User talk:SportWagon

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Johann Wolfgang [ T ... C ]

00:45, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

My personal reference page for (missing) formatting info
I find it too difficult to track down some of these things, so, for now at least (ie. until someone directs me to an easily accessible quick-reference guide) I have copied portions of the Wikipedia Tutorial here.

SportWagon 20:44, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Headings and subheadings
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Hi. I have a question about this article. I'm pretty sure purple elephants only live in New York! JayRandumWikiUser 02:49, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * Well, last time I was in New York, the elephants I saw were green. &mdash; try2BEEhelpful 17:28, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * I think you should find a source for your claims. Living &times; Skepticism 20:53, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * Okay, these elephant journals agree with me:
 * Elephants Monthly
 * Elephants World
 * &mdash; try2BEEhelpful 19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * I live in Australia, where the elephants look like kangaroos! The people below agree with my statement: -DontGdayMateMe 17:28, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
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You should usually sign with both name and date but votes are often signed with names only.

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This is notewarthy. And so is this; it will end up in the box on another line. And you can also put a long rambling line, which, when the page is rendered in a viewer's browser will line-wrap. That is, therefore, how you would so highlight and entire paragraph. That is, a long sentence, or several sentences.

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Example link to a redirect page
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=safety_belt&redirect=no

This isn't really a formatting tip, however, so would properly belong in a "different tutorial".

SportWagon 21:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Updated: SportWagon 20:00, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Updated: SportWagon 22:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Popups
See popups for some helpful hints, especially for doing rv correctly.

SportWagon 23:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC) SportWagon (talk) 01:00, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Reply
I replied to your comment on my talk page. Feel free to delete this comment if you'd like. Gflores Talk 06:31, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Requesting comment...
Hi, I am trying to create a new welcome message. The templated welcome message I feel provides too many links. I started creating one which I feel is better and more suited to a true Wikipedian beginner. I was wondering if you could give me suggestions or just comment on it. Thanks. Gflores Talk 20:13, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Here it is:

Welcome, from Gflores
Hello,, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for joining. You may be interested in the Wikipedia Tutorial. If there are three things you must know before editing, these are it:


 * When commenting on a talk page of an article or user, always sign your comments by typing four ~ like so, Gflores Talk 20:14, 7 January 2006 (UTC). this will automatically produce your name and the date.
 * Creating an internal link to another page in Wikipedia is done easily by enclosing a word or series of words in double brackets.
 * Content you add, whether it's text or pictures, must not violate any copyright laws.

Wondering what to do on Wikipedia?
 * Expand an article pertaining to your interest. Browse related categories.
 * Join a group of people in one of the many WikiProjects and find out how to help.
 * Collaborate with other Wikipedians each week in expanding an article in need of improvement.

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask on the Help Desk or on my talk page. Again, welcome!

Gflores  / ''' Talk to me!

Reply to New Welcome

 * Gflores, I have replied on your talk page to your request for comments. I'll cleanup my talk page soon.  Oh.  I see you are "taking a break"?--SportWagon 23:58, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I've been back, I just didn't take the message down. Thanks for your reply, I'll work on my welcome message sometime soon. Also, if you need some help on the article you created or have any questions in general. Also, don't feel as though you have to make it perfect or have an obligation to edit it. Gflores Talk 00:07, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
 * By "it" you do mean my Legends of Motorsport article?
 * If I don't edit it, others will, unless they just forget about. ;) --SportWagon

Do you have a reason for not simply saying, "There are three things you must know before editing:" ? When creating the welcome message, I wanted to make it as simple as possible and for the new user to not be overwhelmed by a ton of links. I think there are only three things they need to know before editing (copyright, notability, and NPOV). As far as the Wiki syntax, there is a lot that needs to be learned. There are a few questions that are asked over and over again in the help desk, which I would like to cover. (signing, images, searching). I also would like to mention the WikiToolbar that has the bold, italics, etc that may be useful to many people. As you can see I have a lot of ideas, but it's definitely not organized and so that's why I have abandoned the new welcome message. Thanks for the revision anyway. :) Gflores Talk 00:00, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Suicide doors
I've done the research on the NPOV check you've requested. To sum up: In my opinion, the disputed portion does, in fact, adhere to a neutral POV. However, it failed a fact-check against citable resources. I've put my findings and a citation on the talk page. -- Shinmawa 06:20, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Improved version of Gflores Welcome Page
Hello,, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for joining. You may be interested in the Wikipedia Tutorial. To help get started, you might want to edit this message itself, to see what special codes it uses.

If there are three things you must know before editing, these are it:


 * When commenting on a talk page of an article or user, always sign your comments by typing four ~ like so,  ~ . This will automatically produce your name and the date., For example Gflores Talk 20:14, 7 January 2006 (UTC).
 * Creating an internal link to another page in Wikipedia is done easily by enclosing a word or series of words in double brackets. E.g.  Wikipedia Foundation  to give Wikipedia Foundation.
 * Content you add, whether it's text or pictures, must not violate any copyright laws.

Wondering what to do on Wikipedia?
 * Expand an article pertaining to your interest. Browse related categories.
 * Join a group of people in one of the many WikiProjects and find out how to help.
 * Collaborate with other Wikipedians each week in expanding an article in need of improvement.

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask on the Help Desk or on my talk page. Again, welcome!

Gflores  / ''' Talk to me!

Legends of Motorsport
I read the article again and made some changes. A link you might want to read (Avoid_weasel_terms), in addition to No original research. I had to remove a few lines b/c of NOR and weasel terms. I like to keep in mind that this is an encyclopedia, like Britannica, that will be read by many. It should present all the facts and not be like a fan site. Excessive linking is just a guideline, not policy. Lastly, many articles on WP are unfortunately plagued by these issues, so don't fret. :) -- Gflores
 * Feel free to add some of the stuff I removed rephrased. I don't nearly know as much about the show as you do, so it's up you. :) -- Gflores


 * Thanks for removing the nasty-looking banners. --SportWagon 23:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Some episodes therefore, really did not seem to suit the series title of Legends of Motorsport.


 * Okay, why did I put that there? If you look through the history, you will see that Matthead, who I suspect may have never seen the series, somehow mistook the meaning of my "all based around vintage automobile footage, mostly racing.", and changed it to "all based around vintage racing footage, mostly automobile".  There (nearly?) always was a tenuous link to "Legends of Motorsport".  For example, a somewhat bland description of "BMC: The British Motor Car" was documenting the company which produced the Mini-Cooper and other performance cars.  But some of the episodes (including the current ones) were/are not about racing and only vaguely about motorsport.  I can argue that my explanation was there to explain or affirm the paradox which  most readers would notice.  I have not put that back.  I hope my other changes aren't edit-warring.  I've added embedded comments to the article since it is possible. I'm not sure that's the best place to do that, but I thought I'd try.--SportWagon 23:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, that seems acceptable. Did I remove something like that? Gflores Talk 00:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * You do appear to have lost the parts which indicate that most episodes were like a true trip back in time to seeing a (nearly) complete film from the time of the event, rather than just a standard narration-over-archival footage format. At the current time I've put half back.  Does mentioning that most episodes were complete historical third-party publicity films somehow violate a  policy?  David Hobbs clearly states the episodes are such in some of the currently-running episodes. I think understanding that adds to a reader's understanding of the series--SportWagon 23:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I may have misunderstood here. I got the impression that the episodes, in your opinion, were made to garner publicity (like advertising). Is it really a publicity film? If not, then that word probably doesn't need to be there. Gflores Talk 00:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * P.S. Overall, I'm glad you made it shorter. One approach to clarification was to lengthen, and I really don't think the series warrants that large an article, even though I (obviously?) do like it.  I will miss "Now who might that be?", though... --SportWagon 23:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I didn't quite understand that paragraph, probably b/c I'm not familiar with the show. I should've talked to you about it. If you think it belongs in the article, add it back in. :) Actual subject matter and narration style is ok. Just no opinions or subjective terms. Also, in case you don't know, you yourself can remove the banners (called templates). Gflores Talk 00:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * P.P.S. This is the first time I've "crossed edits". I guess you tersely addressed my main concern, and I'm going to proceed cautiously rather than egotistically.  :) --SportWagon 23:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Legends of Motorsport
Your article is generally NPOV, some might say otherwise. You are not breaking WP:NOR, that applies to something not previously known, or a new theory (for example). If you need any help please feel free to leave a message. Johann Wolfgang 23:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Temp
Strange this is a link to my Marmite poem at google-hosted soc.culture.british 

Re: Adjudicate Gran Turismo intro, okay?
Hello! I have removed the tag. Please feel free to remove such clean up tags whenever you feel the article does not need it anymore. Your introduction is fine enough, and splitting it into sections is most times the correct way of doing so, as it effectively shortened the length while keeping the same information in the article. If the editors of the article later believe it should be longer, they will add more contents. -- ReyBrujo 04:33, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Reference Point for My Watchlist
The creation or changing of this section is a convenient reference point when I view my Watchlist.--SportWagon 19:28, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Sudoku Thought -- add later, maybe
It seems to me, but I could be wrong, that there is a distinction between solving a puzzle given the assurance that it has a single unique solution, and analyzing an arbitrary partial grid to determine its number of possible solutions. The knowledge of a unique solution is (a small amount of) extra information. The application of set inference to candidate value elimination seems obvious. I believe it can be done for position elimination as well, but I've never thought of it at all formally that way. (Each value for each region would have a set of candidate positions, candidates of which can be eliminated until there is only one left; in practice, for difficult puzzles I do this by visual inspection of my contingencies on "cheat sheets"--that is, when simple ranging doesn't work or I overlook it).--SportWagon 23:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Note to SportWagon: I've read about solvers and algorithms, and some people have expressed interest in an excel solver. I do have developed a very simple excel solver that can handle 9x9 SUDOKUS. It is 100% automatic when the puzzle does not need trial-n-error. I've found that 90% of puzzles are straight forward. The tool allows to analize alternative solutions when guessing is needed, so one can easily solve even sudokus with unique solution that require guessing. I am also using that tool to develope a ranking scheme that is pretty much objective and accurate to describe expected dificulty to solve the puzzle on hand. Any one interested in having a copy, raking a particualr sudoku against the ones I have or get a copy of the most dificult one I have found so far just let me know (is email publication allowed here?). --Alvaro Ledesma 02:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Testing Welcome
To welcome a new user, you can use the following template, which will one-time dynamically change into text. AFAICT.

See...
 * Template:Welcome
 * subst

Welcome!

Hello,, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place  on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
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Perhaps compare with (incorrect to use for this)...


 * As we later found out, that will attract WinBot which will add the required "subst:" for you.--SportWagon 17:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps try...

--~

Welcome!

Hello,, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place  on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! --SportWagon 20:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * How to edit a page
 * Help pages
 * Tutorial
 * How to write a great article
 * Manual of Style

I'm sure there must be "colour box" templates somewhere, but I've not managed to track them down.--SportWagon 15:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Tempt WinBot again, but with code tags this time
Let's see if WinBot changes the following welcome to subst:welcome (first line is the code)...

--SportWagon 15:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * My apologies for changing the code within nowiki. WinBot is designed to subst user talk page templates with list generated from "what transcludes here". I believe that it was the un-susbst'ed welcome template in your user talk page brings WinBot to here and changed the template in the nowiki sections also. It should normally not happen as long as your page don't contain any un-subst'ed user talk templates as stated in WP:SUBST. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. --WinHunter (talk) 02:23, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Alright, so there you have it. The incorrect substitution only occurs if you have a true bad example on your page.--SportWagon 17:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Color boxes (tables), for adding to my reference later
The following is not terribly interesting, as far as I can tell. Perhaps I am missing something.

Proper colo[u]red boxes can be created using the table primitives which are often used in template creation.



See Help:Table for more info.--SportWagon 18:05, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Holek/Userboxes/Sudoku
Be bold. Next time when you find something that can be replaced by SVG version, don't ask to do, just do it. ;) Ho&#322;ek &#1161; 11:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

GT userbox
Thanks for the GT userbox. :-)  (I've been busy & out for a while.) ENeville 18:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Edible tar-like substance
Understood, and done. Thanks for the note. --Ckatz <sup style="color:green;">chat <sub style="color:red;">spy  18:35, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

SPEED Channel Cleanup Required?
The user Tarun2701 who added the cleanup tag to SPEED Channel has made no contributions at all since December 1, 2006? And has no user or talk page. You added the date to the tag (Nov 2006), but it was, I assume via a bot. There is nothing in the discussion page about the cleanup required (and no indication anything was added at the time the cleanup tag was added). It might be nice if someone created an agenda. I don't feel I have the experience myself, to spearhead such an effort. And the page is not under the umbrella of any project, as far as I can tell, although maybe there is a suitable such project for it?--SportWagon 00:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I've done some trivial cleanup, and removed the tag. The lead section is alittle long, could do with a "History" section. Rich Farmbrough, 10:06 14  February 2007 (GMT).

The monkeys
Sorry about removing the trivia item about the monkeys on Trial Mountain from Gran Turismo 4 - I didn't realize that Yamauchi thought so much of them. After whoever added the toomuchtrivia tag (and I strongly agree with it), I took a hard look at every bit of trivia in there, and the monkeys bit just seemed kinda, well, stupid. My bad! The really tall tree item seemed pretty pointless, and as hard as Nessie is to find in there, that seemed worthy of staying. All judgement calls, of course, and I'll be the first to admit that my judgement is sometimes faulty. :) &mdash; Wwagner 18:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Haemodynamics
Seemed best reply on my talk page to keep the discussion thread together :-) David Ruben Talk 20:42, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

The GT4 strategy guide
If you're going to look in there for info on the World Trade Center being in the New York track, can you look in there for some verification on the Kingdome comments for the Seattle track too? That one's been tagged with verification-needed for a looooong time. Some proper cites would look nice on those paragraphs. &mdash; Wwagner 21:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I looked, but couldn't find mention of either detail in either the Strategy Guide, or the special Prima Book Driving the Game.--SportWagon 23:07, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for looking. It sounds like a good excuse to remove them from the article.  Frankly, those trivia bits always sounded like BS to me - after all, GT4 is a Japanese game, and those landmarks are in the USA.  What kind of nostalgia are a bunch of Japanese game programmers going to have about some American buildings?  While I'm about it, I'll remove those new uncited "criticisms". &mdash; Wwagner 14:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * One more quick thing - I just drove the New York track, specifically to look for the WTC. There are some buildings very near the finish line which do look somewhat like the WTC.  However, the real WTC was some 70 blocks south of Times Square, which is where the track's finish line is located.  Busted!  I removed that whole thing. &mdash; Wwagner 15:00, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I had forgotten to check the GT3 guide. So I did so last night, and it points out that both the Kingdome and the new stadium are (now) there, but does not mention "nostalgia", nor give any reason or speculation about why the old one was retained.  Please ack this comment here.--SportWagon 21:49, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Loud and clear. Well heck, why not cite the fact that both stadiums (stadia?) are there?  Seeing as citations are good and all that... :)  I imagine they just used the same basic models, with tweaks to the actual track, between the two games. &mdash; Wwagner 23:02, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Legends of Motorsport (band)
Another editor has added the  template to the article Legends of Motorsport (band), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also What Wikipedia is not and Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the  template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 07:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I had no interest at all in the Legends of Motorsport (band) article. I created Legends of Motorsport and somehow had inferred that the band was a possible source of confusion.  (Not likely, they're a very small band, I think).  Sorry I missed the discussion, if any. --SportWagon (talk) 18:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * ...I might have created the article just to be able to say "for ... see". Haha.  That made me smile as I do that all the time and thought it was just me!  No worries though, all's well.  Regards.  &mdash;Moondyne 23:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I play in Legends of Motorsport and I contributed some snippets of factoids to the article to satisfy a lazy journalist - I'll have you know (seeing as you're too lazy to google it) that the band is still fully operational and I would appreciate it if the article would be reinstated. 5 Sept 2008 58.105.51.140 (talk) 02:05, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You should identify yourself (as a Wikipedian). The logs for the article indicate there is some consensus the article should not be undeleted. I have no feelings either way.  Get a wikipedia login, and attempt to make your case in the appropriate place, which is probably at some music project.  Unfortunately, you are clearly not a neutral observer of the situation, so it will be difficult to convince people there that there are unbiased arguments to support your case.--SportWagon (talk) 18:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

My watchlist
Can moderators determine if someone besides myself has been changing my watchlist?--SportWagon (talk) 14:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I know of no means by which other editors can change one's watchlist. It's possible that an article you had watchlisted was moved, either as vandalism or as a proper move, which would add the new article title to your watchlist in addition to the original title. If it's move vandalism, and the article is moved back, the old (vandal) title would remain on your watchlist. What changes are you noticing? UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 14:56, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Racing line definitely got moved off because of what you mention. But I was sure I had put it back.  Perhaps someone later adjusted the move again, or something.  Or maybe I wasn't so sure I had put it back.  Clicking "unwatch" by accident isn't that difficult to do, either.  There's no history visible at all for "Watchlist", is there?--SportWagon (talk) 15:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure what happened there... even if an article was deleted to make room for a move, the article title would remain, I'd think. No history that I am aware of to review, though. UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 15:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Testing Conversion
Cars assigned to beginners can go up to 110.000 mi/h. Advanced cars, however, can go faster than NASCAR stock cars 200.000 mi/h.

Cars assigned to beginners can go up to 110.0 mi/h. Advanced cars, however, can go faster than NASCAR stock cars 200.0 mi/h.

Cars assigned to beginners can go up to 110 mi/h. Advanced cars, however, can go faster than NASCAR stock cars 200 mi/h.

Cars assigned to beginners can go up to 110. mi/h. Advanced cars, however, can go faster than NASCAR stock cars 200. mi/h.

Cars assigned to beginners can go up to 110.0 mi/h. Advanced cars, however, can go faster than NASCAR stock cars 200.0 mi/h.

Cars assigned to beginners can go up to 110 mi/h. Advanced cars, however, can go faster than NASCAR stock cars 200 mi/h.

David Hobbs
Hi, I suspect this racing driver was the son of Howard F Hobbs who created the Hobbs Automatic Transmission (look at the article on Westinghouse Brake and Signal Company Ltd) if you are not sure such a development ever existed.

I think that while it was never a commercial success this Hobbs gearbox / transmission deserves an article in Wikipedia. Quite a few articles would link to it.

Do you have any source of material on it? with thanks, Eddaido (talk) 23:07, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * a little late, but http://www.formula1blog.com/2011/08/30/f1-biography-david-hobbs/ -- SportWagon (talk) 20:10, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Just a little editing to maybe keep my account active...
Have I moved on? Well, wikipedia seems less compelling than at one time.--SportWagon (talk) 19:10, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

If I get around to it, perhaps I should make a RAAM disambiguation page

 * Today I noticed RAAM will not (currently) get you to Race Across America.

--SportWagon (talk) 21:28, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

My Sandbox is no longer the default Sandbox
My Sandbox seems to be at User:SportWagon/Sandbox whereas the modern location is User:SportWagon/sandbox. I think.

See also...
 * User:SportWagon/Userboxes

Also, if you try hard enough, you can search for User pages with prefix SportWagon/ (and User talk pages similarly; I seemed to create none of those).

--SportWagon (talk) 21:37, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Nice. Bot revisions were of Gflores additions.
--SportWagon (talk) 21:59, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I was puzzled to see edits revising invalid self-closed HTML tags on this page. When I looked at my history, I saw the edits were in Gflores signature (a user who no longer exists).

A new section for 2018

 * I wonder if personal pages occupy more space on wikipedia than articles do? -- SportWagon (talk) 21:32, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Diddle me this, Batman.

A new section for (the end of) 2020

 * I'm puzzled about Gflores. A major rewrite of Legends of Motorsport seems to be attributed to another user now.
 * --SportWagon (talk) 22:09, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No. Gflores did my welcome, and later asked me for help with a revised welcome page.
 * Other users did major revisions of [Legends of Motorsport]. One with a bit of consultation, and I think later somewhat arbitrarily.
 * --SportWagon (talk) 22:54, 5 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I am also puzzled which most of the page above is in a strange bold stilted, somewhat small font. I'm especially puzzled that it has not continued through to this section.
 * --SportWagon (talk) 22:54, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually that problem was due to Gflores tag-mismatched, HTML-version-inconsistent sig (and perhaps due to wiki[mp]edia trying to compensate for errors and getting it wrong; commenting out the original Gflores sig code fixed the problem, ayway).
 * --SportWagon (talk) 02:13, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Sportwagon, yes I helped you with the page. Previously, I was under the username Gflores. -- Mahanga  (Talk) 00:39, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems to be late 2020 when I last visited wikipedia and made changes. How time flies when you're in a pandemic.--SportWagon (talk) 14:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Marmite and British Culture
Up above I have a link to my Marmite poem at google-hosted soc.culture.british 

Perhaps it used to expand inline? I will transcribe it now.


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A.R.D. Pepper [MFCF] 11-Mar-1993 17:56 Posted in group: [3]soc.culture.british

Those other soc dot culture groups boast poems nationalistic, So I thought I'd contribute this, although it is simplistic:

The Joy of Marmite

I spread my Marmite sparingly, upon my buttered toast Of all the things to put on bread, it's what I like the most.

Its flavour always feels warm, although it isn't hot --Caustic like a chili sauce, it certainly is not

Approved by vegetarians, and good for your nutrition Of what my Mum called savoury, the very definition.

Though made from lowly byproducts--leftover brewing ooze It is so reminiscent of the finest of French stews

Such grand associations were surely what was meant When so named by clever brewers from Burton on the Trent

Precisely what exquisite yeast do Marmite makers use To lend such gourmet qualities to brewing residues?

I spread my Marmite sparingly, upon my buttered toast Of all the things to put on bread, it's what I like the most.

Its flavour always feels warm, although it isn't hot --Caustic like a chili sauce, it certainly is not

Not sour nor bitter, so subtle tasting generally, But it has a pungent salty side which can my downfall be

For if through too much eagerness I heap it far too thick, I will regret my foolishness, as I get nearly sick

Then for a month, or even more, I will not touch the stuff Until my fading memory emboldens me enough

Such occasional indulgence provides an education; The key to true enjoyment is always moderation.

-- A.R.D. Pepper, March 1993

MARMITE is a Registered Trade Mark of/Est une Marque Deposee de  CPC International Inc.

Made in England/Prepare en Angleterre by/par CPC(UK) Ltd. Esher, Surrey

The MARMITE Company, Burton-on-Trent

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References

1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.british/WBxgmLghD_I/ICPlCSwnAC4J 2. https://groups.google.com/d/topic/soc.culture.british/WBxgmLghD_I 3. https://groups.google.com/d/forum/soc.culture.british 4. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.british/WBxgmLghD_I/ICPlCSwnAC4J

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