Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Coffee/Archive1

Coffee
Not a self-nom; I haven't been involved in the editing or writing of this article in any way. I simply encountered it today while looking for some information on coffee. I found it to be detailed, informative, well-illustrated, and professional. It is, to me, exemplary of the encyclopedic quality to which all of Wikipedia should aspire. So, therefore, I'm nominating it. Nandesuka 14:55, 24 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Object. I have looked at this article before (in fact, I recently copyedited its lead) and thought it needed a lot of work to get to FA. Based on a brief new look:
 * The section structure is disorganized, with a number of small sections and a poor overall organizational scheme.
 * The footnotes are in disarray, with a number of broken or misnumbered links. Inline references need to be converted to footnotes as well.
 * The lead is too short for an article of this size.
 * It needs a lot of copyediting; it would be nice if that were done before submitting articles as FACs.
 * Too many raw lists in the brewing and presentation sections.
 * Someone needs to fact-check this baby. I spent about an hour, before, trying to find a primary source for "In monetary terms, coffee is the second most-traded commodity in the world, trailing only petroleum." All I ever turned up was the repetition of this fact in one news article after another; nobody pointed to the data supporting this, or any hard numbers.
 * &mdash;Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Comment re: second most-traded commodity -- I find data to suggest it is not true. See for example UNCTAD Handbook of Statistics (caution: large PDF), specifically section 4.2A, beginning on page 156 (print page number)/182 (PDF page number).  The interpretation depends a bit on what one considers a commodity, but it's hard to make coffee number two under any definition. --Tabor 21:09, 29 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Object – 1) At 53kb, the article needs to be written in summary style. 2) ToC is bulky and should have less sections. 3) History is incomplete. Nothing on the International Coffee Agreement of 1962, and so on 4) Lead size should be doubled. 5) ==The cafe== is unrelated 5) the commons & quote links should be under =external links= 6) In 1997 the "c" price of coffee in New York broke US$3.00/lb but by late 2001 it had fallen to US$0.43/lb. Why NY prices? 7) Too much of a list. Please convert to prose. 8) TransFair USA is it an for them? 9) ' In the United States, major national coffee suppliers tailor their product to tastes in particular regions of the country; for instance, a can of ground coffee purchased in the Northeast or Northwest will contain a darker roast than an identically appearing can purchased in the central United States not needed. ;  impossible to find whole beans in American stores, ' another instance of US specific practices. Please remove. 10) Inline links are all mixed up. 11) External links should not have subsections 13) NOTE: Health benefits of decaffeinated coffee have not been found. What's this? 13) Maps of the coffee producing & consumption nations should be useful. Chart of the coffee producers also useful. Paused reviewing; Will continue after the above obj are fixed.  =Nichalp   «Talk»=  19:14, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Object:
 * The image Image:Coffee cup.JPG has no source information.
 * The images Image:Cofffeebeans aging a.jpg, Image:Coffeebeans aging b.jpg, Image:Coffeeroasting woodfired.jpg have no source or copyright information.
 * The image Image:A small cup of coffee.JPG is under the Creative Commons Sharealike-Attribution license, but does not indicate the creator.
 * The image Image:Frappe.jpg has no source or copyright information.
 * --Carnildo 20:33, 24 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Object for many of the reasons cited above. I've made a number of contributions to the article, but it plainly needs a lot of work. TCC (talk) (contribs) 21:21, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Has potential, but needs work. Tony 07:12, 25 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Question is there any information on eating the actual roasted coffee beans? Someone has said that you can purchase chocolate coffee beans for consumption.
 * The place for this question is probably the talk page for the article. This is for discussion FA status, not article content as such. TCC (talk) (contribs) 21:27, 29 October 2005 (UTC)