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Namadhari
Many communities in Srilanka Bali was a popular legend. Bandari community of Maharashtra were also used to consider bali as diety in their festivel. Also consider fact that Dweep in Sanskrit means Island. corresponding pali word is ila, which in Tamil is ilam, malayalam is izham and old kannada is ida. 122.166.13.197 (talk) 11:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Olden times Srilanka was also known Haledipa (in simhala). The people were called haledeevaru. They were warriors and expert in naval exercises. Many king from india emplyed them as Soldiers. Many costal indian kingdom had their naval service too. They bilieved to have racial similaries with Villavar of south india and closely related with Chera kingdom. 59.164.186.117 (talk) 10:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Karnataka State gazetteer clearly says dhevaru was the old name of namadhari. It also says they were migrants from island. please read following

http://books.google.com/books?id=RiMLAQAAIAAJ&q=deevaru&dq=deevaru&lr=&ei=ZVd9SqqHD5CwkATarvisCg

http://books.google.com/books?lr=&ei=J1Z9Sq3yCoPqkwTNnIGRCg&q=deevaru&sa=N&start=10

This article should add more references .i found one such article whcih will be helpful http://books.google.com/books?id=tUYWbzjB1S4C&pg=PA276&dq=halepaik&lr=&ei=8Fh9SqTwH4askATQ5JiyCg#v=onepage&q=halepaik&f=false

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.75.43.73 (talk) 10:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

May 2010
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how do i consider your edits good faith when you have only edited articles related to namadhari.it very much signifies you aren't a neutral contributor.secondly if you look at population figures of three regions uttara kannada,tulu nadu and kerala.then the population figures and social status of communities as similar the most populous groups in north canara is namadhari in tulu nadu the billava and in kerala the ezhavas.all were invovled in toddy trade.have some sort of connection to sri lanka.secondly ahichatra origins of tulu brahmins,namboodiri,nair and bunts is supported by their deep reverance of serpents .the scythian practice of matilineality by bunts and nairs is another proof.to claim scythian origins by namadhari is a hoax neither there is a practice of matrinlineality or serpent worship or sharp caucasian feautures among namadhari.and again i remind u blogs are unverifiable and citations should be credible neutral.15:37, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

you consider krishna and arjuna as historical figures.there is dispute on it.any student of history knows that.secondly the scythians tribes did have serpent as their totem and practiced matriarchy.hence the naga scythian link,even jats in north india who are linked to the scythians are serpent worshippers and there are rajput clans too that practice serpent worship.notably the Bais Rajput. and another think quoting another wiki article as source is not accepted Linguisticgeek (talk) 15:43, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Sir,u acccept that your addition to nagavanshi status is wrong.hence i issued a warning.and not seeing a halepalika well i seen enough of them in karwar and gokarna as also the nadavara and havyakas.out of the three only the nadavara and havyakas show feautures that clearly are caucasian.another thing the term caucasian is a wide term it brings under it's gambit the aryans,scythians,mediterranean people.some even consider dravidians being caucasian though that is debatable.hence some namdharis or for that matter even the scheduled castes have slightly sharper feautures.but that doesn't make them aryan or scythian.secondly why clamour to a status of an invading tribe when nowadays the politics in karnataka is all about the bhumiputra.ok that poltical part was unwarranted but what i meant was that havyakas have seriously looked down upon the namadhari.they wouldn't have done so if they were an accompanying people.also the sri lankan origin is the most credible one.the sinhalese speak an aryan language and are considered a mixed race maybe thats the reason why a minuscle minority of billava,ezhavas and namadhari have sharp feautures and matrinlineality among the namadhari i don't think show me the citations.also serpent worships rituals of the bunts and nairs are not worshipping just stones they invovlve elaborate ritual dances the Nagaradhane and Sarpam Thullal.and by the way simple forms of serpent worship are practicsed by all hindus on naga panchami.what does that mean they are also nagavanshis.Linguisticgeek (talk) 16:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

sir please i have no more time too indulge in this debate.u make another uncited addition it will be reverted not by me but the admins and a block follows.anyways your edit history shows a certain conflict of interest thank you.16:23, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

firstly the practice of sati is not there among bunts and nairs.they have always treated women with great respect.infact women from these communities even ruled.second the havyakas treat halepaikas as very inferior people(i don't think scythians or people who accompanyed them from ahichatra would be treated such).also nadavara of north canara are not bunts.the nadavara and havyaka are the only land owning castes of north canara.and nadavara do have causcoid feautures.i think you have serious bias against nadavara.perhaps their history of mistreating halepaikas is the reason.about matrilineality well even billava and ezhava practice it.it is considered they adopted theses practice from the upper castes.whereas the quote you showed me is only about balis.it does not prove that namadhari adhere to matrilineal inheritance,which is passing of property from maternal uncle to nephew which happens among nairs and bunts and even among payyanur nambudiri brahmins.that is matrinlieality not balis.also your assertion that all communities were matrilineal before is wrong.and then you also agree that sarpam thullal and nagaradhane are real nagavanshi practices which are practiced by bunts and nairs.and there is no such practice among halepaikas.also i have not lost out of ammunition.you using such words show all you are interested in pushing your pov in articles.anyways you have already accepted that your addition to nagavanshi and indo-scythian status was wrong do i need to say more.Linguisticgeek (talk) 05:09, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Your peer review request
Thank you Tej. I will look in to it when I find time. But by looking at the discussion above I thought I have no familiarity with Namadharis or Halepaikas but if they are same as Deeva or Idiga, I know quite a bit about the community since we lived and worked with them closely. I know a little about Bunts too. ~rAGU (talk)

Please refer to my talk page to see the answer. ~rAGU (talk)

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now since you like to get personal getting a government job on reservations and showing it off on your page does not make you knowlegeable either.you intent is very much clear in pushing pov.do you think anyone excepts your crap.peer review well the article is so factually incorrect that it will not even get start class status.Linguisticgeek (talk) 14:59, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

good joke like that.for matters your paltry earnings given by government of india maybe 30000 won't even get you an entry at places i have lunch in.maybe you should go to the sixth pay commission and ask for a raise.second i am not and obc hater.just have no respect for people like u who want to show a glorious past and then beg for reservation calling themselves oppressed.and anyways i think some of your bosses in the ias and ifs are nairs.jealous of them eh ? maybe thats the reason you want pass youself as a nair in front of north indians. u wrote on my page all northies call south indian tamils or darkies.haha talk abt stereotryping.they have never called me one.bcoz i am a true scythian not a wannabe like you.maybe i have a superiority complex but then it's always better than to be a wannabe like you.now buzz off and stop writing on my talk page i won't reply got to do some serious editing not indulge in pov pushing.and clearly observe your observe your face in the mirror tommorrow,the truth will dawn that you are not a scythian.do you know how a scythian looks like see Shashi Tharoor or Aishwarya Rai and then compare it to your face.bye and happy living a life as a boring b grade civil servant :-)Linguisticgeek (talk) 15:23, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

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Namadhari
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