User talk:ThylacineHunter

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Todo list & requests

 * To recheck diagram maps:
 * update to new standard: Belgrave railway line, Lilydale railway line - Ready to do now Union open
 * add Jolimont workshops to track maps: Pakenham, Cranbourne, Frankston, Sandringham, Glen Waverley, Alamein, Belgrave, Lilydale
 * add 1 former siding to track infobox: Frankston, Sandringham, Glen Waverley, Alamein, Belgrave, Lilydale

Completed

 * Finished good articles:


 * Pakenham line
 * Cranbourne line
 * Frankston railway line
 * Lilydale railway line
 * Belgrave railway line
 * Mernda line
 * Stony Point railway line
 * Alamein line
 * Upfield railway line (+ the Somerton link)


 * Awaiting good article assessment:


 * ❌ Sandringham railway line
 * ❌ Glen Waverley railway line
 * ❌ Hurstbridge railway line
 * Craigieburn line
 * Sunbury railway line
 * Werribee line
 * Williamstown railway line
 * ❌ Flemington Racecourse railway line
 * Warrnambool V/Line rail service

My bits (service & track maps, service & track infoboxes, stopping patterns, and station history) all done
 * Awaiting rest of page cleanup:


 * Red Hill railway line
 * Spring Vale Cemetery railway line
 * St Kilda – Windsor railway line
 * Rosstown Railway
 * Outer Circle railway line
 * Kew railway line
 * Whittlesea railway line
 * Inner Circle railway line
 * Healesville railway line
 * Yarra Valley Railway
 * Warburton railway line
 * Port Fairy railway line (via Werribee)

These articles may not need a page cleanup but placing diagrams adding some content has still been completed
 * Other completed tasks:
 * ✅ PTV Ferries - 3 route maps
 * ✅ Updated Template:BS-AUSgauge to remove need to show all three (broad, standard, & narrow gauges) when only 1 or 2 of them are needed. Then update it's usage on other pages
 * ✅ Updated and added source for distances on List of railway stations in Melbourne
 * ✅ Updated Protected areas of Victoria using available CAPAD2022 data - some references were up to 15 years old
 * ✅ Updates to WikiProject Victoria - in particular to Assessments by creating pages to monitor and discuss article improvements by sub categories (eg modes of transport, geography, etc)
 * ✅ old North East railway line Split into North East railway line (Albury) & North East standard gauge railway line

Current

 * If any editor needs me to update any route maps (service / track), infobox (service / track) stopping patterns, station history date table, etc., or anything else please request them here:


 * 1)  North East railway line (Albury line via Essendon) - ✅ track map, ✅ infobox, ✅ station history
 * 2)  North East standard gauge railway line (post 1962) -  track map,  infobox, ✅ station history
 * 3) * Albion–Jacana railway line - ✅ track map, track infobox,  station history
 * 4) * South Kensington–West Footscray railway line - track map,  track infobox,  station history
 * 5)  Albury V/Line rail service -  service map,  service infobox (need journey time),  stopping patterns, ✅ station history
 * 6)  Geelong V/Line rail service - ✅ service map, ✅ track map,  service infobox,  stopping patterns, ✅ station history
 * 7)  Deer Park–West Werribee railway line - ✅ track map,  infobox, ✅ station history
 * 8)  Update to new proposed standard: Belgrave & Lilydale route diagrams - Ready to do now Union open
 * 9)  Ballarat V/Line rail service - service map, track map, service infobox, stopping patterns, station history
 * 10)  Ararat V/Line rail service - service map, track map, service infobox, stopping patterns, station history
 * 11)  Serviceton railway line - track map, infobox, station history
 * 12)  Maryborough V/Line rail service - service map, track map, service infobox, stopping patterns, station history
 * 13)  Yelta railway line - track map, infobox, station history
 * 14)  Former Mildura service (Vinelander) - service map, track map, service infobox, stopping patterns?, station history
 * 15)  Bendigo V/Line rail service - service map, track map, service infobox, stopping patterns, station history
 * 16)  Echuca V/Line rail service - service map, track map, service infobox, stopping patterns, station history
 * 17)  Deniliquin railway line - track map, infobox, station history
 * 18)  Swan Hill V/Line rail service - service map, track map, service infobox, stopping patterns, station history
 * 19)  Piangil railway line - track map, infobox, station history
 * 20)  Melbourne Airport rail link - ✅ track map, infobox


 * 1)  Update the Australian  naming convention - Wait for Draft:Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian Transport
 * 2)  Add sidings Flemington Racecourse route diagrams and station histories section - Needs a bit of investigating
 * 3)  BSicon map of the Murray River - Continue when no other projects at to be done (Long term project)
 * 4)  List of locomotive classes by state -  Aus National (no particular state),  NSW,  Qld,  SA,  Tas, ✅Vic,  WA - Continue when no other projects at to be done (Long term project)
 * 5)  Tidy LGA bits (sorting into LGA) -  Mountains, ✅ Parks,  Waterways,  Towns,  Transport,  VHR - Continue when no other projects at to be done (Long term project)
 * 6)  Alstom Australia - I DON'T HAVE **** TIME!

On hold
Currently these are sidings that don't have enough information to be classified as railway line articles, but as sidings off the other train lines...
 * Stations / Sidings:
 * APM Siding - siding track diagram,  infobox
 * Broadstore Siding - siding track diagram,  infobox
 * Mont Park railway line - possibly change to match the other 2 - siding track diagram,  infobox


 * Others to do:
 * St Kilda railway line - Possible split from tram line. If split from tram line, then possible merger with St Kilda – Windsor line
 * Port Melbourne railway line - Possible split from tram line
 * Mornington railway line - Is a separate page needed or is it covered by Mornington Railway?
 * Mornington Railway - track map, service infobox, track infobox, station history
 * Gembrook railway line (non-tourist line) - Is a separate page needed or is it covered by Puffing Billy Railway?
 * Puffing Billy Railway - track map, service infobox, track infobox, station history
 * Powelltown Tramway - track map, infobox, station history
 * Britannia Creek Tramway - track map, infobox, station history
 * Warburton Tramway - track map, infobox, station history
 * Wait until doing standard gauge (due to overlap)
 * Newport–Sunshine railway line - track map, track infobox, station history
 * Webb Dock railway line - and the other docks? (Swanson, Appleton, Victoria)
 * Maribyrnong railway line - Waiting on page creation
 * City Loop (need to include above ground section) - page restructure in talks - track map, track infobox, ✅stopping patterns (summary table), station history
 * Bellarine Railway - track map, service infobox, track infobox, station history
 * Daylesford Spa Country Railway - track map, service infobox, track infobox, station history
 * Victorian Goldfields Railway - track map, service infobox, track infobox, station history
 * Walhalla Goldfields Railway - track map, service infobox, track infobox, station history
 * Red Cliffs Historic Steam Railway - track map, service infobox, track infobox, station history


 * Western Standard Gauge sections
 * North Eastern Standard Gauge sections

Comments
For older comments see Archive 2 (section).

@HoHo3143, What order are you are planning to do the V/Line services in? I'll work out the various necessary lines that are involved and the order to best order to do them (eg: Serviceton Line will be better to save until doing Ararat Service) and what line each service is actually on (eg: Bendigo Service is Deniliquin Line). --ThylacineHunter  (talk) 11:40, 12 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm planning on doing the order listed in this table here. It's basically a reverse of the order which I did the metro services. Also question- did I get it right about the lines that the service uses? HoHo3143 (talk) 11:51, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I wanted to just double check the order. As for the lines used, I'm 99% sure what I originally listed is correct, but I'll double check as I get to each one (who knows, there may be a surprise I didn't know about)
 * I'll get to this asap, as I'm currently involved with redoing Protected areas of Victoria (may do both simultaneously). -- ThylacineHunter  (talk) 12:13, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter thank you. Are you able to do the stopping patterns so I know wether or not Warrnambool services stop at certain stations? This would allow me to finish the stations bit and move on to other areas like accessibility and rolling stock whilst I wait for you to finish your other project. HoHo3143 (talk) 12:34, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The Geelong and Warrnambool use the Serviceton (Deer Park to at least Sunshine) and possibly Deniliquin (Sunshine to Southern Cross). -- ThylacineHunter  (talk) 12:49, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @HoHo3143, Warrnambool stopping pattern & service infobox are done. Take special note with VLine services of the "Predecessor" list, most services had 'special names' (particularly in the 1980's). -- ThylacineHunter  (talk) 00:31, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing this. I'll continue working now. HoHo3143 (talk) 03:20, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter does V/Line operate any maintenance trains like Metro does? I can't seem to find any information about if they do. HoHo3143 (talk) 06:51, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Joint V/Line and Southern Shorthaul Railroad (SSR). -- ThylacineHunter  (talk) 11:08, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The route maps for Geelong service physical track and Deer Park–West Werribee line are done and uploaded.
 * I'm waiting on some icons for the Port Fairy line (dual and standard gauge bits).
 * Port Fairy line & Warrnambool service physical track are done up to Waurn Ponds - rest still needs checking for former stations.
 * -- ThylacineHunter  (talk) 10:53, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I'm continuing to work through Warrnambool. HoHo3143 (talk) 11:24, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @HoHo3143, I fixed a mistake with Warrnambool stopping patterns. -- ThylacineHunter  (talk) 12:58, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter I have almost finished the Warrnambool article- I just need to add some images. Can you please have a look over the article to check for spelling, grammar, and accuracy of information? As most of this information will be copied to other pages (eg the accessibility or rolling stock) I want to make sure that it correct and error free. Also sorry this has taken a while- I've been busy with school recently. Let me know once you've reviewed it and ill add images and submit. HoHo3143 (talk) 11:30, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter also should I discuss the LXRs at deer park? I'm guessing I should. HoHo3143 (talk) 10:54, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @HoHo3143 yes. I'll have a look at the page tomorrow. -- ThylacineHunter  (talk) 11:50, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter apologies for the lack of action over the past few weeks. For the next week I have my school exams so I won't be working on the current projects. I'll let you know once they've finished so I can continue on. HoHo3143 (talk) 04:38, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter I've finsihed fixing the Warrnambool service page- is everything fixed? If so I'll move onto the Albury service. HoHo3143 (talk) 12:15, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter ok so I've set up the Albury service page to be rebuilt. Once you say that the Warrnambool service is finished, I'll nominate it and start working on the next one. HoHo3143 (talk) 12:27, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Could do with a mention in the history section about the named services The Flyer (extended to Warrnambool between 1927–c.1967) & The Westcoaster (1987–c.2004). -- ThylacineHunter  (talk) 12:30, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @HoHo3143, Other than that all looks good. -- ThylacineHunter  (talk) 12:32, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter ive added both mentions- im guessing this is finished now? HoHo3143 (talk) 12:38, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter I've gone and nominated it and will move on shortly. HoHo3143 (talk) 12:46, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @HoHo3143 I've tweaked it a little, and I'm happy for it to be nominated. -- ThylacineHunter  (talk) 12:55, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter thanks for making the North East standard gauge railway line article. I am going to make a quick layout guide for track pages so they are uniform with one another. I'll let you know soon once I've finished it. HoHo3143 (talk) 08:00, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter just to give u the heads up I won't be able to work on wikipedia for the next few days as I will be travelling back to Australia from Europe (so a lot of travelling with no internet connection). I'll make sure to work on them once ive returned home. HoHo3143 (talk) 07:53, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

@HoHo3143, I've reworked Template:Table Age Calculator ("TAC2" for short) to handle "incumbent" as a 4th (end date) variable to allow its use for the operators table. This will auto calculate the value for the Age/Length of operations column and also has the ability of making the table sortable. I originally had just thought it would be helpful on the station history tables, but with the update for "incumbent", it's now more versatile and can be included on the operators table. I'll go back at some point and incorporate this into the already finished pages. I also included full dates on the operators table as North East railway line was a little confusing with just years. --ThylacineHunter  (talk) 12:58, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @ThylacineHunter thanks for doing this and apologies for the late reply. Question- what type of signalling is used on the Albury Line? Also, you'll need to start your elements of the article when you can as I'm making decent progress. HoHo3143 (talk) 11:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter and are there any future construction projecrts for the line? I don't think so but just wanted to check. HoHo3143 (talk) 11:28, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @HoHo3143, I have a few missing bit of info, I'm waiting on a copy of "Six And A Half Inches From Destiny" (I thought it would arrive by last week but it didn't, hopefully early next week), to check these.
 * Signaling: I believe it falls under ARTC network which use "Centralised Traffic Control (CTC)"
 * Future: None that I'm aware of.
 * <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">ThylacineHunter  (talk) 13:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter hopefully that book has arrived so you can finish your aspects of the Albury line. I'd like you to get this done sometime soon so once I've finished acting on GA feedback for the 4 articles that are open I can go back to working on the article. HoHo3143 (talk) 12:20, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping to find the time over the coming week to continue with this. Unfortunately when the book arrived, I wasn't able to focus too much time on here due to one of my parents going into hospital for a mild heart issue and then further complications while in hospital (out now, but still some slight issues that I need to spend time with them). -- <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">ThylacineHunter  (talk) 03:00, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter completely understandable. Take as much time as you see fit- what's happened is much more important. Best wishes to your mum/dad. HoHo3143 (talk) 03:23, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The majority of the 3 articles are done.
 * North East railway line is ready for the rebuild (Albury's track).
 * Albury V/Line rail service is just waiting on stopping patterns, service map, and journey time (all require me to sit down with the timetable).
 * North East standard gauge railway line is waiting on the track map (just need to finish the city side of the Maribyrnong River and check distances) and a few little bit on it's infobox.
 * -- <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">ThylacineHunter  (talk) 03:26, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter thank you for this. This page here is my list of what I want to tackle overtime. Track rebuilds will take place after everything here is complete. HoHo3143 (talk) 03:34, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If you need a working version of the NESG line map: User:ThylacineHunter/Lines/NESG railway line. Distances are the main issue as I've had to calculate new ones using distances between locations. -- <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">ThylacineHunter  (talk) 08:07, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter thanks for this! HoHo3143 (talk) 08:28, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @HoHo3143, we appear to keep running into issues regarding a WP:RS in relation to signalling in Victoria. I recommend reaching out to WP:AUTS, to see if they know of any. -- <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">ThylacineHunter  (talk) 01:30, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter I'll have to get to that later. I have more urgent things to do right now. HoHo3143 (talk) 01:57, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @ThylacineHunter. As the month of august has now finished, the number of GA reviews that I will be acting on will dry up. Currently I have one left to finish acting upon. So looking forward from here. Could you please finish all of your elements for the Albury V/Line rail service article as soon as possible. Once ive finished acting on the GA feedback, I'd like to finish working on this article and nominate it. Once this has been completed, I will be going back and fixing a few issues with a few GA nominations that have been failed and ones that I have purposefully taken down. Once I have finished fixing these articles, I will continue the project of rebuilding the V/Line service articles.
 * If you are still unable to complete this, let me know and I'll adjust what I will do. If you can't that's ok, but I'd like to finish up the Albury line, then fix the other articles, before moving back through the other V/Line articles that need rebuilding. Let me know what you think. HoHo3143 (talk) 07:23, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey @HoHo3143,
 * Unfortunately my health and then my parents health got in the way with me having the time to edit Wikipedia. Things have settled down enough that I'm hoping to be able put aside regular time for Wikipedia. -- <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">ThylacineHunter  (talk) 04:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi @ThylacineHunter. I'm glad you are able to come back now. I hope that everything with both your health and your parents has been ok. Currently, I am completing Year 12 so have had very little time for anything, especially Wikipedia. I have continued to make minor edits to the LXRP page, including marking completed removals and other updates to the project. This has however been the extent of my edits. For the remainder of the year, I will only be making very small contributions to wikipedia due to time constraints, so anything that we used to work on I won't be able to be apart of. I am still available to answer messages and contribute my opinion if needed so feel free to reach out. HoHo3143 (talk) 08:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @HoHo3143 I'm happy to put this stuff on hold until we both have more time to focus on it. -- <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">ThylacineHunter  (talk) 08:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Fair enough... it will be 5-6 months though before I have any time (at a minimum). Whilst you wait I look forward to seeing what you'll work on (and go ahead with this rail stuff... you don't have to wait) HoHo3143 (talk) 12:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Moving articles
If you want to rename an article, you need to follow the moving a page process. You can’t just copy and paste text from other to the other as you did at with the Gippsland railway line. I am guessing you may have tried and moved it this way but been blocked by a system control. This may have been because the article was moved in 2019 after a reuested move discussion and may have been locked from further non-administrator moves as part of this. Should you wish to have the article renamed, you will need to gain a consensus to override the 2019 discussion via a new reuested move. Bagufleat (talk) 03:35, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Bagufleat, I tried but there was already a Orbost railway line, I put in a deletion request for that page which was reverted. This was the only way to swap the pages over. -- <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">ThylacineHunter  (talk) 03:38, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Again please read the moving a page process. You cannot just cut and paste. Bagufleat (talk) 03:44, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @ThylacineHunter: In case you're unaware of how it works, you can ask for a technical move at WP:RMT. Someone with the page mover permission will move it on your behalf if they determine that it isn't controversial. Otherwise, go through the usual page move request process, a page mover will still complete the move 7 days after the request was opened if consensus is to move. Fork99 (talk) 05:28, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, the reason why you can't just delete a page like that is because it fragments the edit history of the article. All edits/text on Wikipedia need to be copyright attributable to particular editors. Fork99 (talk) 05:42, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Tagging
Honestly you are most welcome to ignore me, but the leaving transport-importance=low, as whatever it is leaving it off is something that doesnt fit, no big deal... Hey - keep up the good work anyways JarrahTree 12:56, 17 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't feel qualified enough to decide on article importance, other than the retagging of the Aus Transport top-importance. I feel these are justified being top-importance:
 * Department of Transport for each state
 * Articles titled "[transport type] in Australia"
 * Articles titled "Transport for [state/capital]"
 * The overall transport company per state (Public Transport Victoria, Adelaide Metro, Transperth, Transport for NSW)
 * The 2 biggest airports (Sydney, Melbourne)
 * The 3 biggest stations (Central, Flinders Street, Southern Cross) due to amount of services
 * Sydney Harbour Bridge (as a vital article and it's iconic status) - Should we include also include the other vital articles? Indian Pacific, Qantas, Sydney Metro, Trans-Australian Railway
 * <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">ThylacineHunter  (talk) 13:36, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * my apologies for my poorly expressed message and your thorough reply - I tend to do everything default to low importance - and I havent really considered the field of vital articles and their context as transport items... The way you have listed the items - it looks like a reasonable argument for the situating of the items... JarrahTree 14:51, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Naming of the ...line articles
@ThylacineHunter currently 3 of my rebuilt articles (Belgrave, Lilydale, and Frankston) are being reviewed for GA status. They all go by ...railway line whereas other articles have been changed to ...line. As these should be consistent, what should we do? This would be the right time now as they are being reviewed currently so its definitely becoming urgent. HoHo3143 (talk) 04:19, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @HoHo3143 See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian Transport. -- <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">ThylacineHunter  (talk) 04:57, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

out of time
I have seen your slaughter of loco lists - I was very disappointed to see that, but now have neither the time or capacity to have an in public discussion about it... anyway keep up the good work!! My response time now might be weeks or days - please do not ping me or whatever... JarrahTree 04:31, 14 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I was just (as other editors in WP:AUTS have done) removed bits I personally know are not able to be backed up using WP:RS. -- <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">ThylacineHunter  (talk) 04:37, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Victoria Livery color
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Re: Serviceton
Hi, thanks for your concern...the difference between renaming Serviceton -> Ararat, vs all the other non-existent lines in Victoria, is that the Ararat line is still in use, it's the same as the Port Fairy line article getting renamed to Warrnambool since that's where it now ends.

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