User talk:Seb az86556/archive19

If it says what I'm guessing it says...
I don't get much of it, but could you read this and give me your one or 2 cents? thanks... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 15:49, 31 December 2010 (UTC)


 * It's on the US of A, literally "Land of the Americans". It calls itself a stub article, and indeed, it is. It gives a brief rundown of the history, starting from the point that today mainly descendants of European immigrants lived there, who had exstinguished most natives, had held deterred Africans as slaves, had become rich from their labour. While not doing that any more, they were still the richmost land on earth, ruling some other parts of it by forces of economy and occasional wars mostly now in Asia. Its inhabitants regarded themselves the most important folks somewhere between god and the rest of mankind and certainly above the pope (here you have to know that this is somewhat reminiscent of several local stories and legends and carries a connotation of self-irony: Hey, they can be as bold as we!) They called themselves Christians but their "pope" was called "president" and elected in a somewhat democratic looking way, where one needs huge amounts of money to spent to have a chance. Last, a superficial parallel is drawn between the "old world" role of the Roman Empire which brought culture "to us", and the current role of the USA in the world. That's about it. Greetings --Purodha Blissenbach (talk) 19:33, 31 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Hm... that sounds a bit tuned down from what I understood... I trust you think that stuff is OK to write... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:08, 1 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, it's (imho) at the brink of deserving a "not objective or impartial enough" QA sticker. Since we have no writers taking care of those on a regular basis, I've put it on my agenda to improve the article adding simple base facts on the country at least. --Purodha Blissenbach (talk) 03:30, 2 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, thank you; unfortunately, I am only fluent in Afrikaans, so I find myself unable to write anything in Kölsch, though I understand quite a bit. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 03:44, 2 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Just the opposite with me :-) I am fluent in Kölsch and reading Afrikaans pretty well, regarding the fact that I never learned it, but am unable to write or speak it. --Purodha Blissenbach (talk) 05:24, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

DREAM Act
I want to hear that why do you remove the correct information. My information about the voting result and immigration process are true, but you comment it is destruction. Currently the DREAM Act aritle is not the voice of all in the Twinkle because I add the information. Also What you do mean "nope" on your editing comment? Woonhocho (talk) 07:01, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Partial revert; please provide references, and write better English. thanks. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 08:30, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

My edit of Arizona
How do you think that a edit that says "THERE WILL BE A COUP AGAINST JAN BREWER AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT IN THE COMING MONTHS"is a good edit. TucsonDavid GOD BLESS THE  U . S . A . 11:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Exactly. You tell me, since you're the one who made it. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 11:40, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Well I see you Can't or won't give a straight answer. TucsonDavid GOD BLESS THE U . S . A . 11:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)


 * How is that not a straight answer? I gave you the diff, the diff clearly shows vandalism. Next time, look before you leap. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 11:56, 1 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually it was not vandalism per se I admit I was wrong I'm guess I m to tired and when I saw "THERE WILL BE A COUP AGAINST JAN BREWER AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT IN THE COMING MONTHS" and a ip edit i guess I hit revert a little to fast. We both forgot to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith, well sorry will be more careful in the future. TucsonDavid GOD BLESS THE  U . S . A . 12:11, 1 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I would've assumed good faith if this had been your first screw-up; it wasn't. Your "mistakes" are numerous. You alone are responsible for your edits, and cannot hide behind some good-faith stuff anymore. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 12:15, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Had you told me of my error I would of reverted my edit I may not be a editor with 1000's of edits but getting alot better but I don't think I have made tons of mistakes. TucsonDavid GOD BLESS THE U . S . A . 12:32, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey, Seb
Thanks for your help at my user talk. See ya 'round  Tide  rolls  04:10, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Careful with using 4im right off...
...I got a talking to for using one the day before. Unless it's a sock or something. Half Shadow  04:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Obvious IP-hoppers, a.k.a. socks Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:40, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * S'alright then. Half  Shadow  04:40, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Where is the "talking" you received? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:41, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Here. Half  Shadow  04:44, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

User not attacked
He called me names, it's the other way around. Your good ol' boy system is coming to an end. You are all being recorded and reported for Wiki improvements and reconsideration of free editing. Be careful. I'm out! Oh, and mind your own business. If anything, he should be warned. I was harrassed, I was attacked. Leaving warnings on my page to make me look bad and create a consensus to block me is very immature. How do you know the creator of Wiki doesn't come on here to see how you "show boaters" are behaving?? You "chill". 63.131.4.149 (talk) 05:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If you're Jimbo, I suggest you put that bottle away and get some sleep. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 05:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Time
r.e. this. Time Will Say Nothing == Insideintelligence, he had a name change a little while back due to it being the name of a company. Just so you know --Errant $(chat!)$ 10:01, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I know; but he cannot change/remove other people's comments in the process.. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 10:38, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry I missed that. Too sleepy this morning :) --Errant $(chat!)$ 10:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Ossewabrandwag
Hi Seb az86556, I was working diligently yesterday on cleaning up the article title, etc of Ossewabrandwag as per WP:AT. Today I notice that someone undid a good faith edit that I preformed with the comment: "needs def-article". Ossewabrandwag >> The Ossewabrandwag

Have you read the following regarding the use of definite articles in an article title, WP:DEFINITE: Avoid definite and indefinite articles: Do not place definite or indefinite articles (the, a and an) at the beginning of titles unless they are part of a proper name (e.g. The Old Man and the Sea) or will otherwise change the meaning (e.g. The Crown).

Can you please provide me with the section of the WP:MOS supporting the effort to put the word "the" in front of every Wikipedia article --or-- a citation proving Ossewabrandwag's formal name includes "The"? --Hutcher (talk) 14:39, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * This applies to titles, not first line of text. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 23:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

"The"
I reverted your "The" removal at the MoS since I found your statement hard to believe and you didn't cite the evidence. Dicklyon (talk) 23:45, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see you were just being WP:POINTy. Don't. Dicklyon (talk) 23:53, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

User:75.47.129.126
Hey there. Any clue what's going on with User:75.47.129.126 on WP:AIV? He comes out of nowhere to post all kinds of stuff on AIV, including accusing me of being a sockpuppeter without any evidence, and then he blows up at you for tagging him as a SPA. Presumably he has to be a sockpuppet of some other account as that IP has never edited anything in the past, though I don't really know where to look. I've had a few dealings with users in the 75.47 range lately, but nothing too weird as far as I remember. Anyway, just was wondering if you had any insight since he's freaked me out a little by accusing me. Cheers. Zachlipton (talk) 08:43, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * And you just posted to my talk page while I was writing this. Thanks! Zachlipton (talk) 08:45, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I already answered on your talkpage. Yesterday's snow. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 08:44, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Re:Republic of Central Albania
First of all, thank you for copy editing this article. My English is on the level that (still) requires regular copy editing.

During the negotiations between Albanian rebels and negotiators from the Ottoman Empire in 1912, those four vilayets (Kosovo vilayet, Shkodër Vilayet, Monastir Vilayet and Ioanina vilayet) were agreed to be Albanian vilayet.

There were two parties that participated in the negotiations: Albanian rebels and the representatives of Ottoman Empire government. Albanian rebels demanded four Albanian inhabited vilayets to be merged into one, Albanian vilayet. Representatives of Ottoman Empire said that they agree and promised that they will merge them by decision of the Assembly of Ottoman Empire. Assembly of Ottoman Empire never made this decision and First Balkan War destroyed all promises. Agreement was made by Albanian rebels and representatives of Ottoman Empire, not people that lived there. There were many other nations living in those four vilayets, and some sources claim that Albanians were not majority in those four vilayets. Some of them wanted to remain in Ottoman Empire, some to belong to Greece, Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, Serbia....

I tried to keep NPOV of the article and to avoid any statement that can present any kind of POV which resulted with poor wording.

Thank you for your help. I hope that I explained the situation. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:37, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are right, I was looking for that word. I agree, of course, with your wording, with suggestion that maybe word unite is more appropriate? Thank you.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:15, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahe'hee! Yes, it is interesting topic. Balkan has very interesting history. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:33, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Navajo Times
HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   06:38, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Diné Bahane'
Seb, your edits to Navajo Mythology have improved the article greatly and are much appreciated. I used the link supplied above by HJ Mitchell to learn that the article was accessed more than 3,500 times during the month of December, and has been accessed more than 1,700 times so far in January. That feels good. I was preparing to add a detailed description of the hogan blessing ceremony when you (appropriately, I think) removed the Practices categories that had been there since 2007 with nothing much in them. That made me wonder whether an article on ceremonies, such as kledze hataal and minor ceremonies such as the hogan blessing ceremony might be of value. Fewer and fewer people know how to lead these. WAlanDavis 06:37, 17 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WAlanDavis (talk • contribs)

Saw your response suggesting that ceremonial details are sacred matters that probably should not be shared publicly, and that it would be good to check with elders and hataałii regarding these matters. I was thinking similar thoughts, which is why I asked you. Years ago, the students at Pine Hill High School put out a magazine called Tsá' Ászi', and I have all the issues. Most articles deal with traditional practices and minor ceremonies, and there are dozens of interviews that the high school students conducted with elders. I wish there was a way to bring students back to learning these things and sharing them with each other, but that is for them to do, not me. User:WAlanDavis / (talk) 20:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Insertions of recent violent incidents in Xinjiang
Could you give your input on the manner, and possibly act as an arbiter? That would include reverting to the stable version. --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 23:26, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Let's see what s/he does... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 23:27, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Hebrew references
The reason these are translated is so they can be understood by someone looking at them, but more importantly, because the right-to-left formatting doesn't work very well with external links - if you look at this version, the Hebrew text overlaps the English text at the end of the fifth reference link) (or the start if you're reading in Hebrew), and on both of them it is unreadable because the first part of the heading is obscured by the external link arrow symbol. Hence it is usual practice to translate Hebrew references.

Also, when you revert someone's edits, make sure you aren't reintroducing errors they have removed. On the first reference I formatted it correctly, but this was undone by your revert. Cheers, Number   5  7  15:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * PS, my "Not in Hebrew" comment was a response to your "original language usually remains" summary. Number   5  7  15:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)


 * OK. But don't give me "blind revert". I still disagree. It it pretty un-academic to translate source-titles. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 15:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but it was a blind revert - you reintroduced formatting errors on the first reference which I had changed, specifically a name written in lowercase and the full stop after the reference. Anyway, if you have a problem with the translation thing in general, I suggest bringing it up at WP:Israel or WP:HEBREW. Cheers, Number   5  7  15:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I might. :) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 15:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ádahooníłígíí
The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Q
Hey Seb, I left you a question at Articles for deletion/Southern Cherokee Nation of Kentucky. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 22:22, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors
I saw the quality of your contributions at DYK and clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Wikipedia contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador, Sadads (talk) 00:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it's a compliment. :) However, I already read the project-page when it popped on my watchlist, and I am not into being subjected to some stupid cross-examination and doing the run through some messed-up procedure. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 00:58, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Southern Cherokee Nation of Kentucky
I can see you cut the article down, which I guess is okay as it still reads okay. I did see where you felt that the the New World Encyclopedia ref. mirrored what was wriiten about Chief James Martin. I did reword that before introducing it into the article, and since that was not so evident, I placed quotes on it and cited the source. From what I read on Wiki you have to reword and then quote in these cases and then cite. It is a secondary source and all I have to support that passage which is key. I hope you will continue to work with me to get the tags off and finally have it published. WADO! PB 76.121.154.140 (talk) 07:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem is not the way you cite, the problem is that The New World Encyclopedia is not a reliable source and therefore cannot be used at all. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 07:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * That is counter to what i have been reading - please explain? 76.121.154.140 (talk) 07:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_84 Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 07:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay where would you go from here with the article, since a lot of it has been gutted? 76.121.154.140 (talk) 07:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Please go in and change your vote to delete - It is a wash out. Sorry for any trouble caused. 76.121.154.140 (talk) 06:25, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Regarding Radmilla Cody
Sorry about the repeated edit, I needed to restart the list since I forgot to save my settings. I would have appreciated you leaving a note on my talk page though, so that if I never checked the history and didn't remember that I had made the edit before, I'd have known you reverted it. Also, any particular reason you prefer "due to the fact that" over "because"? Just wondering, that's all. demize (t · c) 22:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Regarding rules
So what can I do if I have some doubts about some articles content... since you always find reasons to spred your threaths to me?
 * Basically, not much you can do since our divine mission as Americans is to foster lies about other peoples' histories. Like you said, we are wonderful. Just leave like that. And yes, you're welcome, glad to educate you. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 01:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful, my dear friend ... you americans are great people with wonderful sense of humor! Im glad you said all you did, ... although i don't think you foster lies on purpose, ...

The situation is like this: your problem is simply coz you trust too much Britannica, and similar encs., also in your shortage of non anglosax. sources... And with your lack of understanding for smaller nations - voilla!

But, as some eu. rock band once said, "We all live in America, Coca Cola, sometimes war...", please forgive me but, this is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.164.117.100 (talk) 02:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

But, since you know where Croatia is, you surely know Croats are warm, forgiving and loving people, so, i don't mind you... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.164.117.100 (talk) 02:02, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Blowing Up the King David Hotel EQUALS TERORRISM
The Wikipedia article on the King David Hotel bombing clearly says that the entire world referred to it as a terrorist attack. To wit: "The event was desribed by British authorities,[6] major international publications including the New York Times,[7][8] and academics as a terrorist attack aimed at civilians."

He organised the attack. So what is he? Answer: A terrorist.

For decades it was cited as the most deadly terrorist attack in history.

Yet you claim he is not a terrorist? Why? Oh.... he's 'fighting for his country'. You can say the same about all the Muslim terrorists, which you have no problem applying the name to. Leecharleswalker (talk) 07:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Help with a move Redirect
I am trying to move 15th (Josey's) Arkansas Volunteer Infantry to 15th Arkansas Infantry Regiment (Josey's) and leave a redirect from the old name to the new name, can you assist? Aleutian06 04:37, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I certainly can, I just don't know what the content would be, since, right now, there is none... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * 15th (Josey's) Arkansas Volunteer Infantry to 15th Arkansas Infantry Regiment (Josey's)Aleutian06 04:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- now you'll need to actually write something... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ fast aren't I?Aleutian06 04:50, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Magic, dude! :P Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)