User talk:Sgnaf

Re:hardcore
Thanks for reaching out to me on my talk page, however it seems you may be talking about heavy hardcore, rather than hardcore punk, as according to consensuses on the hardcore punk talk page and most reliable sources, "hardcore" is an abbreviation for hardcore punk, not another name for heavy hardcore. Issan Sumisu (talk) 14:46, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Re: Sepulcher
Thank you for your work on Sepulcher.

My query here concerns the criteria given in the first reference for WP:BAND. Your references for Sepulcher are Pitchfork article on Beneath (which does not mention Sepulcher) and Infant Island's Wikipedia page. A Wikipedia page cannot pass as a reliable source (or reference). If you could attend this this matter, this would be appreciated.

Thank you. --Whiteguru (talk) 06:03, 19 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi ! Thank you for looking over this, although I'm somewhat confused as to your critique! The Pitchfork review you mention, though nominally focused on Beneath, spends its final section extolling the virtues of this album.

"Ordinarily, Beneath would be heralded as the realization of Infant Island’s potential, but it might not even be their strongest release of the past month. Sepulcher, a four-track EP that’s only six minutes shorter than the album, was recorded after Beneath’s completion but released three weeks prior. It takes the band’s ambitions to extremes: “Burrow” is their most propulsive and dynamic slab of pure screamo, “Ghost Whines” their most defiant commitment to paranormal experimentation. It’s capped off by “Awoken,” the kind of stunning, 10-minute scorched-earth aerial view that every screamo band tries to make when they’re completely feeling themselves. Separating the two recordings is understandable—they were produced at different times, under different sets of pressures. Together, they’d be an instantaneous landmark of the genre; separately, Sepulcher and Beneath are superlative documents of a great band that still has their heroes’ propensity for confoundment in them."
 * I also don't see a reference to the Wikipedia page on the page, I could be missing something though. Sgnaf (talk) 07:14, 19 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Actually, I think I might see your confusion here – the link to the Infant Island Wikipedia page is not the reference itself, rather a part of a citation of the media notes from the vinyl LP of Sepulcher. This is specifically to certify the personnel, not an indication of notability. If the other three media pieces aren't enough in your view to meet notability guidelines, I can reference more articles. All three are major publications, so I assumed that those refs would be enough! Sgnaf (talk) 07:20, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * - thanks for your replies. And thanks for the depth of the replies. I appreciate your candour. The wikipedia reference, if I recall aright, is the final reference on the Sepulcher page. If you were able to add one more independent reference I would take the notability tag off the page. Does that help? --Whiteguru (talk) 07:25, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah yep, as i expected – that's not a reference to the Infant Island Wikipedia page, I just added a link to the page within the reference to the primary source. I also just went in and linked several other independent refs! Thanks for the critique!
 * ta very muchly. All sorted. --Whiteguru (talk) 07:52, 19 January 2021 (UTC)