User talk:Zaxander

My name is Dr Zachar Alexander Lskewicz and I'm an academic and a creative artist with particular interest in the relationship between music and movement, Russian experimental poetry of the cubo-futurist era, Balinese and Javanese gamelan music and other more diverse topics. Feel free to leave reactions to any articles I may have included on this site or references to my published or unpublished work which can be found at internet libraries and on the net, particularly my website http://www.nachtschimmen.eu You are also welcome to contact me personally with enquiries relating to my work via my professional email address zachar@nachtschimmen.eu. Zaxander (talk) 18:56, 27 September 2013 (UTC)zaxander

Minipiano
I've seen your message, but I'm just about to leave for a couple of days away. I'll reply by Tuesday  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:11, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

OK, I'm back. For your account to be confirmed so that you can upload images, it's an automatic procedure once you've made enough edits (not sure how many, but it's not a huge number. Alternatively, see if you can upload to Commons which is preferred anyway.

I've tidied up your draft a bit.
 * You don't need a title for your first section, nor do you need a section called "Introduction", the lead is to summarise the article.
 * The table of contents and numbering will generate automatically once you have three sections
 * Section heading go between pairs of ==. If you want subheadings just use pairs of === or ====
 * You have formatted the book refs suitably, but they need to go in the text next to what they are supporting (immediately after punctuation)
 * For web refs, use [url description] rather than a bare url

The reason that your prose ran into trouble is that it's written in a literary rather than encyclopaedic style. For example, take this paragraph
 * It is easy to get the impression that the ‘minipiano’ is the name for a smaller instrument than a normal upright or grand piano....&mdash;your opinion, better to make a statement of fact "Despite its name..."
 * Or perhaps to refer to playable collector’s items that resemble music boxes.&mdash; as above
 *  They’ve even been confused with miniature pianos designed for children as toys, which is logical considering it is very possible some of these toys have similar names.&mdash;who  has confused them? It's your opinion that it's logical to confuse them.
 * In actual fact, the ‘Minipiano’ was patented in 1934 by the Eavestaff Piano Company and is an instrument which differs in many ways from an upright piano that it can be considered to belong to an entirely different stem on the family tree of keyboard instruments. &mdash;that's fine. A reference would be good, but you are actually now writing facts
 * The intention of this article is to clear up some of the ambiguities surrounding the minipiano, and to both confirm and dispel some of the common myths which do exist. .. &mdash; Your motivation is not encyclopaedic material, and bear in mind that anyone can edit this article (and it will be edited by others, if only for formatting or linking
 * you need to add wikilinks to other articles, I've added a couple

Have a look at the piano article

I hope this helps

 Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  16:37, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Self-referencing
That's a tricky one. There is a general guideline No original research. However, editors who have published papers in peer-reviewed journals can show that they have an accepted level of expertise. One of our editors writing Featured Articles about Banksias sometimes references his own papers, but he is a leading member of the Australian Banksia Society. I would guess from your CV that you could use your articles as sources, within reason. I'm not so sure about using them as a source for opinions, as you seem to be suggesting, rather than just factual material. If there is scope for differing views, you should take care to give a balanced view  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:29, 3 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I think I've managed to short-circuit autoconfirmation, and confirm you manually, see if you can upload files now  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:35, 3 October 2013 (UTC)


 * It doesn't look as if you have addressed the points above yet (in-line references, wikilinks, change of style). Until that's done, best to keep it in the sandbox. The format for adding your images is thumb|description By default, they will go to the right of the page, add a left or center parameter if needed elsewhere  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:48, 5 October 2013 (UTC)


 * OK, fine. The format for adding images is in my previous message above  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:13, 7 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I think you may have misread. changed group membership for User:Zaxander from confirmed user to (none) (user is now autoconfirmed) seems to be saying that my manual confirmation has been unticked because you are now automatically confirmed by the Wikipedia software anyway.  Jimfbleak  -  talk to me?  06:26, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Eavestaff's 'Royal' Minipiano.jpg
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File permission problem with File:Art-Deco inspired Minipiano Pedals.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Art-Deco inspired Minipiano Pedals.jpg, which you've attributed to http://www.nachtschimmen.eu/zachar/writer/1301-MIP.htm. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file has agreed to release it under the given license.

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File permission problem with File:MINIPIANO from behind allowing access to the wires.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:MINIPIANO from behind allowing access to the wires.jpg, which you've attributed to http://www.nachtschimmen.eu/zachar/writer/1301-MIP.htm. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file has agreed to release it under the given license.

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I've seen your note, I'm out all day today, probably look tomorrow. The simplest was to deal with the copyright issue above is to change the copyright notice on your webpage to "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License" or "public domain", it's a lot easier than the email procedure, but that up to you. If you do change the page licence, remember to say you have done so on the commons page too.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:53, 10 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I think the problem is that for the photos on your personal website, the website doesn't have an explicit PD or CC-BY-SA 3.0 License. Although we know they are your images, there is a conflict between the copyright note there and the licence you are claiming here. You either need to change the licence on your own website, or use pictures not previously published.


 * Even if you hadn't linked, the same problem would have arisen, since there are bots that search for previously published images on the web. As you can imagine, editors often try to upload images which they really don't have the right to use. <b style="font-family:chiller; color:red;"> Jimfbleak - </b> talk to me?  05:42, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Comments on text
Structure much better, here are some comments/suggestions
 * only the first occurrence of minipiano should be bolded
 * headings follow normal capitalisation, not capped except first word/proper names
 * If you do web refs as [url description], it's more informative than a bare url
 * only link to another article, eg piano, once
 * You could link many more articles, eg dulcimer, clavichord, sounding board
 * The article still has quite a number of unreferenced statements that read like personal opinions rather than verifiable facts. Just one example: It is therefore important to view the historical context surrounding the minipiano to understand the reasons it is viewed today with such disdain. &mdash; who says it's important. Why is it important? Who says it's treated with disdain? You either need to to provide references for value judgements, or not make them. The article would benefit from checking whether each time you use popular, important remarkable or similar subjective terms, you can justify that as a provable objective statement.

The article is looking well on the way, it's really just the style, essay rather than encyclopaedia, that needs some work. Even in the biological articles I write, I sometimes get criticised for using non-neutral language, and the temptations are less there. <b style="font-family:chiller; color:red;"> Jimfbleak - </b> talk to me?  06:12, 11 October 2013 (UTC)


 * You seem to have cracked the plurals. You can always modify the link by adding outside the brackets, like clavichords reads as clavichords or piping, sounding board comes out as sounding board. Check where your link is going to: your link on my page for dulcimer goes to a disambiguation page. A bot will pick that up eventually, but it's annoying to be corrected by a machine. The point I was making is that you need to be clear, through your referencing, that opinions are widely held, not just your own views.  Incidentally, I don't know if you ever click on your "Preferences" tab, but you might find some useful additions under the editing or gadgets sections. <b style="font-family:chiller; color:red;"> Jimfbleak  - </b> talk to me?  05:46, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Minipiano (October 12)
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Dear Zach Vega ,

I'd really appreciate any advice you have as to how I can improve the referencing that resulted in my article (for the second time) being rejected. Understand please that there are very few references related to this subject which is why I decided to write the article; and although learning the reference system was part of the first rejection, the actual references themselves were considered okay. The problems were with the writing style which I worked very hard to make as objective as possible. The two 'verifiable' reference works I could make use of include the obvious one on Art-Deco, but also the well-known volume on music instruments which I made reference to precisely because it lacks reference to the minipiano, whereas all other types of piano and variations upon them are included. The fact is true that the minipiano exists and it was patented in 1934; I have the instrument, I took it apart and I photographed these aspects to 'verify' the existence of the instrument, show a context for the arguments about its patent which are contradicted in a few of the articles I was able to find that make reference to Eavestaff Ltd. and to ensure there were no more copyright issues regarding illustrations of the minipiano; all of this material is original and as verifiable as one can believe that the instrument I have resembles all the instruments for sale or mentioned as Eavestaff's 'Pianette' minipiano. I'm an academic and have the credentials to describe a keyboard instrument and how it works; so I can only assume it is towards the historical information that the referencing is intended? This is very frustrating as there exists so little material either on the company Eavestaff Limited or the minipiano. Would the article be acceptable if certain parts were not included? As I don't see how I can provide more verification if there doesn't exist any. Thanks in any case for the time you took to look at my article. I hope that this problem will be solvable as I've spent an a great deal of time, much more than I'd ever expected I'd have to, trying to improve the article and get the whole issue of copyright sorted.

Kind regards,

Dr Zachar Laskewicz http://www.nachtschimmen.eu

P.S. I've thoroughly reread the article and rewritten large chunks of it mostly in relation to the mechanics of the instrument to make sure there are no ambiguities and references to a 'you' as if the reader has a minipiano and is making his or her own adjustments. In rereading the parts with referencing in mind, I've added about five references. Alas, to no new sources as there don't appear to be any; but now at least I hope that all references I do make to facts about the instrument do now have a reference source. Any other statements can unfortunately only be considered verifiable because I am a professional musician, composer & academic, I have one of the instruments and that I possess the skills to comment upon objective facts about the instruments which I back up with photos I have taken myself.

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Have you posted the comments above on his talk page? He may not be watching here. You don't have to go through AfC, you can post the article directly at Minipiano and see what happens. I don't think it's likely that it will be speedy deleted (and I can retrieve the text anyway), might just pick up some improvement-type tags <b style="font-family:chiller; color:red;"> Jimfbleak - </b> talk to me?  05:52, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

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References etc
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Your references need tidying <b style="font-family:chiller; color:red;"> Jimfbleak - </b> talk to me?  06:15, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) You have some references repeated more than once. Format one of them using ref name= instead of ref= like this . Next time you use that ref, just put
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 * 3) Have a look at River martin to see how the more descriptive refs show, and how the multiple refs display as abc of the same ref

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The Italian SkyWay scandal article - a comprehensive translation
PLEASE NOTE - this was performed with Google translate. It is in no way an official translation.

20 July 2018 SkyWay – the “flying tram” company which has never realized a project

MESSINA. The video presentation published last February on You Tube seems to come straight out of a novel by Asimov, with futuristic structures, tracks that fly over the city and wagons similar to spaceships that travel on the heads of the inhabitants reaching 500 km per hour. This is what the company "Sky Way" tells of itself on the web, which according to Mayor Cateno De Luca should realize the controversial "flying tram" that he has so much discussed in the electoral campaign, between teasing on social and satirical memes. In fact, the story of the Belarusian company conceived on the theories of the engineer and inventor Anatoly Yunitskiy is quite controversial, with hundreds of 3D renderings and science-related reconstructions published online but no concrete project. And above all, no actual wagons in circulation.

The only structure under construction, in fact, beyond the many negotiations flagged with various countries around the world, in which there is no news of any completed site, seems to be a sort of demonstration park in Belarus, called EcoTechnoPark. It is "a demonstration and certification center for the SkyWay - EcoTechnoPark" transport which, according to what is read on the company's website, should rise on a 36-hectare site in the city of Maryina Gorka.

For the rest nothing, apart from an endless series of computerized images with hyper-technological cars that dart on cities and countryside.

HOW TO MAKE SENSE OF THE COMPANIES. From what we can understand, there is a SkyWay that takes care of the actual projects, one of the "SkyWay Group of Companies.” Anatoly Yuniskiy is its president and it is based in the British Virgin Islands, which was considered in 2017 to be a "tax haven.” Here a great many companies with controversial histories exist to rake in capital for them.

In one of the many documents that SkyWay Capital makes available, you are informed that "the shares cannot be offered or sold in the United States," that "the shares have not been and will not be registered in Russia and are not intended for placement or public dissemination in Russia," and finally that it is not possible "that such materials or any copies thereof be exported or transferred to Australia, Canada or Japan.” SkyWay Capital has a London address named "First Skyway invest group ltd."

The situation becomes even more tangled with the entry of numerous acronyms, including Global Transport Investments Incorporated, "an international group that has successfully operated in the transport services sector since 1992. Today we incorporate 36 companies from 20 cities in 14 countries the world, providing work space to over 800 people," according to them. It is not the only company that refers to the new transport system. There is also SkyWay Invest Group, an educational investment project and trademark of Rail SkyWay System which is based in the British Virgin Islands (similar but not the same address as the “rsw-system”). "Investment experts will teach you how to save and multiply your capital, as well as show you how to choose the best tools for your portfolio. While creating the SkyWay Invest Group brand, we aimed to combine two projects: the educational investment project of Academy Private Investment and the Euroasian high-tech project SkyWay Systems Ltd.” From September 2011, at least 100,000 people from over 35 countries and 4 continents have completed our investment training courses," reads the website

Contacted by the newspaper The Economic Times, the deputy general manager of the company for commercial development Victor Baburin said that "SkyWay Technologies Co. (another company, this time based in Minsk, in Belarus) has been operating since 2015", categorically denying being associated to the many SkyWay companies that have dissolved in other continents, including the Euroasian Rail Skyway, but also the American Rail SkyWay System, the African Rail SkyWay System, the Australian and Oceanic Rail SkyWay System, "recorded in various parts of the world and then dissolved over the last two years ". THE CONTROVERSY WITH INDIA. Recently published in “The Economic Times” - the world’s second most popular newspaper behind the Wall Street Journal – was clarifications of the memorandum of understanding signed between SkyWay Technologies and the government of a state in Northern India (Himachal Pradesh) to introduce "the world's first open-air suspended transport system in Dharamsala".

The Indian newspaper questioned the adequacy of this means of transport and the company's credentials which has ended up "without operational projects all over the world".

"The company has not shared with the government any feasibility report of any study (a must in projects like this) on how the project will be carried out," reads the article, which reconstructs the recent history of SkyWay. "According to the SkyWay Technological website, the company will use a high-speed technology called 'string transport'. The company claims to be in talks with Australia and Turkey, in addition to India, but does not list any operational projects. Experts said that a previous prototype of the same technology was tested in Russia, but the project was abandoned after an assessment by the State Railways University in Moscow in 2008 found that the project was "not feasible and unsafe". The report states that string technology is full of "a large number of system defects and almost unrealistic because it does not provide a uniform path for traffic." In 2014 - continues the Indian newspaper - a skyway project was planned by a Belarusian company in Lithuania, but it was canceled after a few months due to suspected financial fraud. The Bank of Lithuania then warned investors of "unidentified people who invite Lithuanian residents to invest in new generation string transport by acquiring online shares of the limited liability company." An episode that Baburin himself called "anti-Russian hysteria" of the Lithuanian government.

"Although string technology has arrived in many countries in recent years, no ‘SkyWay’ project in the company's name has taken off," the Economist Times writes.

This does not seem to be the only controversy that the company has gone through. Already in 2007 and 2018, the specialists of the Moscow State University of Railway Engineering had given a negative assessment to the project for the construction of some of the pilot railway lines to be built in Russia, while in 2010 a dispute between Anatoly Yunitsky and its partners cancelled the planning of a test site in Australia.

SOME GOOD NEWS. On 26 May 2017, on the other hand, the Vilnius regional prosecutor's office decided to interrupt the preliminary investigation to reveal the signs of illegal financial activities in the work of the organizations created by Anatoly Yunitsky in Lithuania. The decision of the executive body acknowledged that during the investigation no evidence had been gathered confirming suspicions in unfair practices of the management of companies wishing to set up a demonstration and certification center for the transport of bows on the territory of Lithuania. All temporary restrictions applied to property rights on funds, securities and other assets on the accounts of these organizations have been removed.

The SkyWay design department has instead obtained the certificates confirming the conformity of the quality management system used in the company with the requirements of the international standard ISO 9001-2015, as well as the national standard of the Republic of Belarus - СТБ ISO 9001-2015. THE CONTROVERSIES ON THE CROWDFUNDING. But what is shown on the web by doing a search on the Sky Way? Little, very little. To appear on search engines, in fact, are only computer-generated drawings and a myriad of advertisements that ask people to invest in the company, looking for big profits.

According to the personal website of the founder Anatoly Yunitskiy, whose goal is to "save the planet", the large-scale capitalization of skyway transport dates back to 2014, using crowdfunding. "Very soon we will get the first profit, which will be a well-deserved reward for the efforts of those who have worked to create the technology and the confidence of those who have become its investors," says the inventor.

"Imagine being the owner of a company that holds 50% of the global transportation services market! And as an investor, you believed and invested money in this company at the start and earned hundreds of thousands of dollars when the company became public on the market. And for these events it took only 2 to 5 years !!! If years ago they had proposed to invest in Apple or Google and you had not done it, how would you feel now?" It's just one of hundreds of ads posted on the web inviting users to invest in SkyWay Capital, whose main task - reads on their site - "is to support and develop the SKYWAY project, to successfully bring the innovative transport system on the world market. That is why we have started an active and profitable cooperation with Global Transport Investments Inc., which is the direct owner of the SKYWAY string transport technology. This partnership will make it possible to highlight the implementation and general introduction of technology, far ahead of its time, at a qualitatively new level."

At the end of January 2018 CONSOB [The Italian Companies and Exchange Commision – a government authority – ed.] decided to suspend, for 10 working days, the precautionary measure of the advertising activity on the website https://superblu.wordpress.com relating to the public offering of shares promoted by Skyway Capital, and the website www.lucastefanelli.net, relating to the public offering of shares promoted by SkyWay Invest Group. After one month, in February 2018, following this suspension, CONSOB banned the public offering of shares and its advertising activity.

HISTORIC PRECEDENTS. It is not the first time that for the construction of infrastructure works we try to rely on foreign entrepreneurs or companies. This is the case, for example, of the Indian financier Mahesh Panchavaktra of the "Panchavaktra Holding." His intention about two years ago to invest large amounts of money at the airport of Milazzo, offering 300 million then one billion, was reported in all the newspapers. The lender responsible for the Indian project – was considered unreliable to keep his promises and ended up being cancelled by the Governor Rosario Crocetta at the time.

Instead, Arab financiers loaded with petrodollars are the investors that the then mayor of Santa Teresa Cateno De Luca contacted in 2014, flying even to Dubai (according to reports La Gazzetta Jonica), for the construction of the motorway junction in the Ionian municipality on the A18. In the intentions of the current first citizen of Messina, the work should have been ready in 2014. THE MESSINESE PROJECT. "Today was an important day because we had the opportunity to demonstrate to the city that our tram proposal is feasible and they have also explained the managers of a company that has created this type of high-tech tram and zero environmental impact . We have also shown that there are sources of funding, over € 800 million deriving from the Community planning for compatible urban transport ".

Words pronounced by the Mayor of Messina Cateno De Luca last July 6 during a press conference in Piazza Cairoli to present his idea of a suspended tram, in the presence of Antonio Lacava, Antonino La Vecchia and Barbaro Virgillito, respectively corporate manager and consultants for the SkyWay Invest Group.

"The Indian Government in March 2017 has signed an agreement with Skyway equal to 890 million dollars for the construction of lines throughout India," reads the press release of the event, which refers precisely to the case cited by The Economist Times. But what are the specifications in detail? It is an infrastructure that in just 15 minutes would connect the Annunziata to Tremestieri, with the possibility of integrating the route to Ganzirri. Overall, the route will be about 15 km and there will be 12 stops including 3 terminals. The hypothesized layout will have a height of about 7 meters, more or less coinciding with the third floor of a building. Instead, it is not specified where the flying tram will actually pass.

"Today the company that has produced suspended trams has come around, who contacted us after having read the controversy that arose following our announcement, demonstrating how the project already exists and has relatively low costs", explained the first citizen during an interview published on Facebook.

What figures are we talking about? € 120 million, according to De Luca, available from European funds without any cost for citizens, while the maintenance over a period of 25 years will be managed and guaranteed by SkyWay, which will take over an initial investment of about 25% of the cost total of the work. —Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 14:12, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Great work! Thanks for translating. Do you use Google Translate or do you know Italian/Russian? In original article there is a link in "while in 2010 a dispute between Anatoly Yunitsky and its partners cancelled the planning of a test site in Australia" and it links to rsw-systems.com site which we don't trust. Can we still use this information? I think that most 3rd party sources will eventually refer to Skyway information. In Australia there was at least 2 attempts to start construction. Above-mentioned was the first one when Yunitskiy's had conflict with his partner Dubatovka. Another one was cooperation with Rod Hook, former Head of the Department of planning, transport and infrastructure of South Australia. They planned to build road in Adelaide but the project was also cancelled. Some info about it can be found here: http://pressreader.com/australia/the-advertiser/20190223/281917364360578 https://www.fiveaa.com.au/shows/rowey-bicks/the-plan-to-bring-driverless-sky-trains-to-adelaide Dron007 (talk) 14:16, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * @Dron007 I studied Italian and Russian and my father was born in Minsk meaning I have a rudimentary understanding of the language. But it would take me a long time to translate an article if I didn't use Google translate and then correct the unsure passages with the original. And I have to confess that the Belarusian newsfeeds are much harder than the Italian and the Lithuanian ones. It was in this Italian reference that I found the information about the Australian negotiations (in addition there's a copy of a letter viewable on the SkyWay page with a company in Perth). It is obviously MUCH better to have a third-party reference and I'll check the ones you provide above and include them. It's necessary considering that I created a whole sub-heading for it in the 'unrealized projects'. Thank you for this. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 17:56, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * @Dron007 Although I can claim intimate knowledge of Italian and Russian, I can't claim any knowledge of Lithuanian. The intention of doing the translation was to back up facts that had already been claimed by other people. I thought it would be worthwhile publishing my translation so others would be able to fact-check the article. But I should make it very clear that my translations were only an approximation and not official translations. Worse still, experience has taught me that I'm a terrible translator. I worked for one month at a translation bureau from Dutch and French into English. I was terrible at it and I hated it so much I had to quit. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 18:08, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Translation of the SkyWay scandal article in Lithuanian
What follows is a rough translation with Google Translate of the original text in Lithuanian. It is therefore an approximation.

https://www.delfi.lt/verslas/verslas/lietuvos-bankas-oro-traukinius-zadancio-a-junickio-veikloje-sukciavimo-pozymiai.d?id=65880462

Bank of Lithuania: signs of fraud in the activities of A. Yunitskiy promising “air trains” By Šarūnas Černiauskas, www.DELFI.lt September 18 2014

The Supervisory Authority of the Bank of Lithuania has finished exploring what Anatoly Yunitskiy, the creator of the String Transport promising to invest in Šiauliai, is doing.

The Bank of Lithuania did not see signs of a pyramid scheme in the activities of A. Yunitskiy. The Prosecutor General's Office, however, suspects him of other crimes - fraud and unlawful commercial activity.

This is confirmed by Vaidas Cibas, Head of the Regulated Market Supervision Division of the Bank of Lithuania Supervision Authority.

"Today we sent a letter to the prosecutor's office, which we set out all the circumstances we have identified so far. And please clarify whether those persons who publicly offer securities do not commit a criminal offense for which criminal liability is provided for in Articles 182 and 202 of the Criminal Code. Also in other articles, if the prosecutor's office set them up,” said Cibas.

Yunitskiy has established four companies in London with similar names: Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd., American Rail Skyway Systems Ltd., African Rail Skyway Systems Ltd. and Australian & Oceanic Rail Skyway Systems Ltd. According to Cibas, this suggests that analogous activities can be practiced in other countries as well. The Bank of Lithuania will take measures to prevent this. “There will be reports on the Internet, on our website, in Lithuanian and English, about this public offering. One more thing we will do is to disseminate information through an international organization that unites the supervisory authorities so that it is known in all countries that this company is engaged in illegal activities, ”said Cibas. According to him, in the financial pyramid there is no smell - just like fraud.

"The essential feature of the financial pyramid is that people are involved and those involved must bring new people. We didn't see this. We see that the shares of a company registered in the United Kingdom are offered. If there was a prospectus, the shares of that company could be offered in Lithuania. But we have not approved the prospectus for this company, and other European Union countries have not approved this prospectus. Therefore, the shares of Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd. in Lithuania cannot be publicly distributed, ”the interlocutor explained. A. Yunitskiy's representatives are in denial “At the beginning of August, the Internet was actively invited to invest in the shares of Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Lt. Since this was done, names were used both by these companies and registered in Lithuania by Rail Skyway Systems Ltd., we contacted all the contacts that were available, with requests to clarify and terminate, in our opinion, illegal activities. Because the shares can only be distributed with a prospectus, ” Cibas continued. According to him, "some kind of effect was", but it mostly appeared in a comic scenario - representatives of A. Yunitskiy's businesses denied any links with the distribution of shares and even with "Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd.", although both this and the Lithuanian company shareholder is A. Yunitskiy. "The public offering of the alleged shares - DELFI) has changed, slightly narrowed, but not to the end. And now you can find web pages that offer to buy shares in a UK registered company. August 26 we were meeting with representatives of Lithuanian private limited company. (…) They assured us that no one has contributed to the offer. In the end, after a while, we received a written response from them, the essence of which is to replicate what we learned at the meeting: that a private limited company is in no way related to individuals who offer to acquire publicly-owned UK-listed companies to link with those individuals. They do not have shares in the company, and have no links with Eurasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd., "said Cibas. According to him, after this letter, the patience of the Bank of Lithuania was exhausted. "We no longer have any sense of more trouble," said the interlocutor. Yunitskiy' history began with the decision of the Šiauliai Council to sign a contract with a Russian engineer-owned company, Rail Skyway Systems Ltd., registered in Lithuania. For the creation of the "String Transport" revolution, Siauliai government created greenhouse conditions - 30 hectares of land under the NATO aviation base, tax exemption (including land lease), etc. Yunitckiy's business has promised to invest nearly $ 900 million. Lt. However, a journalistic survey conducted by DELFI showed that Yunitskiy is running suspicious financial schemes. Promising a fabulous profit and tens of billions of euros, it is worthy of "strolling" projects between different countries or even continents, his businesses distributing "shares", which are basically colored bills without value - at least in the analysis of A. Yunitskiy's business, DELFI said " Nerijus Mačiulis, economist at Swedbank. Mačiulis' insights were confirmed by the data analysis performed by DELFI. Although A. Yunitskiy's businesses declare that they will distribute shares that will later be distributed on the stock exchange with cosmic profits, all A. Yunitskiy’s companies in Lithuania and Great Britain have only two shareholders. And no one so tempted by a small investor.

Yunitskiy attracts investors with companies registered in London. They allegedly dispose of cosmic authorized capital. Four last year, October 23, London-based companies "Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd.", American Rail Skyway Systems Ltd., African Rail Skyway Systems Ltd. registered at a total of about $ 235.16 billion. pound capital. 10 percent each company owns shares in A. Yunitskiy, 90 percent. - Heavily traced offshore company Global Transport Investments Inc. 10 percent In the four "Sky Train" companies, Yunitskiy should be guaranteed the ninth place in the Forbes World Billionaire list. Of course, he is not there. A. Yunitskiy himself has admitted that he is not billions of billions attributed to him by his own companies in London. At the same time, the entrepreneur stated that this was not a matter for journalists, and that his opinion was not an indicator. In turn, the mayor of Šiauliai Justinas Sartauskas admits he has no interest in signing the contract. He also swears by swearing nothing wrong with A. Junicki's visions. Contrary to special services, Prime Minister Algirdas Butkevičius said on Wednesday that he had received a law enforcement certificate about A. Yunitskiy, on the basis of which Šiauliai authorities must terminate the contract with Rail Skyway Systems Ltd. Dalia Grybauskaitė, after President Siauliai's excitement, was also worried - she made amendments to the law that would oblige her to scrutinize any investors wishing to settle near objects of strategic importance
 * –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 22:51, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

A suggestion
I understand that you are concerned about Skyway, but please be careful of too many reverts. Any change which undoes another editor's changes is a revert and there is a rule that more than 3 reverts cannot be done in a day. It leads to an automatic block. I am trying to return the article to a factual position by comparing with the earlier versions. Also The companies encourage risky investment in infrastructure projects;[4] they make lofty claims about the potential of a technology they call 'SkyWay', this is not considered factual and WP:NPOV. We are supposed to describe in a neutral tone.--DreamLinker (talk) 15:43, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * @User:DreamLinker Thanks for your advice and again for returning the article to how it was. "The companies encourage investment' part of the sentence was agreed upon with another user to change "the company promotes and encourages the sale of shares" (this discussion is viewable in the talk page). I'd appreciate your advice on how to improve the second half of the sentence. Although I did write it, I did base it on exactly what the verifiable sources state. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 15:58, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * @User:DreamLinker We agreed upon "The companies encourage risky investment in unclear projects" because this is what is claimed in the verifiable Lithaunian article. One of the new possibly bad faith users changed it to 'infrastructure' projects without consulting anyone else. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 16:09, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * For notification please use . That will automatically convert it to @DreamLinker. About "The companies encourage risky investment in unclear projects", I am generally not inclined to add stuff like this unless multiple sources say it. I think the previous article was much better. The fist paragraph in this version is very awkward to read. I will look at it later once again when I have time and when the disruption has ceased.--DreamLinker (talk) 16:51, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I think it was much better before too. But you have to go back quite far before they started making some really problematic changes. Your recent reversion only reduced about half of the recent changes. Also I thinks it's misleading to not include the name of Yunitskiy in the opening sentence and I've included argumentation of this on the talk page.
 * Thanks again for your help and advice.

Translation of the article on SkyWay activities in Slovenia
https://siol.net/digisvet/novice/kdo-so-rusi-ki-lovke-stegujejo-po-slovenskem-denarju-468937 Who are these Russians hunting for Slovenian money? 31 May 2018 SUMMARY:
 * A ‘SkyWay’ meeting for potential investors was held in December 2017 at ‘Hotel Center’ in Novo Mesto, Slovenia. The first event had already been held in September of the same year.
 * SkyWay is a cable transport system designed by Anatoly Yunitskiy in the eighties. Yunitskiy, who is the primary representative today of the SkyWay Group, is making lofty claims about this technology.
 * Although Yunitskiy still produces prototypes of his technology, no pilot projects have been realised. A negative assessment was made of this technology in 2008 (MSUoRE) because it was considered too dangerous for passengers. In 2016 the Russian Ministry of Transport decided it was innovative but only in theory.
 * SkyWay Capital – the primary fund raiser of SkyWay projects – operates within the SkyWay Group; it has been seeking potential investors all over the world.
 * A polluted future and the end of all life on earth can be avoided by investing in SkyWay infrastructure according to SkyWay Capital. All they need is your money. They promise you high returns on any money you may spend on shares or options.
 * Although it’s hard to tell because of the different companies in the SkyWay Group, it seems that the First Skyway Invest Group Ltd. Registered in London is selling these shares.
 * The potential success of this company is dependent on the success of the technology; when it succeeds the price of its shares will increase. Seeing that there are still only prototypes in Belarusian fields, this seems unlikely.
 * SkyWay Capital disclaims any liability and offers no guarantee on returns to investors; furthermore it states that its shares are not valid in Russia or Australia.

Who are these Russians hunting for Slovenian money? (31 May 2018) [photo of Kudryashov & Yunitskiy] By Matic Tomšič At the end of 2017, the Russian SkyWay Capital project began to recapture the fast earnings of the eager Slovenes. As a motivation for the investment, which can be rewarded even a thousand times, the project leader is represented by the futuristic SkyWay, which in their words will eventually replace all forms of land transport. We investigated what and who is behind the project, and what weight promises of astronomical returns actually have. What is SkyWay?

SkyWay, a system of passenger and cargo capsules traveling on a cableway, was designed by the Belarusian engineer Anatoly Yunitskiy in the 80s of the last century (on the top photo left below).

Emissions of gases and particles that pollute the atmosphere are practically nil with such a means of transport, and this would be particularly practical, as well as traveling in the urban landscape and in the countryside. Capsules could reach speeds of up to 500 kilometers per hour, says Yunitskiy, who is today the representative of the SkyWay Group. SkyWay Group has already developed several pilot projects of the cableway, but they have not yet come to the fore further. One in 2008 was evaluated by the Moscow University of Railway Engineering as negative because it was supposed to be too dangerous for passengers. In 2016, the special committee of the Russian Ministry of Transport SkyWay was designated as an innovative idea, but only in theory.

Yunitskiy in the SkyWay Group still produces prototypes of travel and cargo capsules. Last year, one managed to reach a speed of 102 kilometers per hour. More progress in the development of SkyWay will be allegedly presented at the EcoFest event, which will take place in Belarus on August 4th.

What is SkyWay Capital and what are they promising to Slovenian investors?

SkyWay Capital operates under SkyWay Group; their main task is to raise funds for the further development of the cableway. SkyWay Capital is the one who has been searching for years for people to invest their money all over Europe and elsewhere in the world. In September last year, the first event was also organized in Slovenia. [Illustration comparing different forms of technology to various SkyWay vehicles] Accompanying text: SkyWay is compared with alternatives such as magnetic trains and Hyperloop, proposed by inventor and vendor Elon Musk, and of course lists numerous benefits of SkyWay in comparison to these technologies. A business opportunity, an investment in SkyWay Capital, is also argued with examples of how Apple, Google, and Oculus succeeded.]

SkyWay Capital on its website very seriously warns that an increased number of vehicles on the roads will soon bring an apocalypse that will snuff out all life on the planet. The collapse of modern civilizations can be avoided by building a SkyWay cableway infrastructure, according to the website - but they need financing.

SkyWay Capital ensures that it does not seek sponsors, but partners who would support the project with their money, which is in fact the same thing. All the supporters who will now buy shares in the company even before entering the stock exchange promise high returns - according to one of the Slovenian promoters SkyWay Capital, who has already participated in many monetary schemes in the past, even up to one thousand times: [illustration of facebook promotion of Slovenian event] The shares or options for shares of the companies investors are actually buying from is not really clear, since the data is fragmented through several SkyWay Group websites, and some are available exclusively in Russian. It seems likely to be First Skyway Invest Group Limited, based in London, UK.

First SkyWay Invest Group Limited has already been warned last year by the Belgian Financial Markets Authority FSMA, saying that their business model shows the signs of the Ponzi and pyramid schemes. The FSMA document was also distributed by the Slovenian Securities Market Agency on its website: [illustration of Slovenian notice of Belgian FSMA warning] SkyWay Capital is currently offering "shares" to investors with very high discounts, which also reached tens of thousands of percent. Buy now to generate huge returns and dividends to the end of your life, it's written on the SkyWay Capital website.

In order for SkyWay Capital investors to start earning profits with shares, two conditions should be met: the investee in which it invests should go to the stock exchange and then perform well enough to raise the price of shares.

The success of the company will depend on their product - in this case, this is SkyWay. But this is still far from commercialization, because for now, prototypes are still running along the Belarusian fields.

Interestingly, SkyWay Capital on its website points out that the quotations on the offer of shares on their website are not valid in Russia, from which SkyWay Capital otherwise derives, and even in Australia, which, as illustrated in the above figure, allegedly ordered construction of a ski lift worth 80 billion euros.

SkyWay Capital also disclaims any liability if the announcement of the stock growth and the performance of the company would not materialize and investors would have no money.

[illustration of invitation to SkyWay event] Accompanying text: Invitation to the presentation of the investment opportunity SkyWay Capital, which last year was held at the ‘Center Hotel’ in Novo mesto Hotel Center. SkyWay Capital promoters are described as one of the largest construction and transport companies in the world. Business model "bring in three friends"

Proof that shares in making money with an investment in SkyWay Capital are of secondary importance is a document that discloses the details of the partner program in SkyWay Capital.

The core of the partner program is in fact a well-known business model "join and bring in three more friends". Anyone who buys stock packages or stock options and then persuades another person to get into a hierarchy of investors in SkyWay Capital below it receives a cash prize. [illustration of MLM/pyramid structure] Accompanying text: Investment schemes such as SkyWay Capital have recently begun to use a cunning method of concealing the pyramid hierarchy of investors. We can see it in this picture - the circular symbols showing the partners of the company are much larger than the circles of people who fall under the hierarchy. If the circles of these people were as big as the symbols of their sponsors, and if everybody brought three or more people, which is of course the goal of any such kind of money network, this scheme would be much more similar to the pyramid.

Since SkyWay Capital (yet) does not have a commercial product that would generate revenue, it is for the time being the only source of funds to pay these prizes, according to the statements in the document, most likely a cash inflow of payments from individuals on organized events and through Facebook with promises of astronomical returns recruits promoters SkyWay Capital.

Who is the key person of SkyWay Capital?

The above-described business model SkyWay Capital is no surprise if we know who is involved in the project. The key person and director of SkyWay Capital is namely Evgeny Kudryashov, described by the website of the project as a specialist in Internet marketing.

In the past, Kudryashov was already involved in a number of cash schemes through which his already deleted website, which is still still accessible with the Wayback Machine tool, promised investors 100% return on the initial investment:

[illustration of photo of Kudryashov plus the promises made to investors]

One of the business opportunities promoted by Kudryashov was also the infamous Ponzi scheme of MMM Global (a source), which originally started to spread from Russia in the 1990s and then at the beginning of this decade under the name MMM-2011. At the time when the Kudryashov were involved with MMM Global, many African people (a source) were singled out in this money network.

The management positions at SkyWay Capital are also occupied by a few individuals who have previously worked in the field of network marketing.

Hello
I have not once told you to hurry up or disagreed with any edit you proposed. In fact, I would rather let you discuss it with others instead of jumping in and removing or rewording much of the content on the page (which it needs to be). My comment was simply trying to keep you from going down the wrong path towards WP:OR which is where you were heading. I realize you may not be familiar with WP:CIVIL which is why this response is not acceptable. I have been here long enough to know that civility can take a turn quickly which is why I only give one warning for such. You seem to be willing to work within community guidelines, but please do so as others have also warned you about focusing on content and not editors. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:21, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your advice. Any unnecessary dramatization on my part is only explainable in reaction to the concerted effort by Russian sock-puppets to sometimes subtly and sometimes dramatically change good work done by other Wikipedia editors. But in retrospect reactionary enthusiasm is entirely meaningless and I'm trying to use your advice to clear up any mistakes that may have resulted in incorrect or misleading wording. I certainly don't want to go down the wrong path! -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 13:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

ONLINER.BY SkyWay Article (5 September 2016) translation
The following translation from the popular Belarusian newsfeed 'Onliner.by' is the first article on SkyWay that later resulted in legal action by Yunitskiy and his associates for libel. These legal proceedings were unsuccessful. Since this original article, at least three more publications on SkyWay have followed. The most recent publication has recently been translated into German. This article doesn't have a lot of information about the EcoTechnoPark (it was still quite new when this article was published; they'd only started working on it a year before). But the more recent articles make more sense if you read this one first. The following two publishers of Onliner.by appear to be transcriptions of actual interviews some of which were made for this publication.

https://tech.onliner.by/2016/09/05/sky-way Илон Маск — чушь собачья, несите деньги мне. Белорус основал «компанию на $400 млрд» и строит под Минском «сверхскоростной» Sky Way 5 September 2016 Elon Musk is nonsense – give me the money instead. A Belarusian founded “a company worth $400 billion” and is building a “superfast” SkyWay near Minsk After the release of the article Onliner.by on the pyramid Kairos Technologies, our readers asked to look at another project, also similar to the high-tech scheme of withdrawing money from gullible people. Frankly, at first glance, SkWay makes the opposite impression and looks like a company of people keen on high ideas, who not only dream of ships plowing the vast expanses of space, but are also trying with all their might to bring the new era closer. The forces, however, are not used their own ... But first things first. We talked to Anatoly Yunitskiy, an engineer and simply the main person in SkyWay, looked at the company's activities (in fact, the companies that have the SkyWay phrase in their name, a great many are registered, but for convenience we will call them all one organization). We tried to figure out whether we are dealing with a genius inventor, or with a no less ingenious adventurer. “An iPhone somehow works, but how exactly – you don’t need to know” It was possible to read about the technology of string transport, which is known under the name SkyWay, in Soviet newspapers and magazines of the 1980s. In general terms, we are talking about the railway, the rails of which, firstly, do without sleepers and, secondly, are elevated above the ground on concrete supports. A string rail is a bundle of prestressed tensioned steel wires placed in a concrete-filled body. The idea has been worked out by Anatoly Yunitsky, a native of the Gomel region, for more than 30 years, and its author has answers to almost any questions. The main postulates of the Belarusian engineer are as follows: string transport is safer, more environmentally friendly, faster (emphasis is placed on speeds up to 500 km/h) and is ten times cheaper than everything that exists “We are not interested in which transistors are in the iPhone. This concerns the developer, not the user. Developer, as well as competitors " “What makes this cheaper?” Through innovative solutions. Here, the iPhone, at the expense of something, works, somehow you drag your finger there, but how it works - you don’t need to know this, you need to know the user characteristics. We are not interested in which transistors are in the iPhone. This concerns the developer, not the user. Developer, as well as competitors. In general, this is not a secret that can be told,” explained Anatoly Yunitsky in an interview with Onliner.by. A good, interesting, perhaps even a viable idea of a dreamer, read out by books of Cyrus Bulychev. Another thing is that during all this time, people, alas, have not shown a single acting sample of string transport (and we are promised passenger unibuses, cargo trucks, unicars, and unibikes).

Last year, the company rented a 35-hectare land plot near the Marina Horka, a former tank test site on which the whole EcoTechnoPark is being built to demonstrate “ready-made commercial solutions”. We were primarily interested in what an ambitious engineer built near Minsk. Especially since the string transport in action should be shown for the first time in 30 years already this fall.

We arrive at the location. We saw the impression of Potemkin villages. These 18 pillars for a kilometer were buried for almost a year? But Anatoly Yunitsky said that the most effort and resources are taken away not by construction, but by design. He provocatively crunches apples, gently strokes a carrot grown in a container (this is not just a park, but an ECOtechnopark!) And complains about the constant underfinancing. It is the scheme of collecting funds for the construction of the park in particular, and string transport in general, causes the most controversy and suspicion. Money is collected from ordinary people, in return, they receive "shares" from Euroasian Rail SkyWay Systems Ltd, registered in the British Virgin Islands (about 40% of offshore companies in the world are based here). “We are not starting from scratch. Although the real result is not yet " Pay a dollar for a “share”, and you are promised a profit of over 1000%. Someday - when the whole world will see the light and understand the importance of string transport, and SkyWay will come out for an IPO. By the way, Anatoly Yunitsky estimated his company as much as 400 billion dollars - approximately at the level of Apple! “I went to an appraisal company and asked to evaluate my intellectual property. Here are my more than 100 patents, 200 scientific papers, two dozen monographs, 40 know-how. They counted (given that we can take a quarter of the market) and said that our intellectual property is estimated at 400 billion dollars. This is the assessment of the business that I do. Of course, this money can be capitalized, but you can not capitalize. That is, yes, it is in some way virtual money. But there are experiments, patents, monographs, etc. Therefore, we are not starting from scratch. Although there is no real result yet,” the engineer does not hide.

Anatoly Yunitsky runs between the long rows of newly planted apple trees. There are many trees here - a few dozen, if not hundreds. They say that they were allowed to plant those who donated at least a thousand dollars to a non-existent string transport. The head of SkyWay promises to erect a monument to the one who "invests" a million. “Are there such people already?” - we are interested. “No, but they will be soon,” the answer follows.

“Elon Musk is a crazy boy from South Africa and a businessman, but I am not”

Even in an article about Kairos Technologies, psychologist Andrei Metelsky gave practical advice: before you give someone money, find out about this person as much as possible. The story of Anatoly Yunitsky is tangled and complicated. If you believe the inventor, he is constantly deceived, persecuted, robbed and left with nothing. And so for decades according to one scheme: the Belarusian “almost completes” a sample of the string road, then officials or competitors come, select everything, chase Yunitskiy, he again searches for a new country to implement his ideas, starts building there ... and so on in a circle. All this was repeated in Russia, Australia, Lithuania. Now - the turn of Belarus.

- In Russia, my partner was the governor of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, Alexander Lebed. He introduced a personal 300 thousand dollars to the project ... Then in Russia the first testing ground was demolished. I went to Australia, but everything was taken away from me and there in 2011. Then I decided to move to a free Europe - to Lithuania. Everything was fine until we bought land in Šiauliai. In the press, they began to call me an international fraudster, the builder of New Vasyukov, a follower of Mavrodi, they said that I had come to strike at NATO and therefore took a piece of land near their airfield. There were articles that it was time to arrest me, that the FSB was behind me. Arrested accounts, property. The procedure for weaning children has begun ... - complains Anatoly Yunitsky.

Lithuania has a different vision of the situation. Last year, the Central Bank of this country stressed that the “inventor” was selling worthless shares, and the Prosecutor General’s Office declared him “suspected of an investigation into fraud, illegal economic, commercial, financial activities and the legalization of funds acquired by criminal means, which is conducted by the Financial Investigation Service of crimes."

I had to flee to Belarus. But relatively recently, when Anatoly Yunitsky had just arrived in Lithuania, his priorities were completely different: “Russia and Belarus are not attractive because of the investment environment, and Lithuania protects the interests of investors. But if we decided to settle in Germany, we would have a strong competitor there, the company Siemens, in France and Japan, has its own fast trains. Why do they need us? I am Belarusian myself, so Lithuania seems to me like an ideal place. ” - No, and not necessary. Because support will begin - and problems will begin. Naturally, they know about us. First and foremost organs. Of course, after all about 80 thousand people from 78 countries invest in us. Mostly 100-300 dollars. [Illustration of a map with hundreds of markings attached to numbers] accompanying text: “It is curious that Sky Way cannot officially collect money from Belarusians. Nevertheless, on the map posted on the company's website, Belarus is drowning in numerous multi-colored numbers of investors. Among them there are even famous citizens like Kirill Shimko, on records of which Sky Way likes to promote.”

“My money was never the goal. Elon Musk is a businessman, and I am not! He just has good PR”

But his foreign colleagues, Anatoly Yunitskiy, a member of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences (along with Grigory Grabov, Yuri Kuklachev, Ramzan Kadyrov and other renowned academicians), do not really like it. Elon Musk was especially unlucky.

- He, along with his SpaceX - this is bullshit! And Tesla is also bullshit! They do not solve any problems, because in order for the same electric car to go, it is necessary to burn three times more fuel than the internal combustion engine does. Hyperloop – all of it is crap! Money is stolen, laundered, cronyism flourishes there! There is no project! The idea of putting something in a vacuum tube cannot be called a project. This idea is a hundred years old at lunch. And it was proposed by a Russian scientist, and I have it in my 1985 monograph. We also steal! Any mention of Elon Musk makes an academic very angry. Anatoly Yunitsky insists that his American colleague has only fantasies, whereas he has a ready-made solution to all major world problems. - This boy from South Africa just wants to make money, but for me money was never the goal. He is a businessman, and I am not! He just has good PR. If you can attract billions, talking about good goals, then why not voice them? They made Musk a billionaire and promoted the whole development project (SpaceX) - that's all! We do not need space for a hundred years. He is needed for industry, and man is a terrestrial product, and to kill the Earth in order to fly to Mars is complete nonsense! Only crazy people can say that! And everyone shouts: hurray, Musk is a genius! Let's live on Mars! And I say - do not fly anywhere, you must live on the Earth according to the laws of God. “The whole world is busy planning to destroy me” Responding to the skepticism of critics of the project, Anatoly Yunitsky likes to draw historical parallels.

- Call at least one invention, taken with a bang. What did Giordano Bruno burn for? And why was the Queen planted? And what's wrong with the inventor of the diesel engine Rudolf Diesel, who was drowned by competitors [there is no evidence that a competitor had a hand in the death of a German engineer. - ed. Onliner.by]? .. The President of Lithuania has publicly stated that I am a Russian spy [we searched for the corresponding quote in the Lithuanian media together with a native speaker and did not find one. - ed. Onliner.by]. The security services, the prosecutor's office, followed me, blocked a million dollars in bills, took everything away ... The whole world is busy planning to destroy me. Bill Gates hires an aircraft carrier, puts there a couple of hundred programmers and swims into the ocean for six months"

Anatoly Yunitsky diligently creates a veil of mysterious secrecy over Sky Way. In addition to the test site, we also visited the workshop where prototypes of unibuses, unibikes, and other vehicles that must be moved along the strings are constructed. [photos of parts being constructed for SkyWay vehicles] accompanying text: “We see around the wooden and plastic parts. The biggest thing from plywood can’t be photographed - competitors are not asleep!”

- We have breakthrough technology. Naturally, everyone is interested in how this can be learned, stolen, taken away. Do you think if they come, they will wear it on their hands? No, if they come, they will steal and take away. Take Microsoft and Bill Gates. He does not scream at every corner, saying that we are developing a new program. He hires an aircraft carrier, sits there a couple of hundred programmers and swims into the ocean for six months. Where - no one knows. It takes away laptops, phones, flash drives and returns with the finished product. And that's right, this is business,” explains the inventor. To clearly illustrate the advantages of strings, the engineer puts two clips on the table, and a third - on top of them. All this should symbolize the traditional trestles. Anatoly knocks on the table. This is probably an earthquake. The design of the three clips did not move a millimeter. Although it probably should have scattered in different directions. Finally, the inventor blows the clips to the floor:

- Here, just got a strong table. And string transport is like a guitar or a balalaika. Shake it, blow it, drop it on the floor, and the strings will not break anyway. - Why? Sometimes the strings still break. From excess tension at least.

- The example is correct, but not objective. Increase your guitar a thousand times and your hand at the same rate. It will be 500 meters! Dubai skyscraper! Hit the Dubai skyscraper on an existing overpass. What happens?

Anatoly Yunitsky is convinced that his project is unique from all sides. And even the aerodynamics of unibuses is better than that of the Bugatti for hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's just the money to translate the idea is not enough, even if your company is worth 400 billion. Need more money

- We collected 10 million dollars for our program, but for such serious projects it is a penny. We thought that we need at least 300 million. However, we are constantly optimizing costs, and I think that now 200 million will suffice. It is a pyramidal way to collect money that causes the most questions, because people actually sell the air and at the same time call to replenish the piggy bank by attracting other "investors". Only the referral system, well-known for the same Kairos, allows participants to rely on at least some money. He brought five (ten, fifteen, and so on) people - get your percentage from their contributions and some next title of “manager”. For some reason, Anatoly Yunitsky does not want to extract the necessary funds, referring to officials thinking only of themselves and wanting to take away all competitors. At the same time, he is not averse to remembering that it was with the support of Russian civil servants that he built a kind of prototype of a string road with a ZIL on iron wheels in the Lakes. [series of pictures from the Ozyory test site] accompanying text: “this and following photos from Yunitskiy.com website”

Maybe it was worth taking advantage of the famous crowdfunding platforms?

- We have created a platform that is stronger than all the crowdinvesting platforms combined ... We create the largest market in the entire history of civilization, because transport has accompanied us all our lives, from the hospital to the cemetery. Telephones, “iPhones”, computers for newborns, as well as for the dead, are not needed, and transportation is always necessary. By the way, we still found SkyWay on one of the third-party crowd-investing sites (although the mention of the Russian Simex can often be seen in articles about fraudsters and pyramids). Nevertheless, the project here cannot boast of great success - in three months only about two and a half thousand dollars were collected from trusting Internet users. [series of pictures from the construction of EcoTechnoPark] Anatoly Yunitsky always complains about underfunding. This is his main argument in any disputes and issues. It has long been promised to mount string rails, but they are still not there? So, a little finance! Whole year built 18 concrete supports? Need more money! The second most important and frequent reference factor is natural phenomena. The rain has gone - the pit has flooded. Winter has come - everyone froze. How to solve all this? That's right, you need to actively finance. Those who disagree, the Belarusian inventor calls trolls and calls "to go to Hyperloop." [a series of photos of workers at the EcoTechnoPark site] We must pay tribute to SkyWay - the “picture” of the company against the background of competitors a la Kairos is good. There is an office where dozens of young people work (judging by the announcements, experience is not needed, salary for a software engineer or developer is $800-1,000), a workshop in which several elderly people glue plywood models of trailers, as well as a polygon with concrete pillars. Is there a lot of money spent on all of the 10 million that Anatoly Yunitsky is talking about? It’s anyone’s guess. [a series of photos showing Yunitskiy and the office workers] In the meantime, the Belarusian engineer assures that he will create the world's largest company, which can be compared with Apple and Google. Like, here are examples when, thanks to investments, small firms turned into transnational corporations. It is a pity that at the same time he is silent about the fact that in the case of the two companies mentioned, there is no talk of any “people financing”.

Economist Vladimir Kovalkin: “It doesn’t look like an insignificant way of extracting money” [photo of an Kovalkin taking a break] “Both Google, Microsoft, and Apple had working samples. In Apple, a computer was assembled on their knees in the garage, which could be touched, turned on, and finally, with the help of attracting investors, sent to mass production at the factory. So in the case of string transport - you need a working sample that meets all the declared parameters like speed of 500 km/h, safety, cheapness, etc. Let Yunitsky build at least an amusement road that would connect Minsk and Borisov. That's when such a road will work, then it will become clear how much it all costs, whether it makes sense and whether it is possible to invest money in it. This is the business risk: you invest your own money in the realization of your idea, show how everything works, and prove the possibility of launching mass production.

I don't know, maybe this is really a technological breakthrough. But at the stage of promises of how our ships will travel across the Universe, all this, of course, looks like a pyramid, another fraudulent scheme and not insignificant way to extract money. [photo of computer-generated city of the future] accompanying text: “Illustration from rsw-online” Those who invest in this project should remember that it’s difficult to protect your interests in the offshore zone. I think this is a calculation that most people will invest no more than a thousand dollars. And this is not the amount for which, in the event of what, a person will still spend money on tickets to the Virgin Islands and back, hiring a lawyer, court proceedings, etc.

Regarding the share capital and intellectual property of 400 billion dollars. Amounts can be called anything. Now, if Yunitsky had entered the market for an IPO, then they would have seen how much the company actually costs. For now, all these are empty words. ”

Belarusian scientists of the Academy of Sciences: “The so-called string transport is a circus attration”

We have sent all available technical data on string transport to the National Academy of Sciences. In general, the conclusions of academicians coincide with the opinion of their Russian colleagues: there is no practical sense in the ideas of Unitsky. [photo of Belarusian science academy] “Everything that we see here is only static calculations. And where are the calculations of the moving load? This is a very old problem that for decades has been solved by outstanding scientists - mechanics, mathematicians, physicists. It is necessary to clearly establish the length of the sag of the rail or, as Yunitsky calls it, the strings, as well as other numerous parameters. Without solving the problem of the dynamic effects of a moving load in a system, dangerous fluctuations may occur that will lead to catastrophic consequences. What is the voltage of this string? What kind of effort? If you pull the cable, the deflection literally in millimeters causes such loads that no “string” can withstand. To increase strength, it is necessary to increase the diameter. However, if we increase the diameter, the cable itself will be of such a weight ... Mama, don't grieve! And how much metal is required! And what a load on the support!

Before you do something, you need to carefully calculate everything, Everything else is just talk. No such construction is carried out without the most complex engineering, mathematical and mechanical training. Without all this, Yunitskiy’s activities are worthless — these are the Skillful Hands circle and children's toys. [another computer-generated image] In addition - security. Imagine that on these pillars the transport will indeed go at a speed of not even 500, but 180 km/h! The area under the supports is still not suitable for any economic or relaxation activities.

The so-called string transport is a circus, an attraction. But even the rides, before being put into operation, must be certified and carefully studied. If Yunitskiy succeeds in conducting real experiments with the conditions and parameters indicated by him, to be certified, then somewhere in the recreation areas his project, it is possible, can be used instead of the cableway. But, again, there are big questions about cost-effectiveness. ” I want to believe in beautiful fairy tales. It's a shame when dreams are broken about reality and contradictions. And SkyWay, like the statements of the head of the company, is completely woven of contradictions. Anatoly Yunitsky takes offense at Elon Musk for putting his ideas on beautiful promises, and then he himself goes into lengthy arguments about children running barefoot on the grass under stringed roads. Here on the SkyWay website they write about pre-orders for $ 160 billion, and then it turns out that some companies just “showed great interest and are waiting for the certification of the project.” They deny the pyramidal essence in words, but at the same time enjoy the services of a prominent representative of MMM. They talk a lot about absolute safety and immediately brag about an open electric bike that seems to be able to accelerate to 60 km/h. They blame the "dirty" electric motor and the engine, but it seems that one of these types of motors is going to be used in string transport. Anatoly Yunitskiy launched a wide range of activities, but there is still no result like 30 years ago. Unfortunately we doubt that he will be in the future. Cheap string transport seems to be very expensive, but we can only talk about its speed characteristics while looking at the ZIL crawling along the rails at a turtle speed. And for some reason there is a persistent feeling that the Belarusian inventor will continue to work according to the “build — take away — run away — build again” scheme as long as it brings some money. Well, but you can always look like an oppressed "innovator" who "ignorant people" do not allow to complete the project. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 21:05, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

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Dear Zaxander, Thank you very much for your extensive work on the article about SkyWay Group. I try to warn the public and investors about this fraud from 2016. I have been writing to Skyway's Czech affiliates, Czech police, Czech state radio news station's editor (that aired a commentary about Skyway), German Innotrans fair managers and TUV Thuringen audit company (which provided them with certificates) - apparently to no avail. I also posted facts about Skyway on public forums and discussed with "investors" on Facebook and e-mail. If you need my assistence in this matter, feel free to contact me. I would like to translate the results of your work to Czech language, but I am not much of a wikipedist yet, so I will try to research the proper way. Kind regards F3kouT (talk) 11:58, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your positive comments. It means a lot to me. I tried to translate the English article into Czech. Maybe you can view it by clicking the following link (but I may be the only one able to access it). Note that I am only able to use the translate tool with the browser "Mozilla Firefox" (it doesn't work in Internet Explorer). The machine translation is absolutely awful and because I can't improve it while it's translating, it won't let me publish it. I think you have to have more than 500 edits on Wikipedia before you can use the translate tool. Let me know what you think. In any case, the current Czech language article needs a lot of work and I tried to improve it by pointing out where there were problems and adding some references myself to the information that was correct (there are a lot inaccuracies at present). I would be happy to help you anyway I can. If I can help with anything, let me know. –Zachar (talk) 14:26, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

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