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I had previously had an account a while back under a different user name, which I'd forgotten about and then rediscovered last year while hanging out with a friend who's better versed in using Wikipedia. She helped me leave a question about reconciling these account names, or something to that effect. The editor below apparently responded to this question ("You have new messages at Wikipedia_talk:Username_policy"), but when I go to that page, I can find nothing about me or my question. I don't recall specifically what the question was, or where it was posted, in order to look for it. I only tend to used the site fairly infrequently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StarchildSF (talk • contribs)
 * The discussion is here: Wikipedia talk:Username policy/Archive 20. -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 10:41, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

August 2014
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 * Removed notice due to adequate explanation of edit. I have restored your edit. With this type of controversial article, someone else might make a similar or further edit. In that event, you may need to leave a message for them. Thank you for your explanation. Donner60 (talk) 20:48, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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Please review the Wikipedia Reliable Sources guidelines. ZeroHedge is not a reliable source [in the writer's opinion -Starchild] because it is an entirely-anonymous blog [actually it's not entirely anonymous -Starchild] without an identifiable editorial structure and without a reputation for fact-checking, accuracy, etc. Therefore, it should not be used as a source. If you want to discuss the percentage of public land in Nevada, there's undoubtedly many better sources for that data [sounds like an acknowledgement that the fact is valid, and that its removal is simply being justified by a technicality -Starchild] — and besides, it's a detail that doesn't belong in the article lede anyway.

The lede should be a brief summary of the article; extensive discussion of federal public land laws in the article (if any) belong in the body text. While it is true that some people have argued that the federal government does not have Constitutional authority over public land, those claims have been rejected in court [as if the *opinions* of government court officials are more valid than those of anyone else -Starchild] literally every single time they've been litigated - and Wikipedia reflects the world as it is, not as some people may wish it to be. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)


 * If you object to a source, why not just delete that source, not the entire discussion? The article as written is badly biased in favor of the Feds by making the Bundys sound like simple scofflaws who do not have any legal justification for their actions. The fact of multiple state legislatures effectively agreeing with their position should be included in the lede of the article. Starchild (talk) 03:59, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I did just delete that single source, and then moved the discussion of the legal argument to a separate section and shortened it. The fact of the matter is that a few state legislatures briefly argued something 20 years ago, but literally every single federal court in the country has ruled otherwise. If you want to have an extensive discussion of something, it belongs in the body text of the article, not the lede. The lede of the article is meant to be a brief discussion of the major points, not a detailed point-by-point argument.
 * Moreover, the article is not biased, it is giving due weight to each argument in accordance with its prominence in reliable sources. The fact of the matter is that Bundy's legal claims have been rejected in court over and over again. His position is a fringe theory that is not supported in law [that depends to which law you are referring – the Constitution, the supreme law in the United States, does not recognize federal land ownership outside of the District of Columbia except for lands needed for military forts, arsenals, and the like -Starchild]. We do not give "equal time" to all arguments. If we even mention Bundy's claim, we are required to mention that it is unfounded in law and rejected by all courts and the vast majority of legal scholars. So if we were to include your quote from one (unnamed?) legal scholar, we would have to add the extensive, easily-found rebuttals of that quote from dozens of other legal scholars and actual federal judges who have ruled in actual federal cases specifically rejecting that scholar. Then the lede would be monstrously long and unwieldy - exactly what we should be avoiding. If you think we need a section in the article body discussing the federal land arguments, then that is a different story. We could expand the section I moved your sources to - Bundy standoff. That would be the appropriate place to have a lengthy point-by-point argument, I suppose, if we need one here. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 04:06, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

As evidence of the article's bias, I note the inclusion in the lede of a paragraph about Bundy's racist remark that slavery would have been better for blacks than federal dependency, which had nothing to do with the article topic (and certainly was not relevant as part of a "brief summary of the article" as you say the lede should be). I moved it to a different section, although arguably it isn't relevant to the article at all. Starchild (talk) 05:08, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

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References to "China"
Hello. I have noticed that you changed many mentions of "China" to "Beijing regime" or "PRC". In fact, the article originally refers to Beijing/PRC as "China" because the PRC is a member of the United Nations, representing the seat of "China", whereas the ROC is not a member of the United Nations and doesn't represent any seats. The ROC isn't even considered to be a "non-member state" by the United Nations but is rather considered to be a "non-existent state" or an "illegal state". This is because the United Nations recognises Taiwan as being part of China, a state which already has a seat in the United Nations, and hence is unable to recognise any other state, whether a member or non-member, as being sovereign over Taiwan. With this being said, it stands to reason that Beijing/PRC should be primarily referred to as "China" on Wikipedia, at least according to the standards of other articles which seem to follow United Nations recognition. I would prefer to refer to the ROC as "ROC", but the Wikipedia article for that state is titled "Taiwan" and refers to the state repeatedly as "Taiwan". Hence, I use the terms "China (PRC)" in reference to the Beijing regime and "Taiwan (ROC)" in reference to the Taipei regime.

If it turns out that Wikipedia does not follow United Nations recognition, then I will gladly comply with the usage of the terms "Beijing regime" and "Taipei regime" [I did not use and do not support the term "Taipei regime", because the government based in Taipei, unlike the one based in Beijing, is democratically elected and thus has a greater degree of legitimacy, a distinction that should be recognized in the language -Starchild (talk) 13:33, 10 March 2021 (UTC)]. However, in this case, I would also agree to change many other things. For example, the PRC is usually referred to as a "country" whereas the ROC is usually referred to as a "state". If Wikipedia does not follow United Nations recognition, then the usage of these terms is incorrect. Instead, both the PRC and ROC should be referred to as "countries" or "states" of equal status. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 11:46, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

United Nations policies vs reality
I'm not sure whether Wikipedia's policy is to take its cue on names from the United Nations or not, but the rulers in Beijing are unelected by the Chinese people and therefore illegitimate. That's why I refer to their organization as a "regime".

Taiwan has leaders who have been elected in elections generally seen as free and fair, which is why I would refer to their organization as a "government".

The fact that the United Nations chooses as an organization to recognize the less-legitimate rulers over the more-legitimate ones should bring their credibility in such matters into serious disrepute.

In neither case however do I think those who happen to hold political power in a particular jurisdiction should be confused with the people who happen to reside in that jurisdiction, or with the jurisdiction as a whole entity. China is not its rulers, nor do its rulers truly represent the Chinese people. Starchild (talk) 04:17, 11 May 2020 (UTC)StarchildSF

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I followed Wikipedia's directions to upload them citing fair use on the grounds that these two individuals are public figures and candidates for public office.Starchild (talk) 06:33, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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FYI, Boogaloo movement is under a 1RR restriction, and you have "used" your revert [actually I did NOT revert anyone else's edit on the article - it was my edits that were reverted multiple times; maybe that is why the word "used" appears in quotes here! Starchild (talk) 13:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)]further reverts will result in a block. It's time for you to discuss your proposed changes on the talk page and attempt to gain consensus [as if there were a consensus that the Southern Poverty Law Center is not leftist! My addition of the word "leftist" to describe the SPLC was reverted, even though that is a less extreme description than the term "far-right" repeatedly used in the article to describe the Boogaloo movement.] NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 07:43, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking a shot on reducing the bias of the Boogaloo movement entry. The use of the term far-right to describe the movement is indeed inappropriate. Hope to see you on the talk page joining the effort to improve the quality of the page. Terjen (talk) 07:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I have restored many of your constructive edits to the Boogaloo movement entry. Your contributions to the page is appreciated. Terjen (talk) 00:59, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

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"Dr." as an honorific
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 * Hi, I see you were informed of this guideline more than a year ago, yet you continue to add Dr. as an appeal to authority when the subject makes false or controversial claims. Please don’t do it again. Viriditas (talk) 22:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The claims were not false, but otherwise, point noted. No doubt you would have sent me the same note, in the same tone, if I'd added "Dr." to the name of someone making a claim you agreed with. Starchild (talk) 16:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

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 * Doug, you appear to be assuming I was being sarcastic in my response to Viriditas, i.e. you are not assuming good faith in your note to me as an editor. Please remember to do so in the future. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Thank you. Starchild (talk) 01:36, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @StarchildSF It looks sarcastic. Quacks like a duck.... - good faith is not a suicide pact. Doug Weller  talk 07:28, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Just as the user to whom I was responding to looks biased. If you're going to reprimand people, please make sure you're being consistent. Starchild (talk) 22:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what you mean by saying they look biased, but this isn't about bias but good faith. Doug Weller  talk 06:57, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I think you do. Quacks like a duck... As you said, good faith is not a suicide pact. Starchild (talk) 05:30, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Weird. Why reply to something well over 2 months old? In any case, I stand by what I said. Doug Weller  talk 10:02, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Why not? No time limit. I stand by what I said as well. If you think the conversation is too dated, you are under no obligation to reply. Starchild (talk) 02:19, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * If people wouldn't put such biased material into these articles in the first place, it wouldn't be a problem. Starchild (talk) 10:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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