User talk:SilkTork/Archives/Archive 21

Floyd GAN
Just a quick note to say I haven't forgotten, and am still working through the article whittling what isn't needed down. I have to add some info on the band's Momentary Lapse tour, and I think then the touring section will be in some kind of order. I'm not quite certain what to do regarding the 'band's' post-Live8 concerts. What do you think? Parrot of Doom 20:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * What do you think of the article currently? I've been busy with Gunpowder Plot and Dick Turpin, so I'm especially pleased that you've taken it upon yourself to improve the article - many people wouldn't bother. Parrot of Doom 23:58, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It's getting there for sure. I don't think the issues holding it back from GA are unsolvable in the short term so I'm quite happy to keep the review open, and I'm quite prepared to have a go at helping out. I have to say that for a while I kept looking at the article meaning to start trimming it, and then going off to do something else because it is a daunting task - not just in terms of time (background reading to ensure that the most commonly reported - therefore most important - details are not removed, etc), but also in terms of making decisions as to what to cut, what to leave, and what to reorganise so that the most important details stand out and are brought to the fore. Organising information is tricky - paragraphs have main points, and the lead sentence of the paragraph should contain the main point, with further detail later in the paragraph. This is so people can scan articles for the relevant paragraphs they need for the information they are looking for. It is all too easy to forget that we are first and foremost a reference tool, and to get carried away with telling a story.  SilkTork  *YES! 00:19, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I keep looking at it and remembering the amount of time it took to write :(, it kind of puts me off a little so I only peck bits off here and there. Its a shame the PF project is dead really, especially as the PF article is one of the most-viewed on Wiki. Parrot of Doom 00:26, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * O yes, I know how you feel! The Beer Project is dead (too much edit warring over beer styles and the BJCP), and I miss having others to talk with on editing problems. I prefer working on articles with other people, because that's the best way of getting the material right. It's good fun having a free run at an article, but it's better for the article when the edits are tested and improved. Some of the most rewarding editing I have done has been on articles where there's been two or three other editors and we have consulted on improvements as we went along - not every edit, but some of the trickier ones. It's a slower process, but the article does become hardened.  SilkTork  *YES! 01:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Right I'm mostly finished with the two FACs I'm working on, so I can get back to this. I've had a look through and unfortunately have had to revert some of your edits - the chronology had become misplaced, and there were more citations than needed (I have all the Floyd books here with me so can see what's cited and what isn't), and some of those citations didn't match the format already laid down in the article.  I must admit I wasn't happy with the presentation and grammar of some things either, but I've kept a lot of them though, and have started trimming other things that weren't strictly relevant.  I didn't want you throwing your hands in the air and thinking "WTF" when you saw my changes, they're not in vain!  If we can bash it back and forth between us it won't take long now to get it to GA.  I'm confident that only the focus can be sorted out in a day or two, and perhaps after that we can look to FAC? Parrot of Doom 15:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm glad you're back on the case because this is taking up what time I have on Wikipedia, and there's still so much to do! What I was going to do next is cut back the material on each on the albums to a paragraph at most - apart from Piper, which needs a bit more coverage. And cut back on the use of quotes - I quite like an article to use quotes, however guidelines frown on using too many/too much: Quotations. If you want to get going on that, I'll be quite happy, and I'll check back in seven days to see how it's getting on.  SilkTork  *YES! 15:51, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Hong Kong
I've sourced most, but maybe not all, of the missing facts in the article. You might like to take a look when you have time. Ohconfucius ¡digame! 09:55, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm there now! Is that synchronicity?  SilkTork  *YES! 09:56, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Since you popped up on my radar, it now seems you're never off it! ;-) Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 10:07, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for all your hard work on my report and for submitting it. I know you have limited time and I appreciate that you spent some if it in helping me. My intention is not to monopolize any more of my advisers' time. I hope the era of lengthy posts is over! (I guess we wait for an outcome from arbcom now?) Regards, — mattisse (Talk) 18:33, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. The Request has to be formally closed.  SilkTork  *YES! 19:22, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Motion to reopen ArbCom case "Mattisse"
ArbCom courtesy notice: You have received this notice because you particpated in some way on the Mattisse case or the associated clarification discussion.

A motion has recently been proposed to reopen the ArbCom case concerning Mattisse. ArbCom is inviting editor comment on this proposed motion.

For the Arbitration Committee, Manning (talk) 03:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Block
Further to discussion on Matttise's talk page, I have blocked her for 12 hours. I will comment there shortly, but this is not my area of expertise and request that you review this block and revise the duration as you consider appropriate. Thanks. Geometry guy 22:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Given the time zones involved, it may be helpful to extend the block, with consideration for the best interests of the encyclopedia. Apologies for landing this issue on your doorstep. Geometry guy 23:41, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I support the block, and have said so on Mattisse's talkpage. Mattisse, however, must learn self-discipline, or some other solution will need to be found. So I suggest that we give Mattisse firm guidance on what she can and cannot do, and if when the block expires she ignores the guidance, we block her again - this time for a longer period. That is what she drew up in the Plan, and we need to follow that to see if it works. If not, then Mattisse may find herself facing more extreme sanctions from ArbCom.  SilkTork  *YES! 00:07, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in SecurePoll feedback and workshop
As you participated in the recent Audit Subcommittee election, or in one of two requests for comment that relate to the use of SecurePoll for elections on this project, you are invited to participate in the SecurePoll feedback and workshop. Your comments, suggestions and observations are welcome. For the Arbitration Committee, Risker (talk) 08:33, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Problems re: Sweetheart of the Rodeo GA
Hi SilkTork! I just wanted to let you know that unfortunately, my internet conection has gone down at home - which is where I do most of my Wiki editing from. It should be up and running again by Tuesday or Wednesday next week at the latest, I would've thought. I will be checking in between now and then as often as I can but just be aware that I might not be able to respond to any comments that you or Cbben leave on the GA talk page or edits that you make to the article as quickly as I normally would. As I say, this should only last until early next week (hopefully) but I just wanted to give you the heads up. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 12:52, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. I am rather occupied in my real life at the moment, so my access to Wikipedia is very limited. I am hoping to take a look at some of the more urgent Wikipedia matters over the wet weekend. Regards  SilkTork  *YES! 18:23, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Great news about the Sweetheart of the Rodeo article achieving GA status. Thank you for all your hard work, it's been a pleasure dealing with you. Oh, and thanks for the "Goldenwiki" award too! --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 13:50, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Low pressure area
I made some changes to the article two weeks ago, and there has been no response. No one else is swooping out of the ether to help with this article, and I'm going to be away from wikipedia for a few weeks starting on Tuesday. Let me know what's up. Thegreatdr (talk) 03:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delisted. Will put on my to-do list to help make the article clearer.  SilkTork  *YES! 22:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD notice
Thanks! BTW, I removed the change of the software notability article from historical to in use. The current version isn't usable which is why it was rejected. There is active discussion on fixing it on the discussion page there. Miami33139 (talk) 19:33, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The tag was a more accurate summary of the current status of the essay. Essays are not always black or white (either so useful they become official guidelines, or so useless they become tagged as rejected) and can serve a helpful purpose midway between these two extremes. Take a look at what the tag says: essay-project-note.  SilkTork  *YES! 19:51, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * My mistake. I was reading an RFC to turn this from essay to guideline and your edit triggered to me that you were moving the unfinished software guide to a proposal. Too many open tabs, I'll change it back, but probably move one of the talk page guides to the main page. Miami33139 (talk) 19:59, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I chose the easier music topic
Hi, SilkTork. I look at Pink Floyd and choice Mr. Tambourine Man, which has passed :-) But I could be punished for this, as Bix Beiderbecke looks likely to be real work. :-/ --Philcha (talk) 19:43, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * O yes, please take over Pink Floyd! I have very limited access time at the moment, and I don't wish to hold matters up by being unable to concentrate on what is required. I took on a whole bunch of GA articles just when my real life got very complicated. I have managed to deal with all the others, but Pink Floyd is still hanging on. You would be a life saver! Regards  SilkTork  *YES! 20:08, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm very sorry, I'm ill and Bix Beiderbecke may be a rash choice, as I may have to bale out. Sorry. --Philcha (talk) 20:48, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

re:American Pie
Hi, I think that the split should wait, not the merge. The article has been merged for quite a long while (after some back-and-forth) and its combined size is really not huge enough to need a split. I don't see that the inclusion of Madonna's cover upsets the summary style (as you noted) or the formatting overall... her cover version (a #1 UK hit) is certainly a part of the song's history. Common sense (to me, at least) is to keep the versions together. Because of the number of people interested in the topic of where to place notable cover versions, I'm suggesting it stay as it was (merged)... or at the very least open a discussion on American Pie's own Talk Page before making such a huge change. - eo (talk) 12:09, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Vice-chancellor
Since you decided to usurp the title of Vice-chancellor and redirect it to the disambiguation page, I hope you intend to pitch in and fix the 1,400 or so other articles that contain links to that title and now all need to be individually reviewed and retargeted. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:53, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It is indeed a work in progress - any help is most welcome.  SilkTork  *YES! 11:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for starting to sort this area out. Vice-Chancellor (disambiguation) is now the most linked-to disambiguation page on Wikipedia. Did you know that Vice-Chancellor (capital C) redirects to Chancellor (education)? Certes (talk) 19:01, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did that as a temporary fix because it seemed that most of the articles that linked to Vice-Chancellor were related to Chancellor (education), and it seemed easier to do that and then find those articles which intend to link to another form of chancellor. I have no problem with you or anyone else finding some other solution. It is unfortunate that we have a title with more than one meaning, and an occupation with more than one title! Regards  SilkTork  *YES! 19:08, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Your ArbCom statement
I replied to your concerns, it's totally my fault. Thanks Secret account 00:40, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

History of Sesame Street
Silktork, I've now put this article up for peer review. Thought you might be interested, since you were so involved in its improvement. Thanks. --Christine (talk) 19:51, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know.  SilkTork  *YES! 09:30, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

HMS Belfast
Hello again, trust you're well. Was wondering if you'd be interested in GA reviewing HMS Belfast. Have not yet nominated it. Regards, --IxK85 (talk) 11:19, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to review anything you've written. Let me know when you nominate it and I'll start the review.  SilkTork  *YES! 19:11, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for that; the article is now nominated. --IxK85 (talk) 22:26, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Please do not reassess articles for projects that you are not a member of. Many of the projects require the use of a checklist and in this instance, one (MILHIST) does not even use C class, so your reassessment has actually left the article unassessed. Each project's assessment department or page should have a place for editors to request a reassessment of articles. -MBK004 21:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. Let me know which project you are concerned about and I'll add my name to the list. Is it the military history one? I do recall that forum not wanting to use the C class.  SilkTork  *YES! 00:09, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I've now added my name to the list of people on the Military History project so there shouldn't be a problem in future.  SilkTork  *YES! 00:16, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Welcome, please take care when assessing any MILHIST articles in the future, we use a template that requires the use of the B-class checklist, and so does WP:SHIPS for any grade above start (with ships the template will not display C or B without the template checklist properly filled out and MILHIST is the same for B). Perhaps you would like to take a look at WP:MHA? And since you've joined:

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 * Thank you for the welcome, and for pointing out that I didn't pay attention in this instance. It's good to know that there are people around who are alert to the errors of others and have the courage to point it out to them. I'm always the more timid sort who takes a look at a person's background first, to check if they are normally careful, or if the incident was a mistake. Each to their own, as they say.  SilkTork  *YES! 07:59, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

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Mattisse
Emailed reply with love and hugs. --Joopercoopers (talk) 02:28, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

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Welcome to Milhist!
 Hi, and welcome to the Military history WikiProject! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to military history.

A few features that you might find helpful:


 * Our navigation box points to most of the useful pages within the project.
 * The announcement and open task box is updated very frequently. You can [ watchlist it] if you are interested, or you can add it directly to your user page by copying the following: WPMILHIST Announcements.
 * Important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you [ watchlist it].
 * The project has several departments, which handle article quality assessment, detailed article and content review, writing contests, and article logistics.
 * We have a number of task forces that focus on specific topics, nations, periods, and conflicts.
 * We've developed a style guide that covers article structure and content, template use, categorization, and many other issues of interest.
 * If you're looking for something to work on, there are many articles that need attention, as well as a number of review alerts.
 * The project has a stress hotline available for your use.

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