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Pakistan
RFC on Pakistan is dead now, I've asked for a formal closure... turned out that the initiator (Morsecoder) was using five accounts to stack !votes (which are all blocked now). What's the plan about FAC? We can nominate it when you get some free time on your hand. Btw, you should set up archiving on your talk page... getting a bit heavy. -- lTopGunl (talk) 08:42, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Talk about desperation :-/ smh at Morsecoder. As for FAC I'm totally up for it. FAQ section I see remains incomplete, but I guess as long as its not tagged on talk page, FAC can still go through. Same with merging of Kashmir. I will login every night to improve as FAC suggestions will go. I'd love to nominate too, but you seem most active atm so either you or Mar4 can take the honors :-) Go ahead. September88 (talk) 16:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Right. I'll nominate it (will inform you and others when I do). No issues with the rest, we can deal with that after the FAC as well, they're not much. FAQ can be dealt with along side as well even if tagged on the talk page, there's no clash with the article. -- lTopGunl (talk) 16:58, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


 * And thanks for suggestion. Will archive in due time. September88 (talk) 16:45, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem :]. -- lTopGunl (talk) 16:58, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Waiting with enthusiasm! September88 (talk) 17:02, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Done: Featured article candidates/Pakistan/archive1. -- lTopGunl (talk) 17:15, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * That was quick alright lol. September88 (talk) 17:12, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha, was free now. :p -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 17:15, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


 * The FAC was almost idle since nine days, so I asked one of the reviewers who said FACs are archived if there's no support vote in three weeks. On his advise, I've asked some active FAC editors give their views. One has dropped some objections and I guess more will be coming in soon. I'll take a look at the issues and correct some in the morning (or at day, since it already is morning now). Check out the ones you can fix or clarify. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 23:55, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I'm leaning towards removal of some objectionable sentences altogether:

1|Military period economic growth 2)Tourism potential Do you suppose its ok? Will be dealing with some reference issues. Plus can you find any discussion on wiki which argues in support of About.com as a source? and why is this an isue if Further reading books are used for reference as well? September88 (talk) 16:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure.. those seem to be an opinion of the reviewer... a rephrase might do. Let's try a rephrase and see if that fixes it? About the further reading.. yes that section is supposed to contain unique reading material that is not already referenced in the article. For the source... I suggest we start a thread at WP:RSN which is the dedicated noticeboard with many active members for verification of reliable sources.. we can general new discussion right there in the right context. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 16:34, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright. Start the discussion there and I'll see what to do. September88 (talk) 16:37, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, I've started a discussion, you can watchlist it and comment on it when there are replies WP:RSN. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 16:43, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Right. September88 (talk) 16:46, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok lets distribute the work. I'll fix the reference and sentence tweaks and further reading problems according to this RSN discussion. See if you can the debatable stuff like the poor pictures, dry coverage etc. Tomorrow is Sunday so will do major work tomorrow. September88 (talk) 17:00, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll look for the pictures on Wikipedia and add them to some switches and explain on FAC. Will also check other stuff. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 17:04, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry for being a bit slow with the editing. Some fake accounts were disrupting articles, got half occupied with those. We've got a response at RSN. Those sources are said to be non reliable in terms of FAC. I'm thinking of either removing the content totally or adding other sources. What do you say about removing? -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 21:53, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Leave about.com, and Global for now, I'll replace the today. Genocite one can be removed, the others a well but it won't be so easy as they are citing much material. September88 (talk) 14:26, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think Genocite has been removed. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 14:43, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey, I've added most of the pdf pages. Transport one are a little more time taking so will do them tomorrow. Can you check the pdf source in the Science and Technology vouching the 1st two lines? The lines seems very flowery & superficial. See if they can be replaced with a better intro and source. Plus one Gobalsecurity link remain which vouch the pakistan border to gulf of Omkan, as this line is also in the lead I'm not removing it for now. Couldn't find any other proper source for it, so if u can check that too.September88 (talk) 20:32, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll check by evening. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 21:09, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Are we using Britannica in the article?  (for Gulf of Oman). The Arabian Sea article is using this map  as a source (maps are reliable sources). This one also contains the information though not directly linking Gulf of Oman with Pakistan but giving some what of coordinates . The next few references in the paragraph also revolve around the same. I've verified the reference for first two sentences of "Science and Technology", it checks out. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 18:05, 12 March 2012 (UTC)


 * We are using Britannia. If theres no reliability issue than good to go. And I was actually talking about finding the pdf source number from which those S &T lines are since I didn't find them. September88 (talk) 15:44, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well then tell me what you have in mind about above sources and we can add them then. There was only one section in the pdf stating it all... let me download it again and check the page number. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 15:56, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * See page 9-10 (19-20 of the pdf). -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 16:02, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I can't see anything related in page 9 O.o. Britannica map seems ok to me, altho' probably some explaning has to be done..... the other source is not directly related so better left out. September88 (talk) 18:23, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Simply go to page 19 of the pdf using the default page numbers, you'll be at the physical page 9.. has the heading, "Conference on Nano-Science and Technology in Pakistan" (search by that name). -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 09:49, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * There's a lot of POV getting into the article. I've reverted the Balochistan separatists related addition by JCAla, getting a little bogged down by all the POV and controversies (to speak of taking care of the debatable stuff). -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 12:46, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Gah, but you're handling it good! I see Mar4 is also becoming active on Talk Page. I'm trying my best to reply to complaints at the FAC page, plus make changes per FAC. Page 9, really doesn't have anything exact related to the text in question, so I'll see and replace it with something; because as you can see there is already too much complaints about text to source match in fac. September88 (talk) 14:48, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll quote the text, "One of the key objectives of the conference was to find out ways and means to create an extensive data- base of the scientists and institutions involved in the field of nano-science and technology, so that national policy can be focused to strengthen the knowledge available in this promising field and to develop programmes of basic and applied research." There's another sentence referring to the objectives being to include policy-makers. This gives the context of the importance. The paragraph previous to this is about socio-economic betterment though all in context, if you can replace.. that will be good enough to have something discussing the policy in its own accord rather than just context. Lets see about the debatable stuff, we'll probably reach some consensus about Balochistan conflict. Feel free to drop in your !vote on the other matters. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 15:01, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmm if you can explain, its good enough I guess, and I'll have a look at Pakistan's talk page and drop my comments. Atm I'm looking at FA talk, the sepoy mutiny, will probably tweak the line. One thing you asked some FA guys to review and vote right? Just direct me to the page where you slect them ad I'll ask them too so as to get some activity there. September88 (talk) 15:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Better to add another reference and keep both? Yeah, I was also thinking of tweaking that line as the user has some point and there's no need to create confusion for the reader (we, reading that in the history class, will probably not be confused but others might). I asked these users:    , so you can probably as others.. there's no page unlike peer review to list volunteers so I took them off the users involved at WP:FAC commenting on other FACs so you can do that too as there one weak to go before which we need atleast one support vote to prevent this getting archived. I'll remind  since he said he'll check by. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 15:17, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Right right. September88 (talk) 15:27, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm thinking of starting a section at Talk:Pakistan and working on the points from FAC... slow and steady though. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 13:40, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Good idea. Was thinking of doing something like this myself. There is no shortage of time so we can take things slowly, but better get on a start again. September88 (talk) 15:21, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll take a look at the main points and list them and see what solutions I can find... work can probably be done even weekly. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 15:35, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Yep. September88 (talk) 15:56, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

SPI
There is currently an SPI about you because you might have used an IP sock to cast two statements on the AfD "Inter-Services Intelligence support for terrorism". JCAla (talk) 19:11, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2012
Please see Wikipedia talk:Notice board for Pakistan-related topics and WikiProject Pakistan/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2012. Participation appriciated. Drop a note to other interested active editors you know. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 11:36, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Interesting project. Added myself. September88 (talk) 15:22, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Pakistan/Archive 16
Hi, can you keep a check on the threads for the copy edit where help is needed. I might not be aware of all the content background checks as some was added by you guys. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 10:29, 15 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Right. On it. September88 (talk) 17:45, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Userboxes for Project
I have also created few userboxes related to our project:

Hope that you might like it. Thank you and Happy assessments!  Yash  t  101   02:30, 21 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Good going!! September88 (talk) 14:41, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Pakistan copy edit
Hi September88. I've finished now, excepting oversights. After copy editing for FAC I like to keep an article on my watchlist to see its fate at FAC, so will notice if anything comes up, but I'll only be watching for prose issues in the narrow sense from now on. If there's a flurry of activity, I'll wait till it dies down.

One thing I did notice: the Pakistan page loads slower for me than almost any other article, and it pauses for many seconds even after the status bar says "done". Another thing that happens on this and no other page that I know of, is that if I have it at the front and then bring up another window over the top of it, this page quite often jumps back in and grabs the focus again. I haven't been able to figure out why, but I wonder if it's doing something active all the time, maybe to do with the switches (are they really a good idea?)

Anyway, good luck! --Stfg (talk) 21:40, 22 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Switches still use server cache, the images don't change until you purge/edit the page. It happens for me too for a second, but I've felt that with other country articles too. -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 08:12, 23 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Reply's a little late, but thanks a lot for the very detailed CE. Its also nice to keep it in watchlist because ce can be needed anytime. As to the late load time, I've found the same problem with other large articles as well, so can't say if its specific, but I guess we can try to figure out if the problem increases. September88 (talk) 17:28, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Good Article
I've passed Connor (Angel) as a Good Article. Thanks! --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 14:25, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Wow thats awesome. Very happy because I improved the article to this level almost alone. Thanks a lot! September88 (talk) 17:21, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem. Feel free to give me a shout on my talk page for any more GA nominations that you want me to review. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 17:23, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Your content dispute on Talk:Pakistan and subsequent RfC
Hi. If I recall correctly, not a long time ago, you had some sort of dispute over the inclusion of some content related to Taliban on the Pakistan article. Perhaps you might not have been aware but the dispute was turned into an RfC in order to acquire third opinions. Since you are an involved party and someone who has contributed significantly to the article also, you are welcome (if interested) to give your opinion of the content dispute at the RfC.  Mar4d  ( talk ) 15:11, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm back :-) Won't be completely inactive for long periods of times now, hopefully. September88 (talk) 20:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Pakistan national movement
Salam September88! I am just getting in touch to let you know that I have created the article Pakistan national movement. I think that You can help to improve it. I would appreciate any assistance you could provide in improving this article. Regards Averroist (talk) 15:48, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I can't believe there wasn't an article already on this topic O.o Nice of you to make it. I'll chime in from time to chime to improve hopefully! September88 (talk) 20:31, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Pakistan: Tag & Assess 2012
Thank you for participating in the Tag & Assess 2012. The assessment drive is now closed. -- S M S  Talk 17:20, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Join us at FB
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Join us:
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It's been a long time...

 * I guess you were on a break too. I'm trying to find time to edit again... check your mail whenever you are around. We had a long list and I guess we might get an FA this time :) -- <b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b> (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 18:26, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

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Asian 10,000 Challenge invite
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