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Mullum Malarum
I have nominated Mullum Malarum for GA. May the force be with me. But I would prefer that the reviewer be someone else rather than a user I know. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:30, 2 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Excellent work by adding that rare contemporary review. Do u have the book Rajinikanth: A Birthday Special which u used as the source? (U can scan/photograph some pages relating to Mullum and send me them) Or is it still on sale that I can buy? Kailash29792 (talk) 07:17, 2 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The book was released a year ago (12.12.12). I bought it from Hindu's office last week; think it should be still available on sale. A limited preview of the book is available in Google books. I'll see if there's anything more to add about the film from the book. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  07:27, 2 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The article has shaped up well. You've touched films ranging across various decades which is a remarkable achievement; Chandralekha (40s), Parasakthi (50s), Karnan (60s). We don't GAs on Tamil films from 80s and 90s. Hope you'll get them to GA too! BTW, please have a look at this article and feel free to add any information. &mdash; Vensatry  (Ping me)  09:07, 2 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I would like to see Nayakan (1987) and Baashha (1995) also achieve GA status, although both are opposites in difficulty; while Nayakan has enough sources, it is hard to utilise them properly in the article. There are few available sources for Baasha, but seems easy to utilise them. As for Rakkamma Kaiya Thattu, I have few questions: Number one, isn't the song's full name "Adi Rakkamma Kaiya Thattu"? Number two, a translation of the title is missing, and the article needs it (due to its international popularity). I found this tape cover of Thalapathi (listed as "Dhalapathi"), will that do in the article? The article looks otherwise well written. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:33, 2 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The song is mostly referred to as "Rakkamma Kaiya Thattu" only; check with the sources. You may very well a translation. Coming to the images, I prefer a screenshot from the song to a cover. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  09:40, 2 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I got J. Mahendran's phone no (Redacted) through G. Dhananjayan, the author of The Best of Tamil Cinema: 1931 to 1976 and 1977 to 2010. But I did not call him yet bcos casual phone conversations cannot serve as sources for Wiki I think. Or can they? Kailash29792 (talk) 04:31, 3 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Still, is it possible to call him up seeking permission to use the image? Kailash29792 (talk) 07:59, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Great work! You could ask him to upload the image in Flickr or some photo sharing website and release the rights accordingly. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  08:11, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I contacted Mahendran, but he is going into all sorts of other details abt the film, without talking much abt the image (puzzling me in the process, and the call eventually got cut accidentally). Bcos he is technologically challenged, I doubt if he is able to upload the image anywhere else. I think u can try calling him and making him understand. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:23, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Really? I cannot call him but you may contact Balu Mahendra. He has an email id listed at his blog; I tried to contact him, but without success. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  09:56, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Balu has not yet replied to the mail I sent him. If I can give u Mahendran's no again, is it possible for u to convince him and get permission to use the image? I task I failed in? Kailash29792 (talk) 10:20, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry Kailash, as already said, I can't do that. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  10:48, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I have translated the contents from this source U|Kailash29792 had posted in the article's talk page. It has substantial info about both Mahendran and the film Thanga Pathakkam but not much about Mullum Malarum.

Mahendran became a director through Mullum Malarum

Mahendran, who was acclaimed for penning the story and dialogue for the Sivaji-starrer Thanga Padhakkam, became famous by directing Mullum Malarum. In 1966, Balan Pictures made Naam Moovar. Mahendran wrote the story and the film was a success. Follwing this, Mahendran wrote the story for Balan Pictures' subsequent projects like Sabash Thambi, Panakkarapillai etc. He was also the story writer for Niraikudam featuring Sivaji. A day after the completion of Niraikudam, Mahendran was preparing to leave to his home town. That is when actor Cho desired to meet him. Mahendran accepted Cho's invite and visited him. Cho revealed his plans to start a magazine named 'Thuglak' and requested Mahendran to write a film-review column called 'Post-mortem'. Mahendran accepted the offer and worked in 'Thuglak' for almost 3 years. On his experience at 'Thuglak', Mahendran said, "While I was working for 'Thuglak', my daughter Dimple fell ill and was taken to Egmore Peadiatric Hospital for treatment. After intensive treatment by the doctors, she healed. Following this, Cho and I, along with a few others went to Tirupati. Cho, who used to have a lot of hair back then, tonsured his head. When I asked him about it, he said, 'Mahendran! When your daughter was hospitalized, I looked at the Venkatachalapathi photo hanging on the wall and prayed to offer my hair when she gets well. And I did just that.' Hearign this I was teary-eyed. 'What a heart this man has', I wondered."

One day, actor Senthamarai and director S. A. Kannan came to visit Cho. Senthamarai asked Cho to write a story for his play. Mahendran gave him a one-line theme of 'The son of a strict police officer is a criminal'. At once, Senthamarai requested him to develop it into a full-length play. Within 5 days, Mahendran wrote the play and titled it One among two. The play premiered with Senthamarai portraying the role of S.P. Choudary. Sivaji, who came to the play, expressed his desire to act in the play as S.P. Choudary and to be produced through Sivaji Nadaga Mandram. The title was changed to 'Thanga Padakkam' (lit:Gold Medal). With Sivaji playing S.P. Choudary, the play was shown at the Music Academy. Following the success of the play, Sivaji presented Mahendran with a ring in conjunction with the 100th day show. Sivaji Films made Thanga Padakkam into a film with story and dialogue by Mahendran and P. Madhavan as the director. Sivaji lived through the role of S.P. Choudry. The film was a grand success and was remade into Telugu, Kannada and Hindi languages as well.

Mahendran worked in the films Thirudi as the story writer and Mogam Muppadhu Varusham as screenplay-dialogue writer. He then wrote the story and dialogue for film such as Aadupuli Aatam, Vaazhndhu Kaatuven, Vaazhvu En Pakkam,  Rishimoolam, Thaiyalkaaran, Kaali, Avalukku Aayiram Kangal, Chakravarthy, Sonthamadi Sontham, Nambikkai Natchathiram, the screenplay and dialogues for the films Naangal, Azhakiya Poove and the story for Paruvamazhai, Pagalil Oru Iravu, Kallazhagar, Hitler Umanath, Challenge Ramu (Telugu) and Thottadhellam Ponnagum (Telugu).

At this stage, Venu Chettiar of Anandhi Films planned to make a new film. He made Mahendran to direct it. Mullum Malarum was a novel by Uma Chandran with brother-sister sentiment as its theme. The film had screenplay, dialogue and direction by Mahendran. Rajnikanth played the borther while Shiba played his sister. Sarath Babu and Phataphat Jayalakshmi played other pivotal roles. Ilaiyaraja scored the music and the cinematography was by Balu Mahendra. Mullum Malaram was a mega-hit and attracted many. From a story-dialgue writer, Mahendran was catapulted to fame as one of the best director through just one film.

Mahendran recalled, "When I was a story-dialogue writer, Kamal Haasan's Malayalam film Madanolsavam was dubbed into Tamil as Paruva Mazhai. Kamal made me write the dialogue for the Tamil version. Later, I wrote the screenplay and dialogue for Kamal's Mogam Muppadhu Varusham. Later, during the making of Mullum Malarum, Kamal was instrumental in solving the rift between the producer and cinematographer. He's still concerned about my well being. When I said I was keen on casting Rajnikanth in the lead role of Kali, Venu Chettiar did not accept it initially. Yet, I was stubborn and made him the act in the lead role. Though Rajni was making a mark with his originality in portraying negative leads, I spotted his excellent character in his acting. He played the role of Kali to perfection and impressed one and all".

Regards. -- Sriram speak up  16:58, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Conversations with Mani
There is great info on Rakkamma in Page 111: RANGAN: Why did you choose to introduce the Draupadi character not through a scene but in the song Raakkamma Kaiya Thattu (in the Kunitha puruvamum portion towards the end)?

RATNAM: The song was conceived and composed with her introduction in mind. It was about two different strata, two different kinds of people who come across each other, about blending two worlds and merging them in a particular fashion. It's about an attraction towards what you are not. Two contrasting people become simultaneous aware of each other, and we were able to do it easily in a song that isn't just an item. It has a story to say. It starts with a relationship between two characters. We were able to get across something that is really sociological into a musical bit. Sometimes, it starts with just a glance.

Hope it is useful Kailash29792 (talk) 15:59, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Can you make the necessary changes if you're free, else send me a scan of the corresponding page. TIA &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  16:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The content u need is here Kailash29792 (talk) 17:16, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Mail notification
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 * Thanks man. -- Sriram speak up  11:54, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Vedaranyam March
The article Vedaranyam March you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Vedaranyam March for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Seabuckthorn -- 13:02, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Tiruchirappalli Railway Division
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DYK for Indian cricket team in South Africa in 2013–14
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Main Page appearance: Tiruchirappalli
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Tiruchirappalli is the fourth largest city in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu and is the administrative headquarters of Tiruchirappalli District. Its recorded history begins in the 3rd century BC, when it was under the rule of the Cholas. The city has also been ruled by the Pandyas, Pallavas, Vijayanagar Empire, Nayak Dynasty, the Carnatic state and the British. It played a crucial role in the Carnatic Wars (1746–63) between the British and the French East India companies. During British rule, the city was popular for the Trichinopoly cigar, its unique brand of cheroot. Monuments include the Rockfort (pictured), the Ranganathaswamy temple and the Jambukeswarar temple. It is an important educational centre in Tamil Nadu, housing nationally recognised institutions such as the Indian Institute of Management and the National Institute of Technology. The presence of a large number of energy equipment manufacturing units in and around the city has earned it the title of "Energy equipment and fabrication capital of India". Located almost at the centre of Tamil Nadu, the city has become a major road and railway hub in the state and is served by Tiruchirappalli International Airport. UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * Thanks Sriram :) &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  03:53, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I've been following the discussion on the FA and am pleased to see you and your collaborators have finally managed to bring your home town up to the top grade. Well done! I look forward to seeing it the main page soon.--Ipigott (talk) 09:37, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah thanks Ipigott, initially I thought of asking you to improve the article (prose) after the impressive work shown by you and Eric in MEA. Eric did a wonderful job! Kudos to both of you. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  10:31, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

TFA blurb looks fine!♦ Dr. Blofeld  22:02, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I know it's in northern India but I wondered if you'd be interested in gunning for GA on Varanasi first? I rewrote most of it a while back but I see that since it's been invaded and poorer edits and content have crept it given its high traffic.♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:46, 8 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The article looks interesting and is comprehensive for a GA level. Finding sources should be apparently easy for the city. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  15:03, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks &mdash; Vensatry  (Ping me)  15:03, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

A.R. Rahman
Hi.. I see your last edit closing the requests for change of birth year from 1966 to 1967.

I can send you snapshots of the book (Biography: The Musical Storm written by Kamini Mathai as dictated by A.R. Rahman)

(or)

I can connect you to his Manager who can confirm the year.

Thanks

Jahabar Sadique — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jahabar sadique (talk • contribs) 18:28, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * You may start a request at the article's talk page if you feel the year of birth is incorrect. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  15:03, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your extraordinary diligence!

 * Thanks &mdash; Vensatry  (Ping me)  06:55, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Rajinikanth 12.12.12: A Birthday Special
Hi, I hear the book contains more contemporary reviews of his films. Is it so? In that case, please photograph and send me some of them (I'd like Baashha in particular) as I am still unable to contact The Hindu office or reach the same place to obtain the book... Kailash29792 (talk) 14:53, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Not for all films, but for key ones like Apoorva Raagangal, Mullum Malarum, Aarilirunthu Arubathu Varai, Baashha, etc., &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  15:19, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Re:Mainpage archive
Hi, tomorrows a Monday and I'll be in school and Main Page DYK and content change fast according to GMT. So I think I won't be able to keep this request of yours, sorry.  Soham  07:49, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's okay, but can you archive the TFA section alone? &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 08:09, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * If it still there when I come back at 6 pm I'll do it fo' sure.  Soham  08:57, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Both hooks are at prep 1 now and will appear tomorrow at 13:30 IST. Hope you can do it :) &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 11:07, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * archived main page.  Soham  04:36, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Congrats on the TFA!♦ Dr. Blofeld  11:13, 20 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks to all three of you! &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 01:36, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * Thanks ! &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 01:36, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Precious
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Thank you, ardent writer who names people as "a source of inspiration", for quality articles for project Tamil civilization, such as Tiruchirappalli. for applying your "phenomenally meticulous" standards in reviews of featured lists and good articles, for fighting vandalism, trivia and being a wiki-fairy, for offering tea on meeting - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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 * Well, I'm getting more and more accolades for Trichy. So kind of you! &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 01:36, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

ANR
Thanks for uploading the image. I feel we should have a historical B/W image to depict his legacy. What say? I found this decent ones   Cheers,   ƬheStrike  Σagle  sorties  11:33, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * We normally use recent free-images for infobox. In the case of ANR there is a possibility of a free image of him as he had been acting since 1941. However, I don't think it will be free of copy-right outside India. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 12:38, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Kamal GAR
I did my biggest mistake of opening a GA reassessment of Kamal Haasan, which seemingly no-one responded to. As a result, I have decided to close it. By taking a quick look at the article, can u suggest me a few changes I can do to make sure that the article maintains its GA status? Kailash29792 (talk) 06:08, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * IMO, the article is not GA-worthy. It has been degraded a lot since it was last promoted. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 12:41, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Then we can just delist it straightaway. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:03, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * You can't do that since you initiated a "community reassessment". Also there is no consensus, as hardly any discussion took place. It will be closed by someone. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 13:47, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Maalavika image
I talked to Maalavika Manoj and she even gave permission to use the image of her's that I uploaded (well, she actually mailed Commons). But why is the tag on the image still there? Kailash29792 (talk) 15:43, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK Review
Can you review this DYK - Template:Did you know nominations/Horn OK Please (song) for me please?  Soham  16:40, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

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Yes, I am uploading them all. In the meantime, can u pls give Mullum Malarum a final copy-edit? Kailash29792 (talk) 08:37, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look at it for sure and c/e &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 09:02, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I have uploaded all the images u asked, except for Vaanam Vasappadum, Sri Valli and Dakshayagnam (1938 film) as I could not find any posters/dvd covers. As for Keechaka Vadham, I don't know where I can find the poster for a long lost film (I doubt even if Theodore Baskaran, Film News Anandan etc. could have them). Kailash29792 (talk) 09:32, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for uploading them. I forgot to mention that for films released before 1 January 1954, images would be out of copy-right. So no need to go for Non-free posters for films such as Naalvar, Paradesi and the ones released before that. &mdash; Vensatry  (Ping) 11:47, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, the poster for Sri Valli has been uploaded. Hope the c/e on Mullum is going on well. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:39, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

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The Name is Rajini
I see you are making great improvements in Rajinikanth, presumably to make it a FA. U could also take some info from The Name is Rajinikanth by Gayathri Sreekanth. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:31, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The book has only snippet view with which we could do only a little and moreover, what I heard from others was that it had quite a few errors. However, Rajinikanth: The Definitive Biography by Naman Ramachandran is more informative but unfortunately I don't have the physical copy. &mdash; Vensatry  (Ping) 11:56, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * U can visit any bookshop and secretly capture some of the pages on camera (that's how I've been doing). Kailash29792 (talk) 12:11, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That's a great idea. &mdash; Vensatry  (Ping) 12:22, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ...Or join a library.  Soham  13:40, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

FLCs
Hi, I've responded to your concerns at the FLCs, please have a look at. Regards, —Zia Khan 13:29, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * you don't have to repeatedly ping me every time when I leave comments in FLC pages. I'll surely get back when I get time. It's a promise! &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 15:47, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

IPA script
I want to add an IPA script to Mullum Malarum, that is the GA reviewer Soham's request. Do u know how to? Bcos I cannot read, write or understand IPA scripts. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:05, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Kailash, Ven no need to.  Soham  16:19, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Improving Rajinikanth
The current infobox image of Rajinikanth appears badly taken (looks out of focus and has glare) and is of very low resolution (a mere 200px, somewhere over 400 would be better). Is there any other recent image of him with high res and quality? Also, there are two dead links. I think you know of replacements for them. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:40, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * There are no better alternate images of him found in commons. If you have a free image, you're welcome to add it. Dead links aren't a problem as still a lot of work has to go into the article. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 08:48, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, I had earlier used that 1989 photo of him, because there is always a time when stars have a best recognised image (like Michael Jackson was at his peak in the late 1980's and his article - a FA, uses a 1988 photo of him in the infobox). As for the dead links, I have fixed them. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:15, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I suggest not to add images that are very old. I don't know why you're so obsessed with the image, given it's ownership claim being not so clear. "Best recognised images" are a little subjective. If the MJ article uses a two-decade old image, it doesn't mean we should get carried away by that idea. As I said earlier, Rajini's looks have changed considerably over the past 25 years. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so we shouldn't mislead the readers. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 09:24, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Sarath Babu's name
I am not sure if "Babu" is his surname or his father's name. Do you know? Bcos Mullum Malarum mentions him as Babu ('s edit, I don't think he knows the concept we Southies follow). Also, is there a better way to write this - "Rajinikanth was deeply hurt, and vowed to play the role with as much zest as possible. He put his heart and soul into the character Kali" - ? Kailash29792 (talk) 06:31, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Have you come across Mohan Babu, a Telugu like Sarath Babu. It's inappropriate to call them Babu. Coming to the sentence, it looks like a POV, better to remove it. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 09:31, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks and so kind of you &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 17:24, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank u for the special barnstar. As for my next GA, I'd prefer Kalidas (the first Tamil talkie). Either u can find me more sources to add to the article, or trying expanding Nayakan (another intended GA) with the news articles by Kamal, while I expand it with book sources. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:49, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Romantic drama
I don't know which film u mean: Mouna Ragam or Mullum Malarum. Both do look like romantic drama films. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:03, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about Mullum Malarum. Please read the notice on my talk page and post accordingly. Conversations shouldn't be hanging like this. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 07:07, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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