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The article was archived by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 13:19, 17 October 2018.

Swift Justice

 * Nominator(s): Aoba47 (talk) 06:54, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello everyone! The above article is about an American detective drama, created by Dick Wolf, which aired for one season on United Paramount Network (UPN) from March 13, 1996, to July 17, 1996. It is about a former United States Navy SEAL (James McCaffrey), who becomes a private investigator after being fired from the New York City Police Department. Critical reception to the series was mixed; some television critics praised its visuals and cast, while others panned its storylines as too violent and formulaic.

This is my ninth FAC on a television show article, following the successful promotion of eight other ones. I believe that the article fulfills the FA criteria, though I will greatly appreciate any comments or suggestions. For those interested, this is what the article looked like prior to my expansion. This is yet another one of my projects on an obscure series from UPN. One day, I should work on an article about a television show people actually remember, or at least one that lasted more than one season lol. Thank you in advance, and have a wonderful day and/or night! Aoba47 (talk) 06:54, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Clikity
I'm happy you're back. Might as well take a look.
 * Thank you! Aoba47 (talk) 18:54, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Comments on prose
 * "Swift Justice is an American detective drama, created by Dick Wolf, which aired for one season..." How about "Swift Justice is an American detective drama created by Dick Wolf, which aired for one season on United Paramount Network (UPN) from 13 March 1996 to 17 July 1996. No comma is needed between the dates.
 * Removed the comma. Aoba47 (talk) 18:54, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * NOOOOO! I just realized you were supposed to. Sorry on my part. Clikity (talk) 19:06, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * "It is about a former United States Navy Seal(James McCaffrey)..." Why put his name in parentheses? It might confuse someone who doesn't know who James McCaffrey is. Is it the name of the Navy Seal? The actor? I'd prefer "The show is about a former United States Navy Seal played by James McCaffrey..."
 * Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 18:54, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * "The supporting cast includes..." How about just "The cast includes..."
 * True. Aoba47 (talk) 18:54, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * "Dick Wolf created Swift Justice and the executive producer." Dick Wolf created the executive producer? "Dick Wolf created Swift Justice and was the executive producer."
 * Apologies for that ><. Aoba47 (talk) 18:54, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Notice- I will be cleaning small obvious mistakes throughout the article. Feel free to revert my changes if necessary.
 * Thank you! Aoba47 (talk) 19:36, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Okay, my c/e is done. Clikity (talk) 20:26, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Aoba47 (talk) 20:49, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Other
 * Okay, I think the 2nd paragraph of the section "Premise and characters" is too long. It talks about the pilot, but there are many different aspects, such as how people received it. It also talks about other episodes. I made an edit to fix the organization. For the new short paragraph, please add more detail on how they received the pilot. Feel free to revert
 * Thank you for the edits. I did some rearranging. I made a fourth paragraph in the "Premise and characters" section to focus on the critical commentary on the show's premise (i.e. the comparisons to other programs, the examples of some of the storylines, etc.), and I moved the sentences about its use of violence there as I think that it fits. I formatted the section in this way: the first paragraph introduces the characters, the second paragraph is about the pilot, the third paragraph is about the rest of the series (i.e. where be becomes a private investigator), and I already explained the fourth paragraph above. I hope that makes sense. Also, I have already found and add all of the sources that I could find on the show to the article prior to nomination. Aoba47 (talk) 20:09, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Any further comments? Aoba47 (talk) 20:33, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support Looks good. It passes for FA and is pretty good for an obscure show. Clikity (talk) 23:36, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Aoba47 (talk) 01:02, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I saw the previous revision of your comment. At that time I wasn't so sure about the article's comprehensiveness.

Kailash

 * Lede
 * In the infobox of TV series, we use title cards instead of posters and advertisements, don't we? I think yes, because that's how all the Arrowverse series have been doing.
 * Replaced. I used an advertisement instead to include images of the two actors/characters for the reader. Aoba47 (talk) 06:53, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I just hope you saved the advertisement and its source for potential re-upload in case I'm wrong. Kailash29792 (talk)  07:08, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It is pretty easy to find again online so it should be an easy fix. I agree though that the title card is probably the best fit to keep everything consistent. Aoba47 (talk) 07:11, 9 October 2018 (UTC)


 * "Critical reception was mixed" - unsourced critical reception summary, since the word "mixed" is mentioned only once in the whole article.
 * Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 06:53, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Is it possible to split this into two sections? One for premise and another for cast.
 * Premise and characters
 * I do not see the benefit of doing so. The section already covers the basic premise and characters of the show directly. There are only three main characters on the show, so I do not see the value in a separate "Cast" section as they are already discussed fully here. Aoba47 (talk) 06:53, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Alright. Since the entire series was only 10 episodes long with only three main cast members, I agree splitting isn't a good idea. Kailash29792 (talk)  07:08, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I understand what you meant though. This show's main cast was particularly small for some reason. Aoba47 (talk) 07:11, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Why are all the episode summaries single lines? Since they have finished airing, the plots need to be complete.
 * Episodes
 * I found all of the episodes on YouTube. I just assumed that full episodes were not available, so it looks like I have to actually watch this. Yay >< lol. Aoba47 (talk) 06:59, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

That's all from me. Once these are addressed, I'll support this. Kailash29792 (talk)  06:40, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the comments. I have addressed most of your points, and I will try to expand the summaries over the course of the week, though I must admit I am not too excited about it lol. I will let you know when I am done with the expanded plot summaries. Aoba47 (talk) 06:59, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support: I like reviewing short articles since their conciseness allows better solving of issues, thereby making them FAC/FLC worthy. Kailash29792 (talk)  07:08, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I will still make sure to expand the plot summaries for the episodes though. Hope you have a great rest of your week. Aoba47 (talk) 07:11, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

The following YouTube account (Gaelin Wade) had uploaded some of the episodes. Unfortunately, some of episodes are missing (i.e. "Stones", "Isaiah's Daughter", "Pilot Episode") so I am uncertain if I should expand the summaries if I can do it for all of them. I will leave this up for reviewers to decide. Just wanted to leave an update about this. The show is actually better than I had anticipated; it is schlocky, but pretty fun for what it is. Aoba47 (talk) 07:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Never mind. If there are reliable sources documenting what happened in the story, cite them in the article like I've done at Kalidas and Miss Malini since those are lost films. Kailash29792 (talk)  08:49, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Request for Withdrawal

 * Please withdraw the nomination as I do not have any further interest in continuing it. Thank you in advance! Aoba47 (talk) 01:20, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

-- Laser brain  (talk)  13:19, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
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