Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Elton John/archive1

Elton John

I am nominating this article because I think it is representive of Wikipedia's finest work. It has good images, as well as a detailed (but not unnecesarily long) overview of the subject.

• Object. It's not a bad article, but there are several important obstacles to it becoming a featured article. Some of the images, such as Image:Oct272.jpg and Image:Wik-elton.jpg, have no copyright information, others, such as Image:Ejohn4.jpg and Image:Ejohn2.jpg, are claimed to be fairuse without enough justification. The article also lacks a references section, which is required for a featured article. There are also several smaller stylistic issues. - SimonP 02:37, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
• Object. The article still needs work (I'm one of the recent contributors to it). In particular, coverage of Elton's work in the 1980s is very threadbare. Also, I think having 'Film work' and 'Musicals' as separate sections from the main timeline is probably a mistake; it would be better to fold them in, so you can see where The Lion King happened in relation to his other work. Ditto for "That's What Friends Are For" from the 'Personal life' section. Wasted Time R 03:10, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
• Object
  1. The image Image:Wik-elton.jpg has no source or copyright information.
  2. The image Image:Oct272.jpg has no source or copyright information, and doesn't seem to be linked to anything in the article, so it should be removed.
  3. The image Image:Ejohn3.jpg has no source information. It's impossible to claim "fair use" without providing the source and copyright holder.
  4. The image Image:Ejohn2.jpg is claimed as "fair use", but does not specify the source, and has no fair use rationale.
  5. The image Image:Ejohn4.jpg is claimed as "fair use", but is not particularly important for the article. Any fair use claim is dubious.
  6. The image Image:Elton Tommy.jpg is claimed as "fair use", but has no source information or fair-use rationale.
  7. The image Image:Furnish.jpg has no source or copyright information.

  --Carnildo 07:31, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

• Object - no references, and the issue with the images needs to be addressed. There is no critical comment about him or his music and for someone of his stature, I think that's needed. I also think there are some very minor POV issues. Why, for example single out a relatively inconsequential (my opinion) hit such as "I'm Still Standing" and include it in the lead paragraph where it assumes a distinction that it may or may not be worthy of. I think it's a great song, but it was not a major turning point in his career. I don't think it's practical to discuss each and every album, and I'm glad you haven't, but it's essential to discuss each and every phase of his career comprehensively. The writing style changes dramatically at "1980s and onwards" - the earlier sections are free flowing prose, for the most part well written. In "1980s" there are numerous short unrelated sentences that completely break the flow of the article and create a choppy, incomplete effect, which suggests that section was rushed through in order to finish the article. These are all things that can be fixed though. Rossrs 11:23, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
• Object. Until the images are credited (I added the unverified template to Image:Oct272.jpg as per those above), I cannot support the article. Also, the musicals section is almost empty, there are no references, the quotations should be moved to wikiquote with a link, the discography section is empty, and the article needs to be cleaned up. Other than that, it's well done, and has very few redlinks (until the end—perhaps these should be filled in, or removed?). -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] ^{[[additions | e-mail]]} 21:52, 3 September 2005 (UTC)