User talk:SoCalGoetz

July 2022
Hello, I'm Tow. I wanted to let you know that I removed one or more external links you added to Stonewall Young Democrats because they seemed inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thank you. Tow (talk) 17:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

A lengthy welcome
Hi SoCalGoetz. Welcome to Wikipedia. I've added a welcome message to the top of this page that gives a great deal of information about Wikipedia. I hope you find it useful.

Additionally, I hope you don't mind if I share some of my thoughts on starting out as a new editor on Wikipedia: If I could get editors in your situation to follow just one piece of advice, it would be this: Learn Wikipedia by working only on non-contentious topics until you have a feel for the normal editing process and the policies that usually come up when editing casually. You'll find editing to be fun, easy, and rewarding. The rare disputes are resolved quickly and easily in collaboration.

Working on biographical information about living persons is far more difficult. Wikipedia's Biographies of living persons policy requires strict adherence to multiple content policies, and applies to all information about living persons including talk pages.

If you have a relationship with the topics you want to edit, then you will need to review Wikipedia's Conflict of interest policy, which may require you to disclose your relationship and restrict your editing depending upon how you are affiliated with the subject matter. Regardless, editing in a manner that promotes an entity or viewpoint over others can appear to be detrimental to the purpose of Wikipedia and the neutrality required in articles.

Some topic areas within Wikipedia have special editing restrictions that apply to all editors. It's best to avoid these topics until you are extremely familiar with all relevant policies and guidelines.

If you work from reliable, independent sources, you shouldn't go far wrong. WP:RSP and WP:RSN are helpful in determining if a source is reliable.

If you find yourself in a disagreement with another editor, it's best to discuss the matter on the relevant talk page.

I hope you find some useful information in all this, and welcome again. --Hipal (talk) 23:37, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Hipal. I seem to have touched on all three issues.

Biographies of Living Persons - I am not in a relationship with Hua Chenyu so there is nothing to disclose.

Conflict of Interest - although I am in Wikipedia as the founder of SYDSD, I am no longer affiliated as I have "aged out," so I believe there is nothing further to disclose.

Contentious topics - I am a (former?) Journalist and am well versed on the importance of ethics and neutrality. However, I wonder if I should delete the "endorsements" section under one of the topics I edited before submitting for a removal of the flag at the top of the page.

I read the two links you provided "biographies of living persons" and "conflict of interest" and learned a thing or two (actually, like five things) thank you

I'll avoid talking about Taiwan for now, as apparently most Americans mistakenly believe it's a Country, leaving me in the minority. SoCalGoetz (talk) 05:48, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure, but I don't even believe in its Constitution is "Taiwan" the name of any Country SoCalGoetz (talk) 05:54, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Taiwan is a State in China. But I'll avoid correcting Wikipedia until you give me rights to the page. How long do you expect that to take? SoCalGoetz (talk) 05:58, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi SoCalGoetz. Thanks for responding. I'm concerned with your selection of poor and unreliable sources for use in the BLP article, Hua Chenyu. --Hipal (talk) 16:55, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Yeah the one in Chinese had a porn advertisement :/ I didn't even realize pornography was legal in China SoCalGoetz (talk) 18:43, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Dude you are delusional. No country is automatically given that status, it is earnt through public consensus. Taiwan hasn't been able to gather enough international recognition to be officially regarded as a country (yet), but it sure as hell ain't a state in China. Otherwise, the PRC wouldn't be threatening to invade Taiwan every other day. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 04:50, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I am delusional. But you haven't heard from the average Chinese citizen, who views Taiwan being a part of China as PAST tense. Therefore, if their leaders simply follow the status quo, invasion is unnecessary. SoCalGoetz (talk) 07:34, 3 August 2022 (UTC)


 * China heavily controls the information that the Chinese people can access and also the information that they can disseminate. As such, I'm not even sure that China itself knows what the average Chinese citizen thinks about the issue of Taiwan, since independent political thought (outside of what is deemed "acceptable") is impossible in China. By the way, I'm part Chinese (Fujian, Shanghai, Zhejiang) and part Taiwanese, and I support Taiwan's independence mainly because most of the local Taiwanese do. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 07:46, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Your edits to "Hua Chenyu" are comedy gold. Hilarious edit summaries. I'm a musician myself by the way, but some of the ways you are describing Hua's vocal prowess seem a bit odd. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 16:14, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * "His deep speaking voice contrasts brilliantly to his magical falsetto." - SoCalGoetz (August 3, 2022). Jargo Nautilus (talk) 16:15, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

"wide vocal range" I had a Chinese language source but ya'll deleted it SoCalGoetz (talk) 04:36, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

I see now why you gave me that advice Hipal and will try to stick to a little bit older history. It worked I think in my article about Kenly, but I'll take your advice to heart SoCalGoetz (talk) 05:18, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

August 2022
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Hua Chenyu. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. ''You restored the source thefamouspeople.com even though you were clearly aware that it had been removed for being unreliable. Instead of restoring it, you should have brought the question to the article talk page, and provided a rationale for thinkint it is a reliable source.
 * If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively, you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
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Note that Wikipedia articles about USAnian people and topics don't have stricter requirements for reliable sources – that would be unacceptable. bonadea'' contributions talk 15:37, 3 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I suggest working from the article talk page until you clearly understand what are and are not reliable sources. While you don't have to use edit requests, they may be useful in getting others to help you. --Hipal (talk) 16:48, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

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