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Welcome to the project. Ikip (talk) 05:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Please comment on political straw polls
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Wedcast renominated for deletion
Hi. I have renominated Wedcast for deletion - Articles for deletion/Wedcast (2nd nomination). As you closed the original discussion I thought I should let you know. --Paddles TC 10:25, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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Outline of crime
This was from a link on Portal:Contents/Outlines/Society_and_social_sciences so I have changed the red-ink Crime] to [[Crime, which article did not really seem to cover the philosophy and sociology, but... Regards, Timpo (talk) 08:45, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Re:Boris
Thanks...wow, it's been a couple years since I saw one of those fellows. I don't do as much these days, even of article rescuing - that one just happened to be on my watchlist. Cheers Chubbles (talk) 11:06, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

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Your rejection of "Jonathan Hay (publicist)" article
Hi Tony,

Thank you for reviewing my article submission for "Jonathan Hay (publicist)". Would you please let me know why you rejected the article, and how it might be improved? Maybe you posted notes somewhere, but I don't know where to find them.

Thanks! Bbmusicman (talk) 19:43, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

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Sharon Presley
Great idea, I think an RFC with input from non-involved editors is definitely the way to go, because the situation has clearly become so polarised that regardless of what happens one group is going to be outraged with the outcome. I expect we'll see the article at DRV before the day is out, and while I think that such things are borderline disruptive, I'm confident that the close will not be overturned. Then, once the spectre of deletion is removed, hopefully come constructive discussion can take place. Lankiveil (speak to me) 02:53, 30 December 2013 (UTC).
 * Thanks. Your explanation of the close was spot on, by the way. Of the actively involved AfD editors, I consider myself to be the least involved content wise, because libertarianism is not something I get very involved with.  I tried to mediate some of the issues with sources myself, but that didn't work, so I thought RFC the best way to go, since even though I am "uninvolved" with the actual editing of the article, I had enough involvement with the AfD that it could be contentious.  TonyBallioni (talk) 02:59, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

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 * Thanks! Just doing my bit to help! TonyBallioni (talk) 23:55, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

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Head of the church discussion
Thanks, btw, for your contributions to the discussion. I share your sense of proportion in considering the views of the large branches of Christendom generally, and welcome your comments about it here. It's in that general spirit that I have made proposals there. I'm heartened that this last one may be getting closer to something that will be found acceptable.

I think that "Catholic Church" (with two capital letters) conjures up for most people the branch that has the Pope at the top (in the earthly sense). Wikipedia reflects that. The article Latin Church identifies the largest "particular church" of Catholicism; Eastern Catholic Churches identifies the other particular churches; both articles identify their union with each other and the Pope in the Catholic Church. Being as aware as you are of the Eastern Catholics, the word "Roman" probably doesn't strike you the same way as it does most people, me included. You're thinking of "Latin Church", while most of us think "Catholic Church". Wikipedia reflects the commoner perception also: Roman Catholic Church redirects to Catholic Church, even though "Latin Church" might be the more logical or precise meaning.

I think it might be helpful if the Catholic Church article spelled out more explicitly that it is composed of all the particular churches, Latin and Eastern, (though that's a different topic). You might be just the person to initiate an edit of that kind.

Back to the Pope Linus article. You'll note that the Roman Catholic Church text links to the article, which then redirects to "Catholic Church", so it's clear what the WP interpretation of the displayed text is. It looks innocent enough to remove "Roman" from that text, or to change to a direct link to "Catholic Church", but there could also be some sensitive matter there I don't know about. The lead sentence (where that text is) was the subject of a discussion and consensus last spring in Project Catholicism. And now part of it is under discussion again. So while I'd normally recommend WP:BRD, here I'd suggest trying to confirm the idea before editing the article; open a discussion or poll a contact or two first.

Hope this helps. Evensteven (talk) 05:44, 26 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, well. Now I see your reply at the noticeboard: cross-edits. No matter; cheers anyway! Evensteven (talk) 05:50, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. A quick reply here that might prevent the noticeboard discussion from getting too noisy:  I agree that Roman Catholic generally speaking conjures up images of the entire Catholic Church (I think Vatican I may have included it in its documents, but I am unsure and at this time of day am too lazy to look it up.) At the same time, I don't really see why just using "Catholic Church" would be bad, since as you pointed out, Roman Catholic redirects to it, and most people would assume it anyway.  Since it is more precise and I am unaware of any controversy that it might cause, I think not using the word "Roman" would be best in anything that is decided, so as to include the consensus of Eastern Catholics to those who are aware of the distinction. Thanks again for your work on this :) TonyBallioni (talk) 05:57, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

move to close at NPOVN
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Pollution-Related Diseases page
Hi Tony. I do apologize if I am using this page incorrectly. I am new to wiki. I responded your redirection of the "Pollution-Related Diseases" page I created, but wasn't sure if you receive my note. So I am trying to reach you here instead. Here's the message: The Environmental diseases page include things like insect borne diseases, which are not always included in the scope of Pollution-Related Diseases. That is why I think we should have both stand alone pages that can link to each other. What do you think? Can you tell me how to get that PRD page back up so I can link it to the Environmental diseases page? That way people can find both. I can add definitions to clarity too. (Greenies100 (talk) 13:50, 16 August 2016 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenies100 (talk • contribs)  (Greenies100 (talk) 18:31, 18 August 2016 (UTC))
 * Sure thing. I reverted my own edit to the page.  I think your reasoning makes sense.  The article as it stands now could use a bit of work to make it match the standard formatting here on Wikipedia. I am not as good at that myself, but you can find some guidance at WP:MOS.  Best! TonyBallioni (talk) 22:23, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Don't do this
Please don't get me banned. I didn't mean to do that; I was angry. But I'll behave! Just please withdraw that SPI... Parsley Man (talk) 06:48, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

I thought I told you
I believe I told you to never talk to me again. Parsley Man (talk) 03:02, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I was trying to wrap up the business related to those two articles when I was going through my watchlist, and didn't want to have to take it to WP:ANRFC. I thought the best way to handle it would be to ask if you would be fine closing it since you started the conversation. My intent was only to wrap up a discussion that had stalled, and not to further agitate. I'm sorry if it was perceived that way. I would really like to come to some conclusion on the merger and I thought approaching you directly would be a better first step than posting it at the noticeboard.  Again, sorry for any perception of re-escalating an old dispute.  The intent was actually the opposite.  TonyBallioni (talk) 19:44, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't care. You made a bad impression on me so take it to WP:ANRFC. If anyone contests it, tell them I, the discussion opener, specifically called for it. PLEASE DO NOT TALK TO ME EVER AGAIN. Parsley Man (talk) 23:21, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

SPI
Yeah I just saw it. He's a sockmaster using at least one known sock. Already made the SPI. - LouisAragon (talk) 00:49, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Yup. Saw your ANI post.  I do my best to not get involved in nationalist disputes on wiki.  Only commented on the AfD because the merge/redirect made a lot of sense, and there is no factual dispute that Kurdistan is not a nationstate, so accusing you of fascism on that point is a clear violation of WP:AGF. Probably not going to get involved beyond what I already have, but thanks for the update! TonyBallioni (talk) 00:54, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

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12:04:20, 29 September 2016 review of submission by Ernani99
Hi, Thanks for review and remarks. I have tried to limit superlatives and stick to the facts with sources. It is first submission and I followed some existing wiki pages of colleagues. In reference #8 ere is a fault that for the life of me I couldn't figure out - kindly advise if you can.

Thanks
 * thanks for the message! The article looks a lot better.  I still think it could be cleaned up a bit re: tone.  The section on major works reads a lot like some academic short bios used for conferences (words like "challenges" and "reexamines" might be better written as "She focuses on..." or something similar. This could also just be my having read too many conference/CV bios, so take it for what it is worth.  I'll let someone else re-review the updated submission.  Like I said, I definitely think she merits an article, just trying to find the right tone now! TonyBallioni (talk) 13:33, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

This is me trying to answer your last message - hoping this is the way to do it; While I read you loud and clear, and know not much about writing Wikipedia, I tend to disagree with your last remark. I know Prof. Herzog's work and MANY other works in the field. The uniqueness is in the "challenge" and if you will read the reviews on her books (more than 50 of them around in 5 languages only on the 3 major works - a unique phenomenon in itself), most concentrate on the challenge to previous concepts and methodology. removing this from the text will totally miss the point. Let me know if this makes it to you or that's the wrong way to communicate - sorry, I am a "first-timer". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ernani99 (talk • contribs) 02:47, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * thats fine! I guess my other issue is that it tends to read like the back of a book cover which to me sounds like an advertisement.  I'll let another reviewer look at the second submission so you can get a new opinion on it. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:03, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Thx
Thank you for editing Cmchugh001 (talk) 23:59, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Editing Protopia
Hi Tony. Thank you for editing Protopia with me. There are still multiple issues with this article so I really like to invite you to fix those issues with me, if you don't mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OscarSong (talk • contribs) 08:08, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note, my concerns are around whether or not the article has enough in-depth coverage in third-party reliable sources to establish notability on Wikipedia or whether it is a neologism that wouldn't ordinarly be included. I did some searching last night and all I could find were blog articles. If I find any more reliable sources, I will be sure to include them. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:19, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Bunny
Hey, Tony, thanks for your input about the Bunny article. If you have a chance, I tried to implement your recommendations. The fact is that no major publications/websites have reviewed the album. Better to delete the Reception section or to use valid reviews that are just not from major players? Also, for disambiguation purposes, the article really should be titled Bunny (Album). Can you tell me how to rename the article? Thanks again so much!VReese (talk) 17:02, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Frampton Scale
Not a big deal, but I think this is indeed an attack page, one aimed at Joe Frampton. I would certainly consider it an attack to have my name associated with a bogus measurement scale of tackiness. Meters (talk) 21:29, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I read it as some guy making up a tackiness scale and naming it after himself rather than someone saying he designed tacky buildings. On the off chance that they could actually produce reliable sources I changed it to A11 because I think the blanking might discourage me if I was a new editor. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:34, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It could be. I hadn't looked at ti that way. It's not going to be around long either way. Meters (talk) 21:37, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Thanks for leaving me a note! TonyBallioni (talk) 21:39, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

FELIXprinters page
Dear Toni,

First of all thank you for your feedback. My intention was to write a company story and not a promotional article - but if it seems that way there is definitely room for improvement. I am a bit confused though, as a reference I used the Wiki page of our competitor and their page is pretty much written in the same style. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimaker

I am not looking for a promotional opportunity because there are many other ways to promote our products, what I want to do is to keep a wiki page up to date with recent releases and a 'timeline' from the beginning till now. I hope you see I am not trying to misuse Wikipedia and I will rewrite the article to make it more 'fact' based and more neutral than it is now. If you have any suggestions, please let me know

Kind regards,

Christiaan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Felixprinters (talk • contribs) 14:53, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Christiaan, while I understand your intent, the article was written in a way that seems promotional and where there was an apparent conflict of interest. Ideally an article should have independent third-party reliable sources and be created by someone who is not associated with the company. I didn't see sources that indicated notability in the article, and given the conflict of interest, I nominated it for deletion as an advertisement. deleted the article a few minutes ago before I saw this, and they would be the first person to contact if you feel the article should be undeleted. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:48, 11 October 2016 (UTC)


 * That article was a perfect example of why we strongly discourage users from writing about subjects they are connected to. It is often hard to write in a neutral tone about such subjects. That article went so far as to criticize a competing product. If the company is really that notable, some uninvolved, neutral editor will get to it eventually. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:52, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Battle for Mlg Island article Requested Deletion
Hello, I am a new user on here, and I just thought of this video series. A lot of people watch it and my first place to go when googling things, basically, is here. I think the article is a good idea but if you don't want it here, I understand. Thank you for reading, hope to hear back from you.

MEEM WEAVER (talk) 01:32, 14 October 2016 (UTC) MEEM WEAVER
 * Thanks for the note, Meem Weaver. The article you created does not assert that the subject is significant or notable.  Notability is normally shown through providing reliable sources. I hope you continue to edit and contribute to Wikipedia.  Thanks! TonyBallioni (talk) 01:34, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

ডাক্তার সুমী রায়হান
Please don't decline a speedy without actually looking at the content. This was clearly spam. It was not a place but an advert for a Facebook page. --Majora (talk) 02:12, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I checked the content, and noted that on the pages needing translation page. The formatting makes no sense with the machine translation which is why I declined and listed it there and left a note on the original nominators page explaining as much. Sorry for any confusion or disagreement here. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:26, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The translated text was Doctor Sumi Raihan Facebook. The username was Sumiraihan. It was pretty clearly a spam attempt to advert the person's Facebook page. No need to apologize, just watch for that in the future. --Majora (talk) 02:29, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Didn't put together the name with the translation. Makes sense now. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:30, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry
I'm very stupid don't take this seriously Danecankle (talk) 03:37, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I just assume you're a vandal who is messing around. I'm not offended or taking it seriously, but if you vandalize another article I will report you to administrators which will likely result in a block. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:39, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

I do like to have fun Danecankle (talk) 03:40, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * So do I, but vandalizing wikipedia isn't something you should do for kicks. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:41, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Terry Shaughnessy - The Universal
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Reliable Sources
Tony, I'm not sure how to dig up reliable sources about my article since I actually retired from soccer 20 years ago. I was inspired to write an article on my career due to the fact they I have read many other articles about players that I actually played with. Can players who's articles are already approved on Wikipedia vouch for me? Otherwise I'm finding it difficult to dig up reliable sources from 20 years ago and beyond. Most of my career took place over 30 years ago.

Thank you, Gary DowneyGdowney55 (talk) 04:36, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

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Declined speedy
Hi, TonyBallioni, I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for the stub article Matthews_real_estate_investment_services criteria for speedy deletion. The article is backed up by a reference from a nationally recognized industry publication that cites the firm as being a top brokerage firm in the United States. Can you please clarify your reason for speedy deletion? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Geejayen (talk) 21:43, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, unfortunately, you cannot decline a speedy deletion since you created the page. You have contested the deletion, and the reviewing admin will see your reasoning on the talk page of the article. My view is that being a large privately listed real estate holding company does not make an company significant, especially since it is ranked higher up on that list by a industry publication. Being the 38th largest private real estate firm does not necessarily convey significance or notability. Thanks for your note.  TonyBallioni (talk) 21:52, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi TonyBallioni, thank you for the clarification. Geejayen (talk) 22:02, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi, TonyBallioni. Thank you for your work on patrolling pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for Interstellar (hamilton), a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, under criterion G1 because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. It's not very well written, but it's not "incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content" - the author is clearly trying to write something or other about a clock from a movie. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers, criteria for speedy deletion, and particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion or proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. Thanks!--McGeddon (talk) 18:10, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I still disagree here, the text at the beginning gives you an idea of what they are trying to do, but the further random listing of attributes is incoherent to the point of making the article essentially gibberish. I generally try to avoid that criteria since it very rarely is actually needed, but thought it fit. I'll tag it as a prod instead, however, since you declined it. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:16, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I see you tag it as A10. Again, thanks for the heads up. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:18, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem. I guess the "In short, if you can understand it, G1 does not apply." of G1 is subjective - it just read like a coherent (if boring) list of watch features, to me. --McGeddon (talk) 18:20, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yeah, subjective criteria. I was reading it as a whole and couldn't make heads or tails of it except that it was about the movie somehow. Anyway, it'll be gone soon regardless. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:22, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Hello again. Have just declined Scot whitlock, which you'd tagged as G11 ("serves only to promote or publicise an entity, person, product, or idea, and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic"), but it's just a bland overview of a writer - if it turns out he meets WP:BASIC, it's fine as written. It could be WP:A7, but I don't see that it's "unambiguous advertising". --McGeddon (talk) 14:10, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, for the heads up I placed the tag because it is pretty apparent that the article was written by the subject's wife and linked directly to the publishers website while reading like a dustjacket bio of the author, which to me suggests that it was a fundamentally promotional article. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:14, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, these are all big red flags. But G11 explicitly requires that the article to be such promotional trash ("A N Other is an exciting new author, buy his new book now!", etc) that it would have to be "fundamentally rewritten" - the current Scot whitlock article is dust jacket stuff, but is as neutrally written as any author stub could be. --McGeddon (talk) 14:31, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Got it. Like I said earlier, thanks for letting me know. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:35, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

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Need help with creating a biography page
Hi, Thank you for reviewing my first page biography for James Dargie. Can you give me some help in fixing the issues you had? I'm trying to do everything that's needed and it doesn't seems to make sense to me. Any help appreciated. Thank you! NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 04:55, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * thanks for contacting me. Wikipedia has notability guidelines that a subject should meet before they are included in Wikipedia (WP:GNG and WP:BIO are good places to start). When I was reviewing that article, I did not see any evidence in the sources that the subject had met those guidelines. Additionally, there were a lot of red links and some improperly formatted text in the body of the draft. Red links are not bad in themselves, but they can sometimes confuse people, especially when they are in the infobox. If you go to Your first article it will give you more help on how to create an article. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:33, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Clarity on a biography
Hi Tony,

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I looked over the submission guidelines and saw two criteria my subject met. Under Biography in section 2 it states "The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field". Mr Dargie has certainly done that. With his work of hits like Call of Duty, Medal of Honor and Metroid, not to mention groundbreaking films like Final Fantasy (the first adult CG film) and the Matrix movies.

Next under Creative Professionals in section 3 it states, "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." Again, Mr Dargie has done this with the same titles mentioned.

He is a very helpful and friendly leader in the field and I want to start his bio page to share his works more with others who may not know.

How are his contributions different from say, someone who is credited for writing a book?

Maybe I am missing something. Any additional help would be appreciated... especially with the formatting ;)

Thank you! NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 19:38, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. All of these things need to be demonstrated by substantial coverage reliable sources that are placed in the article verifying these claims. The sources currently in the article in my opinion are either not reliable, or present trivial coverage. If you can find more coverage in sources that can be placed in the article to verify your claims to notability, then another reviewer can accept it when they are added and resubmitted. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:15, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

The Truth in Muhammad
don't make language mistakes when you edit articles, in  The Truth in Muhammad you wrote  they view God as still.. !! still is verb .. be responsable when you edit, if not don't edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bilal philosopher (talk • contribs) 19:25, 28 November 2016 (UTC) brother I used still as a verb not an adv ,with your editing you changed meaning futher article is about philosophy and theology so words must be precise, you have no right to change what I used as verb to an adv , understand what I mean first , if u want to keep ur edit remove still and write so before they view.
 * Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, and while I won't further revert because I don't want to get into an edit war over copy editing, I stand by my edits. I have my degree in philosophy from a top university philosophy department, so I a very much understand the need for precision. That being said, the English prose that you wrote in this regard was very difficult to understand and was a run-on sentence that needed to be broken up. It was not precise. What are you trying to say in the sentence? I'll gladly help you edit it to make it better. That way it has a chance of surviving the deletion discussion that is ongoing. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:09, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

what do you mean with '' prose english.. '' ??--Bilal philosopher (talk) 20:36, 28 November 2016 (UTC) my language was technically philisophical !! what's wrong ?? except if you don't understand philosophical terminololy that I use--Bilal philosopher (talk) 20:47, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Prose is normal written English. Like I'm writing now. The paragraph you wrote is one sentence without any punctuation that is difficult to comprehend. There was no punctuation so it was a run-on sentence, and even if the correct punctuation would have been added, there were so many ideas going on in the sentence that it would have been very difficult for a native speaker of English, even one with philosophical training, to comprehend it. Stylistically, it is often considered better and more precise to break up complex ideas into multiple sentences so that the reader can understand this. This is also true in academic philosophy. What is important is that the person reading your writing can understand it, and when you put so many ideas into one sentence like that, it is very difficult to do. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:21, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

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American Iron Works
Hi good day,

I noticed you deleted the American Iron Works newly created page, I would like to correct what needs to be corrected but I am confused on what else was required.

American Iron works is this years Washington Business Congress 2017 Craftsmanship award winner for their Miscellaneous metals work on the National African American Museum. I cited the link there which was http://www.wbcnet.org/craftsmanship-awards/current-and-past-winners/2017-craftsmanship-awards-winners/

If you wanted to add more links, I could also include the 2016 award AIW Inc received for the structural steel they provided for the Inova Women’s Hospital and Inova Children’s Hospital in Falls Church, VA https://www.wbcnet.org/uploads/Apr-May16_WBC_Bulletin_final.pdf

Please let me know what else should be added. I wanted to make sure this page was created because its called out in other Wiki articles (See NMAAHC) but as the page never was created I cant link it.

Please let me know when you get a chance, I appreciate your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.167.195.65 (talk) 15:15, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I've responded on your talk page. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:56, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Okay, thanks My apologies I would have thought primary sources would be ideal for this to confirm its accuracy. However as you asked I then added additional sources for the awards. Secondary and primary sources for each.

2017 Craftsmanship Award – Miscellaneous Metal Fabrication National Museum of African American History and Culture, Washington, DC http://docplayer.net/7052400-Years-quality-construction.html http://www.wbcnet.org/craftsmanship-awards/current-and-past-winners/2017-craftsmanship-awards-winners/?zoom_highlight=%22american+iron+works%22

2016 Craftsmanship Award – Structural Steel Framing 601 Massachusetts Avenue, Washington, D.C Inova Women’s Hospital and Inova Children’s Hospital, Falls Church, Va https://www.aisc.org/modernsteel/news/2016/april/steel-companies-honored-in-washington-building-congress-craftsmanship-awards/#.WIKEF-QzUis http://www.wbcnet.org/craftsmanship-awards/current-and-past-winners/2016-craftsmanship-awards-winners/?zoom_highlight=%22american+iron+works%22

2014 Craftsmanship Awards – Structural Steel Framing Project: 1812 North Moore Street, Arlington, VA http://docplayer.net/17082361-Consulting-industry-report-2-inside-58-th-wbc-calendar-32.html http://www.wbcnet.org/craftsmanship-awards/current-and-past-winners/2014-craftsmanship-awards-winners/?zoom_highlight=%22american+iron+works%22

Please let me know if this now works and can be incorporated.

Thanks again.

Lifestyle sport
I don't understand why you declined my request. She specifically equates the terms extreme sport and lifestyle sport in the "What are lifestyle sports?" section at the middle of the page. Did you check the three-line paragraph at the bottom of the page? Or did you not look at the book itself? 208.95.51.72 (talk) 13:09, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Leaving this reply on your talk page as well in case you don't see it here. Upon first reviewing, it appeared to me that the lifestyle sport term was broader than our article on extreme sport, and thus tthat "extreme" was a subcategory of "lifestyle". I have re-reviewed and created the redirect because upon further review, they do appear to be about the same concept. Sorry for any frustration. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:12, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! I hope I didn't sound angry, because I was only confused.  And thank you for leaving the note at my talk page, because I wouldn't have thought to look here.  208.95.51.72 (talk) 19:04, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Temple
The main reason to use the word temple is to use a synonym of place of worship .. I also use the words church, religious building etc but it is also valid to use temple because temple comes from the Latin word, templum .. (Catholic Encyclopedia) Jewish synagogues and Christian churches have also been called temples for centuries ... based on what the Bible says ... a historical Catholic and Christian example is the order of the Knights Templar, so baptized by the Temple of Solomon ... An example of the combination of both words is found in churches such as Temple Church in London which is now an Anglican church but which was a Catholic church built by the Crusaders. Another example is the "Templum Domini" (Temple of the Lord in latin) a church of the crusaders in jerusalem, and thus there are many other examples..--Warairarepano&#38;Guaicaipuro (talk) 13:03, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Deletion inquiry
Was wondering if you'd kindly be interested in assessing Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Heap_(company) (since you participated in the Mixpanel deletion discussion). It seems users DGG and SwisterTwister routinely vote for deletion together without offering analysis, so I wanted to get a third-party involved. I'm not fishing for a keep, but I am looking for a legitimate discussion if possible. Thanks for any consideration. GDWin (talk) GDWin —Preceding undated comment added 22:31, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

AFC Redirects -how ?
Just as an FYI, as a registered user, you can create redirects on your own. I went ahead and created the one you requested, but just wanted to let you know that you do not need to go through AFC. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:25, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for creating and, yes, would love to create my own: could you share a link about how?  Gratefully - --Aboudaqn (talk) 18:36, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure! You can find instructions here. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:41, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Many thanks! - --Aboudaqn (talk) 18:48, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Farhad G. Mahani
Hi TonyBallioni, I recently proposed the article above for deletion as I thought it was unsourced and I did not realise external links count as citations. After removing the tag you told me to look at WP:N which says that articles must have third party sources, which this article does not have (I did try to find some). Should I make an AfD or could this article be deleted with an A7? Thanks. Laurdecl talk 23:55, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * A7 would probably be inappropriate because it requires no credible assertion of significance, and the awards the article asserts meet that lower bar than notability in my opinion. You actually didn't use the standard PROD process. You used WP:BLPPROD, which is only for articles with no sources at all. You could use a regular PROD or AfD on this article. I'm not familiar enough with the topic/don't have time to look for sources to express an opinion on it beyond agreeing with you that its in bad shape now (Christmas and all). If you do decide to PROD it or nominate it via AfD, remember to read WP:BEFORE, Hope that was helpful! TonyBallioni (talk) 01:43, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Laurdecl talk 04:26, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Joanna Gaines
No problem with you creating an article for her as long as you can demonstrated her notability as an individual. Deb (talk) 17:02, 25 December 2016 (UTC)