User talk:Struway2/Archive 11

Your GA nomination of Jonathan Grounds
The article Jonathan Grounds you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Jonathan Grounds for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 12:40, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Miscellaneous

 * Not the correct message title for this ("problem" mended eventually!), but I hope you'll pardon me :)... Alberto Lopo, just altered the accessdate to three UEFA.com refs (following the edit history, so I did not accessed the source TODAY per se, I added the date when I adjusted the URL following the site's configuration), where did I go wrong?

Cheers, thanks in advance with whatever you can provide. --Quite A Character (talk) 12:30, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Grammar doubt, if you please: after learning that (speaking mostly of managers) "sack/fire" are not encyclopedical terms (I HONESTLY did not know that, at least the latter one made perfect sense as far as proper language's concerned), do you have any suggestion other than "dismissed"/"dismissal"? Is "to be relieved of one's duties" also not proper? Surely, "dismissed"/"dismissal" is/are not the only term(s).

A "present" for your trouble: for those who think that people did not play VERY hard back in the day, have a look at the play that destroyed Juan Lozano's career. I'm not saying this guy or any other sportsperson have the intention to hurt others when they go for a challenge like this, but surely they know of the risk...

Cheers, continue the good work --Quite A Character (talk) 17:21, 26 April 2018 (UTC)


 * AGAIN the invisible spacings in the reference fields? Seems to be happening again (to me) at Andoni Goikoetxea Olaskoaga (source #13), but I don't seem to perceive anything :( Thanks for the assistance before hand, cheers! --Quite A Character (talk) 17:06, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * no invisible spaces, just crap content in archivedate. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:42, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jonathan Grounds
The article Jonathan Grounds you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Jonathan Grounds for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 17:41, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations

 * Congratulations from Iggy (Swan) 18:16, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you :-) Struway2 (talk) 18:41, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Gaston Taument
I'm not even going to make an ass of myself and present a defence for removing a reference (but as you very well said, ref does not say it was his only goal, i added another with text but which also does not back that up). I'm going to talk to two Benfica fans that edit here, let's see if they can help out.

Also, i'm certainly not going to say "I'm the man" for that also, but certainly some kind of coherence is appreciated in the display of this or that article, methinks. Why pipe some clubs and leave others unpiped? I've gone now and piped them all in storyline.

Cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 21:38, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Received one message from one of my compatriots, asking me exactly where did i need help in Mr. Taument's article. I elaborated, and never heard from them again on the matter and their talkpage has already been cleaned up manually; the other offered me the silence treatment while still editing here, so i went to their page and removed my message apologizing for the nuisance created.

I think, all in all, the current state of the piece is OK, with your note telling readers to click on the magnifying glass doing a proper job. Cheers again! --Quite A Character (talk) 20:12, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

WC stuff

 * Polite question, so polite reply expected (and most certainly received): am i on your watchlist? --Quite A Character (talk) 15:28, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the last player intros where you have reverted me (and barring injuries, which of course would exclude a player from the competition), even if the player plays zero seconds and remains very cosy on the bench the entire tournament, will he still not HAVE REPRESENTED the country/nation/team? Did i write/tell any lies? If a player suffers injury before the tournament and is removed and/or replaced, the intro can always and QUICKLY be replaced/updated, wouldn't you agree?

Cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 15:32, 23 May 2018 (UTC)


 * WOW, first time i see you use an expletive in 12 years, so that must not mean good news to me. I am not mentally retarded (or that retarded) and i know the tournament has not started, hence my "...if the player plays zero seconds and remains very cosy on the bench the entire tournament, will he still not HAVE REPRESENTED the country/nation/team?" doubt, which you failed to address as well as my initial question, can you do it now please?

Sorry for any incovenience --Quite A Character (talk) 15:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note! Again, i stress that i have no delusion that i speak better English than a native of the country. Continue the good work. --Quite A Character (talk) 20:10, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

So, with that in mind, I will only be able to reinstate the former version (I will) not when the World Cup starts but only when the given player takes part in his first match? Whatever may be the case, i'll wait... --Quite A Character (talk) 08:30, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Diogo Jota
Not feeling that confident I won't be reverted/composed here and there, but I tried my best... Maybe I'm seeing it wrongly (I doubt it in this case, but it could happen), but this player has never appeared in any Olympic qualifiers for Portugal, his only under-23 cap was in a friendly against Mexico (check it here http://www.record.pt/futebol/selecoes/selecao-olimpica/detalhe/portugal-mexico-em-direto.html).

Also, I would like for your permission to replace the FPF stuff in intro with newspaper articles (already found - and duly in my humble opinion - in the external links section). Regarding the chart below (the Atlético Madrid part) would very much like to assist you, but I'm as dumb as they come regarding these!

Cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 13:35, 7 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Source for his Porto signing: if Dragão is "dragon" in Portuguese, where did i go wrong in translating that back in the day? --Quite A Character (talk) 21:45, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I suppose in its singular form ("dragão" instead of "dragões) it relates to the football ground. If they meant the team's nickname they would have used the plural. Good point, cheers! --Quite A Character (talk) 09:08, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Nicolai Brock-Madsen loan
Hello Struway, do you know if Nicolai Brock-Madsen is still away on loan or has that ended now? JMHamo (talk) 07:52, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Thibault Corbaz
Voila. GiantSnowman 09:04, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

83.136.45.55 & 83.136.45.188
Someone using these IP addresses have been reverting our edits to include unsourced middle names, such as Conor Chet Hourihane and Graham Chad Carey among other Irish native footballers. I certainly see this as disruptive editing plus I believe these IP addresses belong to the same person. I don't think those middle names are correct either and sometimes this has got to stop at some point today. Iggy (Swan) 20:20, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Rollback
Hi there! Quick and important question: as you know, i'm pretty dumb regarding technicalities, so i'd like to clear once and for all if the feature described in the title of this message is used MAINLY on vandalism or SOLELY. If it's the latter of course i promise to stop (when not dealing with vandalism, that is), don't want to embark on a power trip and use a tool "adrift" of its original purpose.

Not defending myself now, but just saying: regarding the other user's actions in Matías Almeyda, i only noticed the "accumulated/won" bit (and, before reverting, i consulted a few articles on English footballers and read that the most common verb used when describing similar career bits was "win") and did not see the very correct action they performed in the Guadalajara managerial section. AGAIN i stress, this is no way excuses a (potential) wrong usage of the rollback on my part.

Thank you for helping out, sorry for any inconvenience and best of luck for tomorrow --Quite A Character (talk) 20:30, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


 * And, with this (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tobias_Figueiredo&diff=850843741&oldid=850782066), maybe you are now saying to yourself "What a no-good liar, promising "A" and doing "B""! This is a IP-hopping sock, OK (and this guideline i do know, edits from socks may/can be reverted regardless of their efforts)? Just ask to see if i'm lying (in fact, GS does revert them ALL as far as i i'm aware)!

Attentively --Quite A Character (talk) 20:33, 18 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Sure thing, i'll notify. Again, pardon the technical "faux pas"... --Quite A Character (talk) 21:44, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

English usage
Grammar again: i often write in articles (mainly intros) "Over the course of X seasons...", but i saw it being trimmed/composed to "Over X seasons..." on a couple of occasions. I'm not debating the latter is not correct, but is not former not 100% correct as well?

Cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 01:00, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


 * One sentence (at least, the one most commonly used by yours truly) could be "Over X seasons, Y individual amassed Primeira Liga totals of Z matches and Q goals". --Quite A Character (talk) 10:56, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Anthony Knockaert
Hello. An edit that you recently made to Anthony Knockaert seemed to include some wrong numbers in the titles. Instead of the numbers being the season boundaries, it shows the numbers as "66497/66498" instead. I've only just noticed that when I spotted that one of the categories was wrong per infobox and seen that the player is not a defender as far as I know. Thanks, Iggy (Swan) 20:21, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Luca Colville
Massively unfair, given he had been announced in the starting line-up before I created it, and he was on the pitch within the hour. What point was there creating it in draft and moving it straight away? WP:COMMONSENSE applies here. GiantSnowman 10:19, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Jack Ball deletion
Just a note — while it's not at all a problem that you tagged the talk page for deletion as well as the article, there's no need to do it. When I click the "delete page" button for the article, I'm given a little notice that says "this page has a talk page; do you want to delete that too?" If you actively want to tag a talk page in that situation, that's quite fine, but don't think you have to :-) Nyttend (talk) 11:36, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Jack Whent
Thanks for creating a page for Jack Whent. I am happy to connect with additional information re. his Pacific Coast League career & keen to learn what you may have additionally on his career in the US. I am also looking for any concrete details per his date of birth (yes, I've seen the 1920 reference, but there is also a suggestion that he was younger by four years) and family connections. Cheers! @rscott187 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rscott187 (talk • contribs) 19:28, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Allan Nyom
Hi there fellow user!

Let's go bit by bit, without further ado: as you wrote in your summary that you fixed some errors in the hope they were "..not add in any more..." i assumed i incurred in a couple of shortcomings, so let's discuss them and see if i finally get it right:

1 - the player's Watford profile, i feel the main title or the sub one would be sufficient, no need for them both. However, out of respect for you of course i will now stop inserting my preferred version; 2 - i prefer, aesthetically, to have the author of a piece AFTER the newspaper/web article, also seems to make a bit more sense. Of course, should you choose to re-revert that particular buck will also stop here; 3 - speaking of sources, i always thought of BBC Sport as a "web" and not "news" as BBC is not a newspaper even though they do report NEWS. What am i missing there? It's kind of confusing to yours truly :( 4 - Even though i am of the opinion one could leave BDFUTBOL and SOCCERBASE (in Mr. Nyom's case) also as links for quick(er) consultation even though they are now inline refs, don't worry i will not reinstate those; 5 - display of (some) clubs as publisher of/in refs: i did not think the last dot in the "FC" was needed, since it is assumed automatically.

Cheers, sorry for any inconvenience --Quite A Character (talk) 19:14, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You misunderstand: that bit of my edit summary referred to my hope that, in correcting the several errors in the stats table, I had not myself introduced any new ones. As to your numbered points:


 * 1) Good, though I'd rather it was out of respect for whoever it was that put the correct title in the first place; you were rather pushing edit-war territory with repeatedly removing it;
 * 2) Do what you like, but another time, please wait until you have substantive changes to make to the article at the same time: editing just to do something as pointless as fiddling with the order of parameters is frowned upon;
 * 3) Don't think it matters much these days. cite news used to be for news organisations or for the news side of general media organisations, whether web- or paper-based, but both produce roughly the same output now.
 * 4) Where do you think the reader is more likely to look for additional detail about the subject's Granada stats? by clicking the source cited in the stats table, or by guessing which link to click on in a long stream of apparently random links at the bottom of the page?
 * 5) If a club's name is Watford F.C. with a dot after each, adding the omitted one makes the contents of publisher correct. We're allowed to make corrections regardless of what the reader sees. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 20:42, 21 August 2018 (UTC)


 * 1 - quite harsh and unfair comment, but that's OK i can live with it; 2 - i do think you are correct in that assumption; 3 - thanks for the input; 4 - again you are correct, but when i meant "quick consultation" i was not thinking of season-by-season consultation, rather an overall approach; 5 - thanks again. Cheers back --Quite A Character (talk) 21:23, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Striking reply #1. Had no idea it was me that added that ref in the first place, and edit-war territory was a bit OTT. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 21:49, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

When i was writing those lines, can't say for sure i knew it was you who firstly added source, but your comment did strike me as a bit "tough". Thanks for the "subsequent respect", appreciated it. Oh well, water under the bridge as they say, continue the good work (and i know, when thinking of a gregarious editor i will never rank in the top 500 and that's an understatement!)...

Winstanley
Not a problem - happens to me all the time. GiantSnowman 13:23, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

A.F.C./AFC Bournemouth
✅ - I think I've got everything, let me know if you see anything else. User also warned. GiantSnowman 14:50, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Nacho Monreal - Reply
Thanks for the tip and the amendments! The questions come now: 1 - in your view (much more experienced than mine, regarding technicalities), is it preferrable to write "first, last" than "author"? 2 - so, DAILY MAIL is to be considered unreliable after all? I remember reading about the "first half" of that discussion, and they seemed to be "winning"... 3 - grammar: i've seen it written here and there, but is "fellow compatriot/countryman" really needed (and i ask this without any "smartassness", just asking as a non-native speaker of your language)? Doesn't "compatriot/countryman" alone imply fellow citizenship? Imagine this phrase: "Hey Struway come here, i'd like you to meet my countryman Fernando Pessoa". I mean of course you'd understand it regardless of a possible poor grammatical construction, but my question is precisely that, is the sentence wrong grammatically? 4 - publisher/akin of reference #32, why do we need the (in this case) .info bit? If it's because it's a website, well isn't ALL of our info retrieved from websites ("skysports.com", "bbc.com/sport", "abola.pt", "marca.com", etc, etc)? I'd like to adjust the title if it's possible (i'll leave "website" instead of "publisher" if it's that paramount), but do note i won't change anything unless you give the green light ;)

Cheers back, enjoy your weekend --Quite A Character (talk) 17:08, 24 August 2018 (UTC)


 * 1) I think more people use first, last than use author, these days.
 * 2) I wouldn't use it from scratch. But I wouldn't go out of my way to remove something like a match report that covers in one source what might take 2 or 3 "reliable" ones: some of their football writing has often been very good indeed. But anything gossipy like believed-to-be transfer fees, I'd change, and certainly anything personal about people. Mind you, it's pretty much a general rule that we don't use tabloids for personal stuff about living people, not just the Daily Mail. Incidentally, the BBC believed Mr Monreal's transfer fee to be around £10m, so I'm not sure we should be cherry-picking one of many guesstimates at all... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:22, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 3) Compatriot alone is fine, fellow countryman means compatriot, countrymen plural is OK for people from the same country, but countryman singular means someone from the countryside, a rural person. See https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/countryman and click on the More example sentences buttons.
 * 4) As far as I can see, it's the name of the website: it's certainly what's written on the banner at the top of the page. If a website is the online presence of a print publication, even if its content hasn't necessarily appeared in print, we use the name of the publication, like Marca; or it's the website of an organisation or part thereof, like BBC or BBC Sport, we use the publisher's name. If it's just a website, we don't make up a name, like someone had before I changed it: we use whatever's written on the banner at the top of the page, or on the site's front page, or else we use the domain name. In this case both. See Help:Citation Style 1. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 21:13, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

User:Harry J Beeney
Hello, hoping you have a good start to September so far.

I have something that I've noticed which may be suspicious relating to the user on this subject heading. The contributions of this user and the ones on this IP address range 2A02:C7D:32B7:9E00:0:0:0:0/64 consists of articles of Brighton & Hove Albion players (the majority anyway). I've also had a look at the user page and amongst the content, there exists the place "Sussex" in there, possibly relating to the fact that the club is located down there. Also, because I have set the checkbox to strike out currently blocked users/IP addresses, there is at least one IP address from the linked range which is currently blocked. I am thinking that Harry here is using those IP addresses for evading blocks and the user account is only there to hide the IP addresses. Conversely, I think Mattythewhite is also suspicious of this as well, see User talk:Harry J Beeney. Iggy (Swan) 09:36, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I have no knowledge of all the technical stuff, or what this currently blocked IP did to get blocked. In general, it's hardly surprising if a kid doesn't know that an IP address being blocked means "they" couldn't edit ever again, especially if no-one had explained that to them. And if no-one had explained it, I'd be pretty disappointed if anyone started blocking them for block evasion when they didn't know there was such a thing. If their editing under their new account gets so disruptive it adversely affects the encyclopedia or makes a lot of extra work for others, they can be blocked in their own right.
 * Pinging, only because you mentioned him without linking. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:39, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

AFC Bournemouth
Good morning to you, fellow user,

i posed a question regarding this football club, and he kindly redirected me to you. I noticed, in passage i'd have to admit, a discussion being held about the organization, but maybe there have been some developments i don't know of (i.e. now, are we not even allowed to compress the club's name in the infobox?).

Cheers, thanks in advance --Quite A Character (talk) 06:36, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * There are two Bournemouth clubs: Bournemouth F.C. is a well-known non-league club founded in 1875 and still going, and AFC Bournemouth is the league club. That club's name is AFC Bournemouth, not Bournemouth: see e.g. the BBC's list of teams, where it's listed above Arsenal alphabetically, or the Premier League's squad lists, where its badge at the top of the page is first in line, and its squad appears first in the list, under AFC Bournemouth where none of the other clubs have their F.C. suffix.
 * It's acceptable to omit the AFC in prose once context has been established, but not otherwise. The list of clubs in the infobox is there as an unambiguous, contextless, at-a-glance summary of a player's career, so that's what we should be showing the reader: the unambiguous name of this club is AFC Bournemouth. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:02, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

I see...point taken all the way, thank you very much for the thorough explanation :) Cheers, continue the good work --Quite A Character (talk) 08:48, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

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Rollback
OK, you reverted me. In the meantime, please allow the Greek nuisance's version to remain, with their Anglish, their overlinking and/or verbatim display of newspaper/website articles. If i'm not mistaken, all the goals scored by Jerónimo Barrales for his new club are mentioned in the storyline, which violates WP:OVERDETAIL.

I'll take care of it tomorrow (that and Carles Coto, have already cleaned up João Pedro Almeida Machado in the meantime), this situation has already been reported to :, he has been treating this IP as a vandal in the last years (and i concur 100%), surely my opinion is of no interest to you, but you do give Snowman some credit?

Attentively --Quite A Character (talk) 21:48, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * - IPs reverted and tagged as socks but not blocked. GiantSnowman 10:04, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

I see, Struway, thanks for the quick/thorough reply (i only re-followed suit now because i've just logged in for the day). Also, thanks to : (here) and : (in my talk) for their inputs. Cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 21:27, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Jermaine Pennant
Sorry, that was an error in my regexes. I'll fix them. Colonies Chris (talk) 17:16, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Nicolás Otamendi
Hello there,

in this chap's statistical chart, i tried to insert the actual title (Nicolás Otamendi » Club matches; not a ":") as i have seen in so many articles. Also, the question: if we are forced to write stuff like "worldfootball.net" or "eu-football.info" instead of just the names of the sites, why "soccerway" and not "soccerway.com"? Kind of incoherent, but maybe it's me that's missing something again?

Was only aiming at (at least from where i'm coming) coherence, last time i fiddle with it as i don't want to come across as a wiki-nuisance to anyone (except to vandals, there i relish). Cheers, have a pleasant week --Quite A Character (talk) 20:50, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The "»" isn't an integral part of the title, it's a non-English punctuation mark used as a separator between two significant items, so replacing it with something an English keyboard will generate does no harm, and the MoS suggests a colon. See Help:Citation Style 1.
 * We do use the names of the sites. The name of the site is what's written on the banner at the top of a page or on the site's front page. What's written on a page on soccerway.com is Soccerway. What's written on a page on worldfootball.net is worldfootball.net. What's written on a page on eu-football.info is EU and then a picture of a football and then Football.info. Some site names are just words and others have .extensions: that's just the way it is. It's OK to capitalise for readability, so EU-Football.info or WorldFootball.net would be OK. See Help:Citation Style 1. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 21:46, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * We do use the names of the sites. The name of the site is what's written on the banner at the top of a page or on the site's front page. What's written on a page on soccerway.com is Soccerway. What's written on a page on worldfootball.net is worldfootball.net. What's written on a page on eu-football.info is EU and then a picture of a football and then Football.info. Some site names are just words and others have .extensions: that's just the way it is. It's OK to capitalise for readability, so EU-Football.info or WorldFootball.net would be OK. See Help:Citation Style 1. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 21:46, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Birmingham City
To name a few more examples: Leicester City, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Aston Villa, Stoke City F.C., Coventry City. The list goes on to nearly every club in England. It doesn’t matter what it says on the WikiProject; this is obviously a consensus standard on English football club articles.  IWI  ( chat ) 22:09, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Bruno (footballer)
Hi there,

i was about to undo me in the chart of stats below (because in the box this user/sock ALWAYS does the same, they remove the hours/minutes but they leave the UTC), you already (duly) took care of that. I thanked thee for it in the proper editorial field, and i repeat it here. For more details on (possibly another undue) rollback, please check User:Mattythewhite's talk page.

Cheers, sorry for any inconvenience --Quite A Character (talk) 15:43, 29 November 2018 (UTC)


 * What caught my eye was item #8 in the previous account's talk page (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Harry_J_Beeney). But if it was a wrong accusation, albeit with all the best intention of the user who inserted the bit, then let bygones be bygones :) Cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 18:24, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * He was briefly blocked a couple of months ago. As far as I'm aware, he's edited constructively since. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:28, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Dabs
Thanks for the thanks. Not sure if you are aware but there's an option in Preferences under Gadgets, titled "Display links to disambiguation pages in orange". I find it incredibly useful, particularly when previewing my own content additions. HTH, Nzd   (talk)  23:59, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Abdenasser El Khayati
Apologies, I just noticed an editor adding differing figures to the infobox, I thought he was vandalising. GiantSnowman 11:00, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Featured_article_candidates/Kevin_Beattie/archive1
I'll second TRM's invitation. I'd welcome the scrutiny of a football expert. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 13:43, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Bulgarian IP
Quite a handful this chap here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:95.158.180.235), I only edit three CSKA Sofia players but I imagine they do it in all players of this club and/or the league. Since I feel the language barrier may be an insurmountable issue here, nothing left to do but revert and ignore I guess...

Cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 13:57, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * If they edit wrongly again, ideally correct the stats yourself and warn them with a templated warning at the next higher level; or
 * revert to the last correct version, if there is one, with a plain edit-summary saying "league matches only" or such like, and warn them as above; or
 * correct the stats yourself, again with a plain edit-summary saying "league matches only" or such like. If you do that, you don't need to remove theirs first: just edit to include the correct information.
 * Please don't just blind revert to an earlier version without checking it's correct (date unambiguously after the last match included, that sort of thing). And if you do template them, and it gets up past a level-4 final warning, report them to WP:AIV. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:31, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Adrien Rabiot
Hi there,

would it not suffice to say "...is a footballer" in the intro of this player? His international status is well established in the second part of said section. P.S. Please note I did not revert anything.

Cheers, happy holidays from Portugal --Quite A Character (talk) 11:43, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The editor removing it stated "He is not being considered for international selection at this time and missed the world cup", which in my opinion didn't constitute a decent reason for removing it, so I put it back. Given his current contractual disagreement, that'd be an argument for removing "plays for PSG" as well... If you believe you'd be improving the article for the reader by removing it, bearing in mind MOS:BIO, which says The lead sentence should describe the person as he or she is commonly described in reliable sources, feel free. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:09, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Diogo Gonçalo Baptista Pires
Don't worry, i'll find a proper storyline to this subject! This user does the same EVERY TIME, does not matter if the player plays ONE MINUTE in the Taça da Liga (or similar), they'll create the article (with the same "spectacular" outline, ALWAYS) and leave it like that for years if no one takes care of it. Modestly, I feel (and you already showed you beg to differ, by reverting) if storyline is going to be like that one is better off with just the infobox.

Attentively, sorry for any inconvenience --Quite A Character (talk) 14:47, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Working on subject now. A thin line i don't understand (and probably never will, after 12 years!), several articles this user has created (and by the way, don't bother contacting them as they won't reply, have not talked to anyone in TEN YEARS, have not written a summary, i think they once left a message regarding a page move or something, i wrote them two or three times, to noooooo avail) do not seem to meet WP:GNG even though they meet WP:NOTABILITY, so if they were to be deleted nothing would be lost, am i fair in this assumption?

Still referring to that thin line, I remember back in the day (don't ask me the name of the article as i won't remember, more than five years ago) an article being deleted and the chap had played at least once in pro football, because they did not meet GNG standards. José Luis Gómez Pérez, on the other hand, was allowed to stay because he met said standards (never played a pro match in his life).

What i am trying to convey is this user, User:Alexanderalgrim, values quantity (and lots of it!) over quality. No point in pinging/inviting to discussion, they won't bother the least :(

Cheers back, will notify when Mr. Pires' article is duly improved. --Quite A Character (talk) 19:36, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

DONE! From where i'm seeing it (but i completely understand the purpose of the red link, WP articles for way more modest clubs have been created), no need to write "Sporting Ideal" in box, ZEROZERO does not hold a candle to FDJ in terms of reliability, and the latter site names team as just "Ideal" (besides, no need to overelaborate, Ideal is not the name of any city, said ballclub hails from Ribeira Grande, Azores).

Cheers, glad to help --Quite A Character (talk) 21:19, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Nope, not complaining about the existence of Mr. Pérez's article, was just pointing out the technicality (I am sure the people who allowed the article to be created/remain - you say it has never been AfD I believe you of course, but I GUARANTEE you a discussion was held in the past regarding the article - knew what they were doing). You are also right about the "There's no requirement for an article to be fully formed when first created, or for the creator to develop it themselves" bit, I should not be so harsh on this particular user (after all, this is a TEAM project and I do forget it here and there, stupidly), but their silence really troubles me!

Club name: if you notice reference #7 in Mr. Pires' article (also from O Jogo), they are also addressed to as just "Ideal". Last but (definitely) not least, thanks for the language correction (will make the amendments right after I type "save" here), I thought "rock the boat" went both ways!

As always, a pleasure conversing with you, cheers and happy 2019 --Quite A Character (talk) 12:15, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Just talked to him regarding the GNG matter, : confirms such discussion was held. --Quite A Character (talk) 21:26, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Amateur Football Alliance
Hi Struway, I was wondering if you could do me a favour and have a quick look at to the Amateur Football Alliance article. I actually composed this back in February but held off while I tried to contact the AFA. I did get a reply from their chief exec saying he wouldn't have time to look until June/July, but this has now obviously passed. The information I've added/changed relates to the date of formation and the various names it went under. As this contradicts the official website, it'd be useful to have another eye on this, just to make sure I haven't made any glaring errors. Thanks, Nzd   (talk)  17:06, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem, thanks, It's been 'on hold' for nine months so whenever you have time  Nzd   (talk)  17:32, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for checking that over. The source I've used for that is a BNA one. I didn't have the foresight to save the article, and I've used up all of my e-mail addresses for the freebie views. I'm hoping Santa's got a credit card. I'll hold off until I've had a chance to check it. Thanks again, Nzd   (talk)  22:32, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yep, you are correct. It was a reference to the London Senior Cup. I have now made the change to the article, with this correction. Thanks for your help. Nzd   (talk)  23:34, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Simon Vukčević
Hi there,

just wondering: did you remove the Vital Football source from this chap's article because: 1 - source is unreliable; 2 - wording did not match source; 3 - to be involved in contract problems is not worth a mention? I have already addressed the other stuff needing (in your view) citation (subject's lack of minutes, team relegation), but please do notify of the other part so that i stop browsing the web for stuff that does not need mention/sourcing.

Cheers, thanks in advance --Quite A Character (talk) 19:10, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * My apologies, I thought I'd provided a meaningful edit summary for any of those where I did anything more than fixing a specific grammar/usage error (and other minor fixes). That one I obviously didn't.
 * Vital Football isn't even remotely a reliable source. It's a group of fansites where the pieces are written by young people for young people, and we can't use such a site to source something controversial about a living person. I had a quick look for suitable sourcing at the time, but could't find any. Blackburn Rovers was a complete mess at the time, but I couldn't find anything specifically about Mr Vukcevic. If you find confirmation in reliable sources, feel free to put something in, but not rumours. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:47, 1 January 2019 (UTC)


 * What do you think about this (https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/9652538.blackburn-rovers-blog-player-fall-outs-are-so-embarrassing/)? Reliable source indeed, but the player which is referred to as being involved in contractual disputes is Míchel Salgado. About Mr. Vukcevic, it is said "Well, we don’t actually know where he is at the moment", does this mean he went AWOL? Of course, i'm not going to insert anything in the man's biography without being 100% sure (during his time at Sporting he did have a reputation as a bit of a hot head, but that's about it), will await for your valuable input.


 * Cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 17:08, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Could mean anything, could mean nothing. He may have been absent, with or without leave, but we can't publish rumours unless they're explicit and attributable to rather more than a brief sentence in an opinion piece about the toxic mess that was BRFC 2011/12. Mr Salgado's contract issue is well known: he'd played 9 matches that season, and at 10 he'd qualify for another season's contract, and he wasn't getting one. If you want to write about Mr Vukcevic, you'd do better researching what he did do than keep chasing 'contract problems' that might never have been more than clickbait on a fansite. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:12, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I guess I agree with you there, no point in writing "vague" stuff in Mr. Vukcevic (or anywhere else for that matter), I have added another ref in his international career (first match for country ever); but all was not lost in this conversation of ours, I'll retrieve that which you showed me here to Mr. Salgado's piece. Thanks! --Quite A Character (talk) 10:56, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Good, did not even have to write anything in Salgado's piece, only retrieve the source (there was already one there, that way it gives more bulk I feel)! Added more sources for his Madrid career as well, cheers to you! --Quite A Character (talk) 12:09, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Kepa Arrizabalaga
Helping out, not sure i understand your question in the summary, but of course the subject has no "other" appearances of any sort for Bilbao B, this team plays league football exclusively.

Cheers (if your question meant anything else, please drop me a line so that i can be of further assistance if i can) --Quite A Character (talk) 16:28, 9 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Sorry to bother you, then. --Quite A Character (talk) 21:00, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I'll finalise the "interaction" here: sorry for misleading you in the original message but I totally forgot about this, of course Spanish reserve teams can compete in the play-offs ("other" appearances), provided they are not trying to promote to the level where the parent club is. : reminded of this, in their last edit/edit summary.

Attentively --Quite A Character (talk) 11:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Just re 15/16, I'm doubting myself now, was gonna change zeros to dashes for the 'other' column (supercopa) as he was already at valladolid by then, but it should then really be dashes for all the comps since he wasn't there to (not) play in any of them. Then the ROW of dashes would look extremely pointless - but it would be probably be more consistent! Thoughts? Crowsus (talk) 11:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

"Eligible but not selected". Hmmmm, I would insert a dash instead of a zero if Mr. Kepa did not even make bench. --Quite A Character (talk) 12:15, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Joan Tomàs Campasol
Thanks for double-checking and updating, if I had been troubled to look at SOCCERWAY all would been crystal clear! I am 99,99999999999999% sure this is the IP verbatim nuisance that : and I have been dealing with extensively the last years.

Not excusing my actions the least, just saying. Thank you again, cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 14:38, 16 January 2019 (UTC)


 * see - same editing pattern and geolocates to same area. GiantSnowman 14:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * My attention was attracted by the classy edit summary that accompanied the revert. Having discovered that the edit was correct and that Soccerway refs present in the article verified it, I took responsibility for it as permitted by policy. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:59, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'm not having a pop at you or anything, I'm just highlighting why QAC perhaps felt the need to revert. GiantSnowman 15:02, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * On a general note, if all these Greek IPs are Antony1821, is it not possible to have the relevant range(s) blocked? Or if not, how can we assume that anyone editing Greek football from those ranges, whether constructively or not, must be a block-evader? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:34, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I stay clear of making range blocks wherever I can, probably only done 2 or 3 in my time! GiantSnowman 17:50, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

I came here humbly, saying i was wrong and thanking you for reverting/updating, why the additional jab (i'm not stupid, i know it was due to the summary, it's kind of rethorical. Plus, i've done - unfortunately - much much worse in that department)? Continue the good work --Quite A Character (talk) 16:20, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * And had you not felt the need to ping an admin, I might not have felt the need to tell them why I visited the article in the first place.
 * Next time you want to revert an editor you believe to be evading a block, perhaps consider using your edit summary for something like "rv block evading sock, please see ..." and then a link to where they're blocked. And report the new block evader to WP:AIV or WP:SPI so that an admin can deal appropriately with them. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:34, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I pinged GS so that he would be aware of my report (what the feature is for, correct?), not to cry about anything. Case closed, thank you both for your attention (and boy, would i wish to start following on your suggestion and using CONCISE unidiotic summaries ONLY, how is that impossible for me i wonder). --Quite A Character (talk) 17:58, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Infobox years
OK but when i read the infobox, i don't understand when the player leave the club.if he quit at the mid or at the end of the season.--Thibaut02 (talk) 15:42, 18 January 2019 (UTC) For example when i watch Dominic Solanke infobox, i don't understand if he leave Liverpool in summer or in winter.--Thibaut02 (talk) 16:01, 18 January 2019 (UTC).


 * many others, we can not be sure and if we want to know quickly without to read all the article, neither!--Thibaut02 (talk) 16:41, 18 January 2019 (UTC).

Removing height
Respectfully disagree, but I'll try to remember in future. GiantSnowman 12:30, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying! GiantSnowman 12:44, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

109.154.129.183
Hi User vandal. See: Oscar and Hernanes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.154.129.183 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fcbjuvenil (talk • contribs) 18:24, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Sergio Asenjo (and many many others, thus)
Hello there,

just to clarify i did not INVENT anything as you mention in your edit summary. I merely went for a neater presentation of the publisher (or "publisher" in quotation marks as you chose to describe it), that was all. But of course, display stays how you want (i say "you" and not "the majority" because i have never encountered any problems in this department until now, for many years). AGAIN i ask (can't remember your original reply), if all the websites in the world have an ending to them (pt, uk, es, fr, com, etc, etc), why in some cases it's mandatory to display them here and in other instances so the opposite?

Cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 21:27, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The publisher parameter is for the name of the person or organisation that publishes the website, not for a description of what the website's about. If you can show me where on that website it says that it's published by something called European Football – I've looked, and I can't find anything to suggest who it's published by, which rather implies it isn't a reliable source, but that's a different point – I'll be happy to change them back. In the absence of any information about a publisher, there's no alternative to using the name of the website, which isn't European Football.
 * Original reply at User talk:Struway2/Archive 11.
 * Incidentally, I had no idea how many pages it's used on: people always used to use NFT, or a country-specific source. What changed? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 21:51, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back at me so swiftly and thoroughly (me, i will only re-reply now has i have just logged in for the day)! Nothing has changed as far as i'm aware, i started using that as a source for international stats (not saying i was the first to do it, just saying my part) five/six years ago, leaving NFT.com as an external link. As the vast majority of footy users/admins found it to be reliable, it sort of "stuck".

About the aforementioned site's name: i may have incurred in an error there (or not, i reiterate only you have reverted me in that regard, not saying you are wrong in doing so, i just don't like the (new) aesthetics of it), but i deduced the "EU" in "EU FOOTBALL" stood for "European", hence named the publisher like that and (AGAIN) it stuck; their home page does read "European national football teams 1872-2019 matches database", after all; thus, on a related note, could we not retain the "website" field (that looks exactly like that of a newspaper, that is why i try to avoid it so much) but name it "EU Football" (i still do not understand the use/purpose for the ".info" ending)?

Again, sorry for any inconvenience and cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 15:25, 9 February 2019 (UTC)


 * No additional thoughts (to my last lines)? --Quite A Character (talk) 20:17, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Category:Egremont F.C. players has been nominated for discussion
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Denis Thwaites
Hi Struway, do you still have access to Birmingham City: A Complete Record? When you created the Denis Thwaites article it was added as a genref. It ended up in a 'Links' section. I've just moved it up, but it'd be useful if the relevant bits could be inline cited (e.g. the month for him turning pro, which I've just cn'd).BTW (as I've just left a similar message for ), I realise I've never given you the props you deserve for the absolute mountain of articles you've created. I've nearly finished going through (and subcats) and it's safe to say that you created most of the footy articles, and that's just scratching the surface. Awesome work over many years! Thanks, Nzd   (talk)  23:59, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Nice work. Just noticed in my travels down the list of Stocktonians that Keith Webster might not be one after all. Hugman now has Newcastle, and it seems they've changed their mind in the last couple of months looking at your accessdate... Nzd   (talk)  22:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Doubts
Hello there,

reading this source (please see here in the sixth paragraph https://observador.pt/2017/06/27/bruno-fernandes-o-miudo-que-comecou-a-rolar-na-capital-do-hoquei/, with a bit of help from GT of course, i'll do the rest should you need help), would you agree Bruno Fernandes (footballer, born 1994) played his last year as junior with Novara Calcio? Doing the same here (http://epoca1.plazadeportiva.com/ver/10219/jason--primer-canterano-que-debuta-de-la-mano-de-caparros-.html, around the fourth paragraph at least), would you agree Jason (Spanish footballer)'s La Liga debut was also his pro debut meaning Levante's reserves were/are not professional?

Will never be able to prove anything (so, out of respect for the other user i will not say it is the case), but surely looks as if i'm being hounded out from WP. I created the WP:FOOTY thread to show them i was not making anything up about Leonardo Jardim, was called pathetic for engaging in petty edit wars (on a related topic, said user also says i finally admitted on their talk i knew nothing about what i was doing whilst reading sources for what i intended to prove for the aforementioned subjects; i did no such thing, i know what i read!). Hey no worries, there's life outside WP still :)

Attentively, thank you in advance with whatever you can provide --Quite A Character (talk) 18:10, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * To me, "his last year as junior" would imply he didn't play senior football until after that year, not as is clearly the case during.
 * Don't think "professional debut" is something I'd write (about modern football, anyway: was different in the days when amateurism was a thing). I don't entirely know what it's meant to mean. See e.g. para 2 line 1 of Wayne Rooney: made his professional debut for the club in 2002 at the age of 16. He certainly didn't, because in England a player can't turn pro until they're 17. But he wasn't playing just for the love of the game, just like Jason wasn't playing for Levante's reserves just for the love of the game. So I don't know. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:12, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Prem runner-up
Not that I'm aware of. But seeing that the PL themselves don't confer any sort of trophy or medal to players who are runners-up I'm not convinced that we should. If we did, what criteria would we use for inclusion: a certain amount of appearances, just being part of the squad, a passing mention in a reliable source? Mattythewhite (talk) 13:03, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I've never been convinced by the idea that no medal → no honour. Although if we were using that argument, the EFL do apparently give out a Championship r/u trophy and medals, so it'd be awfully inconsistent to admit Championship r/u as an honour but not Prem. Or for that matter, allowing current second-tier runners-up but not those for the same league before they started giving out a trophy. And sourcing is a problem that applies to any league honour where and when there are/were no clear published rules for allocating medals, which is most of them.
 * The serious answer to inclusion criteria for runners-ups is "the same as for winners", whatever that is: official rules, or a "regular first XI" in a history book, or Barry J. Hugman's skill and judgment, or whatever. If you were writing an article about a player who'd been ever-present for a team that won the Northern League in the 1890s, would you include it among his honours, based on appearances? I would. But I wouldn't include someone who'd only played twice. Some would call that OR, I call it common sense. Same approach should apply to runners-ups, IMO. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:54, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Mr Kelly
Thanks - not the first time Frost has got something not quite right. GiantSnowman 19:16, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Bruno (footballer)
Hi there,

seeing as you have been keeping a close eye on this article, could you please add an extra two cents in the user (which I have reverted)'s page? WP:OVERDETAIL (three matches in a row or similar, then mention to one where he DID NOT take part), and an honour which is not such (I have been made aware that runner-up finishes in the Championship give you a medal, but that is not the case in Spain - or Portugal).

If I engaged in any major wrongdoing, please revert/compose and sorry for any inconvenience. Cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 12:55, 9 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Explained the guidelines politely and to the best of my abilities, they wrote it again. Maybe you will hit home (and OK, maybe I am missing something - past WP:FOOTY threads - and promotions now count as honours, regardless of country, but that overdetail has to go)? --Quite A Character (talk) 13:37, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

I have re-added the FA CUP run (with refs), but not those three unassuming league matches. And before you comment: yes (maybe) yet another wrong usage of rollback, but i'm sure you'd agree that when you have five or more edits they are easier undone like that; when i realised i had reverted 100% correct box/chart updates i immediately reinstated them. For the second rollback, i have no defence/excuse.

Cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 14:45, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

User has replied, telling me they won't add it again. About the (supposed) honour, do re-add it if a consensus has indeed been reached on the matter (of course WP has its own set of rules, but i repeat a second place is not an honour in Spain no matter how great a promotion tastes for a club). --Quite A Character (talk) 15:18, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Sebastian Larsson
Hello, it shows HERE that for the 2008/09 season he made 39 appearances in the Championship. --Skyblueshaun (talk) 13:29, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

2018–19 Birmingham City F.C. season question
Hi Struway, just wondering if Pep Clotet should be added as interim head coach on the 2018–19 Birmingham City F.C. season Infobox as it covers the 18/19 season up until 30 June? JMHamo (talk) 17:40, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

George Forbes
I've disambiguated both footballers by YOB, and redirect the (footballer) dab to the main dab page. GiantSnowman 09:34, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Advice/Help
Hello, I am seeking help or advice on how to block IP addresses (editors without log-ins). This one certain editor is doing live match updates on the 2019 Africa Cup of Nations. I have tried warning him by reverting edits etc but they continue to do live updates. How can I go about this? Thanks in advance. --Skyblueshaun (talk) 14:46, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Getting stats
Im getting the stats from the English National Football Archive yearbook 2019 MickyDee8514 (talk) 20:38, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Height
Yes, I know, and you are fully aware the issue we have with footballer heights. Citing that directly - even if it is cited elsewhere in the article - is always preferred. GiantSnowman 11:20, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Alvaro
Sorry, I just forgot to delete the squad number, no idea if he will be number 9! Cam (talk) 11:09, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

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Lalbiakzuala
Thanks - I couldn't locate a Soccerway profile for him to verify the claim. GiantSnowman 09:40, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Josh Heaton
Views on this being ready for mainspace? GiantSnowman 10:09, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed - ✅ GiantSnowman 10:23, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

PenguinsElite
I see that you've been involved with three investigations by the subject user (all of which followed the same username pattern}. I have given a description on whether to do a WP:BAN on the user for not obeying the WP:SOCK rule. The discussion can be found at "Administrators' noticeboard". Iggy (Swan) 21:44, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It's also good that you've been spotting the socks regularly, depending on the time when the edits are made. Iggy (Swan) 11:29, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Soccerway
Hi, I was wondering if you were able to help me out. I wanted to create a template (LebanonFG) in the same manner Soccerway is done, out of https://lebanonfg.com/. The default player page is https://lebanonfg.com/player/(number) (e.g. https://lebanonfg.com/player/27). I'm having difficulty in creating it on my own as there is too much code I don't understand. Let me know, thanks! Nehme1499 (talk) 10:32, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help! I'll try asking around. If you need anything from me don't hesitate to ask. Nehme1499 (talk) 15:33, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

AWB
You mean heights? No, I simply forgot to change the edit summary. GiantSnowman 16:55, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Joe McClelland
Which book is being used to verify which content? There aren't even any page numbers provided! And I can;t believe you simply blindly revrted to add in phrases like " the player shortage was naturally & tragically exasperated" and "The difficulties reached crisis point" etc. GiantSnowman 17:42, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 * In fairness it's been that way since 2007 and it's an embarassment tbh. I don't have a clue what sources do and do not verify given that when the article was created in 2007 it had 2 books as 'references' and now, with near-identical content, it has 3... GiantSnowman 18:06, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

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Sorry for the belated reply, but only logged now. Before you even sent this, was thinking of writing to you because i should have used Mr. Ruben's talkpage at the very least before reverting/composing, or messaged you - apologies for that.

Many many many thanks for what you just showed me, i sincerely thought "unassuming" could be used to describe things and not only people. Always Learning, as one of my former accounts said :) I'll change it accordingly in the article, if you haven't already.

Do continue the (very) hard work, thanks again and cheers --Quite A Character (talk) 19:33, 6 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Done, is "disappointing" correct to describe his spell at Évian? Methinks so. --Quite A Character (talk) 22:11, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Will do it, no worries! --Quite A Character (talk) 15:33, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Re: Potter
Hi!

No worries, it's all good. I did edit quite fast, so things like that tend to happen. Have a good day! Arbero (talk) 13:52, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

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Precious
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I have missed a lot of trolling during my month's break...
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 * An enemy has talken to another enemy

Struway. Why protect the bully campbell bully? Seanocuinn (talk) 12:39, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Your correct. One word extra. Seanocuinn (talk) 12:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

A Record of Post-war Scottish League Players 1946/47 to 2017/18
Hi, I saw at Phil O'Donnell (footballer) that you used A Record of Post-war Scottish League Players 1946/47 to 2017/18 for much of the Scottish club stats. I was wondering if you would recommend it, and if so where you bought it? Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 22:12, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Marvin Harriot(t)
Happy for it to be boldly moved based on the sources you have put forward, no need for a formal RM! GiantSnowman 12:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Online books
Hey, can you let me know if any more books like this become available for free online? I used the 1980 annual and the Blackburn and Arsenal players books too. Thanks!--EchetusXe 17:23, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Here you go.--EchetusXe 04:11, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

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Iggy the Swan part 2
(full red box text on this revision)
 * After at least eight weeks of not having a single football being kicked and HM Government restrictions in place, I am not certain that this football season would be completed on time (30 June 2020) but at least "Mike Matthews17" has not been editing either. It is also lucky that Tommy Winship does not have to worry about the situation. And I am also hoping our football clubs around England, Scotland and Wales would continue to run normally without being expelled and move into a newer version (e.g. the Hereford or Halifax teams as recent). Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 23:11, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Barry Siddall
Was he ever at Birmingham? An IP had added him to the article's infobox.--EchetusXe 12:26, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Screen reader problem
Hello Struway. As I don't seem to be getting much of an answer at the template talk page, could you tell me what the issue is with screenreaders and the football squad template? As I mentioned there, I installed one and it read squadlists using the original football squad format fine – the only imperfect element was it reading out the headings again (Number, player, position) when it got halfway through the list and switched to the second column of players. Cheers, Number   5  7  21:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Birmingham City F.C.
I don't like it when idiots claim this club to be what the recent IP address said. Every club has the potential to be promoted at the end of the season. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 11:55, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Jimmy Robertson (footballer, born 1910)
Sorry I forgot to add a ref. Litster confirmed the E was for Edward, and a ScotlandsPeople check confirmed the death year/place (he's the only person who would fit the criteria). I have now added that to the article - it needs free registration to see the search result, but it's publicly accessible - but if you don't feel that's admissible please take it out. Cheers, Crowsus (talk) 10:11, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

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Jim Tinnion
A typo in my script, apologies. GiantSnowman 09:41, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Joe Powell (footballer, born 1870)
It's not my script, it's the default one. We'll have to raise at WT:AWB and see if they can exclude edits to references. GiantSnowman 18:47, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Peter Doherty (footballer)
Hi. I was wondering do you have access to the English Football Archive and if you do could you please add his management statistics to the article? Thanks.--EchetusXe 23:04, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Aitor Karanka
On the article Aitor Karanka when you did the reversion you stated it was vandalism. Obviously you do not know the word vandalism as this was not any form of vandalism. It was WP:AGF and should have been stated as such. Otherwise it’s a personal attack as I did no such thing. Why is it “Spanish former” and not “former Spanish” as the latter is proper English? Before reverting you should double check because you re-introduced the other errors into the article by just mass reverting it. Thanks, Bakertheacre Chat/What I Baked 09:48, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks
For your help on the Setien page. It's a dumpster fire right now and my PC can't keep up. Porterjoh (talk) 20:47, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Conlin
Sorry, fixed now, I didn't rename years1 / clubs1 properly and it spoils the display. I did preview it but didn't spot that for some reason, think I was concentrating on the caps etc matching up right. Crowsus (talk) 14:18, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of William Clarke (footballer) for deletion
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infobox vs article italicization
The  parameter effective removes italics from the article title, but it also removes the italics from the infobox. Is there a way around that other than manually italicizing the album title in the infobox? Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:56, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh dear... I was doing that because someone asked me this morning why some article titles were in italics, wrt one that shouldn't have been, and I worked out that it was the album infobox causing it, so thought it'd be a good thing to fix. Serves me right for going outside my comfort zone. In answer to your question, I've no idea, wouldn't know where to ask. I'm happy (willing, anyway) to go round manually italicising what I've messed up if that's needed, but it's too late to start now. Thanks for noticing the issue. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 21:11, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I thought it might have been overlooked. Well, I caught two of them. I find it odd that they would have the ability to remove the affect on the article title but not keep it for the infobox. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:23, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks
Hello, User:Struway2. I am still unfamiliar with en-Wikipedia. Thanks for your help to let me know my mistake.

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 * You're welcome! cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:38, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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Sock
I think our friend is back as, what do you think? GiantSnowman 16:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, IMO. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:10, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocked, thanks. GiantSnowman 16:16, 22 November 2020 (UTC)