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Toluca Lake
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Hope that helps a bit :-) Bearcat (talk) 08:24, 5 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, thank you! As amazing as Wikipedia is, I still have trouble finding instructions in one place. WikiBob47 (talk) 15:41, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Your question about Category:People from Toluca Lake, Los Angeles
Hi Bob, Categories work differently from normal article pages. To populate the category you need to edit each article for the people in that category. Near the end of each article you should (hopefully) see a set of lines that look something like



You need to add to this set. If you do this and then look at the category again you should see that persons name added in there. I would add a word of caution though. Personally I would only add people who had some long-standing connection with the place - just living there for a couple of years doesn't, in my view, mean that you are 'from' a particular town. I hope this helps.

PS : Your original list is still available in the category's page history here Boissière (talk) 20:55, 27 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much! WikiBob47 (talk) 00:42, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


 * A
 * Dana Andrews
 * Richard Arlen, actor, first "unofficial Mayor" of Toluca Lake
 * Mary Astor
 * Ford Austin, independent film icon, President of The Hollywood Appreciation Society
 * Gene Autry
 * Frankie Avalon
 * Zooey Austin,
 * B
 * George Barris (auto customizer)
 * John Beal, composer
 * Ken Berry
 * Ann Blyth
 * Jimmy Brown
 * Brooke Burns, actress
 * C
 * Joe Campanella
 * Steve Carell, actor
 * Jack Carson
 * Angela Cartwright
 * Sarah Calvert actress and singer
 * Bing Crosby
 * Billy Ray Cyrus country singer and father of Miley Cyrus
 * Miley Cyrus, actress and singer
 * D
 * Bobby Darin
 * John Davidson
 * Doris Day
 * Lisa Day
 * Sandra Dee
 * Hilary Duff, actress and singer
 * F
 * Fabian
 * Peter Facinelli actor
 * W.C. Fields
 * Kirk Fogg, actor and game show host
 * Tennessee Ernie Ford
 * Red Foxx
 * Robert Fuller
 * G
 * Andy García, actor
 * James Garner
 * Jennie Garth actress
 * Selena Gomez actress and singer
 * Andy Griffith
 * H
 * Goldie Hawn
 * Neal Hefti
 * Paul Henning and his daughter Linda
 * Jennifer Love Hewitt, actress
 * William Holden
 * Bob Hope, actor
 * Ron Howard and his brother Clint
 * J
 * David Janssen
 * Jonas Brothers, actors and singers
 * Jackie Calaizis
 * K
 * Ruby Keeler
 * Wayne Knight, actor
 * Swoosie Kurtz
 * L
 * Dorothy Lamour
 * George Lopez, actor
 * Demi Lovato, actress and singer (former resident)
 * M
 * Garry Marshall
 * Billy Martin
 * Eric McCormack, actor
 * Frank McHugh
 * Dudley Moore
 * Wayne Morris
 * Audie Murphy
 * N
 * Jim Nabors
 * John James Nazarian
 * Ozzie & Harriet Nelson and their sons David and Ricky
 * Wendell Niles, Sr.
 * O
 * Donny and Marie Osmond
 * Patton Oswalt actor and stand-up comedian
 * P
 * George Patterson (The Wellingtons (folk group)‎
 * Luis Rodolfo Pena
 * Roger Perry
 * Zazu Pitts
 * Mala Powers
 * Jason Priestley, actor
 * Denver Pyle
 * R
 * Tex Ritter and his son John
 * S
 * Juliana Sedgers
 * Frank Sinatra
 * Keely Smith
 * Craig Strong
 * Tara Strong, actress, voice-over actress, comedian and singer
 * T
 * Alan Thicke
 * Ashley Tisdale, actress and singer
 * V
 * Rudy Vallée
 * W
 * Denzel Washington
 * Henry Winkler
 * Jonathan Winters
 * Jo Anne Worley

Without reliable sources for each and every one of these, there are meaningful BLP worries too, even if there were a consensus for such a category. Gwen Gale (talk) 18:39, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Toluca Lake edits
Perhaps the most effective way to make the connection to this celebrity "enclave" is to assist in the development of the parent article. I had been concerned that the addition of Toluca Lake, Los Angeles to the Amelia Earhart article was not notable, but on further research, there was a legitimate connection to the aviatrix. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 20:12, 23 September 2011 (UTC).
 * Thanks for the suggestion. That's where it was before. The challenge is that the names of famous residents were incorporated into the article, albeit in list format similar to the above, with references. Creating a long paragraph seems unwieldy. What do you suggest? WikiBob47 (talk) 20:36, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Bob, if I can be informal, I totally appreciate your being whacked back-and-forth by various editors, as you so clearly described in the Talk:Amelia Earhart talk page. That's what you get when you allow the great unwashed to have the temerity to edit an encyclopedia?! Seriously, it is a case ot the "too many cooks" syndrome that is all too evident in this wikywackywonderland. Let's keep talking. FWiW, the list with suitable references may have overwhelmed the original article, somewhat in the area of stretching the WP:Weight of a particular section. My suggestion? create a daughter article from the parent article and link it together. Bzuk (talk) 20:46, 23 September 2011 (UTC).
 * Thanks! I now am being challenged that IMDb is not a reliable source for information about people in the entertainment business, even though it's the most accepted resource in Hollywood, and I've even had an editor say the NYTimes and LATimes are not reliable sources, so I get the challenge of working with a huge number of editors. I'll consider a daughter page, and I might also try to incorporate the major names into a section following history that's about contemporary times. Much appreciated.WikiBob47 (talk) 20:59, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for not getting back to you on some of the points above. IMDb has been challenged before because it is essentially a fan-site, and does not have independent editorial or peer review. As an example, I have tried unsuccessfully for over a year to get a minor character's name spelled out properly despite having a note from a film script, a book reference and the spelling being correctly stated in all other sources, AMG, Turner, etc., and appearing that way on the video captions from the studio. The reason that any other legitimate print sources may be challenged is due to the lack of corroborating references or that the journalist involved may not be a subject expert. As to creating a "linked" or daughter article, I have done that at times when a very detailed section is being considered, such as an actor's filmology. If you choose to go that route, I can assist by providing some examples or helping in the editing process. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 15:43, 25 September 2011 (UTC).

Clearing alerts?
My article John Beal (composer) has had alerts all over it for some time regarding sourcing. Regarding the "resume" assertion, I followed the format of other composers. Can someone help me get these alerts removed, or suggest what I still need to do to make it a clean article? Thanks! WikiBob47 (talk) 19:40, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If the resume section has reliable sources, then you can simply remove the maintenance tags...I'll take a look. Hang on. Go   Phightins  !  00:54, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * All the sections have sources, so you may remove the tags with an edit summary saying that you've addressed the issues. Good work, Go   Phightins  !  00:56, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you!! WikiBob47 (talk) 04:39, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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John Beal has an medal award that I can't discover how to configure properly.

His AIR MEDAL should have one Bronze Star AND the Numeral 8. He has one Single Mission Air Medal for heroism and eight Air Medals for bravery. Please help me fix this correctly.

Thank you!

WikiBob47 (talk) 18:18, 25 May 2016 (UTC)


 * You can see the list of devices that can be added to a service ribbon at Template:Ribbon devices/device. A numeral "8" currently is not available; you'd need to create and upload the respective image. Huon (talk) 20:06, 25 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Apparently what I need shows in the edit function of that page, but is not visible. |Roman Numeral 8.gif

WikiBob47 (talk) 18:18, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Roman Numeral 8 Assistance welcomed.
 * Roman Numeral 8 Assistance welcomed.

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