 review of the discretionary sanctions system. I thought you'd like to know Draft v3 has now been posted to the main review page. You are very welcome to comment on it on the review talk page. Regards, AGK  [•] 00:16, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Why so unresponsive?
Hello Robert, since you ended my recent ANI request and then took the discussion to my talk page, i wonder why you do not respond to my questions there? Prokaryotes (talk) 00:57, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter—March 2014
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on changes to the template and image dialogs.

The biggest change in the last few weeks was the redesign of the template dialog. The template dialog now opens in a simplified mode that lists parameters and their descriptions. (The complex multi-item transclusion mode can be reached by clicking on "Show options" from inside the simplified template dialog.) Template parameters now have a bigger, auto-sizing input box for easier editing. With today's update, searching for template parameters will become case-insensitive, and required template parameters will display an asterisk (*) next to their edit boxes. In addition to making it quicker and easier to see everything when you edit typical templates, this work was necessary to prepare for the forthcoming simplified citation dialog. The main priority in the coming weeks is building this new citation dialog, with the ultimate goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs, URLs, DOIs and other quick-fills. This will add a new button on the toolbar, with the citation templates available picked by each wiki's community. Concept drawings can be seen at VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.


 * The link tool now tells you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. Pages that exist, but are not indexed by the search engine, are treated like non-existent pages.
 * Wikitext warnings will now hide when you remove wikitext from the paragraph you are editing.
 * The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu has been slightly redesigned, to introduce larger buttons. Your suggestions for more significant changes to the special character inserter are still wanted.
 * The page options menu (three bars, next to the Cancel button) has expanded. You can create and edit redirect pages, set page options like ,   and   , and more.  New keyboard shortcuts are listed there, and include undoing the last action, clearing formatting, and showing the shortcut help window.  If you switch from VisualEditor to wikitext editing, your edit will now be tagged.
 * It is easier to edit images. There are more options and they are explained better.  If you add new images to pages, they will also be default size.  You can now set image sizes to the default, if another size was previously specified. Full support for upright sizing systems, which more readily adapt image sizes to the reader's screen size, is planned.
 * VisualEditor adds fake blank lines so you can put your cursor there. These "slugs" are now smaller than normal blank lines, and are animated to be different from actual blank lines.
 * You can use the Ctrl or Command shortcuts to open the save window, and you can preview your edit summary when checking your changes in the save window.
 * After community requests, VisualEditor has been deployed to the Interlingual Occidental Wikipedia, the Portuguese Wikibooks, and the French Wikiversity.
 * Any community can ask for custom icons for their language in the character formatting menu (bold, italic, etc.) by making a request on Bugzilla or by contacting Product Manager James Forrester.

The developers apologize for a regression bug with the deployment on 6 March 2014, which caused the incorrect removal of  size definitions on a handful of pages on the English Wikipedia, among others. The root cause was fixed, and the broken pages were fixed soon after.

Looking ahead: Several template dialogs will become more compact. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. You will be able to see the Table of Contents change live as you edit the page, rather than it being hidden. In-line language setting may be offered to a few Wikipedias soon.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on 19 April 2014 at 2000 UTC. Thank you! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Supreme Council of Crimea
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AfD
Hi Robert. Prehaps you'd like to also nominate the following for deletion too:

Modern pentathletes
Edmond Bernhardt, Theodor Zeilau, Johannes Ussing, Vilhelm Laybourn, Kai Jølver, Carl Pauen, Ralph Clilverd, Henrik Norby, Carl Aejemelaeus, Weli Hohenthal, Aarno Almqvist, Oskar Wilkman Johan Skjoldager, Harry Bjørnholm, Ejner Augsburg, Jean Mondielli, Henri Candelon, René Foucher, Georges Brulé, Edward Gedge, Edward Clarke (pentathlete), Adriano Lanza, Arne Tellefsen, Bengt Uggla, Erik de Laval Jules Hulsmans, Jacques De Wykerslooth De Rooyesteyn, J. L. M. Van Loocke, Léopold Buffin de Chosal, Jindřich Lepiere, Karel Tůma, Marius Christensen, Emil Hagelberg, Guillaume de Tournemire, René Dignon, Ivan Duranthon, Frederick Barton (pentathlete), George Vokins, Gaspare Pasta, Giuseppe Micheli, Ernesto Corradi, Omero Chiesa, Barent Momma, Carolus Stoffels, Leif Knudtzon, Olliver Smith, Carl Årmann, Frederick Pitts, Don Scott (athlete), George Bare Charles Cumont, Charles Vannerom, Édouard Écuyer de le Court, Kamil Gampe, Josef Schejbal, Rudolf Růžička, Otto Olsen (pentathlete), Helge Jensen, Tauno Lampola, Henrik Avellan, André Crémon, Pierre Coche, Charles-Jean LeVavasseur, Hermann Hölter, Helmuth Kahl, Lance East, Alfred Goodwin (pentathlete), David Turquand-Young, Tivadar Filótás, Carlo Simonetti, Luigi Petrillo, Eugenio Pagnini, Tjeerd Pasma, Willem van Rhijn, Christiaan Tonnet, Franciszek Koprowski, Stefan Szelestowski, Zenon Małłysko, Ingvar Berg, Richard Mayo (pentathlete) Helmuth Naudé, Konrad Miersch, Willi Remer, Jeffrey MacDougall, Vernon Barlow, Percy Legard, Francesco Pacini, Humberto Anguiano, José Morales (pentathlete), Miguel Ortega, Rafael Afonso de Sousa, Clayton Mansfield, Brookner Brady Alfred Guth, Jan Scheere, Raoul Mollet, Anísio da Rocha, Rui Duarte (pentathlete), Guilherme Catramby Filho, Ukko Hietala, Aaro Kiviperä, Paul Lavanga, Béchir Bouazzat, André Chrétien, Herbert Bramfeld, Hermann Lemp (pentathlete), Archibald Jack (pentathlete), Alexandros Baltatzis-Mavrokorlatis, Lajos von Sipeki-von Balás, Nándor von Orbán, Franco Orgera, Ugo Ceccarelli, Luis Casíllas, Johannes van der Horst, Josephus Serré, Alexander van Geen, José Escribens, Ebbe Gyllenstierna, Georg von Boisman, Willy Grundbacher, Karl Wyss, Alfred Starbird Horacio Siburu, Augusto Premoli, Enrique Wirth, Charles Vyt, Louis Fauconnier, Humberto Bedford, Aloysio Borges, Aëcio Coelho, Hernán Fuentes, Nilo Floody, Otto Jemelka, Christian Palant, Louis Pichon, André Lacroix (pentathlete), Geoffrey Brooke, Jack Lumsden, Albert Martin (pentathlete), László Karácson, Frigyes Hegedűs, Duilio Brignetti, Roberto Curcio, Giulio Palmonella, Ricardo García (pentathlete), Alejandro Quiroz, Manuel Bernabeu, José Luis Riera, Alberto Moreiras (pentathlete), Sune Wehlin, Werner Schmid, Franz Hegner, Bruno Riem, Hale Baugh, Richard Gruenther, Ruben Orozco, Carlos Mercader, Alberto Ortíz Olavi Rokka, Jorge Cáceres (pentathlete), Carlos Velázquez (pentathlete), Luis Ribera, Francis Plumerel, Eric Marques, Eduardo de Medeiros, Luis Carmona, Bertrand de Montaudoin, Adolf Harder, Dietloff Kapp, Berthold Slupik, Jervis Percy, John Hewitt (pentathlete), Leon Lumsdaine, Alfonso Marotta, David Romero (pentathlete), António Jonet, José Pereira (pentathlete), Ricardo Durão, Harry Schmidt (pentathlete), Aleksandr Dekhayev, Pavel Rakityansky, Erhard Minder, Werner Vetterli, Guy Troy, Thad McArthur, Frederick Denman, Lem Martínez, Américo González (pentathlete) George Nicoll, Sven Coomer, Neville Sayers, Nilo da Silva, Wenceslau Malta, Salvio Lemos, Héctor Carmona, Gerardo Cortes, Sr., Vladimír Černý, Jean-Claude Hamel (pentathlete), George Norman (pentathlete), Thomas Hudson (pentathlete), Donald Cobley, Antal Moldrich, János Bódy, Adriano Facchini (pentathlete), Victor Teodorescu, Dumitru Ţintea, Cornel Vena, Marthinus du Plessis, Okkie van Greunen, Björn Thofelt Raúl Bauza, Carlos Stricker, Hugh Doherty (pentathlete), Arsène Pint, José Wilson, Justo Botelho, Benny Schmidt, Eero Lohi, Étienne Jalenques, Christian Beauvalet, André Bernard (pentathlete), Dieter Krickow, Wolfgang Gödicke, Peter Little (pentathlete), Patrick Harvey (pentathlete), Giulio Giunta, Gaetano Scala, Shigeaki Uchino, Kazuhiro Tanaka (pentathlete), Naji El-Mekki, Mohamed Ben Checkroun, Kazimierz Mazur, Kazimierz Paszkiewicz, Stanisław Przybylski, Fernando Irayzoz, Joaquín Villalba, Sture Ericson (pentathlete), Per-Erik Ritzén, Rolf Weber, Ahmed Ennachi, Habib Ben Azzabi, Lakdar Bouzid Donald McMiken, Jorma Hotanen, Kari Kaaja, Keijo Vanhala, Elmar Frings, Uwe Adler, Robert Phelps (pentathlete), Benjamin Finnis, Alfonso Ottaviani, Shigeki Mino, Yoshihide Fukutome, Enrique Padilla (pentathlete), Eduardo Florez, Choi Gwi-Seung, Rolf Junefelt, Bo Jansson Wolfgang Leu, Siegfried Springer, Wolf-Dietrich Sonnleitner, Ivan Apostolov (pentathlete), Konstantin Sardzhev, Antoni Panyovski, Pavel Kupka, Jørn Steffensen, Wolfgang Lüderitz, Jörg Tscherner, Karl-Heinz Kutschke, Seppo Aho, Barry Lillywhite, Nicolo Deligia, Giancarlo Morresi, Mario Medda, Toshio Fukui, Katsuaki Tashiro, Yuso Makihira, Eduardo Tovar, Eduardo Olivera, Alex Tschui, Tom Lough, Hans Jürgen Todt, Heiner Thade Robert Barrie (pentathlete), Bruno Jerebicnik, Angel Pepelyankov, Velko Bratanov, Georgi Stoyanov (pentathlete), George Skene (pentathlete), Kenneth Maaten, Scott Scheuermann, René Heitmann, Klaus Petersen, Michel Gueguen, Giovanni Perugini, Akira Kubo (pentathlete), Masaru Sakano, Juan José Castilla, Gilberto Toledano, Henk Krediet, Rob Vonk, Jan Bekkenk, Stanisław Skwira, Ryszard Wach, Adalbert Covacs, Marian Cosmescu, Dumitru Spîrlea, Beat Ganz, Urs Hugi, Scott Taylor (pentathlete), Charles Richards (pentathlete), Hole Rößler, Walter Esser Peter Ridgway (pentathlete), Nikolay Nikolov (pentathlete), Stoyan Zlatev, Jack Alexander, John Hawes (pentathlete), Claude Guiguet, Alain Cortes, Hiroyuki Kawazoe, Shoji Uchida, Krzysztof Trybusiewicz, Boris Mosolov, Gunnar Jacobson, Bengt Lager, Hans Lager, Serge Bindy, Robert Nieman, Michael Burley, Wolfgang Köpcke, Gerhard Werner (pentathlete) Helmut Wieser, Alexander Topay, Borislav Batikov, Simeon Monev, Milan Kadlec (pentathlete), Pekka Santanen, Nigel Clark (pentathlete), Peter Whiteside, Mark Hartigan (pentathlete), Sackville Currie, Jerome Hartigan, Jens Lohmann, Ivar Sisniega, Marek Bajan, Jan Olesiński, Cezar Răducanu, Gyula Galovici, Manuel Montesinos, José Serrano (pentathlete), Federico Galera (pentathlete) Daniel Esposito, Matthew Spies, Alex Watson (pentathlete), Horst Stocker (pentathlete), Ingo Peirits, Michael Billwein, Nabeel Saleh Mubarak, Abdul Rahman Jassim, Saleh Sultan Faraj, Chen Kung-Liang, Ahmed Nasser (pentathlete), Samy Awad, Ihab El-Lebedy, Jorma Korpela, Pasi Hulkkonen, Stephen Sowerby, Michael Mumford, Daizou Araki, Marcelo Hoyo, Alejandro Yrizar, Luís Monteiro, Gang Gyeong-Hyo, Kim Il (pentathlete), Jeong Gyeong-Hun, Eduardo Burguete, Jorge Quesada, Roderick Martin, Martin Lamprecht, Peter Minder, Peter Steinmann, Andy Jung, Christian Sandow, Michael Rehbein, Achim Bellmann Helmut Spannagl, Barry Kennedy, Nicholas Fekete, Lawrence Keyte, Gerardo Cortes, Jr., Ricardo Falconi, Julio Fuentes (pentathlete), Chuang Tang-Fa, Li King-Ho, Jiří Prokopius, Tomáš Fleissner, Tue Hellstem, Moustafa Adam, Ayman Mahmoud, Mohamed Abdou El-Souad, Bruno Génard, Christophe Ruer, Hiroaki Izumikawa, Tadafumi Miwa, Hiroshi Saito (pentathlete), Wiesław Chmielewski, Zhang Bin (pentathlete), Kim Seong-Ho, Kim Myung-Kun, Anatoly Avdeyev, German Yuferov, Leopoldo 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All the best.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 06:51, 4 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Chortle.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 08:51, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

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regarding Dari vs. King Darius
Please see Dari (Persian dialect). What the IP writes is pure nonsense. Regards. --Lysozym (talk) 14:34, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics opened
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VisualEditor newsletter—April 2014
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on performance improvements, image settings, and preparation for a simplified citation template tool in its own menu.


 * In an oft-requested improvement, VisualEditor now displays red links (links to non-existent pages) in the proper color. Links to sister projects and external URLs are still the same blue as local links.
 * You can now open templates by double-clicking them or by selecting them and pressing Return.  This also works for references, images, galleries, mathematical equations, and other "nodes".
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 * The size-changing controls in the advanced settings section of the media or image dialog were simplified further. VisualEditor's media dialog supports more image display styles, like borderless images.
 * If there is not enough space on your screen to display all of the tabs (for instance, if your browser window is too narrow), the second edit tab will now fold into the drop-down menu (where the "" item is currently housed). On the English Wikipedia, this moves the "Edit beta" tab into the menu; on most projects, it moves the "" tab. This is only enabled in the default Vector skin, not for Monobook users. See this image for an example showing the "" and "" tabs after they moved into the drop-down menu.
 * After community requests, VisualEditor has been deployed as an opt-in feature at Meta and on the French Wikinews.

Looking ahead: A new, locally controlled menu of citation templates will put citations immediately in front of users. You will soon be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) is being developed. In-line language setting will be offered as a Beta Feature soon. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.

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Topic ban
So far at AN/I, it's three for a J. Johnson topic ban and one against it. What happens now? Or does this just get stale and nothing happens? -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 22:04, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Notice of RfC 2 and request for participation
There is an RfC on the Gun politics in the U.S. talk page which may be of interest to editors who participated in "RfC: Remove Nazi gun control argument?" on the Gun control talk page. Thank you. --Lightbreather (talk) 00:13, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * RfC: Replace existing Nazi gun control paragraphs?

Response
Sorry, Robert. I've left a response on my talk page. Thanks.Vuzor (talk) 21:28, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

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Stamps - history RfC
You were kind enough to inquire at at Wikipedia Talk:Non-free content so I have tried to make an answer there. I am relatively new, and note the RfC is sort of highjacked away from me by walls of unrelated text. So at the link, I have tried to restate the case as opposed to the reductio ad absurdum. To date, six agree to the use of the stamp with historical analysis to meet "contextual significance" for the stamp itself, a commemorative. --- One has disagreed saying there is no context at History of Virginia on stamps relative to the commemorative on the Virginia Ratification Convention. --- Your comments and opinion are welcome. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 12:47, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

American politics arbitration evidence
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Good bye, and thank you
RMcC: Just wanted to say a parting thanks for your efforts to understand and help me understand contentious matters that I have been involved with here. After falling prey a further time to a touch-and-go Huggle/Winkle user, this time in the opposite direction, I am calling it quits here. (While in past I was faulted for asking removal of longstanding unreferenced text, this time it was for urging that it be allowed to remain, at least on short term, so editors could add references.) I have decided the capriciousness of the general processes, and of the administrative review processes that take place early in the case—its structuring to favour the first to revert, and to favour those who can quickly call upon friends to join in reverting—does not lead to just outcomes in reasonable amounts of time. This is all the more vexing, given the manner that so many, via Huggle, Twinkle, etc., monitor articles that they have no deep interest in, where their visits in response to automated pings are not necessarily followed by any careful consideration of the real situation at the article giving the ping. Case in point, last, was an editor that admitted not looking at the extensive talk written about the ongoing edits, but reverted them even so. No, life is too short. I have been contacted by a group that thinks there is a place for a curated alternative to Wikipedia, and so I am preparing to jump ship. I hope, perhaps, by interacting with me, even if not agreeing, you come to understand that there are bodies of subject matter experts that would have wished to contribute to WIkipedia over the long term, but that cannot stomach the process as it currently exists. With regard for your assistance, and integrity, I am… Le Prof   Leprof 7272 (talk) 19:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Russel Targ
Targ (user Torgownik) was forum shopping. He's been through OTRS and the article talk page, and recruited support off-wiki. Guy (Help!) 10:37, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

NYIT
Could you please add Harry Hurwitz and Morrie Yohai under "Notable faculty, staff and board members" section on NYIT. Thanks--77788er (talk) 15:48, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Notice
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 * Talk:Assault weapons legislation in the United States

Your participation would be welcome. Lightbreather (talk) 01:20, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

EllenCT
Note how she puts the onus back on you to show where she made accusations about paid advocacy despite VictorD7's ample diffs. This is one of her tactics.

There's a simple reason why VictorD7 considers the tax rates on the 1% progressive, many reliable sources say that including the, The NY Times, the Atlantic Magazine, the Tax Foundation and even Paul Krugman (who's no fan of the wealthy).Mattnad (talk) 16:13, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter—May 2014


Did you know? The cite menu offers quick access to up to five citation templates. If your wiki has enabled the "" menu, press "" and select the appropriate template from the menu.

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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on the new citation tool, improving performance, reducing technical debt, and other infrastructure needs.

The biggest change in the last few weeks is the new citation template menu, labeled "". The new citation menu offers a locally configurable list of citation templates on the main toolbar. It adds or opens references using the simplified template dialog that was deployed last month. This tool is in addition to the "" item in the "" menu, and it is not displayed unless it has been configured for that wiki. To enable this tool on your wiki, see the instructions at VisualEditor/Citation tool.

Eventually, the VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for these citations. When this long-awaited feature is created, you could add an ISBN, URL, DOI or other identifier to the citation tool, and VisualEditor would automatically fill in as much information for that source as possible. The concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog, and your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted.


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 * There is a new Template Documentation Editor for TemplateData. You can test it by editing a documentation subpage (not a template page) at Mediawiki.org: edit mw:Template:Sandbox/doc, and then click "Manage template documentation" above the wikitext edit box.  If your community would like to use this TemplateData editor at your project, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.
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 * The developers merged in many minor fixes and improvements to MediaWiki interface integration (e.g., edit notices), and made VisualEditor handle Education Program pages better.
 * At the request of the community, VisualEditor has been deployed to Commons as an opt-in. It is currently available by default for 161 Wikipedia language editions and by opt-in through Beta Features at all others, as well as on several non-Wikipedia sites.

Looking ahead: The toolbar from the PageTriage extension will no longer be visible inside VisualEditor. More buttons and icons will be accessible from the keyboard. The "" link will be moved out of the "" menu, into the "" menu. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) and inline images is being developed. You will be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. VisualEditor will be available to all users on mobile devices and tablet computers. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.

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Cassey Ho
FYI, for WP:G4: "A sufficiently identical and unimproved copy, having any title, of a page deleted via its most recent deletion discussion. This excludes pages that are not substantially identical to the deleted version, pages to which the reason for the deletion no longer applies, and content moved to user space for explicit improvement (but not simply to circumvent Wikipedia's deletion policy)." Also, it would have been good to talk to User:ThaddeusB before tagging the article as indicated on the article talk page. --I am One of Many (talk) 19:14, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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Viriditas
Bullshit. It is Viriditas who has repeatedly attacked my motives for my editing, without providing any evidence for his accusations to the exclusion of other motives, and has continued to do so, even after I pointed out that this clearly violated WP:AGF, something for which other editors such as yourself have done nothing. I have every right to point out when someone has deliberately stated a falsehood in falsely accusing another editor, ad hominem of some nefarious motive, without evidence. It is that which is incivil, and not calling them on it. Spare me your hypocrisy. Nightscream (talk) 22:41, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Nichole Galicia
You removed the birth date from the lede but it is also in the infobox. (I haven't checked to see if a reference can be found.) RJFJR (talk) 16:17, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

IP Address Test
Editing logged out to test whether an IPv4 or an IPv6 address is used. IPv4 address removed 21:31, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Computer_virus&diff=613482472&oldid=612768844 You undid my edit. Why? It's a sentence, or? The third picture description have also a dot at the end ... Tobias B. Besemer (talk) 23:05, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Maybe you were confused by the word "dot" instead of "point" ??? Tobias B. Besemer (talk) 23:09, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Excuse me
My bad on that edit on the Nationals article - I swear that when I looked at it I thought I was looking at it in the opposite direction, and that someone had added the Braves as the owner, and I thought I was reverting away from that; clearly I mis-read what I was doing. Now, as to why you thought someone with my editing history, and with a talk page devoid of the warning messages that would be typical of a wikipedia vandal, was deserving of a Level 3 warning, well, have a nice day. Echoedmyron (talk) 17:02, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the info you sent me. much appreciated. Insertcleverphrasehere (talk) 04:48, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * since you obviously know what you are doing around here I would appreciate your advice on something. I previously had an account here, and after an extended absence (since 2007) i forgot my username and decided to make a new account with the username that I now use elsewhere on the web. However I just realised that my old one is BlazeOfGlory15. Do I need to do anything about this? should they be merged? I would like to continue using my new username.Insertcleverphrasehere (talk) 04:55, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

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Noticed comments on talk page - DS
Hi! I've noticed your comments from here and your invitation to ask questions regarding the aspects presented there. Could you please explain what is the essence of DS (Discretionary sanctions)? Also is there any potential interference with improvement of content of articles by DS?

Another question refers to your notification of some disruption. What is exactly is the nature of the disruption? I haven't understood very well. Is somehow the use of word disruptive disruptive and should it have been replaced with word less insinuating? An objection to a objectionable (dubious) archiving can't reasonably be considered disruptive/obstructive (or some other strong word).--82.137.15.45 (talk) 14:50, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I will reply here, since your IP address keeps changing. First, since your IP address keeps changing, it would be useful to create a registered account.  Second, for a description of discretionary sanctions, see discretionary sanctions.  Second, you ask whether there is any potential interference with improvement of content of articles due to discretionary sanctions?  That depends on what you mean by improvement of content.  Discretionary sanctions provide special remedies for POV-pushing, incivility, etc., in contentious areas.  This facilitates the NPOV improvement of content.  It is meant to prevent the imposition of non-neutral POV on articles.  In the case in point, it will slow down efforts by believers in cold fusion to demand changes that present cold fusion as mainstream science, when it is Wikipedia consensus and scientific consensus that cold fusion is fringe science.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:27, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * In order to prevent the imposition a non NPOV, firstly the NPOV must be determined, not assumed from start in order to prevent possible error of stating inaccurately NNPOV as NPOV. You seems to have the impression that the scientific consensus is that CF is fringe and some users are POV-pushing the contrary. One can certainly say that CF is controversial, the fringe status is to be verified based on sources.


 * This assertion as CF being fringe cannot reasonably be accepted as an axiom, it has to be based on sources whose accuracy must be verified to prevent misrepresentation from insinuating. The requests from CF talk are intended to clarify some problematic aspects from some sources. These requests surely are for the improvement of the article and are reasonable and labeling them disruptive is objectionable (not to say obstructive because I understand using this word is not considered appropriate'').


 * Have you considered the possibility of a misrepresentation of consensus? Any reasonable editor should consider this and should not impose a certain POV by default.--82.137.15.108 (talk) 19:08, 22 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Therefore I ask you politely to stop labeling as disruptive reasonable requests for clarification of content of sources and what these sources really support.--82.137.15.108 (talk) 19:14, 22 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Also I suggest politely to stop make allusion to discrimination of IP vs registered users.--82.137.11.2 (talk) 15:59, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

WT:Harassment
Hi again, I was reading the talk pages of the policy pages related to the current Paid Editing brouhaha and came across this. You were asking about being a closer, but the general rule is that closers can't have taken a stand publicly on one side or the other. Have your views shifted since then, and if so, have you discussed your new views on Wikipedia since that post? - Dank (push to talk) 02:38, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Reply : Collaborative environment and TE
Hi! I've noticed your post to my talk page. I've also seen that you are a chemist and therefore a person who appreciates technical understanding/expertise. Are you sure my requests are tendentious as you have written on my talk? WP:TE has something re requests for sources:
 * One who ignores or refuses to answer good faith questions from other editors


 * No editor should ever be expected to do "homework" for another editor, but simple, clarifying questions from others should not be ignored. (e. g. "You say the quote you want to incorporate can be found in this 300 page pdf, but I've looked and I can't find it. Exactly what page is it on?") Failure to cooperate with such simple requests may be interpreted as evidence of a bad faith effort to exasperate or waste the time of other editors. (end of quote)

I think that the mentioned requests for are useful also to improve other articles, noncontroversial ones like Nernst equation and Conductivity (electrolytic) and therefore in a wikicollaborative spirit.--188.27.144.144 (talk) 10:18, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor global newsletter—June 2014
Did you know? The character formatting menu, or "" menu lets you set bold, italic, and other text styles. "Clear formatting" removes all text styles and removes links to other pages.

Do you think that clear formatting should remove links? Are there changes you would like to see for this menu? Share your opinion at MediaWiki.org.

The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor. The VisualEditor team is mostly working to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.


 * They have moved the "" link out of the "" menu, into the "" menu. Within dialog boxes, buttons are now more accessible (via the Tab key) from the keyboard.
 * You can now see the target of the link when you click on it, without having to open the inspector.
 * The team also expanded TemplateData: You can now add a parameter type "  for dates and times in the ISO 8601 format, and  "  for values which are true or false.  Also, templates that redirect to other templates (like   →  ) now get the TemplateData of their target (bug 50964).  You can test TemplateData by editing mw:Template:Sandbox/doc.
 * Category: and File: pages now display their contents correctly after saving an edit (bug 65349, bug 64239)
 * They have also improved reference editing: You should no longer be able to add empty citations with VisualEditor (bug 64715), as with references.  When you edit a reference, you can now empty it and click the "use an existing reference" button to replace it with another reference instead.
 * It is now possible to edit inline images with VisualEditor. Remember that inline images cannot display captions, so existing captions get removed.  Many other bugs related to images were also fixed.
 * You can now add and edit  and   in  the "" menu, rounding out the full set of page options currently planned.
 * The tool to insert special characters is now wider and simpler.

Looking ahead
The VisualEditor team has posted a draft of their goals for the next fiscal year. You can read them and suggest changes on MediaWiki.org.

The team posts details about planned work on VisualEditor's roadmap. You will soon be able to drag-and-drop text as well as images. If you drag an image to a new place, it won't let you place it in the middle of a paragraph. All dialog boxes and windows will be simplified based on user testing and feedback. The VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for citations. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments and adding rows and columns to tables.

Supporting your wiki
Please read VisualEditor/Citation tool for information on configuring the new citation template menu, labeled "". This menu will not appear unless it has been configured on your wiki.

If you speak a language other than English, we need your help with translating the user guide. The guide is out of date or incomplete for many languages, and what's on your wiki may not be the most recent translation. Please contact me if you need help getting started with translation work on MediaWiki.org.

VisualEditor can be made available to most non-Wikipedia projects. If your community would like to test VisualEditor, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.

Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Saturday, 19 July 2014 at 21:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas and Pacific Islands) or on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 9:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East, Asia).

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re: "Boy"
Do not contact me again, and you can lose the condescending tone and smugly moralistic stance. You have no more authority here than I have. Saying that an editor should "move on, which appears to have happened" and then following it up with a personal message designed to protract the issue is illogical. Caper454 (talk) 14:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

NAC reverted
Hi, I've reverted your non-admin close at WP:AN and have added a comment to explain why. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:33, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

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