User talk:Trut-h-urts man/Archive 1

Lafe Smith
FYI...I thought you might want to know that Lafe Smith has been blocked indefinitely from Wikipedia for being a sock puppet. OCNative (talk) 15:10, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Roy Halladay
A general reader who knows little to nothing about baseball may have no idea what a perfect game is. A short explanation is more than plausible, per WP:JARGON. If you would like to make further comment on the issue, I suggest starting a thread at Talk:Roy Halladay. Thanks &mdash; KV5  •  Talk  •  17:58, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

I have started a discussion on the talk page. Please share your opinion there. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 18:51, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

José Bautista
I hope you realize the statement is about what the comentator said; not about if it's true or not. Irregardless of he's right or wrong, the fact is the announcer stated it. Kingjeff (talk) 23:46, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I do realize that, but it doesnt change the fact that it has no place on Bautista's page because the accusation is baseless. The announcer said it, and alot of announcers have said things about Bautista and other players. Should we add everything ever said about anyone? No, and especially not where there is no proof. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 02:30, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks (List of unusual deaths)
Thanks for fixing my botched edit in List of unusual deaths. There are some times that my cursor inexplicably jumps to the top of the edit window as I type (I think I am too impatient as the edit window opens), but I usually catch it before saving. TJRC (talk) 01:16, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the message friend - I find my cursor sometimes jumps too, but I think its because of my lazy thumbs touching my mouse pad hahaha. Have a good one Trut-h-urts man (talk) 01:33, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Brandon Morrow
listen buddy. Brandon Morrow is married to goddamn Lily Morrow. he ain't single. what is wrong with my edits? Pandabear23 (talk) 20:52, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't know how to put a reference! It's too confusing. My source is twitter. Lily Morrow's bio says she is married to him and he tweets about her too. Can you do it? A lot of young girls are going to think he is single and because of his wiki and cry when they find out it's a lie! Pandabear23 (talk) 01:35, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Well I teared up. Just a bit. Pandabear23 (talk) 02:38, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Pandabear23 (talk) 23:19, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

A Discussion would be nice before you undo 2 of my contributions
I can see you followed my recent contributions in Wikipedia and undid two of my recent works. Would you like to discuss about it? Give a reason for your UNDOING revisions? I am sure you probably did not know about Gunsite Academy being founded by Jeff Cooper himself until I link the pages together and mentioned it? We could discuss this Gunsite Scout Rifle if you wished to. Now undoing Surly because I am sure most people do not know what that word means. There are many disambiguation pages that carries a short definition of the word and links. Sorry but I guess my vocabulary did not include Surly and so when I searched my favorite reference site I was not given a proper answer. Now I had to look up in the dictionary http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/surly and I decided to include it on Wikipedia for others as a quick reference. I will also like to know if I committed some kinda of Wikipedia crime to have it undone just like that...... hey it is better to find out if I am doing anything wrong or I will be contributing for nothing right? Thanks. Neoking (talk) 22:48, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

New Section
Hi,

I was trying to translate at the Wikipedia, but I saw that what I have written have been begun to be deleted. For example, "Architectural form" category that I wrote last... Why did you delete it?--Mustafa Bakacak (talk) 20:30, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

OK. You think, how should I edit and write this article? --Mustafa Bakacak (talk) 13:50, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Explain
I checked your message. I have explanation for you about my editing job. First, What I did was not disruptive editing. I fixed WRONG LINK. For example, in Miss California USA pages, you can find '2011' link at the table named 'Winners'. But '2011' is linked Miss USA 2011 page not 'Miss California USA 2011' page. This is incorrect. ('Miss California USA 2011' page doesn't exist.) And in Miss USA page, you can find '2011' link at the table named 'Recent titleholders'. This '2011' is linked Miss USA 2011 page too. This is correct. Do you understand what I mean? I've already discuss other user, but I want to talk to you who sent message to me first. series (talk) 03:00, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


 * You didn't fix anything - nothing was broken. The year links to the main article (ie 2011 links to Miss USA 2011). The individual person (which your example has titled "Miss California USA 2011") has a NAME, and if that person is notable enough to satisfy Wiki's notability standards, they will have their own page (linked to their NAME, not their TITLE). To help illustrate my point, notice that Rima Fakih has her own page, which is not called "Miss USA 2010". That is her TITLE, not her NAME. I hope this explains why your edits were indeed disruptive. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 03:13, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


 * No, I'm not saying that "Miss California USA 2010" is a person's name. Of course I'm not saying that "2010" of the table named "Winners" in Miss California USA should be linked to "Nicole Johnson"(Miss California USA 2010 winner). "Miss California USA 2010" is a PAGEANT's NAME like "Miss USA 2010", "Miss Universe 2010".(NOT those pageant's winner) So "2010" of the table named "Winners" in Miss California USA should be linked "Miss California USA 2010" page(if it exist) not "Miss USA 2010" page. (If it exist,) "Miss California USA 2010" page should have information about contestant, venue...(again, NOT winner) of Miss California USA 2010 pageant. But! "Miss California USA 2010" page does not exist. So "2010" of the table named "Winners" in Miss California USA should be unlinked. series (talk) 03:35, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I think you're missing the point here. The page is better with its' piped wikilinks - it provides more information to the user. The pages you're suggesting a link to do not exist, therefore no change was needed, not a complete unlinking of every page. This is the opinion of every editor who has voiced their opinion on this topic - you are the only one who thinks this needs change. To me, this would constitute a clear consensus that nothing needed to be changed. The fact that you continued to make these changes after you were warned (3 times!) illustrates to me that you do not yet understand the way things work on Wikipedia. When you get a new message notification (the yellowish orange bar accross the top of your screen) you should really look into is ASAP, as the message more tha likely relates to something you edited recently (which may have helped to avoid additional reverting of your edits and continued warnings). I don't want to come off as rude, but you should really to read up on what is expected from editors. WP:HELP helped me quite a bit when I was a new editor and I think it will help you too. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 04:22, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Are you kidding me?
You just undid my revisions and labeled it 'unnecessary edits'...? How the hell were they unnecessary? It reduced a lot of the clutter and cleaned up the page. Es0terick (talk) 19:24, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I undid your revision in which you removed all my edits.. If you have an issue or a problem with one specific part of the revision, manually fix that one, don't go and remove the entire damned revision. You act like you own the page. Es0terick (talk) 19:29, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Removal of references? That whole team rewards section is one that I added MYSELF. Those references, I realized, are unnecessary, the same way there are no references next to his Hank Aaron and All Star mentions. Having all those citations in the accomplishments box, is in fact a clutter, and if when I added that section (Team Rewards), had I not added those citations in the first place, we wouldn't even be talking about this. Es0terick (talk) 01:49, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

I've said it multiple times, I don't have any problem whatsoever with you editing my revisions. I feel it would be better off if you would. My only quarrel is with you undo'ing the whole entire revision for a few mistakes and glitches. Cleaning up my revisions is perfectly fine with me, but it's irritating to spend time on a revision just to have it undone over a few small errors that could have easily been edited. Es0terick (talk) 17:33, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Vote
Hi Trut. I left word in the edit summary, but thought I would leave it here as well as we seem to be reading the same source. But somehow we are reading it differently. The ref says "received the most fan votes in league history". Not in "major league" history. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:19, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Good job finding that better reference! Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:41, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

American Horror Story
I see you've been undoing other people's edits on here - calling the changes they made "unnecessary" and you did the same to me even though I explained a reason for my edit. Go to the American Horror Story talk page if you have a problem with my edit. Let Me Eat Cake (talk) 15:36, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Arn - The Knight Templar
Hi! Busy days at work so I haven't had the time to translate yet. As a gesture of goodwill, I've reverted my own edits in the meantime back to your version. I'll get back to it when I find the time. Cheers Jeppiz (talk) 10:07, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit
How do you figure? C T J F 8 3  13:28, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

A crossover, their creator, network, etc etc. You'll also note that both American Dad! and The Cleveland Show are listed under "Related shows" on the Family Guy page, so their pages should reflect that relationship as well. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 17:39, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Uh, Family Guy characters have appeared on both shows and vice versa. Cleveland and American Dad characters have never appeared on each other's show. The creator has nothing to do with it being related and especially not the network. C T J F 8 3  22:23, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh, really? Because the final episode of the three-part crossover, titled Hurricane!, is an American Dad episode with Cleveland and Peter making an appearance at the end. So if that is the requirement to establish a relationship as you have implied, they are clearly related. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 03:47, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * A minute or two isn't really much, perhaps we should go to WP:3O. Who else appeared, just Cleveland, I can't remember. He could still be considered a Family Guy character.  C T J F 8 3  12:50, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

snlogsdon
I hope I'm doing this right.

Re: Merlin Error: I was going by their FAQ, which does currently read that it is currently airing. After further investigation EVERYWHERE but the the official website, I realize that this is correct, and I've sent a semi scathing albeit polite- not enough space to be otherwise- email to their Website Help page. I don't know if they'll read it but I know I'm furious. I only looked for it because my parents are the Merlin fans- I'm a Doctor Who girl myself. To see the error on the official page yourself, please refer to: http://www.bbc.co.uk/merlin/faq/show where it currently states(retrieval time 8:24pm EST): "When is Merlin on TV? Merlin Series 4 is currently being shown on Saturday nights on BBC One and is repeated on BBC Three." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snlogsdon (talk • contribs) 01:27, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

X Factor episodes
Please don't revert the edits for the X Factor guide I created. It is considered vandalism to me. Thanks. 68.44.179.54 (talk) 01:25, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Brett Lawrie
Ummm, why do you keep reverting my edits on Brett Lawrie? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.20.114 (talk) 21:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Because this is an encyclopedia, not a message board. Your edit does not improve the page. Opinion and predictions have no place here. Please read WP:SOAP if you mean to edit Wikipedia. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 22:03, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. I still believe that something should be put under a 2012 heading as the pre-season is under way. If I edit again (not to my opinion, but fact) will I be blocked from the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.20.114 (talk) 22:09, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

No, you won't be blocked, so long as what you do add can be verified through the use of a reference. Generally spring training games are not very important, but you could add something like "For the 2012 season, Lawrie is a member of the 40-man roster and played with the Blue Jays during Spring Training.", and add statistics after spring training has concluded (i.e. .xxx batting average, xx hits, etc) as long as its referenced. WP:V can provide all information regarding referencing and verifiability. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 22:17, 13 March 2012 (UTC)


 * This article may be of some use to you Trut-h-urts man (talk) 22:19, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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Guest lists in AGoT episodes
Thanks for adding to the articles, but I'd previously removed many of those listings per feedback in the Good Article process. Normally, only up to a handful of actors are credited in episodes, and the feedback I received was that there were already too many minor characters listed. We do have the IMDb link in each article, where interested readers can go for the complete list of actors appearing in an episode. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 19:31, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. When writing/adding to the guest lists in the future, I'll be sure to leave the less notable appearances off. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 20:57, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Louis Theroux
I see no reason to undo this edit as "unreferenced" considering that, for example, his British citizenship is not referenced either. I'm quite happy to provide sourcing, but considering the fact that his father is American, a reference strikes me as superfluous at best. Dmk2113 (talk) 03:25, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Miley Cyrus
Hi, I have already been over this with another editor, but it may warrant placement of a hidden comment in the text since this seems to be a common misconception that someone has bowdlerized or censored the quote from a reliable source. Indeed the quote itself says precisely 'You know you smoke way too much f****n' weed.'. Watch the video accompanying it and you will see that the word is bleeped, so there is no way (other than using original research to know what word Cyrus said and we should not be inserting our own interpretation when a direct quote from a source is used. Thanks. Elizium23 (talk) 21:48, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

The Prince of Winterfell
Trut-h-urts, I've reverted to a redirect, for a couple of reasons. There is indication that the episode is independently notable and deserves an article in the first place, there are no references for it whatsoever and as such it's equivalent to, for instance, an album that has only a tracklist, and the episode hasn't even aired yet. I don't want to get into a pissing contest, and I'm not going to plow through and find the others (which you suggest exist also), but our guidelines do not support the existence for such an article. When the episode airs, and when references can be added to support notability, it can easily be restored. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 14:18, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not my intention to get is a pissing match either, and I can see your point about the lack of notability for an episode which has not aired. My revert was automatic to me, as we're now almost 8 weeks into this season of GoT and this has been the way its been done since the start. Once it airs it is easily restored, and I'll be sure not to jump the gun in the future. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 16:13, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, it's tempting to make all those articles--same format, easy copying, that's very understandable. But I'm not alone in my opinion that all articles need proper referencing to establish independent notability and the appropriateness of having a separate article. The more you add, the better your case looks. Good luck, and enjoy the show (I don't watch it--too much excitement for an old person). Drmies (talk) 20:12, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Hatfields & McCoys (TV miniseries) "historical" section
I saw where you removed it. Thanks. I opened it for discussion at the talk page before you deleted it on the main page. I also found it as trivia. Anyone can look at the actual feud page if they want to know about the "history". I don't see how anyone would know what actually happened 130 years ago, plus source it. — WylieCoyote (talk) 20:02, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Yuerrazikk-opa-gi "comb" lake monster
Hi Trut-h-urts man, This article is a typical creation (with IP addresses to match) of serial vandal Eddie Ostrowski. I've notified User:EncMstr who has created a filter to block him. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 08:18, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * After being deleted, this article has just been recreated on the talk page. Cheers. Bahudhara (talk) 06:09, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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24
I'm sorry to bother, but whats-his-face & I have been gnawing one another's faces off about the cast & 24 issue all day today. I think a consensus can be found for the two shows to be related; both share similar styles, themes, producers & writers-- as well as production studios. In the same sense, if you were to say the two aren't related, then you would have no choice but to say that Breaking Bad and Mad Men weren't sister series-- and that would be plain ridiculous.

I don't have a problem removing the related show, but please don't mess with the cast edit which I think is more than necessary. Thanks.

---Saw1998 (talk) 00:14, 4 October 2012 (UTC)


 * First off, "whats-his-face" has a name (or username, if you'd prefer), and you'd do well to learn it and show some mutual respect. In my experience here, we do not make major changes without consensus, which is clearly lacking in your cast list reduction and "24" listing as a related series. I unserstand that the two wrote for both series, and the theme is certainly similar, but they do not take place in the same universe (i.e. "Cheers" and "Frasier"). Your example of "Mad Men" and "Breaking Bad" along the same lines, but is incorrect. If Don Draper appeared as an old man in Breaking Bad, you might have a case, but I sincerely hope that never happens (crossover episodes are usually terrible). If Jack Bauer appears in Homeland, that could be enough for inclusion, but in my personal opinion it would need to happen a few times to be sure. The cast list for the Homeland page is not excessive. In cases where the list is excessive (see the Game of Thrones page history) it is reduced or even redirected, but never without consensus. You should read WP:3RR as soon as possible, and begin a discussion on the talk page where other editors can voice their opinion. Until a consensus is reached, the page will remain as is. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 00:28, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Season-ending stats
Hello there. Just thought I'd drop by and say thanks for your season-ending stat work on baseball player articles, including Toronto Blue Jays and their players. Just an FYI...don't forget to add "season" to the end of "2012" when updating season-ending stats. Happy editing! Zepppep (talk) 07:31, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: User talk:MitjaBene
Talkback|MitjaBene

Hm this wiki msg postin is quite confusig

Yes no referenc sorce or what did you call it How about i live there, its my village, where are you from Cannada? I know the story of my own village, first hand, i am the source. And you cant youst leve it, i wouldnt write it for fun you know, whell i did actualy because its true and its my village i want there to be some info about Prezrenje so if one ore two persons who will see it sais to him selfe see we are not small thers info about us on wikipedia, so please just leave it or do an extensive search if you do not belive a mans story about his village..

Thak you Regards, Mitja — Preceding unsigned comment added by MitjaBene (talk • contribs) 19:29, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

If you're writing about your village with no reliable source, it is original research, which we do not use on Wikipedia. Please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia policy. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 19:47, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

You are a sad sad man
I want to help you, does nobody else care? Nobody? Cmon be brave call somebody, not 911 whats the noumber there.. they will help you, they got pills sourgery You dont have to be alone anymore.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MitjaBene (talk • contribs) 20:05, 6 November 2012 (UTC)


 * That might be the funniest thing I've ever had on my talk page. If I am deciphering your broken english correctly, you don't agree with my reasoning for reverting your "contribution" to Wikipedia. I wouldn't argue that you need pills or surgery, only to familiarize yourself with policy. Original research (i.e. your whole story) cannot be independently verified, so it is unreliable, and if it is unreliable, it gets deleted. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 20:34, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm Soooo Sorry
You know, all you said was stop. You didn't give me a warning or say "could you please not do this until the trade is official", but instead you were a jerk and said to stop it, or else. I was thinking that my Yankees could have a run for our money against the Blue Jays, but because of you I hope the Blue Jays fail. I love baseball, I doubt you know much without checking this site. 108.14.230.38 (talk) 22:30, 17 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Well gee Anon, once I corrected the numerous spelling and grammatical errors in your post, I realized I'm even more sorry. I assumed that you had read one or more reliable sources regarding the trade, and how it is not official yet. I also assumed you could read the banner at the top of the page for each affected player. Here it is just in case you want to give it a once-over. I had to laugh when you said you are a Yankees fan, as the first thing that came to mind is that you're a "Crankees fan". I could care less if you want the Blue Jays to fail. I want the Yankees to fail, but you could care less too. If you're going to make meaningful contributions to Wikipedia, you need to learn the difference between official and unofficial. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 19:50, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Gibbons
I don't understand why you have to wait until the season starts to state that Gibbons is managing the Jays in 2013. Other articles always state the first year of a manager's tenure the moment after he's officially hired (which Gibbons has been). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.170.6 (talk) 01:44, 21 November 2012 (UTC)


 * When I started editing I was told that that information was not added to the infobox until the season started, as nothing is guaranteed. Gibbons could be fired tomorrow or even die, having not coached a single 2013 game. Also, saying "2013-present" is incorrect, as the current year is 2012. Hopefully this clears things up. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 04:24, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Karen David
With reference to your persitant overuse of the citation tag on the Karen David page and the posting of another type of template. I have been in discussions from the start with Administrators as to my connections with Karen David and that a group of fans has created/improved her wiki page. This is quite acceptable to wiki admin and I feel no reason to discuss it with you. Please remove the template from the heading immediately or I will report you for vandalism. On the issue of overuse of the citation tag, it clearly goes against wiki policy and you made no attempt to retain the look of the page by contacting anyone with your views, if indeed it was you who placed them, I don't know this for sure. I don't believe you had the best interests of wiki at heart, although I will concede that some referencing material is necessary and I and others are working on finding some at this very moment. RKDia (talk) 18:41, 22 November 2012 (UTC)


 * The most important rule of Wikipedia is verifiability, especially on pages of living persons, which that page is clearly in violation of. The vast majority of information on the page is not accompanied by a reliable source. You are correct on one issue - I should not have added "citation needed tags" to the page. If you'll look to citation needed page, it clearly states that unsourced/poorly sourced information on a BLP page should be immediately removed, and not tagged.
 * Where is your conversation with this anonymous "wiki admin"? The one that you claim has no issue with you and a "group of fans improving" the page without citing reliable sources? I would very much like to read it. As it stands right now, the page is in major violation of BLP and I will not remove the Ref Improve tag, nor will I remove the COI tag. What I or other editors should do is remove everything from the page that is not accompanied by a reliable source, but I'm only mostly an asshole and not a complete one. If you (or others) add reliable sources to back what is on the page it can stay. Until you (or others) do, the tags stay. Threats will get you nowhere. Go ahead and contact anyone you like. You clearly don't know what vandalism is and what is not vandalism. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 19:29, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Star Trek
Please note that Wikipedia Manual of Style guidelines state the title of the next Star Trek movie must be written as Star Trek into Darkness, with a lowercase "i". -- Scjessey (talk) 22:36, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * You've made my day. Thank you very much. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 21:10, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C) 21:26, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

James Loney
Just out of curiosity, where you still interested in a page move there? Automatic Strikeout ( T  •  C) 02:09, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I figured it was a no-brainer - similar to Talk:Ricky Romero (475,000 Google results for "Ricky Romero baseball" vs. 210,000 for "Ricky Romero wrestling"). While I know the other subject is notable enough to have their own page, the baseball player is clearly more notable currently (716,000 results for "James Loney baseball vs. 42,700 for "James Loney activist"). When I requested help the page was still in the middle of the tug of war between anonymous editors jumping the gun and those of us who look before we leap. I thought I would back off until the deal became official, and since then I've been bogged down with more "free agent frenzy". But to answer your question - yes, I still think the page should be moved, and throw in a hatnote for the activist. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 02:40, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not completely super-sure I agree, but I do think you should try requesting a move. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C) 02:43, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Royals/Rays Trade
Go ahead and delete this as well if you'd like... but what kind of response is that?

The only response that I'll give to someone who doesn't understand the way things work here. We wait until things are official.Trut-h-urts man (talk) 04:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Everyone, please calm down. I think the best thing to do here is to add a sentence to the article about the reported trade, but not to change the infobox information until it is official. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C) 04:55, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * That was my thinking behind the hidden notes. I have not read a reliable source which states that Shields and the other players involved have passed a physical, so I think my response is appropriate.Trut-h-urts man (talk) 04:57, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * It's best to stay calm, especially when dealing with a new-ish editor (who could also have been more calm). The thing is, the hidden notes cannot be seen by the reader, so he may think the article is out-dated if there is no other mention of the purported trade at all. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C) 04:59, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

You know, you could really learn some people skills from AS. But at least you admit you're an asshole. I always like to end conversations in agreement. (This is for you, AS--->) Schreineradam (talk) 05:01, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello? Pot? Kettle calling. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 05:11, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm glad to see you signing your post, that's good :). However, please be aware of our policy regarding personal attacks. Besides, I've never had any issues with Trut-h-urts man and I don't think he intends to come off as being rude. It's probably fairly late for both of you, so that may be a factor in this conversation. I understand that edit disputes can be frustrating, but let's all try to be polite. It will make things easier all the way around. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C) 05:04, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I wasn't attacking, I was quoting (see Karen David). And I'm even using indentation! Schreineradam (talk) 05:07, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your mediation efforts, AS.Trut-h-urts man (talk) 05:11, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. Hopefully this is resolved now. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C) 16:17, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've added more info and a hghly reliable source (MLB.com & the Royals official website) to the "pending trade" mention on the Shields article. Left in the "pending a physical" so no one will get their panties in a twist again, but if the trade is announced on the teams official website it seems pretty relaible and a done deal to me, barring some unforseen circumstance of course. Granted we all strive for accuracy, but there's such a thing as taking it too far and being obtuse just to prove we're the Wiki "alpha dog". Just one mans thoughts, not personally attacking anyone mind you. Best regards all. Sector001 (talk) 05:59, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

I think that's where the lines are getting crossed up. I've read most articles related to this trade and have yet to read "official" and anything about passed physicals. Most say "reported", which in my mind is not official. It's not about being the "alpha dog" or "obtuse" as you wrote, it's about being the most accurate we can be. Jumping the gun is one of the reasons why people don't take Wikipedia seriously, in my opinion. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 06:06, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
GSK ● ✉ ✓ 01:55, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

James Shields.....Again!
Could you please give me the benefit of your raeasoning for your latest edit to the James Shields article? You reverted the Kansas Ciy Royals from the article infobox despite the fact that the trade has been verified by multiple sources, and he is mentioned in the article opener as being a Royal. So how would WP:Crystal apply? For cryin out loud the Royals own official website has an article with big photo of Shields with team officials holding up a Royals jersey with his name on it. See this link: Just how mich more do you need? Sector001 (talk) 17:49, 13 December 2012 (UTC)


 * That information doesn't go in the inforbox until a player makes an appearance for a team. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, in that we don't make predictions. If Shields is traded tomorrow having not made an appearance, or should suffer an injury that sidelines him for the season, we look pretty stupid by having that line there. This is common practice at Wikipedia - I and other editors make these edits to numerous baseball players pages daily. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 17:55, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Good enough. I can accept the reasoning behind that, seems a little silly and "retentive" but I can deal. I'll change it back until he "officially" thows that first pitch.Sector001 (talk) 17:59, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's standard practice as far as I remember. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C) 20:05, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

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Cloud Atlas (film)
Do you ever feel like Sisyphus? Keep up the good work.-- Jim in Georgia Contribs  Talk  17:38, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Somebody's got to roll that boulder, but it only feels like a punishment after a few reverts. Have a good one. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 19:06, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Different Cloud Atlas discussion
¿Cómo puede ser información incorrecta? si el Personaje así se llama Zachry Bailey, si no has leído el libro, quiza no lo sepas, por lo tanto, lee el libro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.197.62.14 (talk) 18:27, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

This is the english Wikipedia. I do not speak spanish, so I am using Google translate. Here goes

El personaje de cine es conocido solamente como "Zachry". Esto hace referencia a la página oficial del elenco y los créditos finales de la película. El nombre del personaje en la novela es irrelevante para el artículo película. Estoy utilizando Google Translate para cambiar mi respuesta a españoles. Por favor, perdona cualquier error gramatical. Trut-h-urts man (T • C) 18:33, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Plot at Django Unchained
Could you provide your insight here? Talk:Django_Unchained

PraetorianFury (talk) 00:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you very much! Trut-h-urts man  (T • C) 18:42, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Question about episode deletes?
Hello-I'm curious about your edit to Storage Wars, [] I didn't change anything, but I was on-the-verge of re-inserting some episode references when I noticed the wholesale deletions that you did in that respect. I'm hoping that you can point me in the direction of the policy in that matter since I am starting to notice that in other edits of other television shows so I'm wondering if there is a good reason for taking episode references out when they are mentioned? TY24.0.133.234 (talk) 20:03, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I removed the specific episodes from the secondary person descriptions because they are unsourced, and really aren't important to the description of that person. The descriptions of characters (or in this case, "real" people) on a TV series page are intended to be kept short and to the facts. Having the titles of the episodes in which these secondary persons appear bloats the page, but doesn't really add much. However, if something noteworthy happened in one of these episodes (i.e. Person XXXX bought a storage unit in episode YYYY and found a one-of-a-kind ZZZZ) and this was accompanied by a reliable source, it could and should be included. If you're dead-set on including this info, I would suggest taking it to the List of Storage Wars episodes and adding these secondary character appearances to the episode summaries (i.e. "Person XXXX appears in this episode in addition to the principal cast"). Trut-h-urts man  (T • C) 20:55, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * TY for explaining. I will look at the removed eps. again, because there may have been at least one which was noteworthy for some commotion that was referenced in some other sources (but not mentioned on the episode guide?). It was just a co-incidence that I have seen the same thing done different ways. In the another instance the editor actually changed episode references (adding different episodes),and in doing-so the content of the meaning of the reference was changed somewhat so I wondered if there were some episode references that had certain "reasons" not to be included.24.0.133.234 (talk) 04:40, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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Now THIS is an awesome award. I'll be hanging it on the wall asap. Thanks Trut-h-urts man  (T • C) 23:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Oton
The user Gaming&Computing has removed a large portion of the ad-drivel, but I still believe GNG is not met. If you still support your initial !vote, please reiterate your support on the Articles_for_deletion/Oton page. Thanks! -Kai445 (talk) 22:55, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

"Weapon" or "WEAPON"
Hello, Trut-h-urts man

I am calling in reference to this revert. Actually, I made the change after playing Final Fantasy VII. So, could you please cite one instance in which "WEAPON" is used? A screenshot would be fine but I have saved games at hand.

Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 08:01, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello again
 * I have some screenshots for you from Ruby Weapon, Diamond Weapon, Emerald Weapon and Ultimate Weapon. In case you are concerned about the validity of these images, here is a package of saved games that helps you take screenshots of your own.


 * Now, passing over the matter of existence of "WEAPON" form, MOS:ALLCAPS says even if the form exists, all caps may not be used in Wikipedia except in two exceptional cases.


 * Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 08:57, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I think we are confusing the original 1997 PS1 version with the more recent re-release versions on PSN and the Square-Enix website (basing my assumption on your screenshots, which appear to be from a PSP/PSVita). I'm certainly not concerned with the validity of your images - I think we're both acting in good faith. In the original 1997 release, they are, without a doubt, referred to as "WEAPONs" on several occasions, as well as in the official strategy guide (which I can provide screenshots of). I have dug up my copy from '97 and am searching for old memory cards at the moment to get a screenshot for you, really just to prove I'm not completely off my rocker. You should note that Gaia (Final Fantasy VII) also uses the "WEAPON" spelling, and both pages use "AVALANCHE" and "SOLDIER" (I am unsure if these carried over to the download version). This is purely speculative, but I imagine the WEAPON spelling was used to differentiate between the bosses and the weapons you equip the characters with.
 * Where I get into a bit of a grey area is the reasoning with MOS:ALLCAPS. The "WEAPON" spelling is neither newspaper headline, track title, court decision, proclamation, trademark, latin quote or used for emphasis. Furthermore, the policy does not say it cannot be used, only that we as editors should "Avoid writing with all capitals..." and "reduce...as appropriate". Also important is this direct quote from the top of the page "...words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in sources are treated as proper names and capitalized in Wikipedia" which applies to the situation. In my personal opinion, reducing the "WEAPON" to lower case is not appropriate, as it then becomes difficult for readers to differentiate between the bosses and the equipment. I will hopefully soon secure a picture of the WEAPON spelling in use in the game and will post it here once I have it. Best wishes for the Easter season. Trut-h-urts man  (T • C) 23:57, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Removals
Why do you keep removing the things that I change they are valid.


 * Your edits that I reverted/corrected are adding improper capitalization (i.e. your edit "Starting Pitcher" should be "Starting pitcher", etc). In addition, "Closer" is a role on a team, and not a position. If a pitcher isn't a starter, he's a relief pitcher, or just "pitcher" for position. Please remember to sign your posts to talk pages with four tildes ( ~ ). Trut-h-urts man  (T • C) 21:08, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes I understand that a closer is a role on the team but it is a pitching position so then is should be a "Closer"


 * It's not a position. The position being played is "pitcher". Tehcnically speaking, and in my opinion, "Starting pitcher" and "Relief pitcher" are incorrect as well, but they seem to be quite prevalent on Wikipedia. Closer is a role on a team, and usually changes hands during a season. A pitcher will always be a pitcher, but only occasionally a closer, so the use of closer is incorrect in the infobox. The fact that a pitcher may act as a team's closer during a season should definitely be included in the article (especially in the event that they remain in that role for a significant amount of time, or record a large number of saves), but not in the infobox position value. It is worth noting that all of the players on the 300 saves club page list either "Pitcher" or "Relief pitcher" in their infoboxes. Trut-h-urts man  (T • C) 03:44, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

I have another question. Is all you do all day is sit on here and correct things that other people do that aren't completely correct because you have nothing better to do?


 * Somewhat - it takes part of a day, not the whole one, and often times I'm not sitting. If you're not mature enough to accept that you're doing something wrong (and would be an extremely simple fix), you shouldn't be editing. Perhaps you should give WP:EQ a read. Trut-h-urts man  (T • C) 04:15, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Ya well I am man enough and mature enough to admit that I did something wrong big fucking deal. All your doing is being a big tool it's a website not your life you take this way to seriously buddy you need to quit throwing your wait around on Wikipedia think your all good cause you think your a big shot. Your not even close. Quit correcting my mistakes and worry about your own fucking self. I'll sign that post Kingryan227 (talk) 04:34, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, that response clearly illustrates your level of maturity. Trut-h-urts man  (T • C) 04:46, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

But seriously can't you just do your own thing and stay out of my way I am not doing anything wrong so no need for you to be bothering me.Kingryan227 (talk) 04:50, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * My intention isn't to "get in your way" or "bother you". I was hoping to get you to change the way you were editing, that you might continue to edit and improve Wikipedia. You were doing something wrong, and even though it was relatively minor, it was wrong. It is a simple thing to discontinue changing "Free agent" to "Free Agent" or "Starting pitcher" to "Starting Pitcher". It is one or two capital letters, but you felt the need to escalate the problem to a rude talkback a few lines above this, perhaps because you thought I was carrying out some kind of vendetta against you (which is not the case). Hopefully we can agree that this is a minor issue blown way out of proportion, and is easily fixed. Life goes on. Trut-h-urts man  (T • C) 05:09, 8 May 2013 (UTC)