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Tech News: 2018-40
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Ordinary pages can no longer be loaded as javascript. You could do this using  in the URL. Only fully protected pages in the MediaWiki: namespace or user javascript subpages can be loaded as javascript now. This is for better security.

Problems
 * New and updated translations from translatewiki.net will not reach the wikis for a while. You can still translate messages on translatewiki.net. The Wikimedia wikis will be updated with the new translations later. This is because of work on the translation system.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 October. It will be on all wikis from 4 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * You can join the meeting with the Wikimedia Foundation Search Platform team. The meeting will be on 3 October at 15:00 UTC. See how to join if you want to know how the search function works or have questions.

Future changes
 * Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2018). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Justlettersandnumbers • L235
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Bgwhite • HorsePunchKid • J Greb • KillerChihuahua • Rami R • Winhunter

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Cyberpower678 • Deryck Chan • Oshwah • Pharos • Ragesoss • Ritchie333

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Guerillero • NativeForeigner •  Snowolf • Xeno

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a request for comment, the process for appointing interface administrators has been established. Currently only existing admins can request these rights, while a new RfC has begun on whether it should be available to non-admins.
 * There is an open request for comment on Meta regarding the creation a new user group for global edit filter management.

Technical news
 * Partial blocks should be available for testing in October on the Test Wikipedia and the Beta-Cluster. This new feature allows admins to block users from editing specific pages and in the near-future, namespaces and uploading files. You can expect more updates and an invitation to help with testing once it is available.
 * The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team is currently looking for input on how to measure the effectiveness of blocks. This is in particular related to how they will measure the success of the aforementioned partial blocks.
 * Because of a data centre test, you will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia projects for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee has, by motion, amended the procedure on functionary inactivity.
 * The community consultation for 2018 CheckUser and Oversight appointments has concluded. Appointments will be made by October 11.
 * Following a request for comment, the size of the Arbitration Committee will be decreased to 13 arbitrators, starting in 2019. Additionally, the minimum support percentage required to be appointed to a two-year term on ArbCom has been increased to 60%. ArbCom candidates who receive between 50% and 60% support will be appointed to one-year terms instead.
 * Nominations for the 2018 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission are being accepted until 12 October. These are the editors who help run the ArbCom election smoothly. If you are interested in volunteering for this role, please consider nominating yourself.

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Tech News: 2018-41
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Education Program extension was removed from all Wikimedia projects. You can use the Programs and Events Dashboard or the Fountain instead.

Problems
 * There was a problem when you copied and pasted from a table with the visual editor. It could add  where it shouldn't be. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
 * Because of the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Tech News: 2018-42
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Some pages, edits and users disappeared for a short while after the server switch. Missing content and users was fixed within a day. Some preferences and other things might take a few more days to fix.
 * Wikis are updated with new and updated translations from translatewiki.net again. This will happen once a week. The developers are working on fixing the problem so we can have translation updates more often again.

Changes later this week
 * When you create an abuse filter that prevents edits you can now write a specific error message for it. Before this all abuse filters that prevented edits had the same error message.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 October. It will be on all wikis from 18 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * There will be no more meetings with the Editing team. This is because not enough Wikimedians were interested. To tell developers which bugs you think are the most important you can use Phabricator as normal.
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Disruptive IP
Hi TSD, would you mind having a look at the contribs of for me? Thanks! ...  CJ [a Kiwi] in    Oz   11:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for bringing this to my attention . I have issued them a warning in an attempt to give them one more chance, though their activities could have warranted an immediate block. If they persist, please let me know and I will deal with it. -- The SandDoctor Talk 18:34, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Appreciate it! ...  CJ [a Kiwi] in    Oz   21:12, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Blocked them for 24 hours per their summary and continued edit warring. -- The SandDoctor Talk 23:32, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. They also posted a number of very distasteful messages on my talk page.  ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in    Oz   05:12, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi again, looks like our friend is back, using different IPs this time.  and .  This makes pretty clear it's the same guy, as does this on my talk page.  ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in    Oz   05:43, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up . At this point, I would consider it inactionable since the IPs cannot be blocked as block evasion or anything as 65. is not currently blocked and the reports are a day or so old, but definitely something I shall keep my eye on. Thanks for bringing this up! (cc ) -- The SandDoctor Talk 05:46, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Surely one or all deserve a warning (at the very least) for incivility and re WP:NOT? ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in    Oz   06:02, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It looks like the new 5. IP might be a separate person. The IPv6 IP is very likely related to the 65. ip IMO. there are more edits from the IPv6 IP in it's range as well. SQL Query me!  01:16, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.
 * Backlog


 * Community Wishlist Proposal
 * There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
 * Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!


 * Project updates
 * ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
 * There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.


 * New scripts
 * User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js(info) — A new script created for quickly placing copyvio-revdel on a page.

Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)  20:49, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-43
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 October. It will be on all wikis from 25 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The Community Wishlist Survey begins on 29 October. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 29 October to 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.

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Tak #3
Hello. Could improve bot to adding space instead of underscore character in parameters? Eurohunter (talk) 13:00, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, the bot makes use of the substitution trick and underscores are used within Infobox album itself for the values. Based on that, it could not be done if using the trick. Take this edit for instance in which I did just change it in the code, as you can see, the code change had no effect since it is the proper/official way per the template itself. It has already done around 100 thousand pages this way. Also, that would not be an "improvement" visually or in the source editing, rather a zero sum change based on personal preference. Everyone is probably going to have a different opinion on this.
 * With that said, I do appreciate you coming forward with suggestions and don't want to discourage you doing so in the future as well . -- The SandDoctor Talk 15:08, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail!
SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 16:20, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Replied . -- The SandDoctor Talk 16:23, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

hi
nice to meetyou -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adtoglobal (talk • contribs) 09:34, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You too, how may I help you? -- The SandDoctor Talk 15:16, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Task 3 Infobox album etc
Have you got a list of articles that have potential string module errors? i.e Where the bot has detected a problem and self reverted. If you have can I have a copy please, so that I can start ploughing through it to fix the problem articles. - X201 (talk) 08:27, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It can now be found under "errors", "errors2", and "errors_mac". I cannot guarantee that there are no duplicates in those datasets at this time. I will compile them etc later if you like. As for the running of the bot, I seem to remember the bot being significantly faster. I see if it is possible to speed it up any today (unfortunately my workstation isn't cooperating with pybind11 right now, so can't run it on the 8700k) I will probably need the weekend. -- The SandDoctor Talk 13:33, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm surprised that there are only six errors though. Will that list update automatically or do you have to manually upload it? - X201 (talk) 14:28, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The bot updates its list internally (in install location under the folder it creates called "errors") on its own, I just put them on GitHub at that moment in time so yes, I will have to manually update/commit & push it. The bot has no coding for committing to GitHub. The bot skips anything in Module:String errors, so the errors there are ones that weren't in it already, but the bot inadvertently added to. That keeps the number extremely low, the self-revert was an addon to keep the number of issues as low as possible and it appears to have worked as I haven't seen any issues reported since its implementation (or before if memory serves). The way the bot works is:
 * Make the edit
 * Review the edit just saved, does the page now contain Module:String errors where it didn't before? If not, move on, if so, revert self so long as the bot was the last editor but not the one before that (second last).
 * Module:String errors would be a good one to run through first as the bots should never conflict. Hope that helps. -- The SandDoctor Talk 15:12, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I've generated a list from the String Module Errors cat, that's given me 3000 to be going on with. Will clear the Infobox album errors first, then see what's left. - X201 (talk) 15:45, 25 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, just to say, just caused a "String Module Error: Match not found" message with this edit. &#8209;&#8209; Yodin T 09:59, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Fixed by adding TBA.
 * Shouldn't the bot also have substituted Singles? Jc86035 (talk) 11:30, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

I've added some of the capitalized parameters for Singles into the tracking system. Would it be possible to change the bot task to substitute that template if it's in the category? Thanks, Jc86035 (talk) 17:39, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, there is already a separate task for doing that not dependant on the category in question.
 * It appears that the very next edit was also the bot reverting itself, which means that it caught it and is therefore working as intended. That task checks its own work, I am not sure what happened there as it appears it caught itself previously on that page. -- The SandDoctor Talk 20:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-44
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can post proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals until 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The wikis now have a content security policy report. This means that you might get a warning in your javascript console when you load external resources in your user scripts. For security reasons it is recommended that you don't do this. It might not be possible to load external resources in your scripts in the future.

Problems
 * Your watchlist can show which changes you have already seen. This did not work for a few days. It has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 October. It will be on all wikis from 1 November (calendar).
 * The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer available. It will be removed from Special:Preferences. It has not been the standard editor for a long time. It was replaced by the 2010 wikitext editor.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Fixer Bot and chronology templates
Hello! I have a bunch of album articles on my watchlist, and I've been casually following the adventures of DeprecatedFixerBot as it updated the chronology and extra chronology parameters. Things seemed to be going swimmingly, but it got confused with this one for some reason. I've fixed the article, but maybe you could take a look at this and see what you think. Thanks. — Mudwater (Talk) 06:18, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * That is indeed curious. My initial assessment is that it appears that that occurred since someone else had included the date in a format that it was not expecting, so it just copied & pasted it. Probably a glitch which isn't widespread, but I will look into it further tomorrow night, okay? I have stopped the bot task in the meantime. -- The SandDoctor Talk 06:27, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Good, thanks! — Mudwater (Talk) 06:35, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * P.S. Most albums don't have a slash in their title, but that one does. Maybe that has something to do with it.  — Mudwater (Talk) 06:38, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Could be it, but again, that is without me going through the code as I don't have time to at the moment. I shall get back to you with more when I find out myself. It will be a day or two as the next couple are fairly busy off-wiki for me. -- The SandDoctor Talk 06:42, 30 October 2018 (UTC)