User talk:The Night Watch

'''It is easy to do the "popular" thing ... it is harder to do the "right" thing. ''' Be kind to one another, it's important.

Congratulations
Congrats on getting through a difficult RfA, may you use the mop well. SportingFlyer  T · C  14:38, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Adding my congratulations and best wishes. Donner60 (talk) 03:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Five Nights at Freddy's: Help Wanted
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Your GA nomination of Five Nights at Freddy's: Help Wanted
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Your GA nomination of The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
The article The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of TrademarkedTWOrantula -- TrademarkedTWOrantula (talk) 01:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
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Your GA nomination of The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
The article The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom for comments about the article, and Talk:The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom/GA2 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of TrademarkedTWOrantula -- TrademarkedTWOrantula (talk) 21:03, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Good to see that! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

I like to see Appalachian Spring on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed), and I also made it my story. How do you like the statue (look up places)? - I was undecided so show three versions ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:21, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 May newsletter
The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.

The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:
 * with 707 points, mostly from 45 good article nomination reviews and 12 good articless about radio and television;
 * with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 did you know nominations about coinage and history;
 * with 552 points, mostly from a featured article about the 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season, three featured lists, and two good articles;
 * with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player John Pulman, two featured lists, and one good article;
 * with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three good articles.

The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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Million Award for The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Congratulations! - Today's TFA, Felix M. Warburg House, was written by Vami_IV and Epicgenius, introduced: "This article is about another of the great houses that once lined Fifth Avenue in New York. Specifically, this is the mansion of Felix M. Warburg, a Jewish financier who ignored fears of anti-Semitic reprisal to his decided to build himself a big Gothic manor in the middle of New York City. Although the Warburgs no longer remain, their legacy does: the museum is now the home of the Jewish Museum (Manhattan) and the building largely survives as they left it. It's a beautiful building and I hope you will all enjoy it."! - in memory --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for improving articles in May! - Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
Hi there! Phase I of the Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
 * Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
 * Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
 * Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
 * Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
 * Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
 * Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
 * Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed

Question from Beulaah (09:46, 28 May 2024)
Hello, I am new here. I want to start with the copyedits. How do I start? Are there any particular tips for starters like me? --Beulaah (talk) 09:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @Beulaah, so sorry for the late reply. You can find a guide for copyediting articles here, and a good page that you might start on is here. Welcome to Wikipedia, and if you have any questions, please do ask!  The Night Watch     (talk)   23:24, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

NPP
Hi there, I hope you are well. I'd like to get some feedback on whether I'm currently eligible for the NPP right. I am an active reviewer of AfC and participated in several AfDs with in-depth discussions. Could you please review my edits and provide feedback on whether I'm ready to to get this right? Thanks! Grab Up -  Talk  15:51, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Was the feedback provided yesterday at User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ not adequate? Hey man im josh (talk) 19:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I want to get feedback, other than extraordinary, from someone I haven't talked before. Extraordinary's feedback is not bad, but it is repetitive. Grab Up  -  Talk  01:19, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with Extraordinary Writ there, and there isn't much that I would add. I think you're moving a bit too quickly right now, and some more time for patrolling with AfC and tagging for notability etc. be good. Applying any sooner than that would be premature in my opinion, especially now that it has been only about a month since your last NPR request was declined. Just develop a meaningful track record and another admin might be willing to grant eventually if they find you have enough experience.  The Night Watch     (talk)   01:27, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey,
 * Thanks for your reply, but I wanted independent feedback. Josh came and just finished by sharing extraordinary feedback. I knew after seeing his feedback, no one would want to differ with him.
 * Whatever, you said, “Just develop a meaningful track record.” Does that mean I don’t have a good track record now? Are my AfD participations still WP:SNOW, or have I engaged in deeper discussions to show my knowledge? I want to know where my main problem is!
 * Thanks for the reply. I will acknowledge and try to make myself better. Grab Up  -  Talk  01:52, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * When I mean a meaningful track record, I mean demonstrating your understanding of Wikipedia policies beyond deletion and just spend some more time with AfC and elsewhere to practice. Perhaps for about two months. Maybe continue your existing work and perhaps start patrolling the new pages feed and doing maintenance taggings. And I recommend applying at PERM instead of asking on a specific talk page, as it would allow more eyes on your next request and they might give you more detailed feedback than I might have.  The Night Watch     (talk)   19:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. At the time of my past decline, I was told to improve the deletion process. I also have enough AfC track record to judge me. I don’t know why my PERM was declined based on “moving quickly.” At least I should be able to have a trial like others. Extraordinary also said that “It’s on me whenever I can make the PERM request,” and you and he are just recommending that I wait. However, they just declined the PERM, saying you both are recommending to wait without seeing or judging my work. When asked, they just ignored me. Grab Up  -  Talk  00:09, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Grabup Hi there. You are definitely doing a great job; you are interestingly a proficient editor. I can say that I have been seeing you around lately at AfDs and your rationales usually make sense. I get the frustration of your requests for permission being declined, I have been there and trust me. But let's not blame the admins for not granting rights, you know, there've been a trend of users who misuse these tools and their rights getting revoked. This is what they're trying to avoid, they (and as a matter of fact, Wikipedia) wants new page patrollers who are well-grounded to the core in our core content policies, and in achieving that, they have to put in more scrutiny while reviewing requests for permission. This is something very understandable and expected given the issue about abuse I mentioned earlier. I mean, look at me, I am literally at my third trial at NPP, even though by the end of my second (which was a two-month thing) trial I was already doing great at NPP. I am currently on a 4-month trial which started since May 2024. I didn't mind or complained because to an extent I understood why and wasn't bothered because, after all, it is a chance to show what I am capable of.
 * It is only quite unfortunate that the requests became disruptive that you had to be blocked from the PERM pages. Please calm down, you are doing great, I envy and respect your contributions and I don't want you to get tired of contributing on here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:31, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Question
Hi. I noticed this edit. Feel free to update it or to say that you no longer think it reflects who you are as an editor today... but I'd prefer it if you didn't remove it entirely. If that's alright with you? Clovermoss 🍀 (talk) 04:47, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * That's alright.  The Night Watch     (talk)   04:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Reigns (video game)
The article Reigns (video game) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Reigns (video game) and Talk:Reigns (video game)/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Aoba47 -- Aoba47 (talk) 19:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Curious about your changes to Darío Benedetto
Hello, I was curious as to why the page I referenced above receives suppression for vandalism. Checking the deletion log, this seems to have been happening a lot recently. Why did you make the choice to suppress those edits (out of curiosity). I also apologize for my incorrect revert, which caused more work for you. Thanks, OnlyNano 17:57, 14 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @OnlyNano I revision deleted the vandalism because it was purely disruptive material by a clear LTA. Not much to look at there, some other admins did the same with that form of vandalism. And no worries about that revert, I make a lone mistake every now and then while patrolling too :)  The Night Watch     (talk)   18:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your understanding! I noticed the page change the second I reverted it, and I went through a wormhole of confusion and worry haha. Thanks for explaining more about your decision, I never knew that some forms of vandalism yielded that! Have a good one :) OnlyNano 18:11, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Countystat (10:40, 15 June 2024)
Hello. I was trying to add a page I got a message to say it was accepted but then redirected What does this mean and how does it work I was trying to have it as its ’own Page’ I tried to add information, links/reference and a photo. Other contributors very kindly edited/helped But I can not seem to find the page now. Thank you in advance for taking time to read --Countystat (talk) 10:40, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from HayaDayaSofiya (21:31, 15 June 2024)
i many times edit wikipedia just to add hyperlinks to articles (i like the blue text), is there some way to judge if a particular noun or phrase should be hyperliniked with its corresponding article? --HayaDayaSofiya (talk) 21:31, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Rights removal request
Please remove my pending changes reviewer from this account; my main account doesn't have it and I have no need. Diverging Diamond (is Queen of Hearts's alt; talk) 02:12, 16 June 2024 (UTC)


 * confirm. Queen of Hearts (🏳️‍⚧️ • 🏳️‍🌈) 02:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅  The Night Watch     (talk)   02:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Countystat (10:15, 16 June 2024)
Hi - I had a new draft article and it seems to has disappeared and been redirected.

Please can you help?

Re below is what it shows - where/how can I assess the Draft:Dave Conlon (football coach) - I was trying to have this as a page. Thank you in advance

Stockport County F.C.[edit]

Article Talk Read Edit View history Watch From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(Redirected from Draft:Dave Conlon (football coach)) --Countystat (talk) 10:15, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Countystat (11:43, 16 June 2024)
Good afternoon, I am trying to publish my first page. Can you advise if this is ok, do I need to add anything, edit it, and what are the next stages. Thanks in advance, i new to this and looking forward to contributing to the community. --Countystat (talk) 11:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Countystat (15:51, 16 June 2024)
Hi apologies for another message.

I've edited the page and pressed 'publish' what do I need to do know or do I just wait.

Thanks --Countystat (talk) 15:51, 16 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Countystat The edit appears immediately after you press publish, no need to wait!  The Night Watch     (talk)   18:48, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

discussion thread venue
Regarding this comment: it sounds like you want to discuss the subject in general? If so, then I suggest it would be better to have the discussion elsewhere than in someone's request for administrative privileges. isaacl (talk) 05:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Alright then. Yes, that would probably be better for elsewhere.  The Night Watch     (talk)   15:00, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Joeycrail5 (16:24, 17 June 2024)
Hello Mentor! I am new and am completing George Duffields Jr. Wikipedia Page as a group class project. Do you have any advice for me or my group? --Joeycrail5 (talk) 16:24, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @Joeycrail5 and welcome to Wikipedia! Since you're new, you could try reading the welcome message on your talk page for a small introduction to Wikipedia. Just remember, when editing pages on Wikipedia, remember to use citations from sources with good editorial standards, such as reputable newspapers or academic papers. If you or your group has any questions about editing, you can ask me and I'll try to get you an answer.  The Night Watch     (talk)   16:51, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Tired
A wikifriend told me privately that they thought I was suffering from burnout. They felt like I wasn't acting the same. So I'm seeing another wikibreak coming on after all my content I planned for is published and done. I think it's for the best, since I'm incredibly tired. Anyway, I'm still here, and I'm still trying to listen. So you can talk on or off wiki if you want. Happy editing, and please try to be nice to one another. The Night Watch    (talk)   14:04, 18 June 2024 (UTC)


 * saw the desysop request at BN. Enjoy your break. Queen of Hearts &thinsp;talk 16:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * i'll be real, i also thought you seemed like you were burned out. hope you feel better :) ... sawyer  * he/they *  talk  17:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Take your time. I placed Shovel Knight Showdown in the pending list for 10 December, hope that is what you'd like. I'll take care of it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Know that I'm here if you ever need to talk. Take care of yourself, okay? Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 20:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you all. Don't be afraid to come and talk. It seems like a lot of Wikipedians are going through a storm lately, so if you see someone feeling down, try and reach out.  The Night Watch     (talk)   18:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for improving article quality in June! - Today we have a centenarian story (documentation about it by Percy Adlon) and an article that had two sentences yesterday and was up for deletion, and needs a few more citations. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Whew. All done. Time to rest and focus on doing and feeling better.  The Night Watch     (talk)   23:58, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Reigns (video game)
The article Reigns (video game) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Reigns (video game) for comments about the article, and Talk:Reigns (video game)/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Aoba47 -- Aoba47 (talk) 02:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 July newsletter
The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.

The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:


 * with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 featured article on DeLancey W. Gill, 11 good articles, 18 did you know nominations, and dozens of reviews;
 * with 673 points, mostly from 2 featured articles on Worlds (Porter Robinson album) and I'm God, 5 good articles, and 2 did you know nominations;
 * with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on KNXV-TV, 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and
 * with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Great cuckoo-dove, with a high number of bonus points from that article.

The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (,, and ) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:30, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Mysticrain19 (06:26, 12 July 2024)
Hello! I was wondering if I can take a screen of apple maps satellite view of a park and label things such as beach, camping loops, boat launch and then upload it to the parks wikipedia page? Are these considered copyrighted or are they free use to upload? --Mysticrain19 (talk) 06:26, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @Mysticrain19 I'm not quite sure about using apple maps satellite views for images in articles, but it seems like according to the terms of use for Apple Maps, that the service is copyrighted and wouldn't be free content to upload images of. I think you might be able to get a better answer at The Teahouse as I'm not a very good person to give information on copyright statuses of maps.   The Night Watch     (talk)   15:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Further Statement
Whew, this is going to be a big statement. Some of you may have been watching my behavior over the last few months, that I've not been as active and calm as I usually am. There are a lot of emotions running through my head, and after a long while of dealing with mental health problems, I've concluded that I'm not the best fit to be an admin at this point in time. I wouldn't say never, but I think there are a lot of things holding me back, chief among them, uh, me.

There are numerous problems that I hope to someday resolve, mostly surrounding my temperament, discussion-perspective, and maturity issues. I don't have very good skills at de-escalating disputes and being a conflict-averse person, it's hard to learn those skills at a young age. And I'd rather resolve them beforehand than end up doing a shoddy job.

The event that inspired this was a controversy surrounding tone policing that I poorly handled some months back, and after some long-term deliberation, I feel like I need time to learn so I'd say this is a NOTQUITEYET situation for me. I'm going to take the step of not resysopping and maybe running for a reconfirmation in 2-5 years. But hey, this might be a relief to a lot of you, and it is for me. And I feel like I'm better off several months later now that I have lots of wikifriends who I enjoy talking with via email and Discord. This also gives me a lot of time to focus on collaborating on content with others, expanding my work to new areas, and focusing on improving my interpersonal skills. Thanks for your support and insight,  The Night Watch     (talk)   23:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I just want to say that I think you're better at these things than you give yourself credit for. I know you know I think that, but I'm willing to say it publicly. Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 16:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Clover, I know my flaws. I'm incredibly skittish and passionate in high-pressure situations, and I'm not as calm and collegial as I wish I could be. People change, but I feel like this is not my time. Maybe in a few years, but I know what it feels like to be judged and rejected by a close community and deal with the emotional aftermath. So this is a NOTQUITEYET, and maybe some people would change their minds eventually, though I don't know. But hey, the world is your oyster. Don't let silly me drag you down. You can lean into any role you want, and you should care about the community as a whole, not about what happens to a few conflicted people. I'm still around, and I'll still give to the project in some little ways.  The Night Watch     (talk)   16:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think you're silly. I genuinely mean this. I see a lot of myself in you which is probably why I care so much. I often feel like I have the same flaws. As I said before, try to give yourself the grace you give others. That said, Wikipedia is not an obligation and you're free to participate in whichever way you think is best. I'm not going to try and force you to do something you don't want and I know you've thought a lot about this lately. Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 16:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * We have a few things different. You're incredibly extroverted while I'm the exact opposite, incredibly shy. That's part of why my interactions with others are difficult and emotional sometimes. My dad was like that at one point actually. You've had more experience standing your ground while I prefer to stay out of most community discussions. Overall, learning how to work and communicate appropriately with others is a gradual process and one that I'm not quite suited for at the moment. That's how you can think about yourself: adminship is not just about skill, but learning how to work well with people of all backgrounds. You're skilled at that y'know, but not everyone has the same proficiencies. They take time to learn.  The Night Watch     (talk)   19:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It's true I'm not shy. But standing my ground is not easy for me. I used to have immense inner turmoil whenever I'd disagree with anyone on anything and I still have to fight those feelings of inner worthlessness quite often. It's true that things take time to learn but I do genuinely think you're better at it than you give yourself credit for. Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 19:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'm making my own little commitment to do better, and maybe someone will notice that 2-5 years down the line, but that's fine if not. Not everyone has to like me, and I have gotten involved in my own share of self-inflicted drama. Time doesn't heal all wounds. But you have the community at your back, and my support. I meant what I said here. You're incredibly kind, caring, and empathetic, and I wish I was a little more like that. Wikipedia can be a heavy place sometimes, and you might lose a lot of friends. That hurts, I know firsthand how some Wikipedia-nastiness can affect a close friend in real life. But hey, I'm here for you and the project. I just need a little time.  The Night Watch     (talk)   01:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC) (Was that too theatrical...? Maybe too much!   The Night Watch     (talk)   01:54, 16 July 2024 (UTC))
 * I understand that you need time. As I said, I wouldn't ever want to force someone to do something they don't want to do. I just wish you would stop tormenting yourself in the meantime because I know what that feels like and it sucks. We can be our own harshest critics sometimes. I often feel like I don't live up to other people's expectations. Just know that I'm here for you and that sometimes the loudest voices drown out the compassionate ones but that doesn't mean they don't exist. You belong here and you can choose what you want your future to look like. Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 01:54, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

If it makes you feel better, I declined an offer for adminship in late 2021 for the same reasons. I knew I'd freak out the moment I got taken to WP:ANI for the first time.
 * I would love to discuss our struggles with you on Discord a bit more, if you'd like. Scorpions1325 (talk) 13:54, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

July thanks
Thank you for improving article quality in July! - Today's story is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11, yesterday's was a great mezzo, and on Thursday we watched a sublime ballerina. If that's not enough my talk offers chamber music from two amazing concerts. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:04, 20 July 2024 (UTC)