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Norge
Hafspajen (talk) 18:18, 10 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Norway seems just too beautiful to be real. Sca (talk)
 * IT IS like this. Hafspajen (talk) 18:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

TIME FOR YOU TO hear some Norvegian: get to know Norways big hits: The YLVIS!! (no, they are not gay) coming to USA  Norvegians singing in Norvegian - Jeg heter Finn - My name is Finn - OTHERSHafspajen (talk) 18:51, 10 July 2014 (UTC) big hit Norvegian funn guys - evrybody sings FOX


 * As Alice in Wonderland said, "Ting blir bare mer nysgjerrig." Sca (talk) 21:10, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * And things are getting weirder and weirder ... This s*** just keeps getting weirder and weirder. Hafspajen (talk) 21:17, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * But is good Comedy music. Hafspajen (talk) 21:25, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Up to a point. BTW, I used to have a Norwegian-immigrant friend here, a school teacher, who in Norway had been (I think briefly) a news presenter on state TV. (That must have been in the '70s.) Sca (talk) 21:28, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, but you could hear Norvegians singing in Norvegian - Jeg heter Finn - Finn is quite nice. He starts saying that he has everything in life .- except one thing - nobody can remember his name... Hafspajen (talk) 21:30, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, heard that. There's something funny-sounding about Norsk, to the American ear. Sca (talk) 21:35, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * WHAT?? You are not speaking Norvegian???? Hafspajen (talk) 21:39, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Tut mir schrecklich Leid. Sca (talk) 21:57, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

ZORBA, the Greek: you have everything except one thing madness .(doesn't aply in this case) Hafspajen (talk) 21:31, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * What:Suffering? - And your Norvegian TV-presentator friend was not talking to you Norvegian? Hafspajen (talk) 22:05, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * As I suspect you probably know, Haffy, (Es) tut mir Leid is German for "I am sorry." Granted, the Leid part is somewhat idiomatic, but you get the idea. Schrecklich makes it, "I am terribly sorry." One can also say, Es tut mir furchtbar Leid, which means the same thing. Sca (talk)
 * You suspect me for much. I am not as good as you think at the German language - I can some, guess some - and some of it is like Swedish. Otherwise I would made those captions myselt at the Geman Lutfisk pictures I addeed... And it still has no captions... Hafspajen (talk) 22:23, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * OK: I can speak well - Swedish - (hopefully English) - Norvegian - not Danish, but I get what they say - some French, Italian, German, Latin, - very rudimentary - and some slight Hungarian, learned from the German-Hungarian relatives. Hafspajen (talk) 22:25, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You're ahead of me. You are fluent in three languages, I in one. But my German is not bad. Otherwise, I know a few words & phrases in French, Dutch, Polish, Lithuanian and Russian. And I can speak English with a fake Southern (U.S.) accent, having lived for five years in Kentucky. I have zero knowledge of Scandinavian/Nordic languages, although I can spot some cognates with German. Like ja. Sca (talk) 00:02, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hm, but your Norvegian family - did they stopped speaking Norvegian?

Hafspajen (talk) 00:14, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * My Dad never knew any Norwegian. I'm not sure if his parents did; they also were born in the U.S. Sca (talk) 01:48, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Do you use Tools/Navigation popups? Hafspajen (talk) 00:36, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I haven't. Sca (talk) 01:48, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * So, now, soon Baluschek will appear on main page - with a FP picture, big time, eh ? Hafspajen (talk) 15:38, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It's a whole new era — eine ganz neue Epoche! Sca (talk) 17:18, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Recycling

 * Müll Hannover.JPG
 * PS: Learned a new word today — Wegwerfgesellschaft. Get it? Sca (talk) 17:37, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

No, is that something you put on the road? Hafspajen (talk) 17:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Not usually. Sca (talk) 17:49, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sooo, what is it??? Hafspajen (talk) 17:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It means "the throw-away society." (Weg = away, werfen = to throw, Gesellschaft = society.) Neat, huh? Sca (talk) 18:03, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Gesellschaft could also mean company. See: wikt:Gesellschaft, meaning 2. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:29, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, but a "throw-away company" wouldn't make much sense. See also Gemeinschaft and Gesellschaft — big terms in sociology, which I took long, long ago. Sca (talk) 21:17, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sociology... I had a course about that at the university (for a semester), but don't really remember anything from it. Armbrust The Homunculus 04:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, so you can German you too.. Hafspajen (talk) 19:01, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, neat. Do you recycle your boxes, bottles, thins and stuff? Hafspajen (talk) 18:14, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Most of them. Glass is a problem because there is so much of it (beer bottles, etc.) and so few economic uses for old glass. Sca (talk) 21:17, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

We chuck bottles in this kind of containers - white in one, coloured in the other - and they get melted down - each house complex has several, all malls an most public places where people can think of recycling or chucking garbage. Hafspajen (talk) 21:39, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I've seen those in Europe. Believe it or not, they even had them in late-'90s Lithuania!
 * In the big bad old USA we used to sort glass by color — clear, brown, green — but then they told us it didn't matter anymore because all they did was crush it — some of the crushed glass goes into road-building material, but there is so much of it that the rest just gets buried. Awful! Sca (talk) 21:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * There many green recycling containers across Szombathely, 4 four at every place: 2 for plastic, 1 for glass and 1 for paper. Could make a photo If you want to see how they look. Armbrust The Homunculus 04:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Sounds weird to me. Glass is indeed one of the most recyclable material on earth. Just make new glases, bottles, or whaterwer of it. Easy, cheep material - for free. What is the problem? Hafspajen (talk) 21:58, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I think it has something to do with $$$ . Sca (talk) 22:14, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Panta mera = recycle more! Swedish state advertisment ov TV. Hafspajen (talk) 19:01, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha! In English we have a parody on that song, Guantanamera, with lyrics like this:
 * One-ton tomato, I need a one-ton tomato, one-ton to-MA-to, I need a one-ton tomato.... Sca (talk) 22:29, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds fun... here the film I was telling you about - soundtrack - . Hafspajen (talk) 22:45, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * — Siberiade Sca (talk) 00:29, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Siberiade - First part! Hafspajen (talk) 00:49, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hm, that was not exactly how I remembered it. I think I saw that in the late 80-something, and was too young to understand - But I was kind of impressed with the wildness and craziness of this movie... I was more thinking then - well, that's the grown ups troubles. Now I still think it is beautiful, but now I think it is more tragic. Hafspajen (talk) 01:50, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Good grief, over four hours long! Sca (talk) 13:05, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, it is a bit long...Hafspajen (talk) 15:51, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

[[Image:Flag of Norway.svg|30px]]
..' actually I don't understand why they don't use these pictures at Norway. Hafspajen (talk) 01:17, 11 July 2014 (UTC) Move them to article. Hafspajen (talk) 14:36, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK
Didn't got any ping, but now, when I checked the DYK, and tried to fix the problems. Template:Did you know nominations/Hans Baluschek. I suggested the FP candidate, instead, for some reason they think the other is no good. I leave now this and the rest to you. Hafspajen (talk) 02:03, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * In all honesty, it is rather busy & complex for a little DYK pic., IMO. Sca (talk) 14:09, 11 July 2014 (UTC)


 * None, it is fixed. Hafspajen (talk) 14:02, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I see we have that Manet as FP today — did you have a role in that? Sca (talk) 14:09, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I am totally innocent on that one... Hafspajen (talk) 14:21, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

But I nominated a few, don't you like those? Hafspajen (talk) 02:06, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Hans Baluschek
Gatoclass (talk) 11:23, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Looks like it made it too the DYKs hall of fame! and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000 .And it was over. Hafspajen (talk) 10:59, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I just added it (before I saw this). It's also featured on Portal:Germany, a very good one! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:15, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

, just added a gallery to the German article, could you save it, please ? Our article say, he is not known in Germany, well, then they need that gallery to get to know him better... Hafspajen (talk) 11:18, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I did it but adjusted the size to the several other galleries in the article. Perhaps better move images to context? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:36, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure. But I am not a regular, and they will not alow me to edit much, they never do. Hafspajen (talk) 11:41, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


 * What do you mean, "allow". - In this case, you boldly move an image from at the bottom of the page to the existing gallery where it fits in context, you don't have to add a word of German. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:45, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Kein einziges Wort? Sca (talk) 18:07, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * But they don't allow people to edit. ALL changes are pendling changes, thay has to be recognized by a "TRUSTED editor". Same with the Hungarian, this is why i stopped editing those Wikis. I just do it very very rarely. Mostly not. We have a lot of problems with vandals, but hey, we are democratic. Hafspajen (talk) 18:39, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't, just tell me and I go over to mark ("markieren". The system is different, both have advantages and disadvantages, - I don't see a problem in marking new additions by unknown authors as such. The if readers don't see a source they know what to think of it. - Kein einziges Wort: ust look: ice images at the bottom, with captions in German. All I suggest is to move them around in the article. I haven't checked if their three or so galleries are arranged by period or topic, anyway, get pics away from the bottom where people will not look, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:18, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you Gerda, I would, if I wouldn't feel stressed about this system. For you, it is different. You are not in the category unknown authors ... Hafspajen (talk) 20:13, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Not any more, but I was first, for a while. I had a mentor, and you could take one, unless you take me as your unofficial mentor ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:18, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * ps: Baluschek is approaching 3k for today, - the others were just for yesterday, - I also had a hook in the 17 hours set ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Looks like it made it too the DYKs hall of fame! and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000 .And it was over. Hafspajen (talk) 10:59, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks like about 5,500! Nice work, Haffy! Sca (talk) 21:28, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, nice work, comrade Sca! Hafspajen (talk) 21:37, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Спасибо, товарищ Хаффий. (Thank you, comrade Haffy.) Sca (talk) 22:13, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Va va va + bra gjort. Hafspajen (talk) 22:17, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Another 3,000 views already today. Sca (talk) 13:45, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That was yesterday, as mentioned above, and made him alredy the stats leader for the month ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:09, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You may be right, Gerda, although the far-right column I'm looking at is labeled 2014-07-15 — ?? Sca (talk) 14:21, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * To me, it shows as 14, perhaps we get different treatment ;) Check "live views" in the box above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:44, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Funny, I don't see 'live views' option.Sca (talk) 15:04, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), ...in the yellow DYK template ....Hafspajen (talk) 15:43, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh. Sca (talk) 17:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Have been there last year, wonderful. Not really French, but kind of best of Germany and France. Hafspajen (talk) 21:41, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * So I've heard/read. I'm quite a fan of Gewürztraminer. Sca (talk) 21:47, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't usually eat sweets but I was eating Marron glacé, Mont Blanc (dessert) créme and Creme brulé all the time. French know how to make desserts. Hafspajen (talk) 22:08, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That's why God spends so much time in France. Sca (talk) 23:13, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * How do you know God spends much time in France? Hafspajen (talk) 05:00, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * There's a saying in English, "Like God in France," meaning to live very well. I didn't know until now, when I looked it up, that it apparently migrated in translation from German . In English, it's sometimes used derisively, to indicate that the person so characterized is spoiled, has an embarrassment of riches, etc. Sca (talk) 13:17, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Woo, don't take that skeleton personally... Hafspajen (talk) 02:03, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Huh? Sca (talk) 14:01, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The discussion. Hafspajen (talk) 20:34, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Listen, Sca, You like graves, and sculls and skeletons. Why don't you nominate a nice classic Vanitas picture for a FP, instead of the modern ateljé-joke we have? I mean that is classic. Hafspajen (talk) 21:02, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Haffy, I am totally mystified by your last three comments. (What makes you think I like skulls and skeletons?) Ich bin verwirrt. Sca (talk) 21:54, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Tis.this? Thought you didn't liked the discussion. Hafspajen (talk) 22:02, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, Van Gogh's skull w/cig is certainly striking — never saw it before.
 * I thought Baluschek's gravestone was relevant to the text. It's on the German article. Sca (talk) 23:57, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Never mind. You didn't looked maybe at the last nominations, but we got even some other scull too, got nominated - a screaming one... and so on. But-why not take a real Vanitas? That was classic genre of still life painting - it was around like 17th century or so. If we now have the van Gogh Skull already in the collection... soon - we are kind of flooded with sculls - so why not nominate indeed with style, a real, classical Vanitas from some old master, that is well done, high technical level and it is a part of a fine tradition of still life?  Hafspajen (talk) 00:07, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've been distracted in recent days by the MH17 story and, personally, by computer issues. (Apparently, a week ago, I rashly overruled my firewall while searching for the World Cup final online & picked up some adware that is driving me crazy with popups. Grrrrr.)
 * Anyhow, I've withdrawn my naive support for Vincent's smoking skull, and I must say I'm not interested in pursuing a Vanitas nomination, so sorry again. Sca (talk) 14:32, 19 July 2014 (UTC)Georges de La Tour 008.jpg

Techie tribulations

 * That is to bad, those popups. I really hate them. Did you managed to fix it? Otherwise we have at Wikipedia advice for computer problems, for free. So you haven't even seen the The Screaming Skull? I could think of nominating it, but then I am going to end up with a skull on my talkpage, and that would be too much. Cats, sculls and graves and other of the kind are forbidden there. Hafspajen (talk) 14:36, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've tried several scans & such things as fixing registry errors, to no avail. Can you point me toward this WP computer help?
 * Going out cycling now before it gets too warm. Will check later. Sca (talk) 14:49, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It is Reference desk/Computing Hafspajen (talk) 15:43, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. How are your popups? Hafspajen (talk) 15:41, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * DRIVING ME CRAZY! AVG keeps killing malware, but it keeps coming back, like a metastasizing cancer. My son, who's somewhat of a geek, is coming over later today to see if he can help.
 * Have you noticed how cooperative I've become lately?  Sca (talk) 16:09, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * How wonderful of you! You can always ask -Reference desk/Computinghere - and ask your son to help you about what they recommend you . Hafspajen (talk) 16:19, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

✅ Sca (talk) 16:48, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hm, that sounds like bad new too me, what they came up with att the Reference desk/Computing. Maybe we should ask Matty, just covering all your bets, so to say. Hafspajen (talk) 20:32, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've heard this general advice from several sources — not only this time, but a couple years ago when another computer of mine got infected. At that time I considered buying a Mac (Apple) laptop, which though expensive avoids the whole problem of viruses written for (IBM-type) PCs and their ilk. However, a hand-me-down Toshiba laptop became available, and I've been using it for a year and a half in a stationary position with an external monitor and keyboard.
 * I've just finished running a Malwarebytes scan and now must decide whether to tell it to quarantine all the dozens of items it found. Waiting for advice from my son. Any suggestions? Sca (talk) 21:22, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, ping, last straw. What happened to the Frenchman who fell into a river? - He was declared in-sane!

Hafspajen (talk) 21:57, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe you mean in-seine. Sca (talk) 00:45, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yupp. It is from Matty's userpage. It has a joke generator... Hafspajen (talk) 02:52, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm really sorry, but viruses are out of my depth. I would either take the advice given at the noticeboard or ask your son (or get a computer repairman in), but I don't want to meddle as an amateur with a knowledge amounting to zero in this I'm afraid. Sorry I couldn't help, Mat  ty  .  007  08:35, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No prob. I got some help from my son & figured a few things out my own li'l self, so we'll see.
 * If things don't work out, I may go for a Mac (Apple) laptop, which though expen$ive avoids the whole problem of viruses written for (IBM-type) PCs and their ilk. Sca (talk) 13:52, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Here's one for you: If someone made fun of your handbag, what would they be doing? Sca (talk)Thomas Benjamin Kennington - Serena, Found of Savages.jpg
 * What? Hafspajen (talk) 14:04, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ridiculing your reticule. Sca (talk) 14:13, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Here's another: Why did the musician cross the road? Sca (talk)
 * Steve, I don't have a reticule... - but it was funny . Why did he? Hafspajen (talk) 00:01, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * To get away from the bassoon recital. Sca (talk) 02:14, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * How's you computer? Hafspajen (talk) 02:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Workable but still has problems.
 * I guess one could modify the last joke in many ways. Ex: Why did the artist cross the road? — To get away from the Jackson Pollack exhibit. (Or Edvard Munch exhibit?) Sca (talk) 13:26, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I would be the first to run... !!!! (From Pollock) Munch I like in general, but this scream is one of his worst. Hafspajen (talk) 13:43, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear this from you. Not only is Scream a cliché, it's a gimmick — clever but only in a sort of sophomoric way. Sca (talk) 13:52, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Quite so, it IS' a gimmick - exactly like the skull is too. Hafspajen (talk) 13:54, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe you'd like to voice an opinion here? Sca (talk) 13:59, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

, don't respond. Tell me instead how you converted, If you feel like telling secrets. Hafspajen (talk) 04:11, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * NOOO; thanks. File:El Grito (1 28) (4324472970).jpg. I just widhdrawn one of my nomination this Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Le Moulin de la Galette.jpg because I an tired of this after got an other one completely destroyed,  like this one. And even when I was decided to witdraw  someone was editwarring with me and won't let me do that.  uh, Hafspajen (talk) 14:22, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Isn't it fun being a Wikipedian?
 * I made an 'alt.' suggestion here. Sca (talk) 14:30, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You are funny. But please read this, because ... Hafspajen (talk) 14:40, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

- there are people who enjoy making people work and pulling their triggers - it gives them a feeling of power. Hafspajen (talk) 14:04, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * - This user you mention will steal no power from me. . I am well practised with difficult family members attempting to pull triggers. It cannot be done; I wear magic armour. You notice how I answered only what I wished and ignored the other comment? I could make a fun hobby of this. I am so happy I discovered the images Featured Pictures. Thanks, Hafs. Fylbecatulous talk 14:18, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * wish you could learn me how to wear that armour. I really start hating that page. Hafspajen (talk) 14:26, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * - I know. I will try to defy and oppose them on your behalf. I had to laugh at their remark:  I just know it will receive generous support here . (I really hate The Scream anyway...)  Fylbecatulous talk 14:41, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * ...letting the editor's voice echo in silence — a nice phrase, conjuring up the proverbial tree falling in the forest that no one hears. But who was/is s/he? Sca (talk) 14:49, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Potpourri



 * You got a point there. The same picture I have withdrawn, Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Le Moulin de la Galette.jpg. And if you look at those two pictures, and think - light, impressionism, depicting light, depicting the sunpatches - wich one is giving you the impression of half-shades, light patches glittering, nice summer afternoon-ish feeling? The Blue-green one looks like it will be raining soon, or tempest coming, or it is already night feeling, right? Hafspajen (talk) 14:55, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Agreed, mon ami — einverstanden! Sca (talk) 14:59, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Hafspajen (talk) 15:01, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Looked at her talk page — första kvinnan? Sca (talk) 15:11, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * ? And gues being nice doesn't helped. I tried, but it didn't worked. Hafspajen (talk) 15:24, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Off to the trail — so I can pretend I'm leading a healthful lifestyle.
 * Haffy, forgive me for asking, but would you like any pointers on English, re verb tenses, for example? If not, just say no. Sca (talk) 15:31, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Would love them all. Everybody is plaing the saint and saying ..poor this, tryingh hard - but how am I going to learn if nobody tells me what. But be nice too, and don't becane a police, now either. And |Sigh. Hafspajen (talk) 15:33, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

OK, above should have been I guess being nice didn't help ... but it didn't work. I'm not sure what tense this is — conditional past perfect, maybe? — but in this structure you don't use past-tense verbs that end in -ed. Sca (talk) 21:08, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Since I don't understand what you mean - can you reformulate sentence as it should be?


 * What I meant Iwas trying to be nice - but was targeted by uncivility as a thank - sort of. At least someting that I experienced as rather disturbing. I nominated a beautiful picture that I really thought was chaming, beautiful and wonderful, and that was not at ALL such crap shit and worhless bullshit  as this editor succeded to look like, made me humiliated for my choice, made the other editor humiliated, the one who edited it; edited it perfectly after the acceptable standards - removing aging signs a little but but not deceitfult,  - and all this with no consideration or interest for anyones feelings, criticinzing not the work but the people in the nomination, both, not  in a NPOV way, but the most UNneutral way using words as horrible silly,  and derisory- and so on - not a constructive critizizm that we use to have before; but most certainly the most unconstructive criticizm ever since I have seen any FPs. This one here->Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Portrait de Jeanne d'Aragon, by Raffaello Sanzio, from C2RMF retouched.jpg Bleeh. All this as a thank for being nice - is this gramatically correct? Hafspajen (talk) 22:15, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Easy! As my first ex used to say, "You can't control what others do, only what you do." Preachy, but valid....


 * And gues being nice doesn't helped. I tried, but it didn't worked.
 * Should be:
 * And I guess being nice didn't help. I tried, but it didn't work.


 * Also, All this as a thank-you for being nice.


 * OK? Now, isn't it about midnight where you live?
 * Have a nightcap and go to bed.... Sca (talk) 22:34, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you sleep in a night cap?? Thanks for the corrections. Hafspajen (talk) 23:26, 23 July 2014 (UTC)Scale model of Trabant 601.jpg
 * See meaning No. 2 here. Sca (talk) 23:55, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Winston wore a nightcap to stave off the cold? Or lemon and gin Bombay Sapphire? Probably latest, when Iook att that coctail. I am not much of a drinker and the only nightcap I ever used is a little Jägermeister, made with 56 herbs and spices, very seldom, that too. It is my stong belive that is good for the digestion. Hafspajen (talk) 00:12, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Jäger was originally marketed as a 'digestif, but alas over here has become a favorite "bump" among the Harley set & their ilk. Sca (talk) 15:04, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * So, shall we nominate some nice skulls ot the woman, the Magdalen above? One has to have style. Have you seen Georges de la Tour? Hafspajen (talk) 04:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you know we have the world 's crapiest article on Johannes Vermeer ? It is probably Mordenist again. If a good artist is badly presented, than it's him. Hafspajen (talk) 08:07, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

(Crap, crappy, crappier, crappiest.)
 * Due to my lack of knowledge re art history, I'm staying away from purely aesthetic nominations for now. Baluschek I could relate to because of my familiarity with 19th-20th C. Germano-European history. I've been thinking I should find another Ger. Wiki article to translate (even though I was disappointed that Baluschek got only a 'C' rating). Sca (talk) 15:21, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * OK. There are some good unknown painters I bumped in here and there. Who are the Harley set & their ilk? Hafspajen (talk) 17:10, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Cross-cultural translation: 'Harley' refers to Harley-Davidson motorcycles, favored mount of the Hell's Angels and other such bands of anti-social misfits. Every year they swarm into the bleak little South Dakota town of Sturgis for the Sturgis Motorcyle Rally, at which many of the female members of the sect bare their chests and more. I don't think you or I would fit in....


 * Re ilk, see: Sca (talk) 21:04, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * WEll, no, I don't think you or I would fit in.... no. I use my bike, car and buss. If I not simply walk...

Hafspajen (talk) 21:12, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * In the U.S., this sort of motorcycle enthusiast typically refers to his machine as "my bike." Here's a pic. of my bike: Sca (talk) 21:18, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, well I meant bike like yours, a very nice one. I have three, but the oldes one, with less gears - just one - one that looks something like this - is the best of them all. It goes like it was floating. None of the newest can compare. Hafspajen (talk) 21:27, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Over here there's a whole subculture of people who prefer mid-20th C. semi-antique bicycles. I'm not one of them, although my 12-speed mountain bike is now 22 years old! Sca (talk) 21:43, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Well - it certainly doesn't look old, yours, wanted to ask if you bought it just now. Probably you take good care of it. I never really prefered them, just pinched it. Now don't start telling me that is not right. I had 10 bicycles stolen from me while I lived in Stocholm and Upsala, as a student... When nr 10 got stolen, I just got tired being a poor student spendin my money buying bikes for the thiefs, so I piched one old bike that some student abandoned at the university campus, was standing there for a year and more. And surprize - it looked like crap but it was much better then any of the other ones. Hafspajen (talk) 21:54, 24 July 2014 (UTC).

Without looking it up, can you guess who this is, where? Sca (talk) 21:59, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Too late - I saw the diff - Gare - French for Railway station. But I probably would have guessed for a church. Lovely. Hafspajen (talk) 22:10, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

It's a stained-glass representation of Charlemagne in the German-built railway station in Metz — at the time (1908) in Germany. Sca (talk) 22:26, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Anything you want to nominate? Hafspajen (talk) 23:33, 24 July 2014 (UTC)




 * You mean Charlemagne in Metz? Nah, it's not anything new in Gare de Metz-Ville. I just thought it was artistically/historically interesting. Sca (talk) 00:01, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It is. I don't like this kind of let's do everything so bare and undecorated as possible so nothing will be destroyed. Well, looks like this discussion got out of hand a little bit, at User talk:Drmies  -  Hafspajen (talk) 00:11, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Confusing. Sca (talk) 13:04, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, you can read the part that is formulated in points, more down the page.  Hafspajen (talk) 13:11, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you know the English (perhaps American Engish) phrase, "like herding cats"? Getting WP eds to cooperate & agree in a professional manner often is ... like herding cats. Sca (talk) 13:23, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Some are like sheep with a good sheperd -others like .. cats. Hafspajen (talk) 13:26, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Like this — Sca (talk) 13:36, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * . A nightmare. (Hope Fylbecatulous is not listening - he loves cats) File:Beware of cat.jpg Hafspajen (talk) 13:47, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I like cats, but generally not more than one at a time. Sca (talk) 14:50, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Meowwww...absolutely. Cats rule. I love the link of the guard cat/dog. I have said I wish I could just have the audio of a dog barking without an actual dog, in case of intruders.  Fylbecatulous talk 16:33, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Haffy, as a sort of closet Norwegian, you might be interested in this. Sca (talk) 15:20, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, I know...  Ahmed is troubled. Same problem in Kiruna. But then Mohamed couldn't forsee everything... I say, go after Mecca-feel conected and have no fear - God doesn't care for such petitesses - there are more important things in life then going after this kind of rules. Hafspajen (talk) 15:49, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Guess you mean such pettitness. Sca (talk) 15:58, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I guess the other one is in Swedish. I think sincerely that all these hard rules are not God's invention, on the contrary - the other one's - wich name I have no intention of printing on your page - and please don't write is it the ****** ? - if you don't wan't to chase me of your page. I think all this hard rule-making is just to put out a hook to get caught in. It is just so Fyodor Dostoyevsky. And that man was crazy. Hafspajen (talk) 16:16, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


 * No argument here. "The Sabbath was made for man...." Sca (talk) 16:25, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, you know your citations. - Confusing - the above - like Fuddle duddle? Hafspajen (talk) 16:34, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


 * By the way.
 * I was working on Orazio Gentileschi. People tend to pass by him, just because he had such a talented, recognized and tragically violated girl, a woman painter, Artemisia Gentileschi. Who did painted just about what she would liked to do with the guy who treated her really badly -yes she was indeed very stupidly violated and nobody cared and not much justice was done either - painted it - in a rather disturbing way, if I may say. But probably she was really pissed, anyway - the father is a real good barock painter, too. Hafspajen (talk) 16:38, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, human passions.... Sca (talk) 16:43, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes... Hafspajen (talk) 16:52, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * This kind of articles make me sick, like El Greco. Full of crappy images, just shit - and mordenist won't let anyone edit it probably. Wish he did took that Wikibreak for real, so I can do something about all articles he makes miserable. He can write a little - but images he has no idea about. Why does he cares at all about art, don't get it. Just look at Hieronymus Bosch.  Hafspajen (talk) 05:14, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Wish he did take..... Sca (talk) 14:07, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

The Esperanto is MUCH better. And look at the German El Greco - the galleries are a bit too smal, but that's the idea!! Hafspajen (talk) 06:01, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Alas, one has no affinity with El Greco. Sca (talk) 13:50, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Remove him.