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Hi - thanks for reaching out and politely poking me about my revert.

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So...regarding your edit to the already awful Gympie Pyramid article - please don't remove an existing category (in this case it was Pseudoarchaeology). By all means add something new if its relevant. Also, re Youtube links. The Gympie Ape clip will almost certainly be regarded as "Fringe" by most users here. If you are interested in pursuing this, the Fringe_theories/Noticeboard is here, and a good start.Nickm57 (talk) 10:28, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

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Please help me with... Hi Nick, I find the youtube video including the Gympie ape a welcoming collection of knowledge to the article. There will be always something in the fringe area if you have so much information in one video. I would like to try and see if someone, who sees the overall context of the video, will pick on it. They don't pick on the current article, filled with fringe. So, I have my text written, I will try it in the sandbox and see how to establish the reference links. Wikigetsme123 (talk) 04:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Closing help request as no question asked. Furthermore:
 * Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 05:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sincere apologies for delay in responding but I can see your question has been answered. I will try to keep up with changes but am now often busy on things other than WP. Nickm57 (talk) 10:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Wikigetsme123. I wonder if might have a look too, I am an irregular user here now. Also I didnt know you had written anything until I plotted my way to your sandbox, which Im reluctant to edit. And I cant remember if thats good form to edit someone elses sandbox.
 * I like the fact you have started with reference to the local indigenous people. Part of the problem remains that there is not much in the way of sources, but I think your approach of balancing the competing claims is better. However, Im really uncertain about the use of some more extravagant claims - which cant be verified anywhere else. You mentioned newspaper files when we corresponded previously. Can you access these? Regards Nickm57 (talk) 08:37, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I like the fact you have started with reference to the local indigenous people. Part of the problem remains that there is not much in the way of sources, but I think your approach of balancing the competing claims is better. However, Im really uncertain about the use of some more extravagant claims - which cant be verified anywhere else. You mentioned newspaper files when we corresponded previously. Can you access these? Regards Nickm57 (talk) 08:37, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Nick, thanks for the feedback. You say its not a good form to edit in someones sandbox, shall I upload instead and we see from there? Yes you are right in regards to the claims of Indigenous people. Its only a claim as I write, but whats documented is that the claim is old and has been through the courts. I am not on anybodies side here, I just find that this article in this time needs to be objective and informative, as many people look for the info and find only that whats there. Which are so more extravagant claims? I deleted the last paragraph 'conclusion' as it could appear like a personal opinion, guess that's less allowed on Wiki. Newspaper articles, yes I spent 3 hours in the Gympie library reading and scanning the 4 collections of articles. I am in contact with other persons but could not get a verified photo or drawing. I would like to see that article up there and let others come up with suggestions if they have any. Lets upload it in an ok format, adding more objective info to Wiki. Wikigetsme123 (talk) 03:17, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Cheers, Chris

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I've been meaning to get back to you. The other editors are basically experienced editors, even if one sometimes leaves not useful edit summaries. We don't use Wikipedia as a source. I don't think you've looked at the talk page since I added a lot of text to some official sources which have good information. Doug Weller talk 13:40, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Doug, just noticed, wrote that at you talk page. Guess still getting used to all that.

The design/ shape of the wall is polygonal. I mentioned the wall because its a strong part of the 'pyramids' history. I walked around it, made photos. Its unexplained and should have its space I find, but I see your point, its weird stuff. Its easy to see that the bricks were reused because they not all interlock as obviously initial intended. But at the entrance corners they interlock three dimensional perfectly. Its as weird as the Ape statue or the other artifacts that were found. There is this guy walking around it on youtube 'Pyramid Polygonal Wall Gympie Queensland'

Neither a YouTube video or your experience meet our criteria for sourcing
See WP:Verify and WP:RS. We don't use our own articles or personal experience, see WP:NOR. Have you read the talk page yet? And especially my links, which include Elaine Brown's report. 19:52, 23 March 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug Weller (talk • contribs)

Hi, yes I read it all Doug. I sent you the youtube link just so you can see what I saw as being polygonal shaped. Its the govs experience, too, as the wall is described as polygonal in their survey. I understand wiki links are not used, apologize for that link. Wiki links are used before and didn't give any problem (the Kabi Kabi link).

This Wiki link about megalithic wall designs could show you the unique construction that makes it a polygonal wall, and as we can call a sandstone ridge with terracing a 'pyramid' or a shaped stone an 'ape' why can't we call that wall by its common name. Its part of the 'pyramids history since the 30', 'shaped' stones, not retaining wall stones, which could mislead in that context. You can see, the wall is how I got to the whole project, following 'megalithic sites' for years now. No other interest or side, just preservation of 'possibly' very old sites we don't know enough about, yet.

Even as my English is not the best, I am an analytical thinking engineer and have put some thought into the text, its not coming out of nowhere, there is some sense behind it. I read everything and saw what there is to see, compared to the editors, who base their actions on what they find in the wheeler account or where else. So I am a bit disappointed that there was zero interest in that previous article and now 3-4 editors do their thing like locusts do, not coordinated (like not valuing/ respecting your initial edit), but just picking things apart until it doesn't make sense anymore. Another example of edit I can't follow is moving the gov 'no prove of any heritage significance' into the paragraph 'further finds'. Who has read about the background knows that mentioned 3 finds were done 'in the area', the ape across the street, thou. The govs survey covered only the pyramids site, so it doesn't include the 3 finds, but listed with them, it wrongly looks like it. I think the govs account belongs into the 'history' paragraph, because they did a survey as Elaine Brown or the Greens, or Wheeler did, and concluded there is or is no history on site. They should line up with the other assumptions, even thou its the gov. And who read their survey can wonder why no grinding grooves are mentioned, but every wooden post, and why the polygonal wall 9by the name!) is brought 'or left' with rough retaining walls in Bundaberg. It makes sense and its based on facts, that I mentioned that.

Just one question aside. Wiki doesn't accept first hand information but allow what is published by an editor, who takes over the risk of getting sued, that's why Elaine Brown and the Greens are unacceptable? understandable that way So I hope we can name the wall polyonal, as even the gov did name it in their survey, that we can keep the govs account in the history paragraph, as their findings don't include the finds. No need to mention other megalithic walls, its just where I come from and got to it). Thanks

April 2021
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Kabi. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Thank you John. I asked in the teahouse what I could do against violation of a page and redirecting of it anddid not receive an answer. I am in contact with the Kabi page author. On the Gubbi Gubbi Talk page we discuss and bring good information forward that supports that view that this Kabi page should be online. The violation comes from other editors who are likely Gubbi Gubbi people. No one who deleted the text and redirected has discussed it before hand. Deleting a page and redirecting it is a violation, isn't it? That I am the only one trying to reestablish the page against several potential people of the Gubbi Gubbi tribe doesn't make me a criminal. The author of the page is deeply disenchanted that her page gets vandalized for years now. I doubt you had the time to read yourself into it. You just noticed my actions and got active, sent me a warning... why? Because the Kabi page is constantly violated the discusion about it arose now on the Gabbi Gabbi Talk page. Have you had a look? no? Wikigetsme123 (talk) 07:53, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

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