Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Al Gore/archive3

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 01:39, 21 January 2008.

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Al Gore

previous FAC

He will get an award - 2007 Gothenburg Prize (environment), Putin is the year man in TIME Magazin. Al Gore got the 2. vote. THis Al Gore article developed from the last candiadate - during the Bali conference, Bali roadmap, after he got his Nobel Peace Prize (December.2007) , after he worked a lot on his current TV Tv ., Revision history of Al Gore --Tamás Kádár (talk) 14:30, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

• Comments on Lead Please sort out the "recent"s in the Lead, which are a bit of a mess. Also, the Live Earth article seems to differ from the Lead - it implies someone else organised the event, with Gore a partner, albeit a major one. --Dweller (talk) 12:22, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• Comment: Al Gore is a bit of "current event" and the article is likely to remain in a state of flux until global warming has stopped. JFW | T@lk 12:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
  • To clarify: the comment was serious, the phrasing was not. JFW | T@lk 13:15, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Tamás Kádár, I don't know if your first language is English or not, but it's hard to read your comment. On topic, however, Al Gore is going to win the featured article sooner or later because of its obvious statement on Global Warming and how it is written quite flawlessly, with the use of quality and correctly licensed images. --haha169 (talk) 04:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
• On another negative note of the article, however, this article unfortunately lacks proper references in some locations such as "He left Vanderbilt without a degree to run for an open seat in Tennessee's 3rd Congressional District in 1976." If someone can find and correctly note each one, it would be incredibly helpful. --haha169 (talk) 04:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

This section is now referenced. If you see other similar sentences, could you post them here? -Classicfilms (talk) 15:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose I do not think the article meets FA. The Vice Presidency section needs expanding considerably, especially an analysis of his relationship with Bill Clinton i.e. his weekly lunches to discuss policy (a first in VP/P relations) and his responses to major situations especially the lewinsky scandal and impeachment. My main concern however is with references - one of the most controversial events of his life - the 2000 election contains barely a few references, especially in regard to the debate over the Florida vote count. For instance the following paragraph (the most contentious IMO in the article) is unreferenced:

"After two terms as Vice President, Gore ran for President again in the 2000 United States Presidential election, selecting Senator Joe Lieberman to be his vice-presidential running mate. The election was the closest and most controversial presidential election in the history of the United States. By a 7-2 vote in Bush v. Gore, the Supreme Court rejected Gore's request for a recount as unconstitutional due to violations of the Equal Protection Clause, and further ruled 5-4 that no constitutionally valid recount could be completed by the December 12 deadline. This case ordered an end to recounting underway in selected Florida counties, effectively giving George W. Bush a 534 vote victory in Florida and consequently Florida's 27 electoral votes and the Presidency. Florida Secretary of State, Republican Katherine Harris, certified the Florida vote count shortly after Bush v. Gore was announced, formalizing the victory. (Harris subsequently won a seat in Florida's congressional delegation in 2002). Gore won the popular vote by approximately 500,000 votes nationwide. This election remains extremely controversial and some have questioned the legality and propriety of the role of Florida politicians on both sides, including Florida Governor Jeb Bush. No malfeasance has ever been proven on anyone's part however."

Not one reference there! I think this is a good article but it still has a long way to get to FA especially in regards to coverage of his life and references. Keep up the good work though. LordHarris 20:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Would someone help me cite some articles? My citing prowess apparently doesn't work on this article, since it apparently messes up the notes section. However, it works on minor articles. --haha169 (talk) 03:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I actually made a minor mistake that messed up the notes section. Sorry. In the meantime, I have a couple more locations that may need more citing:

• After basic training at Fort Dix, Gore was assigned as a military journalist writing for The Army Flier, the base newspaper at Fort Rucker.
• While Senator, Gore twice attempted to get the U.S. government to pull the plug on support to Saddam Hussein, citing Hussein's use of poison gas, support of terrorism, and his burgeoning nuclear program, but was opposed both times by the Reagan and Bush administrations.
• In the wake of the Al-Anfal Campaign, during which Hussein staged deadly mustard and nerve gas attacks on Kurdish Iraqis, Gore cosponsored the Prevention of Genocide Act of 1988, which would have cut all assistance to Iraq.

--haha169 (talk) 04:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose It seems that important things are missing from the WP:LEAD: He is the son of a Congressman/Senator, a reluctant Vietnam Veteran, a journalist, etc. The lead could be rewritten with four paragraphs all as solid as the first two. Don't exceed four paragraphs as per Wikipedia:LEAD#Length, but please beef up the lead.
• Sourcing could be better. E.g., "While in Congress, Gore was a member of the following committees:" should be followed immediately by a footnote with the source. The April 3, 1989, paragraph should have a source or two. In general, with an important, easily sourceable person like this each paragraph should have at least one ref.
• Did he really have no notable Honors and awards before 2005?
• Why didn't Gore run in the 1992 primaries?
• Are House of Rep details available for Al_Gore#Electoral_history?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 00:46, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

• Strong oppose. These are the first categories at the bottom of the article. All articles with unsourced statements | Articles with unsourced statements since October 2007 | All articles with dead external links | Articles with dead external links since January 2008 --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose - per Hurricanehink - I believe the nominator did not ensure the article met FA criteria.--Kiyarrllston 06:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
• I replaced the dead link with a working one.--haha169 (talk) 06:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.